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Ok Karen and all,
So I need some help here. My little one and I are battling thrush and need
to avoid sugar, but almost everything that I eat either has sugar or turns
into sugar (i.e. love pasta) my little one does not do well with me eating
lots of wheat or dairy, cut out the sugar, starches (turning to sugar)
and....I am at a loss...Someone help!!!!

Happy Mothering,
Julie
Mommy to Ali and Matthew, Wife to a Great Man, Adam
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Julie, Dr Atkins has a yeast free diet to combat this. Until the yeast
problem is solved do not eat or drink: alcoholic drinks, b-b-q sauce, bread
or hamb. buns, buttermilk, cake, cashews, catsup, cheeses--except fresh,
chili peppers, citric acid, dry roasted nuts, fruit-esp. dried and cured,
horseradish, mayonnaise, malted products, milk, mincemeat, mushrooms, pastry,
peanuts,pickles, pistachios,pretzels, rolls, root beer, sauerkraut, smoked
foods, sour cream, soy sauce, sugars of any type, tomato sauce, vitamins in a
yeast base. I think thin pastas like angel hair and vermicelli are ok,
just avoid lg shaped noodles. Good luck!
~Karen

tracy.oldfield

The Atkins diet follows these kinds of lines, it's primarily weight-loss, but it's the same idea, that processed carbohydrates are baaaaaad <g>  Makes sense to me, since in the wilds, the 'staples' we use today wouldn't grow in the same quantities, grasses (wheat, etc) tend to grow where land has been cleared, which ain't 'natural' if one thinks back to humanity's roots, as it were.  So fresh fruit and veggies and plenty protein works best for me, like eggs or bacon or ham for breakfast instead of cereals.  Hard to change what are essentially generations of eating habits.  I guess if you cut back even a little, your young'un's tolerance level will not be broached so often, and you can balance things out.
 
Best wishes on this, it's a real toughie.
Tracy
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Ok Karen and all,
So I need some help here.  My little one and I are battling thrush and need
to avoid sugar, but almost everything that I eat either has sugar or turns
into sugar (i.e. love pasta)  my little one does not do well with me eating
lots of wheat or dairy, cut out the sugar, starches (turning to sugar)
and....I am at a loss...Someone help!!!!

Happy Mothering,
Julie

panchot

Getting rid of as much sugar in the diet as you can is good for thrush, as well as just doing it for health reasons. Foods with fat should be excluded as well (keep in mind that olive oil-cold pressed and not heated by cooking helps to inhibit the growth of yeast. Acidophilus helps to get rid of fungus in the body, and a good amount of garlic will help to fight the yeast. Sometimes garlic can cause colic in really young babies.
 
I, personally, cannot imagine choosing a flesh food over a bowl of healthy grain cereal for breakfast, but we are a vegan family so that really doesn't apply.
 
Since you love pasts, maybe some wheat pasta or rice? No reason to cut it out completely, but try some rice noodles. My kids love rice noodles. You have options, do you have a good cookbook full of some healthy (possibly vegetarian) recipes? A good cookbook will hardly ever, if not at all, call for sugar in any recipes, except for maybe some desserts.
 
Grapefruit seed extract is REALLY good for lowering your yeast if your breastfeeding.
Well, good luck!
 
Brynn
 

"To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human being can fight and never stop fighting."
--e.e. cummings

-----Original Message-----
From: tracy.oldfield [mailto:tracy.oldfield@...]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 2:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] sugar and food

The Atkins diet follows these kinds of lines, it's primarily weight-loss, but it's the same idea, that processed carbohydrates are baaaaaad <g>  Makes sense to me, since in the wilds, the 'staples' we use today wouldn't grow in the same quantities, grasses (wheat, etc) tend to grow where land has been cleared, which ain't 'natural' if one thinks back to humanity's roots, as it were.  So fresh fruit and veggies and plenty protein works best for me, like eggs or bacon or ham for breakfast instead of cereals.  Hard to change what are essentially generations of eating habits.  I guess if you cut back even a little, your young'un's tolerance level will not be broached so often, and you can balance things out.
 
Best wishes on this, it's a real toughie.
Tracy
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] sugar and food

Ok Karen and all,
So I need some help here.  My little one and I are battling thrush and need
to avoid sugar, but almost everything that I eat either has sugar or turns
into sugar (i.e. love pasta)  my little one does not do well with me eating
lots of wheat or dairy, cut out the sugar, starches (turning to sugar)
and....I am at a loss...Someone help!!!!

Happy Mothering,
Julie
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Brynn and all,
Thanks for your words of wisdom. I knew I came to the right place. I saved
all the e-mails and will start applying them immediately.

Thanks again,
Happy Mothering,
Julie
Mommy to Ali and Matthew, Wife to a Great Man, Adam
Please check out a few of my favorite sites:
http://www.mothering.com
http://www.AttachmentParenting.org
http://www.LaLecheLeague.org
http://www.naturalchild.org
"It helps me to remember that people are more important than ideas and that
being kind is more important than being right."
-Peggy O'Mara, Publisher of Mothering Magazine.

