stickers (was Re: literature as religion)
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In a message dated 9/25/03 11:43:08 AM, jrossedd@... writes:
<< Now I'm dying to know what pulling stickers
and getting goatheads could possibly mean. (Is it like public mastication??)
< >>
People can chew in public.
There's a sticker in New Mexico that grows where the dirt has been disturbed,
so around playgrounds and along sidewalks they come up from a single sticker,
which is a four-pointed thing that sits on three points and holds one up for
you to step on, no matter how it falls. In the Middle Ages such things were
manufactured to stop mounted attacks, and they were called caltrops. But these
are nature's little caltrops, just about the size of the end of your little
finger.
One seed can grow a plant that has hundreds of the seeds and if you pick them
early it's easy, but if you wait, you need gloves and a tool. But still,
pulling it when it's green will prevent MANY stickers from going home in kids'
shoes to stay in carpets (or worse, get a running barefoot or thong-footed kid
a bloody puncture).
So if you come to New Mexico, as what goat heads look like so you won't walk
in them.
I checked google.
Here's a photo of a non-native missionary and a little blurb about "Goat's
Head" stickers. They're wrong about that two prong thing. Three down one up.
They're right about it penetrating a tennis shoe.
The two little flat round things on either side of his shovel are goat head
plants. Small ones. If that yard got some water, and one was growing where
he's standing, it could get big enough to fill up most of the ground in the
photo, three feet from him in every direction.
And when you dig them up you have to put them in the trash, because just
throwing them aside won't keep the stickers from still developing. Once they're
formed there's nothing left but for them to dry, but when they're growing they
grow three in a bunch, and they're pudgy and light green, a little like the
eyes on a potato, but all the same shape.
It's the only thing I found on the internet. I should take some goat head
pictures and make my own page next year. "The life cycle of an exotic desert
sticker."
Sandra
<< Now I'm dying to know what pulling stickers
and getting goatheads could possibly mean. (Is it like public mastication??)
< >>
People can chew in public.
There's a sticker in New Mexico that grows where the dirt has been disturbed,
so around playgrounds and along sidewalks they come up from a single sticker,
which is a four-pointed thing that sits on three points and holds one up for
you to step on, no matter how it falls. In the Middle Ages such things were
manufactured to stop mounted attacks, and they were called caltrops. But these
are nature's little caltrops, just about the size of the end of your little
finger.
One seed can grow a plant that has hundreds of the seeds and if you pick them
early it's easy, but if you wait, you need gloves and a tool. But still,
pulling it when it's green will prevent MANY stickers from going home in kids'
shoes to stay in carpets (or worse, get a running barefoot or thong-footed kid
a bloody puncture).
So if you come to New Mexico, as what goat heads look like so you won't walk
in them.
I checked google.
Here's a photo of a non-native missionary and a little blurb about "Goat's
Head" stickers. They're wrong about that two prong thing. Three down one up.
They're right about it penetrating a tennis shoe.
The two little flat round things on either side of his shovel are goat head
plants. Small ones. If that yard got some water, and one was growing where
he's standing, it could get big enough to fill up most of the ground in the
photo, three feet from him in every direction.
And when you dig them up you have to put them in the trash, because just
throwing them aside won't keep the stickers from still developing. Once they're
formed there's nothing left but for them to dry, but when they're growing they
grow three in a bunch, and they're pudgy and light green, a little like the
eyes on a potato, but all the same shape.
It's the only thing I found on the internet. I should take some goat head
pictures and make my own page next year. "The life cycle of an exotic desert
sticker."
Sandra
Liz in AZ
I think the "official" common name is "puncture weed". I found a
photo of the plant (http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?
enlarge=1335+3153+0669+0125 or http://tinyurl.com/oo4j), but it
doesn't show the terrible, horrible, no-good, very-bad stickers.
<Mike Myers voice>Evil - like the fruits of the devil.</Mike Myers
voice>
photo of the plant (http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?
enlarge=1335+3153+0669+0125 or http://tinyurl.com/oo4j), but it
doesn't show the terrible, horrible, no-good, very-bad stickers.
