B & T Simpson

Have to say here, I have been using tampons since day one and never had any
problems, my mother on the other hand got the same line about not using them
if you were not sexually active, she used them anyway because she was a
swimmer. also no problems for her. and I will encourage my daughter to use
them, she has used them since half way thru her first period! I can't
imagine being without them.
Tanya


>I'm just curios to know... how many of the people that are against the use
>of tampons use or have used disposable diapers on their children? It is a
>fact that the chemical in the gel used to make disp. diapers so absorbant
is
>the same chemical that was removed from tampons in 1988 because it was
>linked to TSS. And we have this pressing against our children's
reproductive
>oragans 24/7? I don't want anyone to think this is a personal slam. It's
>not. I use them for my kids from time to time. I'm just saying that perhaps
>we should rethink our stance from time to time. FYI this gel is also the
>same one that is used to coat Tylenol and other gel caps. Is it really
>objective to make blanket statements about the use of tampons when we all
>can't be so noble to say we've never used any of these other products. I
>hate conflict and don't want anyone to think I'm looking for a fight. I
just
>think we all need to examine oue daily practices a liitle closer.
> amy
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lynda" <lurine@...>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 4:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Parental Crisis
>
>
>> Well, I started at 9, back in the dark ages (50's) as did several other
>> members of my family. So, some
>> pre-spotting prior to that age doesn't sound too out there.
>>
>> Now, as to the tampons. That whole business about it being o.k. is
simply
>> manufacturers trying to get more customers. When I went through the
>> classes back in the dark ages, we were told they were definately not o.k.
>> for anyone who wasn't sexually active and were really not designed for
>> anyone who hadn't had a child yet.
>>
>> We now know that they contain Dioxin and this push for younger and
younger
>> girls to use tampons would seem to correlate with the increase in various
>> cancers and the younger and younger age that women are getting cancer
>> (ovarian, cervical, uterine and breast).
>>
>> Now, this is really weird because this seems to be a topic on several
>lists
>> right now so I have my whole Dioxin speel down. Dioxin is in the top 10
>of
>> known carcenogens. It is the "evil" from Love Canal, etc. It is fat
>> soluable, not water soluable which means it resides in fatty tissues and
>is
>> found in humans, mammals, birds and fish and seeks them out, so to speak.
>> Dioxin is the by-product of the bleaching process that cotton goes
through
>> and is residual. Rayon is also another problem as are the chemicals that
>> are put in tampons. There are unbleached tampons available that are
>> chemical free.
>>
>> Lynda, who will stop ranting now %-}
>>
>> ----------
>> > From: Tamilooch@...
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Parental Crisis
>> > Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 12:06 PM
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> > This board has been quiet for a while. But I hope all you supportive
>moms
>> are
>> > somewhere near your computers. I am having a Mother Moment I think and
>> need
>> > some real good advice soon.
>> > okay here is the situation.
>> > My dd is 81/2.
>> > Over the weekend while she was at my girlfriends house, I went on a
>> cleaning
>> > spree. In the process I found a pair of undies that I just bought for
>her
>>
>> > last weekend, rolled in a ball under her bed. There was signs of
>> "spotting"
>> > on them .
>> > Okay I know this is normal but 81/2? Isnt that a bit young , I was 11
>> myself
>> > my sisters were both 14, my bestfriend was almost 16. Although I
believe
>> my
>> > husbands sisters were younger than that?
>> > Anyway I asked her about it and she seemed to not know what I was
>talking
>>
>> > about. I told her it was okay to tell me , even if it was a little
>> > embarrassing but she insisted so I didnt push the issue. I called my
>> > bestfriend who has a 12yod that went through this over the summer. Her
>10
>> yod
>> > just had a class on this in school she had some booklets tha she gave
me
>> to
>> > bring home to my dd. which I did and she read them on her own , I left
>> them
>> > out for her. when I asked her about it , she said "Mom that is sick!"
I
>> > tried to make light of it and giggled and said I know but do you have
>any
>>
>> > questions? She said no and I thought maybe I should drop the subject
for
>> now
>> > .What do you guys think? I know shes a bit young to be able to grasp
>this
>>
>> > concept , so I dont want to freak her out, but at the same time I want
>to
>>
>> > make sure she knows what shes doing too. She absolutely hates to go to
>> the
>> > Drs. and I think she is too young for that kind of Dr. Does anyone
>agree?
>> The
>> > booklet also said that its okay to use Tampons for swimming, ?????? For
>> an 8
>> > yo? I think not.
>> > Anybody have answers or ideas as to handle this situation?
>> >
>> >
>> > HELP!!
>> > Not ready Mom
>> > Tamie
>> >
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Lynda