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Karen,
Thanks for the list. Can you send me one of good things to eat? Hee hee hee

Happy Mothering,
Julie
Mommy to Ali and Matthew, Wife to a Great Man, Adam
Please check out a few of my favorite sites:
http://www.mothering.com
http://www.AttachmentParenting.org
http://www.LaLecheLeague.org
http://www.naturalchild.org
"It helps me to remember that people are more important than ideas and that
being kind is more important than being right."
-Peggy O'Mara, Publisher of Mothering Magazine.

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In a message dated 5/26/00 4:38:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
tracy.oldfield@... writes:

<< So fresh fruit and veggies and plenty protein works best for me, like eggs
or bacon or ham for breakfast instead of cereals. Hard to change what are
essentially generations of eating habits. I guess if you cut back even a
little, your young'un's tolerance level will not be broached so often, and
you can balance things out. >>

I agree... except I cannot have the ham due to nitrates, and b/c of them
being sugar cured. Having plenty of protein definitely helps me function and
feel better! Cereals leave me feeling sluggish a couple of hrs later.
~Karen in Ind

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In a message dated 5/27/00 9:01:29 PM Central Daylight Time, Jaam1224@...
writes:

<< Thanks for the list. Can you send me one of good things to eat? Hee hee
hee

>>
LOL! No doubt--that's what I thought, too, when I read it! It's
like..."ok, what's left to choose from, once you x-out the sugar, the
nitrates, the msg.....etc....how about tree bark?" LOL! Thank heaven for
strawberries! 1/2c of fresh berries with some (lactose free) milk (gotta'
watch that lactose incuced gas), a tsp of vanilla, and a bit of dry milk
powder ( for extra calcium and protein), whipped up makes an excellent
shake!! There are no added refined sugars ;something that definitely tastes
good, and is good for you--unless you are allergic to strawberries or milk!
tee hee! Try one! ~Karen

Lynda

Soy milk (no lactose which is a type of sugar) with a dash of vanilla plus
the strawberries which I freeze first. The frozen fruit makes the end
product kinda like one of those Orange Julius drinks and the kidlets love
it.

Lynda

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> In a message dated 5/27/00 9:01:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
Jaam1224@...
> writes:
>
> << Thanks for the list. Can you send me one of good things to eat? Hee
hee
> hee
>
> >>
> LOL! No doubt--that's what I thought, too, when I read it! It's
> like..."ok, what's left to choose from, once you x-out the sugar, the
> nitrates, the msg.....etc....how about tree bark?" LOL! Thank heaven
for
> strawberries! 1/2c of fresh berries with some (lactose free) milk
(gotta'
> watch that lactose incuced gas), a tsp of vanilla, and a bit of dry milk
> powder ( for extra calcium and protein), whipped up makes an excellent
> shake!! There are no added refined sugars ;something that definitely
tastes
> good, and is good for you--unless you are allergic to strawberries or
milk!
> tee hee! Try one! ~Karen
>
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panchot

Let's not forget all the protein in legumes, tofu, nuts, etc. Just my
2cents....

Brynn


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to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human
being can fight and never stop fighting."
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 7:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] sugar and food


In a message dated 5/26/00 4:38:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
tracy.oldfield@... writes:

<< So fresh fruit and veggies and plenty protein works best for me, like
eggs
or bacon or ham for breakfast instead of cereals. Hard to change what are
essentially generations of eating habits. I guess if you cut back even a
little, your young'un's tolerance level will not be broached so often, and
you can balance things out. >>

I agree... except I cannot have the ham due to nitrates, and b/c of them
being sugar cured. Having plenty of protein definitely helps me function
and
feel better! Cereals leave me feeling sluggish a couple of hrs later.
~Karen in Ind

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Lynda

There are lots of hams out there that don't have sugar or nitrites/trates
in them. You can get salt cured, brine cured, dry cured and any of those
smoked. A salt cured or dry cured ham uses plain old salt (not the
nitrite/trate/saltpeter stuff). Proscuitto is one of the more well known
dry-cured hams. You can order the old-fashioned salt cured hams both
smoked and unsmoked from several outlets back east. Quite a few of the
organic food outfits are now carrying the old-fashioned type hams, also.

Lynda

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>

> I agree... except I cannot have the ham due to nitrates, and b/c of
them
> being sugar cured. Having plenty of protein definitely helps me function
and
> feel better! Cereals leave me feeling sluggish a couple of hrs later.

> ~Karen in Ind
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In a message dated 5/28/00 1:00:50 AM Central Daylight Time,
panchot@... writes:

<< Let's not forget all the protein in legumes, tofu, nuts, etc. Just my
2cents....
>>
That's very true... I really enjoy plain peanuts. ~Karen

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Lynda, what brand of soy milk do you use? What I have tried has that "bean"
taste.... or is it just something that one more or less has to get used to?
~Karen

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In a message dated 5/28/00 11:21:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
HPaulson5@... writes:

<< << Let's not forget all the protein in legumes, tofu, nuts, etc. Just my
2cents....
>>
That's very true... I really enjoy plain peanuts. ~Karen >>

Hi, just joined your list here. And am enjoying the "food" talk. Not sure
how it started but I will add my two cents: We love sprouting raw peanuts in
a jar. We eat them when they are about an inch long. Great nut protein,
refreshing greens, and science to boot. We also do alfalfa sprouts and bean
sprouts--but peanuts are *my* favorite.