<Mike Myers voice>Evil - like the fruits of the devil.</Mike Myers
voice>
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In a message dated 9/25/03 1:02:59 PM, eerrhhaz@... writes:
<< I think the "official" common name is "puncture weed". I found a
photo of the plant (http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?
enlarge=1335+3153+0669+0125 or http://tinyurl.com/oo4j), but it
doesn't show the terrible, horrible, no-good, very-bad stickers. >>
THAT IS IT!
Tribulus terrestris; Puncture Weed Or Land Caltrop
AHA!
The stickers show, but they're against the rocks so it's hard to see them.
Each yellow flower makes one set of stickers.
That photo is showing about 1/3 of that plant, and that's not a very healthy
plant. It's all growing in one direction. So picture that WAY healthier
(like living at the edge of a city park that gets the sprinklers regularly) and
those are what I pull up. Sometimes it only takes three or four plants to fill
up a trash can.
I'm so glad you found that! I'm going to read all about it now. Those
stickers tormented me badly when I was seven years old, and I vowed to get them
back.
Nothing eats them. If they get a tiny clear sandy place and some water,
they're good to go. Nothing's fastened to the ground but that one original stem.
The rest lies flat out everywhere waiting for animals or people to walk on it
and plant it in other places and on carpets everywhere.
Sandra
<< I think the "official" common name is "puncture weed". I found a
photo of the plant (http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?
enlarge=1335+3153+0669+0125 or http://tinyurl.com/oo4j), but it
doesn't show the terrible, horrible, no-good, very-bad stickers. >>
THAT IS IT!
Tribulus terrestris; Puncture Weed Or Land Caltrop
AHA!
The stickers show, but they're against the rocks so it's hard to see them.
Each yellow flower makes one set of stickers.
That photo is showing about 1/3 of that plant, and that's not a very healthy
plant. It's all growing in one direction. So picture that WAY healthier
(like living at the edge of a city park that gets the sprinklers regularly) and
those are what I pull up. Sometimes it only takes three or four plants to fill
up a trash can.
I'm so glad you found that! I'm going to read all about it now. Those
stickers tormented me badly when I was seven years old, and I vowed to get them
back.
Nothing eats them. If they get a tiny clear sandy place and some water,
they're good to go. Nothing's fastened to the ground but that one original stem.
The rest lies flat out everywhere waiting for animals or people to walk on it
and plant it in other places and on carpets everywhere.
Sandra
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In a message dated 9/25/03 02:18:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
THAT IS IT!
Tribulus terrestris; Puncture Weed Or Land Caltrop
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
We have those here too! Nasty little buggers. We also have cockle burrs,
round/oval shaped with lots of velcro like hooks. Little itty bitty triangle
shaped, flat sticker things, we call sticktites, and these things some call devils
claws and others call goats heads, which is what I though you were talking
about in the first place. The devils claws are huge! Altogether, about the size
of an adult fist; a small pod thing with three LONG prongs that reach out and
grab.
~Nancy
He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered
whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Douglas Adams
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SandraDodd@... writes:
THAT IS IT!
Tribulus terrestris; Puncture Weed Or Land Caltrop
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
We have those here too! Nasty little buggers. We also have cockle burrs,
round/oval shaped with lots of velcro like hooks. Little itty bitty triangle
shaped, flat sticker things, we call sticktites, and these things some call devils
claws and others call goats heads, which is what I though you were talking
about in the first place. The devils claws are huge! Altogether, about the size
of an adult fist; a small pod thing with three LONG prongs that reach out and
grab.
~Nancy
He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered
whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Douglas Adams
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mary
Didn't follow the literature thread but the stickies caught my attention.
Down here in the south, we have some nasty little stickers that drive me
crazy. Now I'm interested to know what they are called. They grow from a
weed that pretty much looks like grass, they are all green and grow like a
very small dandelion flower when the flower turns to fuzz. They are very
small, all green, soft and look like tiny little prickly flowers. Points
sticking out all over. It's when they die and turn brown that they really
hurt. They stick to everything and when you step on one with barefeet, they
really hurt and stick right in. I've found them stuck in Joe's socks after
he cuts the grass and I wash them without knowing they're all stuck in
there. Even after washing, they hurt like hell picking them out.