When I used disposable diapers they didn't have the gel in them. I mainly
used cloth but on an extended vacation they were what we choose to use.

However, wishing to fight or not, I think that no one is trying to be nobel
(rather strange choice of words), one was simply sharing information that
the drug companies and manufacturers of various products have worked very
hard to keep us, the consumers, from knowing. You can't make informed
choices if you don't have the information/knowledge to make those choices.
As one acquires more information/knowledge, one frequently finds that the
choices they made in the past are not the choices they would make in the
present.

Now, TSS is similar to tetenus and blackleg in the environment it needs to
cause problems and putting something on the outside of a body will have
nothing to do with one acquiring any of the above unless one puntures a
spot that they are on. All take a closed environment (lack of oxygen) that
has been traumatized--puncture wounds are the norm for tetenus, the scrapes
and pinches caused by the plastic applicators of the major culprit tampons
created the environment for TSS, a bruise is the norm for blackleg. And,
it should be noted that the tampons with the plastic applicators were the
ones that were pulled and that other tampon makers were only required to
print a warning statement on their packages.

Lynda

----------
> From: K WORTHEN <kworthen@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Parental Crisis
> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 2:48 PM
>
> I'm just curios to know... how many of the people that are against the
use
> of tampons use or have used disposable diapers on their children? It is
a
> fact that the chemical in the gel used to make disp. diapers so absorbant
is
> the same chemical that was removed from tampons in 1988 because it was
> linked to TSS. And we have this pressing against our children's
reproductive
> oragans 24/7? I don't want anyone to think this is a personal slam. It's
> not. I use them for my kids from time to time. I'm just saying that
perhaps
> we should rethink our stance from time to time. FYI this gel is also the
> same one that is used to coat Tylenol and other gel caps. Is it really
> objective to make blanket statements about the use of tampons when we all
> can't be so noble to say we've never used any of these other products. I
> hate conflict and don't want anyone to think I'm looking for a fight. I
just
> think we all need to examine oue daily practices a liitle closer.
> amy

Lynda

Stop that right now, Kathy! That is cruel and unusual punishment! No
Godiva chocolates for you for Easter!

Or were you perhaps offering to be the group buyer <g>

Lynda

----------
> From: Natrlmama@...
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Parental Crisis
> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:16 PM
>
> In a message dated 04/12/2000 11:35:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> lurine@... writes:
>
> <<
> For those that don't have a store that carries the organic tampons and
> pads, you can order them from Harmony. Their website is www.gaiam.com
> >>
> If you have a Trader Joes in your area (I am in So. CA)you can find
organic
> tampons for half the price. I get a package of 40 for 3.99.
>
> Kathy
>
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Lynda

Take this guy's site with a grain of salt. A lot of what he states as
facts are cut and paste to suit his purposes. A lot of his info is correct
but when you built a site to suit a personal agenda, some folks tend to set
aside ethics and the edges between fact and fantasy tend to get fuzzy.

Lynda

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> From: Susan and Theodore <Stuff@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Parental Crisis
> Date: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 5:28 PM
>
> Here try this website
> www.notmilk.com
> there is info about early maturity etc
> AHHHH
> POD
>
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