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In a message dated 10/16/03 10:23:06 AM Central Daylight Time,
ddzimlew@... writes:
CBS linked child abuse to homeschooling because they didn't have the
balls to link it to fundamentalist freaks.

Deb
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This is the one we should all sign and send to CBS.
~Nancy


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In a message dated 10/16/03 11:22:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I've wondered for years when the poo would hit the fan. The first time I
> saw a copy of Home School Digest
> I wondered how/ why every homeschooler in the world wasn't being
> investigated, with all that "train up a child" crap and their happy
> advertisements for "THE ROD - the ideal tool for child training."
>
> Religious freedom includes the freedom to hit kids. Fundamentalist folks
> are homeschooling to keep their kids away from secular influences. They
> *are* homeschooling to isolate their kids and they are "disciplining"
> their kids and they do keep them away from doctors because they're afraid
> of the questions. It's bad.
>

This is exactly what you said: fundamentalist freaks. These are not
Christians. THE ROD???? What the heck is that? Well, I am one of those Christian
freaks that DOESN'T believe "the rod" means beat your kids. I had one friend
tell me it was her God-given right to spank her children. If anyone can please
show me that in the Bible??? Everything in the Bible is metaphorical, and the
rod and the sheep are referred to metaphorically. Anyone ever read of a
sheep being beaten by the shepherd? Not me. And the other thing-did Jesus stay
away from secular people and situations? NO. How do you share the gospel if
you only stick to "your kind"? This isn't the way those who truly love and
serve God treat their children, homeschooling or not. This is the way sicko's
treat their children.

Carol


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In a message dated 10/16/03 3:35:22 PM, Halo5964@... writes:

<< And the other thing-did Jesus stay
away from secular people and situations? NO. How do you share the gospel if
you only stick to "your kind"? >>

I grew up Baptist.
They told us "the Bible never contradicts itself."

They lied.

There are verses that say not to mix with other people.
There are verses that say go out and do good and baptize.

Churches pick the ones they like best and then say "the Bible never
contradicts itself."

Homeschooling is sure a great thing, though, for those who have chosen not to
yoke them selves to unbelievers.

Ah... went to find that Bible reference (it's II Corinthians 6:14)
and found a discussion of the very thing, by a Nazarene minister.

http://pausetoponder.org/separate.htm

Sandra


Sandra

Deborah Lewis

***THE ROD???? What the heck is that? ***

This is from the ad in the back of Home School Digest magazine.
If you've never seen it, count yourself lucky and stop reading now.

_________________

Proverbs 23:13-14 Proverbs 22:15
(The means prescribed by God)

"THE ROD"

The ideal tool for child training

(here, a picture of the weapon
specifically designed to use
against children)
____________________

Flexible nylon rod
Cushioned vinyl grip
Balanced, easy to use
Safety tip
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Spoons are for cooking
Belts are for holding up pants
Hands are for loving
(smiley face here) RODS are for chastening

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Deb L

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You are right, I find contradictions all over the place. I find it difficult
to find a church for that reason-you can find scriptures to support any cause
you are trying to support if you take the time to look and have the ability
to twist things out of context. So then what is a person to do? It's
heartwrenching if you truly want to follow God and do the "right" thing. I just try
to focus on the two main things Jesus said-"Love the Lord God with all your
heart" and "love one another as you do yourselves". But then you hear other
Christians that say if you ignore the rest of the Bible you are sinning. It is
the part of my life I have the most dilemma in dealing with.

Carol


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P.S. I do agree with this Nazarene minister, and he explained it very well.
However, that really only addresses one issue I internally struggle with, and
I have been in one homeschool group with I think would dispute that theory.
I was told not to shop at Walmart (?), go to Disney (I live in Central
Florida), or let my children play with children whose parents don't go to church
regularly. My daughter Melody is mentally challenged, and has never been accepted
in a church. She was treated much better by peers who haven't been to church
than the ones in the church. I don't think you can judge a person by whether
or not they go to church. I don't think it defines them, and I certainly hope
it does not define me.

Carol

Thanks for sharing that, Sandra!


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