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
Down here in the south, we have some nasty little stickers that drive me
crazy. Now I'm interested to know what they are called. They grow from a
weed that pretty much looks like grass, they are all green and grow like a
very small dandelion flower when the flower turns to fuzz. They are very
small, all green, soft and look like tiny little prickly flowers. Points
sticking out all over. It's when they die and turn brown that they really
hurt. They stick to everything and when you step on one with barefeet, they
really hurt and stick right in. I've found them stuck in Joe's socks after
he cuts the grass and I wash them without knowing they're all stuck in
there. Even after washing, they hurt like hell picking them out.
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/25/03 05:11:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:
Down here in the south, we have some nasty little stickers that drive me
crazy. Now I'm interested to know what they are called. They grow from a
weed that pretty much looks like grass, they are all green and grow like a
very small dandelion flower when the flower turns to fuzz. They are very
small, all green, soft and look like tiny little prickly flowers. Points
sticking out all over. It's when they die and turn brown that they really
hurt. They stick to everything and when you step on one with barefeet, they
really hurt and stick right in. I've found them stuck in Joe's socks after
he cuts the grass and I wash them without knowing they're all stuck in
there. Even after washing, they hurt like hell picking them out.
*************************************************************
Are they triangular shaped, kind of puffy but mostly flat? Or are they oval
shaped, about the size of this O? We have both. And the larger oval shaped ones
called cockleburs too.
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mummy124@... writes:
Down here in the south, we have some nasty little stickers that drive me
crazy. Now I'm interested to know what they are called. They grow from a
weed that pretty much looks like grass, they are all green and grow like a
very small dandelion flower when the flower turns to fuzz. They are very
small, all green, soft and look like tiny little prickly flowers. Points
sticking out all over. It's when they die and turn brown that they really
hurt. They stick to everything and when you step on one with barefeet, they
really hurt and stick right in. I've found them stuck in Joe's socks after
he cuts the grass and I wash them without knowing they're all stuck in
there. Even after washing, they hurt like hell picking them out.
*************************************************************
Are they triangular shaped, kind of puffy but mostly flat? Or are they oval
shaped, about the size of this O? We have both. And the larger oval shaped ones
called cockleburs too.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Now you're talkin"!
Those are the stickers I grew up around in the South, but the goathead
thing still bewilders me. I thought I had been around, but I have never come
across that term anywhere in any context. Boy, we unschoolers just never know
what we might learn next! <g> JJ
mummy124@... writes:
Those are the stickers I grew up around in the South, but the goathead
thing still bewilders me. I thought I had been around, but I have never come
across that term anywhere in any context. Boy, we unschoolers just never know
what we might learn next! <g> JJ
mummy124@... writes:
> Didn't follow the literature thread but the stickies caught my attention.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> Down here in the south, we have some nasty little stickers that drive me
> crazy. Now I'm interested to know what they are called. They grow from a
> weed that pretty much looks like grass, they are all green and grow like a
> very small dandelion flower when the flower turns to fuzz. They are very
> small, all green, soft and look like tiny little prickly flowers. Points
> sticking out all over. It's when they die and turn brown that they really
> hurt. They stick to everything and when you step on one with barefeet, they
> really hurt and stick right in. I've found them stuck in Joe's socks after
> he cuts the grass and I wash them without knowing they're all stuck in
> there. Even after washing, they hurt like hell picking them out.
>
>
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Forgot to mention what we called these growing up: sandspurs.
