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In a message dated 11/1/03 07:14:26 PM Central Standard Time,
aceto3@... writes:
One for the "they'll never eat anything but junk" people -- yesterday evening
after we got back from trick or treating and I walked past my 5 y.o. sitting
with her basket of candy at the table and noticed that one of the first things
she had eaten was the apple she got from our next-door neighbor.

-Cat
##########

Yeah! This was probably the third (?) Halloween with no candy restrictions on
my part. (except that Darin or I have to check it first) The first year was
hell (for me) because they gorged. Last year wasn't so bad, they had it eaten
in about a week, better than the year before. This year, and it is only the
first night after, but so far I think there has only been five or six pieces
eaten from each bag. Not that I am counting, but since the only rule is they have
to let me check the candy before they eat it, I see how much has been eaten.
Some might say it took three years to get to this point, but I say the candy
only lasts a few weeks and it is only once a year so by my count this only took
about a month. <g> Three years ago they wouldn't have shared or wanted to
unless forced. The bags would have been each placed in separate areas with lots of
"This is MY bag" and "Don't forget this is where MY bag goes." This year the
bags haven't moved from the coffee table and I don't think I could tell which
Walmart bag was Moly's or Jack's and I doubt they could either. Three years
ago there would have been careful counting and inventory taken, making sure each
got the lions share of the wealth, this year they have just reached in when
the mood struck and picked what they wanted and left the rest.
Another small step!
~Nancy


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In a message dated 11/1/03 8:14:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aceto3@... writes:

> One for the "they'll never eat anything but junk" people -- yesterday
> evening after we got back from trick or treating and I walked past my 5 y.o.
> sitting with her basket of candy at the table and noticed that one of the first
> things she had eaten was the apple she got from our next-door neighbor.
>
>

My boys are like that. They will have the Halloween candy sitting there for
months. They just eat a piece here and there. Came home from Trick or
Treating and set the candy on the kitchen table and made themselves a sandwich.
They love to go Trick or Treating but the candy is no big deal because they can
have it whenever they want.
Pam G


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Gary & Lisa Williams

Just a few comments on the Halloween candy...I have always just let the kids
have the candy when and how they want. They love to dump it all out and
line up the stuff in their own little catagories. They eat a few pieces
while they are doing this but are more interested in getting it all sorted.
Then they have an elaborate system of swapping items between the two of
them, etc. Well, this year, we got to do this with my sister and her 2 1/2
year old. He thought this was really something! He went to these houses
and they threw candy in a bag for him. It really must be a pretty awesome
thing to experience this for the first time as a little kid! <bg> But when
we got back to the house, his mom swooped in and took the bag and said he
couldn't have that until the next day because she didn't want him to eat the
candy in the late evening. How frustrating!! He just got all these
interesting, colorful little packages all thrown together in a bag and now
he can't LOOK at it?! So, I told her to let him look at the stuff and show
her what he got, etc. She reluctantly let him and guess what? He looked it
all over...showed everybody...ate HALF of a little candy bar and was done.
My sister is a very controlling person and she was quite amazed that he
didn't eat everything. I explained to her that he didn't WANT to eat
everything...he just wanted to see it!
Why are some moms so controlling? I find it sooo frustrating. With my
sister, I could just butt in <bg> but with others, I just watch in dismay.
Sorry this got so long, Lisa


In a message dated 11/1/03 8:14:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aceto3@... writes:

> One for the "they'll never eat anything but junk" people -- yesterday
> evening after we got back from trick or treating and I walked past my 5
y.o.
> sitting with her basket of candy at the table and noticed that one of the
first
> things she had eaten was the apple she got from our next-door neighbor.

> My boys are like that. They will have the Halloween candy sitting there
for
months. They just eat a piece here and there. Came home from Trick or
Treating and set the candy on the kitchen table and made themselves a
sandwich.
They love to go Trick or Treating but the candy is no big deal because they
can
have it whenever they want.
Pam G

Kris

I wanted to avoid Halloween with Jonathan this year, only because of his
apparent reaction to some artificial colors. However, I was ready to grin
and bear it if he wanted to trick-or-treat, he announced that he hates
Halloween and wanted nothing to do with it (the costumes scare him).

We got him a few of his favorite foods to celebrate, one of them being a bag
of Milano cookies. When he asked about them I brought him two, he took one
and said, "No thanks" to the second. At that age I would have taken as much
as I could get, even braved the scary masks to get candy. I was looking at
him wondering how it must feel to be so relaxed about food, it must feel
good.

