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We're coming up on November, and the extended DVD of The Two Towers will be
out. I was over at Amazon seeing what the gift pack will have (a statue of
Gollum crouching; I don't want him looking at me when I'm asleep, so I'll pass),
and I skimmed the reviews. Check this statement out!


-=-There are now two kinds of people in the world---those who read the books
first, and those who watched the movie first. If I ever have kids, they're
reading the books first, that's for darn sure. ---=-


That's for darn sure!?
Someone without kids is going to withhold movies from a kid until said kid
can read all of Tolkien?! I've only known one human in person who could read
Tolkien before she could drive a car.

People fantasize the darndest child-rearing things!

Sandra

Tia Leschke

>
>
>-=-There are now two kinds of people in the world---those who read the books
>first, and those who watched the movie first. If I ever have kids, they're
>reading the books first, that's for darn sure. ---=-

I much prefer reading the book first, because I like to have made my own
pictures in my mind before seeing the movie. I also tried to read books to
the kids before they saw the movie for the same reason, but I never made a
big deal out of it. I certainly didn't forbid it.



>That's for darn sure!?
>Someone without kids is going to withhold movies from a kid until said kid
>can read all of Tolkien?! I've only known one human in person who could read
>Tolkien before she could drive a car.

Actually, my older son, the one who was in the middle reading group in
grade two, read The Hobbit a few months after I took him out of school. He
wasn't 8 yet. (And he still doesn't have his driver's license at 25.) Come
to think of it, *I* read those books when I was about 14, so you know two
more. <g>

I don't think I've told Noah's story here. He had really poor fine motor
control. He had a choice that year (grade 2). He could take his time and
really make his work neat . . . and get in trouble for not finishing on
time, or he could get it finished on time . . . and watch the teacher throw
it into the wastebasket for being messy. I took him out of school at
Christmas. At the time he never read for pleasure, only if it was required.
They had watched the video of Charlotte's Web that last day at school.
After school I handed him the book, thinking he might enjoy the original
illustrations. He read almost the whole book that afternoon and evening.
The evening part was at a noisy party we went to. This is the kid who
couldn't concentrate in class. He read another couple of books at that
level, then read The Hobbit and started Fellowship. His teacher had *no
idea* that he could read that well because he couldn't handle the written,
prove-you-read-it, work.

I came as close as I could to unschooling him with my unsupportive ex
breathing down my back until the beginning of grade 4. At that point I was
8 months pregnant, and the ex threatened me with court if I didn't put him
back in school. I couldn't see how I was going to manage a court case with
a nursing infant, and Noah didn't want me to fight it anymore, so I put him
in school. After a year he went to live with the ex. I often wonder how he
would have turned out if he hadn't gone back to school. In my opinion he
was beginning to thrive at home. As it is, he lives in a tent in the bush
and dumpster-dives for a "living". He got as far as grade 9 before dropping
out.
Tia

Betsy

**-=-There are now two kinds of people in the world---those who read the
books
first, and those who watched the movie first. If I ever have kids, they're
reading the books first, that's for darn sure. ---=-


That's for darn sure!?
Someone without kids is going to withhold movies from a kid until said kid
can read all of Tolkien?! I've only known one human in person who could
read
Tolkien before she could drive a car. **


Hi, Sandra --

Parents that I know that are insisting on "books before movie" are
reading the Tolkien books to their kids. But still it is quite controlling.

(I personally think that I want to read Master and Commander before I
see the Russell Crowe movie, but I reserve the right to change my mind
if I suddenly find a babysitter.)

My parents read the 4 Tolkien books to me when I was nineish. I haven't
read the books to my son, but we enjoyed the movies a lot (watching them
at home because we are easilly scared.) My son has even decided that
he's old enough to watch the third movie in the theater.

We are counting the days until Return of the King comes out in December.
(Or will be -- we've been counting down the days until Halloween. It's
today!!!)

Oh, he watched the Harry Potter #1 movie before I read him any of the
books, and he still wanted all the books read to him 4 or 5 times. I
don't think the movie version affected his enjoyment of the books at
all, um, unless it increased his enjoyment.

