Mary

Hi everyone,

Just thought I would enlist some help here. Today while the kids were swimming, I fished something out of the pool. It is kind of worm like and kind of snake like too. Very thin, about 3 inches long, black all over, it slithers like a snake but doesn't have a head like one. The head is more worm like but pretty much uniform in size the whole length of the body except at the very tip of the tail where it narrows. Joseph wants to really keep it and find out what it is. I've been all over google with no luck. We'd like to know what it eats. Knowing what it is would help. If anyone as any idea or wants to see it, it's the 2nd to last pic on this page. (like you wouldn't know the other pictures weren't the worm/snake!)

http://homeschoolingtshirts.bizland.com/pictures.htm

Thanks for any future help. The kids are really into this little thing.


Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com

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Could they be blackworms? Three inches sounds big for a blackworm, but I
know they grow larger in the wild. You can buy them at some pet stores to
feed fish.

And we have a big fat cat who looks like a much larger version of your
kitten, with the same markings and everything..

Dar
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:10:18 -0400 "Mary" <mummy124@...> writes:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Just thought I would enlist some help here. Today while the kids
> were swimming, I fished something out of the pool. It is kind of
> worm like and kind of snake like too. Very thin, about 3 inches
> long, black all over, it slithers like a snake but doesn't have a
> head like one. The head is more worm like but pretty much uniform in
> size the whole length of the body except at the very tip of the tail
> where it narrows. Joseph wants to really keep it and find out what
> it is. I've been all over google with no luck. We'd like to know
> what it eats. Knowing what it is would help. If anyone as any idea
> or wants to see it, it's the 2nd to last pic on this page. (like you
> wouldn't know the other pictures weren't the worm/snake!)
>
> http://homeschoolingtshirts.bizland.com/pictures.htm
>
> Thanks for any future help. The kids are really into this little
> thing.
>
>
> Mary B.
> http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
>
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>
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TreeGoddess

Mary wrote:

>Today while the kids were swimming, I fished something out of the pool. It is kind of worm like and kind of snake like too. Very thin, about 3 inches long, black all over, it slithers like a snake but doesn't have a head like one. The head is more worm like but pretty much uniform in size the whole length of the body except at the very tip of the tail where it narrows. Joseph wants to really keep it and find out what it is.
>

My guess is a caecilian. Check out the info at http://caecilian.org and
let me know if that's what it is. They have them at the Amphibiville
exhibit at the Detroit Zoo so that's the first thing I thought of when I
read your description. :) HTH

TreeGoddess

TreeGoddess

freeform@... wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 23:08:25 -0400 TreeGoddess <treegoddess@...>
>writes:
>
>
>>My guess is a caecilian. Check out the info at http://caecilian.org and let me know if that's what it is.
>>
>>
>
>What a strange thing....The page did say there are no known species living in North America.
>

I did read on that site that they are apparently a big thing in the pet
store/trade so it's possible that someone let one/some go in the area.
They are amphibians and could have "escaped" and found some water. They
can reproduce on their own and are a freshwater species -- it could be
easy for a body of water to have a population of them even though they
may not be natives. Who knows? LOL

TreeGoddess


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Mary

From: <freeform@...>


<< Could they be blackworms? Three inches sounds big for a blackworm, but I
know they grow larger in the wild. You can buy them at some pet stores to
feed fish.

And we have a big fat cat who looks like a much larger version of your
kitten, with the same markings and everything..>>


I'm not sure really. They kind of look like it from the picture. Do you know
if these worms live in water? The thing we found was swimming in the pool,
but we have him in a tank now with some gravel and a dish of water and he's
staying out of the water and half buried in the rock. I put him in some sand
and he didn't burrow at all. I certainly won't feed him to our fish, Joseph
thinks he's cute!! Wants to keep him if we can figure out what he'll eat.
I'll have to do some more digging now that I have something else to go on
besides worm/snake!!!!

And as far as the kitten goes, give me some time and I'll fatten him up too.
I have that knack with anything that has fur on it. The big red one in the
picture weighs 19 lbs.


Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com

Tim and Maureen

Excuse the sentiment, but Yuck! I'm staying in Canada for the rest of my life! I like frogs!

Tim T
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On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 23:08:25 -0400 TreeGoddess <treegoddess@...>
writes:
> My guess is a caecilian. Check out the info at http://caecilian.org
> and
> let me know if that's what it is.

What a strange thing....

The page did say there are no known species living in North America.

Here's a page with a bunch of blackworms:

http://aquaticfoods.com/blackwormcare.html

Dar

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Shelley & Donald Wurst

I think it's a type of Caecilian, judging from the photo (tho you'll want to look at Glass Lizards too, to make sure that's not it -- but it doesn't look like it has the right head for a Glass Lizard, and doubt a Glass Lizard would do well swimming around a pool). Not sure why it would be in your pool (maybe someone put it there?). I should think it would eat the tiny crickets you can buy at pet stores.

Someone mentioned Blackworms, but those are segmented and your critter is not.