Haven't googled this term, so it may be not too scientific. <g> JJ
Dnowens@... writes:
Haven't googled this term, so it may be not too scientific. <g> JJ
Dnowens@... writes:
> In a message dated 9/25/03 05:11:38 PM Central Daylight Time,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> mummy124@... writes:
> Down here in the south, we have some nasty little stickers that drive me
> crazy. Now I'm interested to know what they are called. They grow from a
> weed that pretty much looks like grass, they are all green and grow like a
> very small dandelion flower when the flower turns to fuzz. They are very
> small, all green, soft and look like tiny little prickly flowers. Points
> sticking out all over. It's when they die and turn brown that they really
> hurt. They stick to everything and when you step on one with barefeet, they
> really hurt and stick right in.
Mary
No they are completely round like a little starburst and the bigger ones
about the size of a pencil eraser, some a bit smaller. They do remind me of
the puffy dandelions except instead of the puff it's pointy. The green
pointy ones are soft though and don't stick to anything. Not sure how long
they are green until they start to turn brown. I hate them!
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
<<From: <Dnowens@...>
about the size of a pencil eraser, some a bit smaller. They do remind me of
the puffy dandelions except instead of the puff it's pointy. The green
pointy ones are soft though and don't stick to anything. Not sure how long
they are green until they start to turn brown. I hate them!
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
<<From: <Dnowens@...>
> Are they triangular shaped, kind of puffy but mostly flat? Or are theyoval
> shaped, about the size of this O? We have both. And the larger oval shapedones
> called cockleburs too. >>
Vicki A. Dennis
I grew up in Dallas amid "horny toads" and "spear grass" and "stickerburrs".
I learned the term goathead when we moved about 80 miles west of Ft. Worth into sandy peanut country instead of Dallas Blackland Prairie. Vicious things. Draw blood. The ones there really DO look like a goat's head and are easy to imagine as some sort of devil symbol item! The two "horns" are longer than the other prongs........and do damage not just to bare feet but to tires!
Kids around there just took them in stride but you never heard such complaints as from "outside Texas" visitors. Fireants AND goatheads just seemed too much. Throw in "bull-nettles" and there was lots of talk about "god-forsaken country". Of course, we Native Texans know that there is no better place on or off this planet :-)
vicki
I learned the term goathead when we moved about 80 miles west of Ft. Worth into sandy peanut country instead of Dallas Blackland Prairie. Vicious things. Draw blood. The ones there really DO look like a goat's head and are easy to imagine as some sort of devil symbol item! The two "horns" are longer than the other prongs........and do damage not just to bare feet but to tires!
Kids around there just took them in stride but you never heard such complaints as from "outside Texas" visitors. Fireants AND goatheads just seemed too much. Throw in "bull-nettles" and there was lots of talk about "god-forsaken country". Of course, we Native Texans know that there is no better place on or off this planet :-)
vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: jrossedd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] stickers (was Re: literature as religion)
Now you're talkin"!
Those are the stickers I grew up around in the South, but the goathead
thing still bewilders me. I thought I had been around, but I have never come
across that term anywhere in any context. Boy, we unschoolers just never know
what we might learn next! <g> JJ
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JenV72
Has this site been discussed:
http://www.goatheads.com
"We have available seasonally, from July 1st to September 30th,
the solution to these noxious weeds! For only $75.00 per 250
Weevils. You can fight back with puncturevine weevils. They are
host specific; they eat goatheads and only goathead seeds and stems.
Biologically control your goathead problems!!
Keep your Puncturevine population to a minimum this summer with the
help of,
Host Specific, Puncturevine eating weevils. You can purchase
goathead eating
Allies that will be working even when you're not.
These host specific wonders eat only the viable portion of the green
seed, and
inside the stems. Thus inhibiting the spread, and growth of this
awful plant."
I thought that was interesting. the icky thing is that in my
yard, the goathead plant has mutated. It starts out looking just
like grass. You know when some types of grass grow long and turn
into a little wheat looking like plant? Well, I've found that
instead of the puffy wheat it's a cluster of goatheads. But no,
it's not all of this type of grass. I can have a puff of wheat in
one place and an cluster of goathjeads right next to it. It must be
time to order some weevils. :)
-Jennifer
http://www.goatheads.com
"We have available seasonally, from July 1st to September 30th,
the solution to these noxious weeds! For only $75.00 per 250
Weevils. You can fight back with puncturevine weevils. They are
host specific; they eat goatheads and only goathead seeds and stems.
