New! And with question
e400clb
Hi! I know I'm supposed to wait a week or two, but I just joined
this list an hour or so ago and have been reading dozens of posts
and I would like to post now, if that's okay!! :)
First of all, I appreciate the information and advice that is out
there... I think this list is a wonderful resource! Thank you to all
the members who take time to put your thoughts into words. This has
been very helpful to me already!!
Second, my question: my husband and I have been considering HS for a
long time now... years, really. My son is in First Grade. For a lot
of reasons I won't go into at the moment, we thought it would be a
good idea to try PS. Well, it wasn't a good experience, and we
pulled him out... today! What I am hoping some of you might be able
to help me with (though there will be plenty more in the future!!)
is how to deal with unsupportive family members. My husband's family
is all relatively nearby and are very capable of letting us know
that this is way, way too hard for us to handle. Educating our own
child. Apparently, this is a task best left to "professionals." Only
the "professionals" were throwing up their hands!
I am hoping to respond to them in a positive, constructive, and
ultimately pursuasive way. Is that possible? I'm wondering (hoping)
someone might have had a similar experience.
Well, gotta run! Eyes are getting blurry here!! LOL! Thanks in
advance for any help!
:) Carly
this list an hour or so ago and have been reading dozens of posts
and I would like to post now, if that's okay!! :)
First of all, I appreciate the information and advice that is out
there... I think this list is a wonderful resource! Thank you to all
the members who take time to put your thoughts into words. This has
been very helpful to me already!!
Second, my question: my husband and I have been considering HS for a
long time now... years, really. My son is in First Grade. For a lot
of reasons I won't go into at the moment, we thought it would be a
good idea to try PS. Well, it wasn't a good experience, and we
pulled him out... today! What I am hoping some of you might be able
to help me with (though there will be plenty more in the future!!)
is how to deal with unsupportive family members. My husband's family
is all relatively nearby and are very capable of letting us know
that this is way, way too hard for us to handle. Educating our own
child. Apparently, this is a task best left to "professionals." Only
the "professionals" were throwing up their hands!
I am hoping to respond to them in a positive, constructive, and
ultimately pursuasive way. Is that possible? I'm wondering (hoping)
someone might have had a similar experience.
Well, gotta run! Eyes are getting blurry here!! LOL! Thanks in
advance for any help!
:) Carly
pam sorooshian
>Hi and welcome, Carly.
I'll let other people answer your question, but wanted to say that the
next issue of the "New Homeschoolers Encouragement Newsletter"
(N-H-E-N), published by the National Home Education Network, will
address this very question. You can subscribe to the newsletter by
going to <www.NHEN.org>.
-pam
> What I am hoping some of you might be able
> to help me with (though there will be plenty more in the future!!)
> is how to deal with unsupportive family members. My husband's family
> is all relatively nearby and are very capable of letting us know
> that this is way, way too hard for us to handle. Educating our own
> child. Apparently, this is a task best left to "professionals." Only
> the "professionals" were throwing up their hands!
>
> I am hoping to respond to them in a positive, constructive, and
> ultimately pursuasive way. Is that possible? I'm wondering (hoping)
> someone might have had a similar experience.
>
> :) Carly
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/20/2003 12:19:06 AM Central Standard Time,
e400clb@... writes:
Educating our own
child. Apparently, this is a task best left to "professionals." Only
the "professionals" were throwing up their hands!
~~~
Just keep telling them this in one form or another. Otherwise, just hang up
on 'em if they keep giving you grief. I mean, have some boundaries.
There are lots of discussions about this topic in the archives, if you feel
like reading some more.
Tuck
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e400clb@... writes:
Educating our own
child. Apparently, this is a task best left to "professionals." Only
the "professionals" were throwing up their hands!
~~~
Just keep telling them this in one form or another. Otherwise, just hang up
on 'em if they keep giving you grief. I mean, have some boundaries.
There are lots of discussions about this topic in the archives, if you feel
like reading some more.
