Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Choosing Names was: Nearly Gone
[email protected]
Dunno how relevant this, is but my 8-year-old recently asked why girls
aren't "juniors" named after their mothers. So I thought about our family
trees and it's true that there are no girls with the mom's full name, though the
middle name often is either the mom's maiden name or a grandmother's first
name, and the first name often belongs to several people already beloved by that
family, going back many generations.
But my parents always told me I wasn't named for anyone, that they had
broken from family tradition and given me a name that didn't refer to anyone
else, a name especially for me.
This notion charmed me and probably influenced the fact that 35 years
later, for our own daughter, we chose a name we just found beautiful and for
her alone, not naming her "after" anyone else.
The funny part is now that she's become such a theatre buff, she tells
various stories among her fellow performers about the legacy of where her
first and middle names came from. The latest -- quite plausible -- version she's
having fun with is that her first name came from a famous Broadway
composer-choreographer, while her middle name was given in honor of the Wizard of Oz
movie.
(I've never written my dd's or ds's real names on the Internet
anywhere -- maybe someone can persuade me this is a foolish precaution even for a
worrywart like me? <g>) JJ
aren't "juniors" named after their mothers. So I thought about our family
trees and it's true that there are no girls with the mom's full name, though the
middle name often is either the mom's maiden name or a grandmother's first
name, and the first name often belongs to several people already beloved by that
family, going back many generations.
But my parents always told me I wasn't named for anyone, that they had
broken from family tradition and given me a name that didn't refer to anyone
else, a name especially for me.
This notion charmed me and probably influenced the fact that 35 years
later, for our own daughter, we chose a name we just found beautiful and for
her alone, not naming her "after" anyone else.
The funny part is now that she's become such a theatre buff, she tells
various stories among her fellow performers about the legacy of where her
first and middle names came from. The latest -- quite plausible -- version she's
having fun with is that her first name came from a famous Broadway
composer-choreographer, while her middle name was given in honor of the Wizard of Oz
movie.
(I've never written my dd's or ds's real names on the Internet
anywhere -- maybe someone can persuade me this is a foolish precaution even for a
worrywart like me? <g>) JJ
pam sorooshian
I'll tell you its a foolish precaution unless you can give me a
reasonable scenario in which giving our real names on the internet is
foolish.
I can't figure out what danger there could possibly be in it.
-pam
reasonable scenario in which giving our real names on the internet is
foolish.
I can't figure out what danger there could possibly be in it.
-pam
On Dec 12, 2003, at 7:54 AM, jrossedd@... wrote:
> (I've never written my dd's or ds's real names on the Internet
> anywhere -- maybe someone can persuade me this is a foolish precaution
> even for a
> worrywart like me? <g>) JJ
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In a message dated 12/12/2003 2:48:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Dunno how relevant this, is but my 8-year-old recently asked why girls
aren't "juniors" named after their mothers. So I thought about our family
trees and it's true that there are no girls with the mom's full name, though
the
middle name often is either the mom's maiden name or a grandmother's first
name, and the first name often belongs to several people already beloved by
that
family, going back many generations.
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They used to. In a lot of the Salem Witch Trial documents there are
references to daughters named after their mothers, and "Junior" is used.
Kathryn
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[email protected] writes:
Dunno how relevant this, is but my 8-year-old recently asked why girls
aren't "juniors" named after their mothers. So I thought about our family
trees and it's true that there are no girls with the mom's full name, though
the
middle name often is either the mom's maiden name or a grandmother's first
name, and the first name often belongs to several people already beloved by
that
family, going back many generations.
******************
They used to. In a lot of the Salem Witch Trial documents there are
references to daughters named after their mothers, and "Junior" is used.
Kathryn
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Fetteroll
on 12/12/03 10:54 AM, jrossedd@... at jrossedd@... wrote:
had a problem. (Though I do usually write "my husband" and "my daughter" in
posts just because it seems odd to be using their names when responding to
people who haven't met them. Their names just don't "sound" right in my head
when I read it back.)