Biologically control your goathead problems!!
Keep your Puncturevine population to a minimum this summer with the
help of,
Host Specific, Puncturevine eating weevils. You can purchase
goathead eating
Allies that will be working even when you're not.
These host specific wonders eat only the viable portion of the green
seed, and
inside the stems. Thus inhibiting the spread, and growth of this
awful plant."
I thought that was interesting. the icky thing is that in my
yard, the goathead plant has mutated. It starts out looking just
like grass. You know when some types of grass grow long and turn
into a little wheat looking like plant? Well, I've found that
instead of the puffy wheat it's a cluster of goatheads. But no,
it's not all of this type of grass. I can have a puff of wheat in
one place and an cluster of goathjeads right next to it. It must be
time to order some weevils. :)
-Jennifer
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/25/03 10:44:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
jvaitkus@... writes:
Has this site been discussed:
http://www.goatheads.com
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
These are kind of like the things Sandra was talking about, and we have these
here in Kansas as well. The goats heads or devils claws I was talking about
are huge. The pod is about the size of an egg and then there are three long
spiky prongs, like a clawed hand coming off of it. In all, it is about the size
of a mans hand. I haven't found a picture of one yet, I don't know what the
technical name for the plant is, but as soon as I find one I will show! Nasty
suckers, and I have only seen them in sorghum fields in Central and Western
Kansas.
~Nancy
He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered
whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Douglas Adams
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
jvaitkus@... writes:
Has this site been discussed:
http://www.goatheads.com
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
These are kind of like the things Sandra was talking about, and we have these
here in Kansas as well. The goats heads or devils claws I was talking about
are huge. The pod is about the size of an egg and then there are three long
spiky prongs, like a clawed hand coming off of it. In all, it is about the size
of a mans hand. I haven't found a picture of one yet, I don't know what the
technical name for the plant is, but as soon as I find one I will show! Nasty
suckers, and I have only seen them in sorghum fields in Central and Western
Kansas.
~Nancy
He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered
whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Douglas Adams
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
I found the things I was talking about called devils claws or goats heads.
(Called Proboscidea Louisianica, I just found that out!) Here is a link to a
site of a family farm in Edison, Kansas. They grow all sorts of crops and sell
their tumble weeds, devils claws and other weeds too! Very industrious if you
ask me! Kind of a, if you can't beat 'em join 'em philosophy!
http://www.seedpods.com/ Nasty things I think, but to each his own! Click on the picture link
and it shows the different stages of growth.
~Nancy~ enjoying this topic, wondering what other nastys people have in their
neck of the woods!
Everyone has talent. What is rare is the courage to follow the talent to the
dark place where it leads.
Erica Jong
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
(Called Proboscidea Louisianica, I just found that out!) Here is a link to a
site of a family farm in Edison, Kansas. They grow all sorts of crops and sell
their tumble weeds, devils claws and other weeds too! Very industrious if you
ask me! Kind of a, if you can't beat 'em join 'em philosophy!
http://www.seedpods.com/ Nasty things I think, but to each his own! Click on the picture link
and it shows the different stages of growth.
~Nancy~ enjoying this topic, wondering what other nastys people have in their
neck of the woods!
Everyone has talent. What is rare is the courage to follow the talent to the
dark place where it leads.
Erica Jong
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
I found this page http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plmay98.htm#list scroll
down to the third picture, we have these in Kansas. Also scroll to the picture of
a foot in a black sock, these are the flat triangular shaped stick tites we
have, and the next picture of puncture vine. Those will flatten a tire!
~Nancy~ on a roll!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
down to the third picture, we have these in Kansas. Also scroll to the picture of
a foot in a black sock, these are the flat triangular shaped stick tites we
have, and the next picture of puncture vine. Those will flatten a tire!
~Nancy~ on a roll!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Heidi
Puncturevine!??!? yikes! sounds like Little Shop of Horrors!
