The parody of CBS article
Ren
"Hope this is OK to forward this, there was a link from another homeschool
board...pretty funny!!!"
I'm sorry...it COULD have been funny, but it was obviously making fun of video gaming and such. Talks about a religious symbol in the window..which could mean anything, hell, it could have been a buddha right?
Nah, me thinks it was written by a conservative Christian again. I think someone should take a crack at an unschooling version. :)
Ren
board...pretty funny!!!"
I'm sorry...it COULD have been funny, but it was obviously making fun of video gaming and such. Talks about a religious symbol in the window..which could mean anything, hell, it could have been a buddha right?
Nah, me thinks it was written by a conservative Christian again. I think someone should take a crack at an unschooling version. :)
Ren
The Scanlons
> I'm sorry...it COULD have been funny, but it was obviously making fun of video gaming and such.Ren, I think it was making fun of the commonly touted idea that children *must* have video games in order to develop their hand-eye coordination. That these children have none indicates that their parents are short-changing (abusing!) them. (all for the sake of the parody, of course)
Sandy
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Fetteroll
on 10/17/03 4:34 AM, The Scanlons at scanlon36@... wrote:
coordination, I've never heard anyone say kids must have video games for
hand-eye coordination. Where have you heard that said?
Joyce
> Ren, I think it was making fun of the commonly touted idea that childrenThough I've certainly heard it said that video games are good for hand-eye
> *must* have video games in order to develop their hand-eye coordination.
coordination, I've never heard anyone say kids must have video games for
hand-eye coordination. Where have you heard that said?
Joyce
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In a message dated 10/17/03 3:12:06 AM, scanlon36@... writes:
<< the commonly touted idea that children *must* have video games in order to
develop their hand-eye coordination. >>
I've never heard that statement once, so I don't think it's commonly touted.
Sandra
<< the commonly touted idea that children *must* have video games in order to
develop their hand-eye coordination. >>
I've never heard that statement once, so I don't think it's commonly touted.
Sandra
plumaria_1
<<< the commonly touted idea that children *must* have video games in
order to
develop their hand-eye coordination. >>
I've never heard that statement once, so I don't think it's commonly
touted.
Sandra>>>
I have. From a fad-ish perspective, one *must* have this thing or that
to accomplish some skill or task or to learn something.
When not having all of the bells and whistles and gismos that
mainstream schoolish fads say the kids should have, I have been looked
at with suspicion. I'm not sure what it is people suspect...that by
not mindfully following the trends, I protect my children from the
"real world? Maybe they think my family just weird. Maybe the
homeschooling critics can't fathom a child having interests other than
what is the latest rage.
That is how I understood the poking at the absence of video games, and
the presence of books in the house. (implying that it isn't trendy for
kids in general to willingly read books for learning or pleasure, etc.)
order to
develop their hand-eye coordination. >>
I've never heard that statement once, so I don't think it's commonly
touted.
Sandra>>>
I have. From a fad-ish perspective, one *must* have this thing or that
to accomplish some skill or task or to learn something.
When not having all of the bells and whistles and gismos that
mainstream schoolish fads say the kids should have, I have been looked
at with suspicion. I'm not sure what it is people suspect...that by
not mindfully following the trends, I protect my children from the
"real world? Maybe they think my family just weird. Maybe the
homeschooling critics can't fathom a child having interests other than
what is the latest rage.
That is how I understood the poking at the absence of video games, and
the presence of books in the house. (implying that it isn't trendy for
kids in general to willingly read books for learning or pleasure, etc.)
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In a message dated 10/17/03 10:22:17 AM, plumaria_1@... writes:
<< <<< the commonly touted idea that children *must* have video games in
order to
develop their hand-eye coordination. >>
I've never heard that statement once, so I don't think it's commonly
touted. >>
I didn't read the parody.
My point is that nobody has EVER said it's worth $250 for a game system and a
game for eye-hand co-ordination.
The eye-hand coordination is just the only defense for video gaming that some
unimaginative people can come up with. Because someone will say "it's good
for eye-hand coordination, that's not the same as saying it's commonly
recommended that people need to get systems for eye-hand coordination.
IN ANY CASE, here's my collection of people's writings and links on video
gaming and learning:
http://sandradodd.com/games/page
Sandra
<< <<< the commonly touted idea that children *must* have video games in
order to
develop their hand-eye coordination. >>
I've never heard that statement once, so I don't think it's commonly
touted. >>
I didn't read the parody.
My point is that nobody has EVER said it's worth $250 for a game system and a
game for eye-hand co-ordination.
