Truth revealed.
[email protected]
Type in "less than greater than alligator" in Google and see what a bunch of
shit I made up to post to this group.
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shit I made up to post to this group.
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Tia Leschke
>Type in "less than greater than alligator" in Google and see what a bunch ofSo there's lots of this stuff online. There's lots of stuff online. How
>shit I made up to post to this group.
does that make it a good idea?
Tia, who doesn't remember anyone saying that Theresa made it up, just that
it wasn't a good way to explain the symbols
pam sorooshian
Truth revealed? Sandra already posted a number of google links to
lesson plans about alligators and said she took back saying she thought
you'd made it up and that it is a school thing. You should read before
posting so you don't jump in and proclaim "truth revealed" after it was
already done.
lesson plans about alligators and said she took back saying she thought
you'd made it up and that it is a school thing. You should read before
posting so you don't jump in and proclaim "truth revealed" after it was
already done.
On Dec 14, 2003, at 12:58 PM, TeresaBnNC@... wrote:
> Type in "less than greater than alligator" in Google and see what a
> bunch of
> shit I made up to post to this group.
You posted about a school method of teaching as if it was a good idea.
I didn't and wouldn't call it what you have called it in this post, but
I will continue to argue that school math methods to teach memory
tricks instead of real learning and understanding are not a good path
for unschoolers to trod and that it can lead to many problems.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
TreeGoddess
Wow. I didn't read any posts that said you made anything up.
-Tracy-
-Tracy-
On Dec 14, 2003, at 3:58 PM, TeresaBnNC@... wrote:
> Type in "less than greater than alligator" in Google and see what a
> bunch of shit I made up to post to this group.
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/14/2003 3:04:57 PM Central Standard Time,
TeresaBnNC@... writes:
Type in "less than greater than alligator" in Google and see what a bunch of
shit I made up to post to this group.
~~~
Gee, no need to get all worked up.
I'm glad you posted this, though, because I did google and I came across this
website:
http://www.disobey.com/dnn/2003/08/index.shtml
August 22, 2003
When you were in school, the teacher always had a funny mnemonic for the
less-than (<) and greater-than (>) signs. One of my teachers did the "alligator"
thing - the smaller alligator always eats the bigger alligator. I've also heard
of the opposite: the bigger number always "shoots" the smaller one. I always
had great difficulty remembering the mnemonics (meta-mnemonics, anyone?), and
how exactly they worked. (Similar to other concepts that require, but
shouldn't, my forethought: reading an analog clock, knowing the order of the months
and alphabets, remembering holidays, how old I am, etc.)
About a year ago, I finally figured it out. It wasn't about alligators or
righteous gunmen, it was all about encoding: less-than was literally <, or the
start of an element, and greater-than >, the end of an element. It was so
simple, so blantantly obvious, it borders on the power of an epiphany.
What interests me most, though, is hearing what mnemonic teachers are using
nowadays. With kids always knowing more about computers than older folk, are
HTML and similar markups prevalent enough to make this a more palatable
comparison? Any one got kids?
(by Morbus Iff in "TechnOccult" at permalink)
(Entitled "Less Than, Greater Than?", updated 10:58:45)
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TeresaBnNC@... writes:
Type in "less than greater than alligator" in Google and see what a bunch of
shit I made up to post to this group.
~~~
Gee, no need to get all worked up.
I'm glad you posted this, though, because I did google and I came across this
website:
http://www.disobey.com/dnn/2003/08/index.shtml
August 22, 2003
When you were in school, the teacher always had a funny mnemonic for the
less-than (<) and greater-than (>) signs. One of my teachers did the "alligator"
thing - the smaller alligator always eats the bigger alligator. I've also heard
of the opposite: the bigger number always "shoots" the smaller one. I always
had great difficulty remembering the mnemonics (meta-mnemonics, anyone?), and
how exactly they worked. (Similar to other concepts that require, but
shouldn't, my forethought: reading an analog clock, knowing the order of the months
and alphabets, remembering holidays, how old I am, etc.)
About a year ago, I finally figured it out. It wasn't about alligators or
righteous gunmen, it was all about encoding: less-than was literally <, or the
start of an element, and greater-than >, the end of an element. It was so
simple, so blantantly obvious, it borders on the power of an epiphany.
What interests me most, though, is hearing what mnemonic teachers are using
nowadays. With kids always knowing more about computers than older folk, are
HTML and similar markups prevalent enough to make this a more palatable
comparison? Any one got kids?
(by Morbus Iff in "TechnOccult" at permalink)
(Entitled "Less Than, Greater Than?", updated 10:58:45)
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/14/2003 2:35:49 PM Mountain Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
she took back saying she thought
you'd made it up and that it is a school thing.
==============
What I considered to have been made up was not the alligator [I started to
say analogy, but it's not an analogy] trick, but the sudden claim to know LOTS
of people of all ages who used that to remember greater than.
Seeing that it's a song, though, and it's on lesson-plan-sharing sites
online, I figure it's been in lots of classrooms and so it's more widespread than
originally presented.
That doesn't make it good or useful for this list.
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
she took back saying she thought
you'd made it up and that it is a school thing.