"Feed me, Seymour!"
us in The Drought States (Idaho being one of them) don't have to
worry about an over proliferation of ANY plant...tumbleweed?
but am I EVER glad we don't have to contend with something called
puncturevine! whew...gonna have nightmares
blessings, HEidiC
--- In [email protected], "JenV72"
<jvaitkus@h...> wrote:
"Feed me, Seymour!"
us in The Drought States (Idaho being one of them) don't have to
worry about an over proliferation of ANY plant...tumbleweed?
but am I EVER glad we don't have to contend with something called
puncturevine! whew...gonna have nightmares
blessings, HEidiC
--- In [email protected], "JenV72"
<jvaitkus@h...> wrote:
> Has this site been discussed:stems.
>
> http://www.goatheads.com
>
> "We have available seasonally, from July 1st to September 30th,
> the solution to these noxious weeds! For only $75.00 per 250
> Weevils. You can fight back with puncturevine weevils. They are
> host specific; they eat goatheads and only goathead seeds and
> Biologically control your goathead problems!!green
>
> Keep your Puncturevine population to a minimum this summer with the
> help of,
> Host Specific, Puncturevine eating weevils. You can purchase
> goathead eating
> Allies that will be working even when you're not.
>
> These host specific wonders eat only the viable portion of the
> seed, andbe
> inside the stems. Thus inhibiting the spread, and growth of this
> awful plant."
>
> I thought that was interesting. the icky thing is that in my
> yard, the goathead plant has mutated. It starts out looking just
> like grass. You know when some types of grass grow long and turn
> into a little wheat looking like plant? Well, I've found that
> instead of the puffy wheat it's a cluster of goatheads. But no,
> it's not all of this type of grass. I can have a puff of wheat in
> one place and an cluster of goathjeads right next to it. It must
> time to order some weevils. :)
>
> -Jennifer
Heidi
okay, now I know that the plant we found on a hike near our place...
a healthy, robust plant with dozens of seed heads...was a burdock.
And each spur is hooked, just like velcro. AND for each spur there is
a seed inside.
HeidiC
a healthy, robust plant with dozens of seed heads...was a burdock.
And each spur is hooked, just like velcro. AND for each spur there is
a seed inside.
HeidiC
--- In [email protected], Dnowens@a... wrote:
> I found this page http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plmay98.htm#list
scroll
> down to the third picture, we have these in Kansas. Also scroll to
the picture of
> a foot in a black sock, these are the flat triangular shaped stick
tites we
> have, and the next picture of puncture vine. Those will flatten a
tire!
>
> ~Nancy~ on a roll!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mary
Neat site. We have the stick tights here. I find them all over my kids
sneaker laces!!! At least those don't hurt. Still can't find the hurting
stickers we have here.
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
sneaker laces!!! At least those don't hurt. Still can't find the hurting
stickers we have here.
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dnowens@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] stickers (was Re: literature as
religion)
> I found this page http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plmay98.htm#list scroll
> down to the third picture, we have these in Kansas. Also scroll to the
picture of
> a foot in a black sock, these are the flat triangular shaped stick tites
we
> have, and the next picture of puncture vine. Those will flatten a tire!
>
> ~Nancy~ on a roll!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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In a message dated 9/25/03 9:44:47 PM, jvaitkus@... writes:
<< You can fight back with puncturevine weevils. They are
host specific; they eat goatheads and only goathead seeds and stems. >>
SO! I am wrong nothing eats them!
And when I googled images, I discovered people eat them too, somehow, as some
Chinese remedy for lack of maximum manliness, it seems.
So I have learned there are men and weevils who eat them.
I've never seen either in my yard, though.
<<You know when some types of grass grow long and turn
into a little wheat looking like plant? Well, I've found that
instead of the puffy wheat it's a cluster of goatheads. >>
Grassburs? Really, you're getting vertical goatheads?
Grassburs grow up in what looks like grass and then it opens up but those
have stickers all around them.
If I bought weevils and put them on a goathead plant, it would be easier to
get a shovel and pull that plant up. As dry as it is where goatheads live,
how could the weevils survive the hike from one plant to another? And if you
have to leave them at each site...