Betsy

Shyrley

SandraDodd@... wrote:

>We're coming up on November, and the extended DVD of The Two Towers will be
>out. I was over at Amazon seeing what the gift pack will have (a statue of
>Gollum crouching; I don't want him looking at me when I'm asleep, so I'll pass),
>and I skimmed the reviews. Check this statement out!
>
>
>-=-There are now two kinds of people in the world---those who read the books
>first, and those who watched the movie first. If I ever have kids, they're
>reading the books first, that's for darn sure. ---=-
>
>
>That's for darn sure!?
>Someone without kids is going to withhold movies from a kid until said kid
>can read all of Tolkien?! I've only known one human in person who could read
>Tolkien before she could drive a car.
>
>People fantasize the darndest child-rearing things!
>
>Sandra
>
>
You'd best add to that :-)
I read The Lord of the Rings at 13. Skived off school for 2 days to
finish it. Didn't learn to drive till I was 23. Heather read LoTR at
7-9. She can't drive either and hates cars.
:-p

Shyrley

pam sorooshian

On Oct 31, 2003, at 9:41 AM, Betsy wrote:

> (I personally think that I want to read Master and Commander before I
> see the Russell Crowe movie, but I reserve the right to change my mind
> if I suddenly find a babysitter.)

We went and saw Sea Biscuit -- I didn't think I'd want to read that
whole book, didn't interest me, but I really liked the movie a lot.
Still not interested in the book.

-pam
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In a message dated 10/31/03 10:51:31 AM, leschke@... writes:

<< Come
to think of it, *I* read those books when I was about 14, so you know two
more. <g>
>>

I've read of people who read it younger, but in person I only knew Laurie
McPherson who read it at nine.


<< His teacher had *no
idea* that he could read that well because he couldn't handle the written,
prove-you-read-it, work. >>

Ha. Cool story!

<<After a year he went to live with the ex. I often wonder how he
would have turned out if he hadn't gone back to school. In my opinion he
was beginning to thrive at home. As it is, he lives in a tent in the bush
and dumpster-dives for a "living". >>

Not as cool a story. {{{{Tia}}}}, you have had some very bad experiences.
Sorry.

Sandra

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In a message dated 10/31/03 11:47:48 AM, ecsamhill@... writes:

<< I
don't think the movie version affected his enjoyment of the books at
all, um, unless it increased his enjoyment. >>

Both Harry Potter and LOTR are careful on the visuals, and so for me it makes
the books easier to read.

I had pictures in my head from Lord of the Rings as a teen, but they were
very vague pictures. Then there were the Hildebrandt calendars and posters. That
helped some. But I like Peter Jackson's artistic vision. I just think he
should have left Faramir as honorable and intelligent as he was in the book.
Still, he LOOKED marvelous! <bwg>

Harry Potter reads much more merrily for me now with the actors' faces and
voices in my head.

Sandra

Fetteroll

on 10/31/03 1:47 PM, pam sorooshian at pamsoroosh@... wrote:

> Still not interested in the book.

Carl's in the middle of it and says it's the best book he's ever read (well
actually listened to.)

Kat's on the first chapter and has been singing it's praises.

Joyce

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In a message dated 10/31/2003 12:28:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
Someone without kids is going to withhold movies from a kid until said kid
can read all of Tolkien?! I've only known one human in person who could read
Tolkien before she could drive a car.
******************************
I never have. I tried reading the Hobbit over and over again through Jr.
High and High School, but could never get into it, and I read a lot.

Nancy B. in WV


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zenmomma2kids

>>As it is, he lives in a tent in the bush and dumpster-dives for
a "living". >>

Is he happy? Just curious.

Life is good.
~Mary

Tia Leschke

> >>As it is, he lives in a tent in the bush and dumpster-dives for
>a "living". >>
>
>Is he happy? Just curious.

Sometimes it seems like he is, but most of the time, no. He has
unfortunately inherited a tendency toward paranoia and/or
obsessive/compulsive from his dad. In fact that's why he isn't speaking to
me right now. He was into a really paranoid spell, and I wasn't buying into
it. I didn't say that what he thought was happening wasn't. I just didn't
get all worked up about it as though it was. His dad did. So right now
they're feeding each other's paranoia . . . sigh.
Tia

zenmomma2kids

>>Sometimes it seems like he is, but most of the time, no. He has
unfortunately inherited a tendency toward paranoia and/or
obsessive/compulsive from his dad. In fact that's why he isn't
speaking to me right now.>>

{{{{{{{{{{{{{Tia}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Sorry it's so hard sometimes. My family has its share of struggles
with these types of mental issues as well.

Life is good, but hard sometimes.
~Mary