Kris

-----Original Message-----
From: Genant2@... [mailto:Genant2@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Halloween candy

In a message dated 11/1/03 8:14:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aceto3@... writes:

> One for the "they'll never eat anything but junk" people -- yesterday
> evening after we got back from trick or treating and I walked past my 5
y.o.
> sitting with her basket of candy at the table and noticed that one of the
first
> things she had eaten was the apple she got from our next-door neighbor.
>
>

My boys are like that. They will have the Halloween candy sitting there for
months. They just eat a piece here and there. Came home from Trick or
Treating and set the candy on the kitchen table and made themselves a
sandwich.
They love to go Trick or Treating but the candy is no big deal because they
can
have it whenever they want.
Pam G

kayb85

My boys were ready to stop half way through trick or treating, my
daughter wasn't. So we headed in the direction of home, with her
stopping at the houses and them just standing there waiting for her
to go on. At first, I let them just stand there and would take their
pumpkins up to the houses for them, thinking that even if they were
to tired to climb the stairs to the porches, they would appreciate
still getting the candy. But my 6 year old kept saying, "Mommy, i
don't WANT any more candy! I have enough!" I NEVER would have said
that I had enough Halloween candy when I was little. :)

Sheila

--- In [email protected], "Kris" <louisa@b...>
wrote:
> I wanted to avoid Halloween with Jonathan this year, only because
of his
> apparent reaction to some artificial colors. However, I was ready
to grin
> and bear it if he wanted to trick-or-treat, he announced that he
hates
> Halloween and wanted nothing to do with it (the costumes scare him).
>
> We got him a few of his favorite foods to celebrate, one of them
being a bag
> of Milano cookies. When he asked about them I brought him two, he
took one
> and said, "No thanks" to the second. At that age I would have
taken as much
> as I could get, even braved the scary masks to get candy. I was
looking at
> him wondering how it must feel to be so relaxed about food, it must
feel
> good.
>
> Kris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Genant2@a... [mailto:Genant2@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 5:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Halloween candy
>
> In a message dated 11/1/03 8:14:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> aceto3@v... writes:
>
> > One for the "they'll never eat anything but junk" people --
yesterday
> > evening after we got back from trick or treating and I walked
past my 5
> y.o.
> > sitting with her basket of candy at the table and noticed that
one of the
> first
> > things she had eaten was the apple she got from our next-door
neighbor.
> >
> >
>
> My boys are like that. They will have the Halloween candy sitting
there for
> months. They just eat a piece here and there. Came home from
Trick or
> Treating and set the candy on the kitchen table and made themselves
a
> sandwich.
> They love to go Trick or Treating but the candy is no big deal
because they
> can
> have it whenever they want.
> Pam G

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In a message dated 11-2-2003 10:25:12 AM Mountain Standard Time,
louisa@... writes:
At that age I would have taken as much as I could get, even braved the scary
masks to get candy. I was looking at him wondering how it must feel to be so
relaxed about food, it must feel good.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
I agree! It was really amazing to see play out in my kids, too. It was COLD
and snowy here and the kids didn't do much trick or treating (4 blocks). I
would have been sorely disappointed in the candy haul, but they were just
grateful for the *free* candy! They went out with their *best bud* and his
brother, so mom got to stay inside and hang out with the grownups (rare treat!). The
whole evening's celebrations were far more important than the amount of candy
they received.
I was horribly broke this past week and had no money for treats; to pacify
them, I told them they could eat all the candy they wanted on Halloween ... They
really liked the chips and salsa, ate chili with crackers and cheese and, oh
yeah, about three small candybars each <bg> What a great night for
breakthroughs!

diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage
to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it's me.” --Anon.


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nellebelle

I offered to take mine to the store and just buy them a bunch of candy, but they wanted to dress up and go trick or treat in our neighborhood. I am "costume impaired". Jackie decided to be a telletubbie by wearing her telletubbie pajamas with a layer of clothes underneath and a pillow to make her tummie fat. Lisa couldn't decide. I was racking my brains trying to think what we had laying around that could become a costume. I remembered that we have some reflective vests, so I suggested she wear that and carry a stop flag (easily made with computer and an old broom handle) and practically everybody recognized her as a school crossing guard. Hmm.

They are eating the candy throughout the day but are eating plenty of other stuff too. Yesterday the neighbor girl was over all day. When her mom called to have her come home, she (the mom) told me that her 3 kids put all their candy together in one bowl, decided how long they wanted the candy to last, then figured out how many pieces that could each have per day. After Allison went home, Jackie told me that she had said they are only allowed to eat 2 pieces of candy per day. I told Jackie what the mom had told me, saying that she had said it was the kid's idea to do that. Jackie said that wasn't how Allison made it sound.

I was thinking about the 2 piece rule this morning when Jackie opened a pack of starbursts, but they weren't the flavor she likes. I said just toss those back in the bowl and open another package. Yesterday she'd taken a bite of a candy and didn't like it. I said throw it away and grab something else. I'm glad she didn't have to eat a flavor she didn't like just because it was part of her daily allotment.