I'm the only Joyce Fetteroll in the world so even if I never mentioned
living in Medfield MA I'm easily locatable. None of us have ever had
problems because of that.
Just like the real world, on the internet there are more risky places to be
and less risky places to be. Pretty much the only places I communicate with
people are homeschooling areas and those haven't generated any problems for
us at all.
Joyce
> (I've never written my dd's or ds's real names on the InternetI've been using all our real names for most of my 8 years on line and never
> anywhere -- maybe someone can persuade me this is a foolish precaution even
> for a
> worrywart like me? <g>)
had a problem. (Though I do usually write "my husband" and "my daughter" in
posts just because it seems odd to be using their names when responding to
people who haven't met them. Their names just don't "sound" right in my head
when I read it back.)
I'm the only Joyce Fetteroll in the world so even if I never mentioned
living in Medfield MA I'm easily locatable. None of us have ever had
problems because of that.
Just like the real world, on the internet there are more risky places to be
and less risky places to be. Pretty much the only places I communicate with
people are homeschooling areas and those haven't generated any problems for
us at all.
Joyce
zenmomma2kids
>>I'm the only Joyce Fetteroll in the world...>>How do you know that? Is Fetteroll an uncommon name? In the whole
world? Really?
Jon once googled my name and came up with lots of interesting Mary
Golds. Waaay more interesting than me. ;-)
Life is good.
~Mary
Crystal
> Jon once googled my name and came up with lots of interesting Mary****************************************
> Golds. Waaay more interesting than me. ;-)
>
Not so funny Google story. I had someone using my social security
number to file taxes. They didn't know my name, so I'm thinking they
just made up a number and it happened to be mine. There was a thread
on a message board I was on about identity theft so I related my
story along with the names of the people who were using my SS
number. About 3 or 4 months later, the husband contacted me! He was
getting a divorce and he googled his wife's name and my post popped
up! That was so freaky! I contacted the police to ask them whether
or not I should answer the post. They said there was no reason to
answer or not to, so to just do what I felt comfortable doing. So I
set up a free email and contacted him with questions that he
answered. We've never spoken since but he gave me the information I
needed about his wife and I passed the information to the proper
authorities. He said he was just as shocked as I was to see his
wife's name on Google.
I've Googled my own name and there is never a reference to me. There
is another Crystal Pina, though, in TX. And there is Crystal Lite,
Pina Colada flavor. But, not much else.
Crystal
pam sorooshian
On Dec 13, 2003, at 9:26 AM, Crystal wrote:
was 19 or so. I just remembered it wrong and didn't notice until I had
to pull my card out for some reason a couple of years later.
-pam
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> I had someone using my social securityI used the wrong social security number for a couple of years when I
> number to file taxes. They didn't know my name, so I'm thinking they
> just made up a number and it happened to be mine.
was 19 or so. I just remembered it wrong and didn't notice until I had
to pull my card out for some reason a couple of years later.
-pam
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<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/13/2003 3:28:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
I had someone using my social security
was 19 or so. I just remembered it wrong and didn't notice until I had
to pull my card out for some reason a couple of years later.
-pam
Year before last when we tried to e-file our taxes we found out that someone
had claimed ME, a forty something person as a dependent and used it for a
deduction. It was straightened out on our end fairly quickly without much
consequence for us, I'm not sure what happened to the person who tried to use it.
glena
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
I had someone using my social security
> number to file taxes. They didn't know my name, so I'm thinking theyI used the wrong social security number for a couple of years when I
> just made up a number and it happened to be mine.
was 19 or so. I just remembered it wrong and didn't notice until I had
to pull my card out for some reason a couple of years later.
-pam
Year before last when we tried to e-file our taxes we found out that someone
had claimed ME, a forty something person as a dependent and used it for a
deduction. It was straightened out on our end fairly quickly without much
consequence for us, I'm not sure what happened to the person who tried to use it.
glena
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Crystal
That's crazy, Glena.