The eye-hand coordination is just the only defense for video gaming that some
unimaginative people can come up with. Because someone will say "it's good
for eye-hand coordination, that's not the same as saying it's commonly
recommended that people need to get systems for eye-hand coordination.
IN ANY CASE, here's my collection of people's writings and links on video
gaming and learning:
http://sandradodd.com/games/page
Sandra
[email protected]
If it's commonly touted that families are either book people or
tv/technology/games people, and cannot be both, then I sure didn't realize it.
Our family (and the majority of folks we seem to know) live and learn
on the Power of Story continuum, in which libraries, literature, myth,
entertainment, allegory, satire, fantasy, music, theatre and games, puzzles, paradox
and the search for truth, beauty and the Meaning of Life all are intertwined.
Big readers, oh yes, but hardly Luddites. The whole house including
the kitchen is a liobrary with books EVERYWHERE -- except for the pianos and
big-screen tv and jazz cds and computers and movie closet and chess sets and
sewing machine and Scrabble and Monopoly boards and jewel cases full of computer
video games and stacks of newspapers and magazines (doubt all our Power of
Story clutter would pass muster on a CPS inspection, which is a very good reason
to keep them out imo!) JJ
plumaria_1@... writes:
tv/technology/games people, and cannot be both, then I sure didn't realize it.
Our family (and the majority of folks we seem to know) live and learn
on the Power of Story continuum, in which libraries, literature, myth,
entertainment, allegory, satire, fantasy, music, theatre and games, puzzles, paradox
and the search for truth, beauty and the Meaning of Life all are intertwined.
Big readers, oh yes, but hardly Luddites. The whole house including
the kitchen is a liobrary with books EVERYWHERE -- except for the pianos and
big-screen tv and jazz cds and computers and movie closet and chess sets and
sewing machine and Scrabble and Monopoly boards and jewel cases full of computer
video games and stacks of newspapers and magazines (doubt all our Power of
Story clutter would pass muster on a CPS inspection, which is a very good reason
to keep them out imo!) JJ
plumaria_1@... writes:
> Maybe they think my family just weird. Maybe the[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> homeschooling critics can't fathom a child having interests other than
> what is the latest rage.
>
> That is how I understood the poking at the absence of video games, and
> the presence of books in the house. (implying that it isn't trendy for
> kids in general to willingly read books for learning or pleasure, etc.)
>
The Scanlons
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Sandra said:
"My point is that nobody has EVER said it's worth $250 for a game system and
a game for eye-hand co-ordination."
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sandra, perhaps your ears have never heard that sentiment (and many many
video games cost considerably less than $250). My ears *have* heard advice
and recommendations like that. In my world, it is pretty common to hear
things like that.
If a family does not have video games, there could be many reasons. There
are a couple that seem to be the most popular, but you can be sure that
other families have different reasons that are completely valid *for their
families*.
The parody web site pretty much took many of the aspects of mainstream
parenting and satirized them. There were several jokes that (mostly) only
homeschoolers would 'get' because homeschoolers, even school-at-homers, tend
to think differently than the rest of the world. The parody also seized on
several of the myths surrounding homeschooling and presented them as reality
and abuse. Even many of the realities of a homeschooling family can be
twisted to appear as abusive and/or neglectful.
I didn't see the parody as slamming gaming and gamers...it was just another
instance of how this particular family differs from the average American
family. The slam was on reporters who twist stories and details in order to
make their stories more interesting.
Sandy
ps...I haven't read your collection, so I'm not going to comment on it.
Sandra said:
"My point is that nobody has EVER said it's worth $250 for a game system and
a game for eye-hand co-ordination."
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sandra, perhaps your ears have never heard that sentiment (and many many
video games cost considerably less than $250). My ears *have* heard advice
and recommendations like that. In my world, it is pretty common to hear
things like that.
If a family does not have video games, there could be many reasons. There
are a couple that seem to be the most popular, but you can be sure that
other families have different reasons that are completely valid *for their
families*.
The parody web site pretty much took many of the aspects of mainstream
parenting and satirized them. There were several jokes that (mostly) only
homeschoolers would 'get' because homeschoolers, even school-at-homers, tend
to think differently than the rest of the world. The parody also seized on
several of the myths surrounding homeschooling and presented them as reality
and abuse. Even many of the realities of a homeschooling family can be
twisted to appear as abusive and/or neglectful.
I didn't see the parody as slamming gaming and gamers...it was just another
instance of how this particular family differs from the average American
family. The slam was on reporters who twist stories and details in order to
make their stories more interesting.
Sandy
ps...I haven't read your collection, so I'm not going to comment on it.