Mary Ellen

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In a message dated 11/2/2003 8:25:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
zenmomma@... writes:
The next day we were sitting with her candy (we like to just look at
it sometimes to marvel in its glory ;-))
******************************************
Isn't Halloween Grand!?? I love it. I love watching the kids run around the
house, each with their enormous bag, trading, swapping, counting, going from
room to room, comparing who's still got the most, who's gobbling theirs down,
who's making theirs last the longest...

Nancy B. in WV


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nellebelle

We got a GODISNOWHERE calling card. You can read it two different ways.
Mary Ellen

----- Original Message ----- WHY someone would
want to give a kid a "God Loves You" tract on Halloween.

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Stepheny Cappel

I watched a study once about the effects of limiting children in their diet. It was done with pre-schoolers and quite interesting. All kinds of food was put out on the table and the adult left the room leaving the children to choose for themselves. The children that were limited crammed their mouths with all the sweets and the other children that had no limits ate very little actually and then went on to play. I really had to laugh at those sweet little darlings stuffing all they could into their mouths while they had the chance. Stepheny


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joylyn

This is from Scientific America, with Alan Alda. It's one of my
favorite programs. You can read the transcript here...

http://www.pbs.org/saf/1110/resources/transcript.htm

Joylyn

Stepheny Cappel wrote:

> I watched a study once about the effects of limiting children in their
> diet. It was done with pre-schoolers and quite interesting. All
> kinds of food was put out on the table and the adult left the room
> leaving the children to choose for themselves. The children that were
> limited crammed their mouths with all the sweets and the other
> children that had no limits ate very little actually and then went on
> to play. I really had to laugh at those sweet little darlings
> stuffing all they could into their mouths while they had the chance.
> Stepheny
>
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joylyn

That's interesting. I read it first as god is no where. Then I re-read
it as god is now here. hmmm

Joylyn

nellebelle wrote:

> We got a GODISNOWHERE calling card. You can read it two different ways.
> Mary Ellen
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Stepheny Cappel

Thanks Joylyn I enjoyed reading that. Stepheny
dy


This is from Scientific America, with Alan Alda. It's one of my
favorite programs. You can read the transcript here...

http://www.pbs.org/saf/1110/resources/transcript.htm

Joylyn



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Stepheny Cappel

Me too. First it was God is no where. I had to look hard for the now here. Strange. Stepheny

That's interesting. I read it first as god is no where. Then I re-read
it as god is now here. hmmm

Joylyn

nellebelle wrote:

> We got a GODISNOWHERE calling card. You can read it two different ways.
> Mary Ellen
>


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zenmomma2kids

>> We got a GODISNOWHERE calling card. You can read it two different
ways.>>

Ooohh...I should have given out "Get out of hell free" cards. Ah,
next year. :o)

Life is good.
~Mary

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In a message dated 11/2/03 07:42:45 PM Central Standard Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:
Isn't Halloween Grand!?? I love it. I love watching the kids run around the
house, each with their enormous bag, trading, swapping, counting, going from
room to room, comparing who's still got the most, who's gobbling theirs down,
who's making theirs last the longest...

Nancy B. in WV
############

I had things to do all day and I couldn't take the kids with me. (well I
could have, but they would have been bored to tears) They packed bags and games
and went off to work with Darin. As I was walking out I realized I only had a
few dollars to hand out for snack and drink runs so I grabbed a bag of candy off
the coffee table and took it out to the car. As I handed it to Moly I had a
momentary thought that maybe this might not be a good idea because one bag
would be eaten out of and the kids might fight doing the "this is my bag" thing.
But I put that thought out of my head because things have been going so good
and why should I think something negative? (does anyone else think my kids are
further on this path than me? <g>) I went on with my day. This evening I asked
Darin how his day went with the kids at work with him and specifically asked
about the candy. He told me that they both came to him about three and asked
for the keys to the car and that they came back with just a few pieces each and
a pocket full each to give to the "guys" who work for Darin. No mention that
Mom only brought one bag or that it was Moly's bag or Jack's bag. If it were me
in that situation I would have carried the bag in with me, never let anyone
else touch it, never shared especially with adults, and probably would have
eaten as much as I could before it was taken from me.
~Nancy


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In a message dated 11/2/03 08:07:29 PM Central Standard Time,
nellebelle@... writes:
We got a GODISNOWHERE calling card. You can read it two different ways.
Mary Ellen
@@@@@@@

We got that one. Moly asked if this was from an atheist <g> Darin told her
yes. <vbg> Jack got a No Jesus No peace, Know Jesus Know peace one.
~Nancy


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