Tuck
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Betsy
**Second, my question: my husband and I have been considering HS for a
long time now... years, really. My son is in First Grade. For a lot
of reasons I won't go into at the moment, we thought it would be a
good idea to try PS. Well, it wasn't a good experience, and we
pulled him out... today! What I am hoping some of you might be able
to help me with (though there will be plenty more in the future!!)
is how to deal with unsupportive family members.**
If you go to the unschooling.com message boards:
http://www.unschooling.com/discus/messages/board-topics.html
and scroll down to the heading "Dealing with Reluctance" you'll find
archives of many discussions about dealing with reluctant family members.
I hope some of this will help you.
Two things that I think help are (1) being confident in your choices so
you don't look like an easy target for bullies. And (2) Being able to
hear a person out and nod pleasantly and maybe thank them for caring
without feeling like you actually need to TAKE their advice. This
second one can be very hard, as some shocked family members will say
very intrusive and insulting things. Either call them on it or let it
roll off.
Betsy
long time now... years, really. My son is in First Grade. For a lot
of reasons I won't go into at the moment, we thought it would be a
good idea to try PS. Well, it wasn't a good experience, and we
pulled him out... today! What I am hoping some of you might be able
to help me with (though there will be plenty more in the future!!)
is how to deal with unsupportive family members.**
If you go to the unschooling.com message boards:
http://www.unschooling.com/discus/messages/board-topics.html
and scroll down to the heading "Dealing with Reluctance" you'll find
archives of many discussions about dealing with reluctant family members.
I hope some of this will help you.
Two things that I think help are (1) being confident in your choices so
you don't look like an easy target for bullies. And (2) Being able to
hear a person out and nod pleasantly and maybe thank them for caring
without feeling like you actually need to TAKE their advice. This
second one can be very hard, as some shocked family members will say
very intrusive and insulting things. Either call them on it or let it
roll off.
Betsy
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/19/03 11:19:18 PM, e400clb@... writes:
<< I am hoping to respond to them in a positive, constructive, and
ultimately pursuasive way. Is that possible? >>
Stalling tactics work best, and soothing reassurance that if it's not working
you'll put him back in school. Just make sure it stays where they know that
YOU are the judges of whether it's working.
Instead of saying "He'll never see the inside of another school" say "We're
going to try this for a while and see how it goes."
Then they can have hope that you'll fail. <g> But what usually happens is
that the kid wins them over.
Sandra
<< I am hoping to respond to them in a positive, constructive, and
ultimately pursuasive way. Is that possible? >>
Stalling tactics work best, and soothing reassurance that if it's not working
you'll put him back in school. Just make sure it stays where they know that
YOU are the judges of whether it's working.
Instead of saying "He'll never see the inside of another school" say "We're
going to try this for a while and see how it goes."
Then they can have hope that you'll fail. <g> But what usually happens is
that the kid wins them over.
Sandra
e400clb
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
truly appreciate your suggestions! They have been really helpful!
Tonight we visited my husband's grandmother (great-grandmother to
our kids) and lo-and-behold when I broke the news that we had pulled
him out of school, she said, "Oh, I have met a woman who has a 6yo
son in first grade (like Joel) who had to pull her son out, too. He
and the teacher were just like this..." and she put her two fists
together.
Funny, she's been the most vocal about her doubts about
homeschooling, but she has met someone who obviously she thinks
highly of who has decided to do this, so now it's okay! LOL!
I'm glad. It will make things easier. I think. I hope! :)
Thanks again, everyone!
:) Carly
>Thanks, Sandra, and to everyone who responded to my question!! I
> Instead of saying "He'll never see the inside of another school"
>say "We're
> going to try this for a while and see how it goes."
>
> Then they can have hope that you'll fail. <g> But what usually
>happens is
> that the kid wins them over.
>
> Sandra
truly appreciate your suggestions! They have been really helpful!
Tonight we visited my husband's grandmother (great-grandmother to
our kids) and lo-and-behold when I broke the news that we had pulled
him out of school, she said, "Oh, I have met a woman who has a 6yo
son in first grade (like Joel) who had to pull her son out, too. He
and the teacher were just like this..." and she put her two fists
together.
Funny, she's been the most vocal about her doubts about
homeschooling, but she has met someone who obviously she thinks
highly of who has decided to do this, so now it's okay! LOL!