Good luck, pretty wild looking critter!

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Mary

From the info I got on these little critters, they live in water though.
This one has water available but prefers the dry stones he's in. I think him
being in the pool alive swimming was a fluke. Doesn't look like he prefers
water now.


Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com


<<From: "Shelley & Donald Wurst"


I think it's a type of Caecilian, judging from the photo (tho you'll want
to look at Glass Lizards too, to make sure that's not it -- but it doesn't
look like it has the right head for a Glass Lizard, and doubt a Glass Lizard
would do well swimming around a pool). Not sure why it would be in your
pool (maybe someone put it there?). I should think it would eat the tiny
crickets you can buy at pet stores.

Someone mentioned Blackworms, but those are segmented and your critter is
not.>>

The Bucknums

<<<Excuse the sentiment, but Yuck! I'm staying in Canada for the rest of my life! I like frogs!

Tim T>>>>

Yup me too. NO Cockroaches few rats -none in Alberta. Not too much bites to kill here either. I love winter it kills off all the nasty creepers.
Teresa in Canada


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milgrom family

Hello Mary

I saw the picture of your snake, it looks like a blind snake. Where are you
located? Brahminy blindsnakes are found in a lot of places, including
Mexico, Central America, Australia, Asia and Africa. They aren't venomous,
so nothing to worry about there. Do you have a close up of the snake's head?
or a bigger image? Also, if it's slimy it's not a snake, unless it's a
caecilian.

Thanks

Jordan


----- Original Message ----- > Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:10:18 -0400
> From: "Mary" <mummy124@...>
> Subject: OT tp help my kids
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Just thought I would enlist some help here. Today while the kids were
swimming, I fished something out of the pool. It is kind of worm like and
kind of snake like too. Very thin, about 3 inches long, black all over, it
slithers like a snake but doesn't have a head like one. The head is more
worm like but pretty much uniform in size the whole length of the body
except at the very tip of the tail where it narrows. Joseph wants to really
keep it and find out what it is. I've been all over google with no luck.
We'd like to know what it eats. Knowing what it is would help. If anyone as
any idea or wants to see it, it's the 2nd to last pic on this page. (like
you wouldn't know the other pictures weren't the worm/snake!)
>
> http://homeschoolingtshirts.bizland.com/pictures.htm
>
> Thanks for any future help. The kids are really into this little thing.
>
>
> Mary B.
> http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>

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In a message dated 8/8/2003 9:06:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tmthomas@... writes:

> Excuse the sentiment, but Yuck! I'm staying in Canada for the rest of my
> life! I like frogs!
>
> Tim T
>

When we lived in Louisiana, I'd awaken in the morning to huge, and I mean
HUGE slugs the size of garter snakes, slithering all over the dog dish outside.
*shudder*

Nancy B. in WV


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In a message dated 8/8/2003 10:11:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:


> When we lived in Louisiana, I'd awaken in the morning to huge, and I mean
> HUGE slugs the size of garter snakes, slithering all over the dog dish
> outside.
> *shudder*
>

Imagine what the DOG thought! <G>

~Kelly


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Mary

Thanks for trying to help. We're in south Florida. The worm/snake isn't
slimy at all. And even though he was in our pool, he prefers driy land.
Joseph decided to let him to go today. He hates the idea of something dying
that he would keep just to keep it. So he set him free under the big jasmine
bush by the pool. The bugs and worms and snakes and snails seem to really
like that spot. Thanks anyway. Joseph is happy to know whenever he swims he
can look at the jasmine bush and know his little worm/snake is there
watching! <BG>


Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
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From: "milgrom family" <milgrom8660@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-Discussion] OT tp help my kids


> Hello Mary
>
> I saw the picture of your snake, it looks like a blind snake. Where are
you
> located? Brahminy blindsnakes are found in a lot of places, including
> Mexico, Central America, Australia, Asia and Africa. They aren't venomous,
> so nothing to worry about there. Do you have a close up of the snake's
head?
> or a bigger image? Also, if it's slimy it's not a snake, unless it's a
> caecilian.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jordan
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:10:18 -0400
> > From: "Mary" <mummy124@...>
> > Subject: OT tp help my kids
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Just thought I would enlist some help here. Today while the kids were
> swimming, I fished something out of the pool. It is kind of worm like and
> kind of snake like too. Very thin, about 3 inches long, black all over, it
> slithers like a snake but doesn't have a head like one. The head is more
> worm like but pretty much uniform in size the whole length of the body
> except at the very tip of the tail where it narrows. Joseph wants to
really
> keep it and find out what it is. I've been all over google with no luck.
> We'd like to know what it eats. Knowing what it is would help. If anyone
as
> any idea or wants to see it, it's the 2nd to last pic on this page. (like
> you wouldn't know the other pictures weren't the worm/snake!)
> >
> > http://homeschoolingtshirts.bizland.com/pictures.htm
> >
> > Thanks for any future help. The kids are really into this little thing.
> >
> >
> > Mary B.
> > http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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