-Lee in Milwaukee, WI

Tia Leschke

At 10:55 PM 5/27/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Soy milk (no lactose which is a type of sugar) with a dash of vanilla plus
>the strawberries which I freeze first. The frozen fruit makes the end
>product kinda like one of those Orange Julius drinks and the kidlets love
>it.

Can't resist adding my fave.......grind a handful of almonds in the
blender, then add water, frozen strawberries and frozen banana. Yum! And
I'll intro later.
Tia

"Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without
a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in."
------Leonardo Da Vinci

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Tia Leschke

At 12:29 PM 5/28/00 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 5/28/00 11:21:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
>HPaulson5@... writes:
>
><< << Let's not forget all the protein in legumes, tofu, nuts, etc. Just my
> 2cents....
> >>
> That's very true... I really enjoy plain peanuts. ~Karen >>
>
>Hi, just joined your list here. And am enjoying the "food" talk. Not sure
>how it started but I will add my two cents: We love sprouting raw peanuts in
>a jar. We eat them when they are about an inch long. Great nut protein,
>refreshing greens, and science to boot. We also do alfalfa sprouts and bean
>sprouts--but peanuts are *my* favorite.

Do you sprout them in the shell and then have to remove the shells, or can
they be sprouted without the shells?
Tia

"Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without
a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in."
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In a message dated 5/28/00 3:40:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
leschke@... writes:

<< We also do alfalfa sprouts and bean
>sprouts--but peanuts are *my* favorite.

Do you sprout them in the shell and then have to remove the shells, or can
they be sprouted without the shells?
Tia >>

Unshelled, raw and organic is how we do it. Empty, clean, plastic peanut
butter jar with a screw-on top with lots of air holes. Rinse and drain
morning and night. Will sprout in a matter of days.

Tia Leschke

> Do you sprout them in the shell and then have to remove the shells, or can
> they be sprouted without the shells?
> Tia >>
>
>Unshelled, raw and organic is how we do it. Empty, clean, plastic peanut
>butter jar with a screw-on top with lots of air holes. Rinse and drain
>morning and night. Will sprout in a matter of days.

Thanks, I'm going to try it. Have you done sunflower seeds, and would they
be done the same way?
Tia

"Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without
a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in."
------Leonardo Da Vinci

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Lynda

We use the plain soy milk (refrigerated kind, not the stuff sitting on
shelves) for cooking and making "milkshakes." For plain drinking, I just
add a "pinch" of vanilla and it seems to mask the soy flavor. We do use
honey a lot (kidlets love it in the "milk") and don't seem to have the same
problems with natural locally "grown" organic honey that we have with
refined sugars. In fact, it was recommended to help the kidlets with
allergies and seems to be doing the trick.

I have multiple "environmental" allergies and various and sundry other
problems (hypoglycemia, IBS and the list goes on) and we started getting
rid of all the garbage including aluminum pans and plastics from the
kitchen. It has made a world of difference. I find I can even tollerate
the occasional white bread if it is homemade with all organic ingredients.

Lynda

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> Date: Sunday, May 28, 2000 9:22 AM
>
> Lynda, what brand of soy milk do you use? What I have tried has that
"bean"
> taste.... or is it just something that one more or less has to get used
to?
> ~Karen
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Lynda,
I would love to hear more about allergies. I think my little one has some
intolerance's to dairy and wheat, but I have not been about to put my finger
on what it is. He gets really gassy and had the "target" on his bottom. I
have been battling with this for the whole year of his little life. My diet
has included tons of both, plus white pastas and bread of these before he was
born.

I was raised on fried everything, so I at least have more of variety in my
diet, now

Happy Mothering,
Julie
Mommy to Ali and Matthew, Wife to a Great Man, Adam
Please check out a few of my favorite sites:
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http://www.AttachmentParenting.org
http://www.LaLecheLeague.org
http://www.naturalchild.org
"It helps me to remember that people are more important than ideas and that
being kind is more important than being right."
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In a message dated 5/29/00 3:02:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
lurine@... writes:

<< I have multiple "environmental" allergies and various and sundry other
problems (hypoglycemia, IBS and the list goes on) and we started getting
rid of all the garbage including aluminum pans and plastics from the
kitchen. It has made a world of difference. I find I can even tollerate
the occasional white bread if it is homemade with all organic ingredients.
>>

Hi Lynda, Did any of your allergies occur as an adult, or have you
had some all along? Yes, I agree about the aluminum-- it has been linked to
Alzheimer's. Also, have you tossed out teflon coated cookware? I am leery
of plastics, too... Do you keep everything (like left-overs) in glass
containers? How have your symptoms improved by removing these
things--anything specific, or just feeling better in general? I hope I am
not being too nosy... I have a vested interes though! Thanks!
~Karen in Ind