allowance /responsibility
Ren
"I think I read in one of the John Holt books Teach Your Own maybe that
schools teach as they do so children turn out to be blue collar workers or just
workers. Something like that........
Laura"
I would think factory type work would be more along the lines of what schools train people for, that, or prison!:)
A lot of bluecollar workers are very FREE with their lives, my dh included. He went from management to bluecollar work in order to reclaim his life and his time. We run our own company and it's been a fantastic learning experience, plus our family spends a lot of time together. Many of the bluecollar workers down here are able to set their own hours and have the flexibility and freedom other folks don't enjoy. 'Course I'm thinking of small business owners, not the guys that work for minimum wage for other folks, which must be rough.
Ren
schools teach as they do so children turn out to be blue collar workers or just
workers. Something like that........
Laura"
I would think factory type work would be more along the lines of what schools train people for, that, or prison!:)
A lot of bluecollar workers are very FREE with their lives, my dh included. He went from management to bluecollar work in order to reclaim his life and his time. We run our own company and it's been a fantastic learning experience, plus our family spends a lot of time together. Many of the bluecollar workers down here are able to set their own hours and have the flexibility and freedom other folks don't enjoy. 'Course I'm thinking of small business owners, not the guys that work for minimum wage for other folks, which must be rough.
Ren
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In a message dated 12/29/03 3:45:48 PM Central Standard Time,
starsuncloud@...
writes:
One of the closest, most loving families I know is my husband's uncle's
family, and he was an assembly-line worker for Ford up in Detroit for his entire
career, as is his son now. The regular hours and guaranteed income were ideal
for the stability of their lifestyle, and they had regular vacations at an
upstate cabin, had a boat, the works. All very middle-class, nothing
high-falutin', but it was good. I've never known such an idyllic family (although they
certainly had their problems, just like anyone else).
I always thought that the work must have been mind-numbing for the uncle, but
the quality of his family life was so high that I figure it must have been
worth it.
There have been times, as we have struggled to find a stable financial place
in the world, where I have envied him his humdrum, mind-numbing choice of a
blue collar factory job. :-)
Laura B.
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starsuncloud@...
writes:
> A lot of bluecollar workers are very FREE with their lives, my dh included.I agree.
> He went from management to bluecollar work in order to reclaim his life and
> his time. We run our own company and it's been a fantastic learning
> experience, plus our family spends a lot of time together. Many of the bluecollar
> workers down here are able to set their own hours and have the flexibility and
> freedom other folks don't enjoy. 'Course I'm thinking of small business
> owners, not the guys that work for minimum wage for other folks, which must be
> rough.
>
> Ren
One of the closest, most loving families I know is my husband's uncle's
family, and he was an assembly-line worker for Ford up in Detroit for his entire
career, as is his son now. The regular hours and guaranteed income were ideal
for the stability of their lifestyle, and they had regular vacations at an
upstate cabin, had a boat, the works. All very middle-class, nothing
high-falutin', but it was good. I've never known such an idyllic family (although they
certainly had their problems, just like anyone else).
I always thought that the work must have been mind-numbing for the uncle, but
the quality of his family life was so high that I figure it must have been
worth it.
There have been times, as we have struggled to find a stable financial place
in the world, where I have envied him his humdrum, mind-numbing choice of a
blue collar factory job. :-)
Laura B.
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In a message dated 12/29/03 10:31:06 PM, LauraBourdo@... writes:
<< I always thought that the work must have been mind-numbing for the uncle,
but
the quality of his family life was so high that I figure it must have been
worth it. >>
The best job I ever had for providing me the ability to think was the most
boring and routine. So I could do what I was doing and think about other things
without any possibility of screwing up. It was a job without words, so words
and ideas could flow without conflict. It was taking dishes off trays in the
college dining hall. Each of us on that line had one type of dish to remove,
rinse, and put in the trays for the dishwashing machine. If I was doing
plates, I scanned for plates, rinsed and lined them up until the rack was full,
at which point I scooted that over and started another rack. It was WONDERFUL.
There was warm running water in a stainless steel channel I would hold my
hands in during lulls, the room was so loud we couldn't carry on conversations
anyway, and it was like being alone in a meditative state.