Doesn't seem like a great idea to me.
Pretty good photos at that site, but this is misleading:
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<< You can fight back with puncturevine weevils. They are
host specific; they eat goatheads and only goathead seeds and stems. >>
SO! I am wrong nothing eats them!
And when I googled images, I discovered people eat them too, somehow, as some
Chinese remedy for lack of maximum manliness, it seems.
So I have learned there are men and weevils who eat them.
I've never seen either in my yard, though.
<<You know when some types of grass grow long and turn
into a little wheat looking like plant? Well, I've found that
instead of the puffy wheat it's a cluster of goatheads. >>
Grassburs? Really, you're getting vertical goatheads?
Grassburs grow up in what looks like grass and then it opens up but those
have stickers all around them.
If I bought weevils and put them on a goathead plant, it would be easier to
get a shovel and pull that plant up. As dry as it is where goatheads live,
how could the weevils survive the hike from one plant to another? And if you
have to leave them at each site...
Doesn't seem like a great idea to me.
Pretty good photos at that site, but this is misleading:
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In a message dated 9/25/03 11:52:48 PM, Dnowens@... writes:
<< The goats heads or devils claws I was talking about
are huge. The pod is about the size of an egg and then there are three long
spiky prongs, like a clawed hand coming off of it. >>
There's a thing in west texas called "Devil's claw" (or devil's something)
and it's a seed pod six to ten inches long (the ones I've seen) and then it
dries up, the two halves stay together AND they're curved so that it creates a
kind of trap which can get onto the leg of an animal or a small-footed person and
each step they take the seeds can be released (if any are still in
there--they still can get you if they're empty).
Part of the problem with weeds (and bugs, and birds) is regional terminology.
Sow bugs are roly-polies where I live, but I understand other places call
other things sow bugs, so the word isn't always useful.
What Americans call a robin isn't what a robin is in England. I guess when
immigrants got here they called the nearest-looking bird a robin, but there's
not much similarity.
Sandra
<< The goats heads or devils claws I was talking about
are huge. The pod is about the size of an egg and then there are three long
spiky prongs, like a clawed hand coming off of it. >>
There's a thing in west texas called "Devil's claw" (or devil's something)
and it's a seed pod six to ten inches long (the ones I've seen) and then it
dries up, the two halves stay together AND they're curved so that it creates a
kind of trap which can get onto the leg of an animal or a small-footed person and
each step they take the seeds can be released (if any are still in
there--they still can get you if they're empty).
Part of the problem with weeds (and bugs, and birds) is regional terminology.
Sow bugs are roly-polies where I live, but I understand other places call
other things sow bugs, so the word isn't always useful.
What Americans call a robin isn't what a robin is in England. I guess when
immigrants got here they called the nearest-looking bird a robin, but there's
not much similarity.
Sandra
Julie Solich
The stickers show, but they're against the rocks so it's hard to see them.
Each yellow flower makes one set of stickers.
That photo is showing about 1/3 of that plant, and that's not a very healthy
plant. It's all growing in one direction. So picture that WAY healthier
(like living at the edge of a city park that gets the sprinklers regularly)
and those are what I pull up. Sometimes it only takes three or four plants
to fill up a trash can.
Sandra
Our town is plagued by caltrop too. It grows like mad in the summer and if
you go for a walk you usually have to take your shoes off and pick the
prickles out before you go inside. Mark goes into battle mode with it each
summer. Reminds me of the Day of the Triffids!
Julie
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Each yellow flower makes one set of stickers.
That photo is showing about 1/3 of that plant, and that's not a very healthy
plant. It's all growing in one direction. So picture that WAY healthier
(like living at the edge of a city park that gets the sprinklers regularly)
and those are what I pull up. Sometimes it only takes three or four plants
to fill up a trash can.
Sandra
Our town is plagued by caltrop too. It grows like mad in the summer and if
you go for a walk you usually have to take your shoes off and pick the
prickles out before you go inside. Mark goes into battle mode with it each
summer. Reminds me of the Day of the Triffids!
Julie
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