I'm glad. It will make things easier. I think. I hope! :)
Thanks again, everyone!
:) Carly
Wendy Carr
My mom thinks I cant do Homeschooling. She always says "I dont know about
this Home school thing" And she doesnt even know that we dont do book work
anymore!! Gasp - she would just die! We are traveling home Monday, and we
plan to NOT tell anyone about the unschooling. My MIL doesnt even know we
homeschool! Im not ashamed about it, but I just hate to hear the reactions!
I never have a good come back!
I did ask her tonight to start buying Austyn ( age Almost 9) some books that
he might like - Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Dragon Ball Z, ect.... He NEEDS to read
more, and thats what he likes to read. She said "No Problem, as long as you
make him read them" Ugh!
Wendy
When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a
thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning
of fairies. - Barrie
Mom to Austyn(8) and Caitlin(4 months)
Proud To Home-school!
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this Home school thing" And she doesnt even know that we dont do book work
anymore!! Gasp - she would just die! We are traveling home Monday, and we
plan to NOT tell anyone about the unschooling. My MIL doesnt even know we
homeschool! Im not ashamed about it, but I just hate to hear the reactions!
I never have a good come back!
I did ask her tonight to start buying Austyn ( age Almost 9) some books that
he might like - Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Dragon Ball Z, ect.... He NEEDS to read
more, and thats what he likes to read. She said "No Problem, as long as you
make him read them" Ugh!
Wendy
>From: "e400clb" <e400clb@...>Wendy Carr
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: New! And with question
>Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:32:52 -0000
>
When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a
thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning
of fairies. - Barrie
Mom to Austyn(8) and Caitlin(4 months)
Proud To Home-school!
_________________________________________________________________
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Barbara Moreda
Carly ...
I think you will find that your relatives will know at least one family who
is homeschooling. They may be doing it "differently" than you ... either
more structure or less or using more "stuff" than you ... but at least they
will have heard of it and hopefully in a positive light. :)
I made the decision to homeschool when my oldest was 1. My mom was not all
that supportive, but then again, I was already doing "weird" (AP) things
anyway so she was getting used to me. She then was invited over for dinner
with a family who homeschooled 10 kids! The 15 yo did ALL the cooking and
meal planning, down to making the grocery list (and he was a he!) and my mom
was just so impressed. She does quiz me sometimes and at one point in the
past few months, it was a VERY good thing she lives 6 hours away as I was
about to throttle her ... but we always seem to move beyond it. I know she
would like to see more "structure" in our lives in many ways, not just
schooling so I try to avoid complaining about things where I think she will
just suggest that. :)
Good luck and enjoy the ride!
Barbara
Barbara Moreda
Visit www.homeiscool.com for great deals on Usborne Books
Rent DVD's online through Mentura at www.homeiscool.com
Mommy to RJ (12/91), Michael (11/95) and Maggie (2/98)
mailto:homeiscool@...
I think you will find that your relatives will know at least one family who
is homeschooling. They may be doing it "differently" than you ... either
more structure or less or using more "stuff" than you ... but at least they
will have heard of it and hopefully in a positive light. :)
I made the decision to homeschool when my oldest was 1. My mom was not all
that supportive, but then again, I was already doing "weird" (AP) things
anyway so she was getting used to me. She then was invited over for dinner
with a family who homeschooled 10 kids! The 15 yo did ALL the cooking and
meal planning, down to making the grocery list (and he was a he!) and my mom
was just so impressed. She does quiz me sometimes and at one point in the
past few months, it was a VERY good thing she lives 6 hours away as I was
about to throttle her ... but we always seem to move beyond it. I know she
would like to see more "structure" in our lives in many ways, not just
schooling so I try to avoid complaining about things where I think she will
just suggest that. :)
Good luck and enjoy the ride!
Barbara
Barbara Moreda
Visit www.homeiscool.com for great deals on Usborne Books
Rent DVD's online through Mentura at www.homeiscool.com
Mommy to RJ (12/91), Michael (11/95) and Maggie (2/98)
mailto:homeiscool@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "e400clb" <e400clb@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:32 AM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: New! And with question
> --- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> >
> > Instead of saying "He'll never see the inside of another school"
> >say "We're
> > going to try this for a while and see how it goes."