Sandra
<< I always thought that the work must have been mind-numbing for the uncle,
but
the quality of his family life was so high that I figure it must have been
worth it. >>
The best job I ever had for providing me the ability to think was the most
boring and routine. So I could do what I was doing and think about other things
without any possibility of screwing up. It was a job without words, so words
and ideas could flow without conflict. It was taking dishes off trays in the
college dining hall. Each of us on that line had one type of dish to remove,
rinse, and put in the trays for the dishwashing machine. If I was doing
plates, I scanned for plates, rinsed and lined them up until the rack was full,
at which point I scooted that over and started another rack. It was WONDERFUL.
There was warm running water in a stainless steel channel I would hold my
hands in during lulls, the room was so loud we couldn't carry on conversations
anyway, and it was like being alone in a meditative state.
Sandra
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<<<In a message dated 12/30/2003 11:37:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:The best job I ever had for providing me the ability to think
was the most
boring and routine. So I could do what I was doing and think about other
things
without any possibility of screwing up. It was a job without words, so words
and ideas could flow without conflict. It was taking dishes off trays in the
college dining hall. Each of us on that line had one type of dish to remove,
rinse, and put in the trays for the dishwashing machine. If I was doing
plates, I scanned for plates, rinsed and lined them up until the rack was
full,
at which point I scooted that over and started another rack. It was
WONDERFUL.
There was warm running water in a stainless steel channel I would hold my
hands in during lulls, the room was so loud we couldn't carry on
conversations
anyway, and it was like being alone in a meditative state.
Sandra>>>
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My favorite job was the one I owned. It was wild. I loved the product, the
customers, the UPS and Fed Ex guys, packaging boxes, ordering, working on my
site, adding new products and thinking of new ideas all the time. When the little
ones get older I would like to come up with another idea that takes off as
that one did.
Our oldest Dustin knew how to run things as well as I. If someday he decides
to open his own business I hope he has as much fun as I did.
Laura
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SandraDodd@... writes:The best job I ever had for providing me the ability to think
was the most
boring and routine. So I could do what I was doing and think about other
things
without any possibility of screwing up. It was a job without words, so words
and ideas could flow without conflict. It was taking dishes off trays in the
college dining hall. Each of us on that line had one type of dish to remove,
rinse, and put in the trays for the dishwashing machine. If I was doing
plates, I scanned for plates, rinsed and lined them up until the rack was
full,
at which point I scooted that over and started another rack. It was
WONDERFUL.
There was warm running water in a stainless steel channel I would hold my
hands in during lulls, the room was so loud we couldn't carry on
conversations
anyway, and it was like being alone in a meditative state.
Sandra>>>
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My favorite job was the one I owned. It was wild. I loved the product, the
customers, the UPS and Fed Ex guys, packaging boxes, ordering, working on my
site, adding new products and thinking of new ideas all the time. When the little
ones get older I would like to come up with another idea that takes off as
that one did.
Our oldest Dustin knew how to run things as well as I. If someday he decides
to open his own business I hope he has as much fun as I did.
Laura
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Tia Leschke
>What kind of business was it?
>My favorite job was the one I owned. It was wild. I loved the product, the
>customers, the UPS and Fed Ex guys, packaging boxes, ordering, working on my
>site, adding new products and thinking of new ideas all the time. When the
>little
>ones get older I would like to come up with another idea that takes off as
>that one did.
Tia
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<<In a message dated 12/30/2003 6:03:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
leschke@... writes:What kind of business was it?
Tia>>
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I sold children's toys online. Products from Kettler, Radio Flyer, Big Belly
Banks, Peg Perego etc...
I opened at the perfect time for a toy biz on the net and offered free
shipping. I miss it but would never be able to keep it going with 3 little ones.
Cassidy was conceived and born during the creation of the business and I
later nursed while I spoke to customers. Later she shipped a bottle of milk to a
lady in WA. Luckily she had a child and understood.
Knowing what I know now and that I can have fun and make money it is very
hard for me to work for someone else.
Laura
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leschke@... writes:What kind of business was it?
Tia>>
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I sold children's toys online. Products from Kettler, Radio Flyer, Big Belly
Banks, Peg Perego etc...
I opened at the perfect time for a toy biz on the net and offered free
shipping. I miss it but would never be able to keep it going with 3 little ones.
Cassidy was conceived and born during the creation of the business and I
later nursed while I spoke to customers. Later she shipped a bottle of milk to a
lady in WA. Luckily she had a child and understood.
Knowing what I know now and that I can have fun and make money it is very
hard for me to work for someone else.
Laura
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