Pam, I have a bad habit of transposing numbers and I'm always afraid
I'll do that with my SS# so I have to double and triple check my
returns each year just to make sure. So far I haven't done it on my
taxes.
What I found out from this woman's husband was that she used my SS#
to file a second tax return and get two refunds. He said he didn't
know she was doing that and that during their divorce he's finding
lots of stuff he didn't know about her. They are currently living in
Taiwan (where she's from--he's American) and they are in a custody
battle for their kids. I'm not sure how much of his story I believe
but at least she's out of the country and I don't think she'll be
able to get back in with the charges that have been filed.
Crystal
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--- In [email protected], rubyprincesstsg@a...
wrote:
Pam, I have a bad habit of transposing numbers and I'm always afraid
I'll do that with my SS# so I have to double and triple check my
returns each year just to make sure. So far I haven't done it on my
taxes.
What I found out from this woman's husband was that she used my SS#
to file a second tax return and get two refunds. He said he didn't
know she was doing that and that during their divorce he's finding
lots of stuff he didn't know about her. They are currently living in
Taiwan (where she's from--he's American) and they are in a custody
battle for their kids. I'm not sure how much of his story I believe
but at least she's out of the country and I don't think she'll be
able to get back in with the charges that have been filed.
Crystal
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--- In [email protected], rubyprincesstsg@a...
wrote:
> In a message dated 12/13/2003 3:28:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,they
> pamsoroosh@m... writes:
> I had someone using my social security
> > number to file taxes. They didn't know my name, so I'm thinking
> > just made up a number and it happened to be mine.I
>
> I used the wrong social security number for a couple of years when
> was 19 or so. I just remembered it wrong and didn't notice until Ihad
> to pull my card out for some reason a couple of years later.that someone
>
> -pam
>
>
>
>
> Year before last when we tried to e-file our taxes we found out
> had claimed ME, a forty something person as a dependent and used itfor a
> deduction. It was straightened out on our end fairly quicklywithout much
> consequence for us, I'm not sure what happened to the person whotried to use it.
>
> glena
>
>
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Fetteroll
on 12/13/03 11:09 AM, zenmomma2kids at zenmomma@... wrote:
was originally and it got misspelled at Ellis Island. There's one Fetteroll
in England and then my father-in-law and his 4 sons. If you type Fetteroll
into Google it's just us. As a matter of fact if you do Google Images,
you'll get me, Carl, Kat and my father in law. :-)
Joyce
> How do you know that? Is Fetteroll an uncommon name? In the wholeFetterolf is a not uncommon German name and we suspect that's what the name
> world? Really?
was originally and it got misspelled at Ellis Island. There's one Fetteroll
in England and then my father-in-law and his 4 sons. If you type Fetteroll
into Google it's just us. As a matter of fact if you do Google Images,
you'll get me, Carl, Kat and my father in law. :-)
Joyce
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/13/2003 8:40:45 PM Central Standard Time,
fetteroll@... writes:
As a matter of fact if you do Google Images,
you'll get me, Carl, Kat and my father in law. :-)
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And good pictures they are, too!
I never would have thought of trying that. Put my name in and you get 6
pages of photos, none of which are me. Only one of them is related to my whole
name. Several are pictures of animals with the name "Tucker". :)
Tuck
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fetteroll@... writes:
As a matter of fact if you do Google Images,
you'll get me, Carl, Kat and my father in law. :-)
~~~~
And good pictures they are, too!
I never would have thought of trying that. Put my name in and you get 6
pages of photos, none of which are me. Only one of them is related to my whole
name. Several are pictures of animals with the name "Tucker". :)
Tuck
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zenmomma2kids
>>As a matter of fact if you do Google Images, you'll get me, Carl,Kat and my father in law. :-)>>
Cool.
When I put in my name I got a bunch of pictures of flowers.
<grumble, grumble>
<g>
Life is good.
~Mary