> >
> > Then they can have hope that you'll fail. <g> But what usually
> >happens is
> > that the kid wins them over.
> >
> > Sandra
>
> Thanks, Sandra, and to everyone who responded to my question!! I
> truly appreciate your suggestions! They have been really helpful!
>
> Tonight we visited my husband's grandmother (great-grandmother to
> our kids) and lo-and-behold when I broke the news that we had pulled
> him out of school, she said, "Oh, I have met a woman who has a 6yo
> son in first grade (like Joel) who had to pull her son out, too. He
> and the teacher were just like this..." and she put her two fists
> together.
>
> Funny, she's been the most vocal about her doubts about
> homeschooling, but she has met someone who obviously she thinks
> highly of who has decided to do this, so now it's okay! LOL!
>
> I'm glad. It will make things easier. I think. I hope! :)
>
> Thanks again, everyone!
>
> :) Carly
>
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Fetteroll
on 12/21/03 1:28 AM, Wendy Carr at WendyWCarr@... wrote:
Joyce
> He NEEDS to read moreWhy does he NEED to read more?
Joyce
[email protected]
I'm happy this is working out for you.
One of the big steps in my Mom becoming completely comfortable with our hsing
was when she started volunteering in the local ps. You might suggest that to
any relatives with doubts -- it might not be as peachy as they are
remembering, as my Mom could explain. :)
Nance
In a message dated 12/21/2003 4:05:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Tonight we visited my husband's grandmother (great-grandmother to
our kids) and lo-and-behold when I broke the news that we had pulled
him out of school, she said, "Oh, I have met a woman who has a 6yo
son in first grade (like Joel) who had to pull her son out, too. He
and the teacher were just like this..." and she put her two fists
together.
Funny, she's been the most vocal about her doubts about
homeschooling, but she has met someone who obviously she thinks
highly of who has decided to do this, so now it's okay! LOL!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
One of the big steps in my Mom becoming completely comfortable with our hsing
was when she started volunteering in the local ps. You might suggest that to
any relatives with doubts -- it might not be as peachy as they are
remembering, as my Mom could explain. :)
Nance
In a message dated 12/21/2003 4:05:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Tonight we visited my husband's grandmother (great-grandmother to
our kids) and lo-and-behold when I broke the news that we had pulled
him out of school, she said, "Oh, I have met a woman who has a 6yo
son in first grade (like Joel) who had to pull her son out, too. He
and the teacher were just like this..." and she put her two fists
together.
Funny, she's been the most vocal about her doubts about
homeschooling, but she has met someone who obviously she thinks
highly of who has decided to do this, so now it's okay! LOL!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
<<<I made the decision to homeschool when my oldest was 1. My mom was not all
that supportive, but then again, I was already doing "weird" (AP) things
anyway so she was getting used to me.
Barbara>>>
*******************************************************************
My MIL keeps asking me if I will HS our 4 yr. old or the baby on the way. I
just keep telling her probably but its up to them. Because I told her it was
up to them I think she has been talking about school to my 4 yr. old cuz she
says she wants to go so she can get a lunch box and play games. Laura
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that supportive, but then again, I was already doing "weird" (AP) things
anyway so she was getting used to me.
Barbara>>>
*******************************************************************
My MIL keeps asking me if I will HS our 4 yr. old or the baby on the way. I
just keep telling her probably but its up to them. Because I told her it was
up to them I think she has been talking about school to my 4 yr. old cuz she
says she wants to go so she can get a lunch box and play games. Laura
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/21/2003 2:05:53 AM Mountain Standard Time,
WendyWCarr@... writes:
She said "No Problem, as long as you
make him read them" Ugh!
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh gag.
Well you could say you're sure he'll put them to good use.
You don't have to say "Okay I will" or "No, I'm not going to."
Sandra
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WendyWCarr@... writes:
She said "No Problem, as long as you
make him read them" Ugh!
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh gag.
Well you could say you're sure he'll put them to good use.
You don't have to say "Okay I will" or "No, I'm not going to."