==============
What I considered to have been made up was not the alligator [I started to
say analogy, but it's not an analogy] trick, but the sudden claim to know LOTS
of people of all ages who used that to remember greater than.
Seeing that it's a song, though, and it's on lesson-plan-sharing sites
online, I figure it's been in lots of classrooms and so it's more widespread than
originally presented.
That doesn't make it good or useful for this list.
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/14/2003 4:36:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
<<You should read before
posting so you don't jump in and proclaim "truth revealed" after it was
already done.>>
Although this wasn't directed to me, I wanted to note that I usually only
read my mail once a day, and usually reply to something right after I read it.
Otherwise, I would probably lose my train of thought and not reply.
This leads to sometimes posting something that someone has already followed
up on or changed. I always thought this was typical on this type of list.
Some people get their messages in digests and only read a couple of times a week.
--Jacqueline
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
<<You should read before
posting so you don't jump in and proclaim "truth revealed" after it was
already done.>>
Although this wasn't directed to me, I wanted to note that I usually only
read my mail once a day, and usually reply to something right after I read it.
Otherwise, I would probably lose my train of thought and not reply.
This leads to sometimes posting something that someone has already followed
up on or changed. I always thought this was typical on this type of list.
Some people get their messages in digests and only read a couple of times a week.
--Jacqueline
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/14/2003 5:53:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
but the sudden claim to know LOTS
of people of all ages who used that to remember greater than.
I asked my kids about this. The two girls are very familiar with it, the 15
year old tells me she still will use that to run a problem through her head
sometimes.
She said to her it is useful and cute and she like it. At her elementary
school they were the Garrisonville Gators. She thought it was made up just for
them.
Since she still uses it without textbook learning or classroom setting, it
must have been something useful for her.
Just what I've learned today about it from my kids.
glena
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SandraDodd@... writes:
but the sudden claim to know LOTS
of people of all ages who used that to remember greater than.
I asked my kids about this. The two girls are very familiar with it, the 15
year old tells me she still will use that to run a problem through her head
sometimes.
She said to her it is useful and cute and she like it. At her elementary
school they were the Garrisonville Gators. She thought it was made up just for
them.
Since she still uses it without textbook learning or classroom setting, it
must have been something useful for her.
Just what I've learned today about it from my kids.
glena
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Tia Leschke
>One way to get around that is to just not delete the ones you want to reply
>
>
>Although this wasn't directed to me, I wanted to note that I usually only
>read my mail once a day, and usually reply to something right after I read
>it.
>Otherwise, I would probably lose my train of thought and not reply.
to. When you've finished reading, go back and reply to the ones you still
want to reply to. I usually find that there are fewer that I follow up on
than I thought I would.
Tia
pam sorooshian
On Dec 14, 2003, at 3:32 PM, ivorygrace7@... wrote:
say "Neeeeevvvermiiiind" later <G>.
But not if I'm jumping all over someone to prove them wrong and
proclaiming "Truth Revealed" in my subject line.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
> Although this wasn't directed to me, I wanted to note that I usuallyI do it too, Jaqueline. And sometimes post something only to have to
> only
> read my mail once a day, and usually reply to something right after I
> read it.
> Otherwise, I would probably lose my train of thought and not reply.
>
> This leads to sometimes posting something that someone has already
> followed
> up on or changed. I always thought this was typical on this type of
> list.
say "Neeeeevvvermiiiind" later <G>.
But not if I'm jumping all over someone to prove them wrong and
proclaiming "Truth Revealed" in my subject line.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<<What I considered to have been made up was not the alligator [I started to
say analogy, but it's not an analogy] trick, but the sudden claim to know
LOTS
of people of all ages who used that to remember greater than.>>
My mom was a school teacher for years in private and public schools. I
always went to school and my oldest has always gone to school. I have never
heard about the alligator < > thing at all. In fact, it took awhile for me
to figure it out. (sigh)
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
<<What I considered to have been made up was not the alligator [I started to
say analogy, but it's not an analogy] trick, but the sudden claim to know
LOTS
of people of all ages who used that to remember greater than.>>
My mom was a school teacher for years in private and public schools. I
always went to school and my oldest has always gone to school. I have never
heard about the alligator < > thing at all. In fact, it took awhile for me
to figure it out. (sigh)
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
Mary
From: "Tia Leschke" <leschke@...>
<<One way to get around that is to just not delete the ones you want to
reply
to. When you've finished reading, go back and reply to the ones you still
want to reply to. I usually find that there are fewer that I follow up on
than I thought I would.>>'
That's exactly what I do too. Just read through as much as I can and keep
what I want to answer. I usually find when I go back and look at the ones I
kept, I don't need to respond after all. If someone said just what I was
going to say, usually in a better way, why post more?
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
<<One way to get around that is to just not delete the ones you want to
reply
to. When you've finished reading, go back and reply to the ones you still
want to reply to. I usually find that there are fewer that I follow up on
than I thought I would.>>'
That's exactly what I do too. Just read through as much as I can and keep
what I want to answer. I usually find when I go back and look at the ones I
kept, I don't need to respond after all. If someone said just what I was
going to say, usually in a better way, why post more?
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com