Sandra
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Wendy Carr
Im still somewhat in that school mode LOL Cause Im scared he will forget how
to read. But he does like books on things he likes, but they are hard to
find! Pokemon and other Anime (sp)
Wendy
When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a
thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning
of fairies. - Barrie
Mom to Austyn(8) and Caitlin(4 months)
Proud To Home-school!
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to read. But he does like books on things he likes, but they are hard to
find! Pokemon and other Anime (sp)
Wendy
>From: Fetteroll <fetteroll@...>Wendy Carr
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: New! And with question
>Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 04:20:44 -0500
>
When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a
thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning
of fairies. - Barrie
Mom to Austyn(8) and Caitlin(4 months)
Proud To Home-school!
_________________________________________________________________
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Tia Leschke
> I know sheI learned this with my mil. When Lars was around 9 months, he was going
>would like to see more "structure" in our lives in many ways, not just
>schooling so I try to avoid complaining about things where I think she will
>just suggest that. :)
through a nursing marathon and I was getting tired of it. I said something
a bit complaining, and she started in on how I should wean him. I didn't
start taking her suggestions, I just learned to vent to someone who would
understand.
Tia
Tia Leschke
>Im still somewhat in that school mode LOL Cause Im scared he will forget howI think it's like riding a bicycle. I don't think you forget how, unless
>to read.
you learned under duress. If that's the case, he might completely stop for
a while. But that's ok. He'll be learning other things that are important
to him. Keep reading aloud to him, anything he likes. Eventually he'll want
to read them himself.
Tia
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/21/2003 1:41:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
WendyWCarr@... writes:
<<Im still somewhat in that school mode LOL Cause Im scared he will forget
how
to read.>>
LOL, I've never known a child to forget how to read. Reading is a skill that
most people use so often. My 7 year old dd recently started really reading,
and she said to me, "Mom, I just can't help myself from reading everything I
see. [she was referring to signs and written stuff you see outside] The words
just pop into my head. Only a little while ago I didn't really even notice
them."
--Jacqueline
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WendyWCarr@... writes:
<<Im still somewhat in that school mode LOL Cause Im scared he will forget
how
to read.>>
LOL, I've never known a child to forget how to read. Reading is a skill that
most people use so often. My 7 year old dd recently started really reading,
and she said to me, "Mom, I just can't help myself from reading everything I
see. [she was referring to signs and written stuff you see outside] The words
just pop into my head. Only a little while ago I didn't really even notice
them."
--Jacqueline
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[email protected]
My son did when he entered school. In first grade he nearly stopped reading.
He would forget how to say words he knew quite well it was odd.
Laura
****************************************************
<<In a message dated 12/21/2003 4:21:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ivorygrace7@... writes:
LOL, I've never known a child to forget how to read. Reading is a skill that
most people use so often. My 7 year old dd recently started really reading,
and she said to me, "Mom, I just can't help myself from reading everything I
see. [she was referring to signs and written stuff you see outside] The
words
just pop into my head. Only a little while ago I didn't really even notice
them."
--Jacqueline
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He would forget how to say words he knew quite well it was odd.
Laura
****************************************************
<<In a message dated 12/21/2003 4:21:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ivorygrace7@... writes:
LOL, I've never known a child to forget how to read. Reading is a skill that
most people use so often. My 7 year old dd recently started really reading,
and she said to me, "Mom, I just can't help myself from reading everything I
see. [she was referring to signs and written stuff you see outside] The
words
just pop into my head. Only a little while ago I didn't really even notice
them."
--Jacqueline
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Wendy Carr
Thanks everyone! I guess I just need to hear you all say it, that he will be
OK LOL
Wendy
When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a
thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning
of fairies. - Barrie
Mom to Austyn(8) and Caitlin(4 months)
Proud To Home-school!
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OK LOL
Wendy
>From: ivorygrace7@...Wendy Carr
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: New! And with question
>Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:18:17 EST
>
When the first baby laughed for the first time, the laugh broke into a
thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning
of fairies. - Barrie
Mom to Austyn(8) and Caitlin(4 months)
Proud To Home-school!
_________________________________________________________________
Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed
providers now. https://broadband.msn.com
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