public school
Anna
Hi, I have been home schooling my daughter since 3rd grade. She is
in 7th this year. My son is starting Kindergarten this year.
Yesterday my husband told me he wants to put him in public school and
then he would most likely agree to him being home for 1st grade. He
said he thinks the structure, and being exposed to 20 different
personalities and a different teacher with a different teaching style
will benifit him. He said he wants him to be able to experiance
school like my daughter did and it's not fair for me to take that
away from him.
I am going to have a hard time convincing him oterwise. Do you all
have any ideas, know of any articles, or other resources I can use to
help him see things my way?
Thank you for your help.
Anna
in 7th this year. My son is starting Kindergarten this year.
Yesterday my husband told me he wants to put him in public school and
then he would most likely agree to him being home for 1st grade. He
said he thinks the structure, and being exposed to 20 different
personalities and a different teacher with a different teaching style
will benifit him. He said he wants him to be able to experiance
school like my daughter did and it's not fair for me to take that
away from him.
I am going to have a hard time convincing him oterwise. Do you all
have any ideas, know of any articles, or other resources I can use to
help him see things my way?
Thank you for your help.
Anna
Alan & Brenda Leonard
7/6/03 17:10:
If your son does want to go to school, would he have the option to stop
going anytime he decided home was a better place to be? If he went to
school for 3 days and wanted to quit, would be that be okay with your
husband?
And finally, if he doesn't want to go to school, or you don't feel he's
ready yet, why couldn't he wait until he's older? School will still be
there, whenever he wants to try it out, if ever.
Have you read Teach Your Own, by John Holt? (Or the new one edited by Pat
Farenga). He talks about how school just isn't such a great learning
situation.
brenda
> HeWhat does your son want? I would consider that vastly relevant.
> said he thinks the structure, and being exposed to 20 different
> personalities and a different teacher with a different teaching style
> will benifit him. He said he wants him to be able to experiance
> school like my daughter did and it's not fair for me to take that
> away from him.
If your son does want to go to school, would he have the option to stop
going anytime he decided home was a better place to be? If he went to
school for 3 days and wanted to quit, would be that be okay with your
husband?
And finally, if he doesn't want to go to school, or you don't feel he's
ready yet, why couldn't he wait until he's older? School will still be
there, whenever he wants to try it out, if ever.
Have you read Teach Your Own, by John Holt? (Or the new one edited by Pat
Farenga). He talks about how school just isn't such a great learning
situation.
brenda
Sarah
If you don't think you will be able to change his mind, kindergarten
would be the best year to get his "school exposure" over with, since it
is usually the least structured and the most child-led of all the
grades. Kindergarten is much more structured than it used to be, at
least in California where they are supposed to learn letter sounds and
phonetic writing and such by the end of it, but it is still much play
time and little bookwork.
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: Anna [mailto:us4byrds@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-Discussion] public school
Hi, I have been home schooling my daughter since 3rd grade. She is
in 7th this year. My son is starting Kindergarten this year.
Yesterday my husband told me he wants to put him in public school and
then he would most likely agree to him being home for 1st grade. He
said he thinks the structure, and being exposed to 20 different
personalities and a different teacher with a different teaching style
will benifit him. He said he wants him to be able to experiance
school like my daughter did and it's not fair for me to take that
away from him.
I am going to have a hard time convincing him oterwise. Do you all
have any ideas, know of any articles, or other resources I can use to
help him see things my way?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
would be the best year to get his "school exposure" over with, since it
is usually the least structured and the most child-led of all the
grades. Kindergarten is much more structured than it used to be, at
least in California where they are supposed to learn letter sounds and
phonetic writing and such by the end of it, but it is still much play
time and little bookwork.
Sarah
-----Original Message-----
From: Anna [mailto:us4byrds@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 7:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-Discussion] public school
Hi, I have been home schooling my daughter since 3rd grade. She is
in 7th this year. My son is starting Kindergarten this year.
Yesterday my husband told me he wants to put him in public school and
then he would most likely agree to him being home for 1st grade. He
said he thinks the structure, and being exposed to 20 different
personalities and a different teacher with a different teaching style
will benifit him. He said he wants him to be able to experiance
school like my daughter did and it's not fair for me to take that
away from him.
I am going to have a hard time convincing him oterwise. Do you all
have any ideas, know of any articles, or other resources I can use to
help him see things my way?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
Anna,
I just found this book at I time I could really use it to help reassure
myself about the choices I've made.
I think everyone should read it but I think it could really benefit you
right now.
Sharon
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 14:09:19 -0000 "Anna" <us4byrds@...> writes:
Do you all
have any ideas, know of any articles, or other resources I can use to
help him see things my way?
Thank you for your help.
Anna
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I just found this book at I time I could really use it to help reassure
myself about the choices I've made.
I think everyone should read it but I think it could really benefit you
right now.
Sharon
On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 14:09:19 -0000 "Anna" <us4byrds@...> writes:
Do you all
have any ideas, know of any articles, or other resources I can use to
help him see things my way?
Thank you for your help.
Anna
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Tia Leschke
> If you don't think you will be able to change his mind, kindergartenEven so, I've seen negative personality changes in kids during that first
> would be the best year to get his "school exposure" over with, since it
> is usually the least structured and the most child-led of all the
> grades. Kindergarten is much more structured than it used to be, at
> least in California where they are supposed to learn letter sounds and
> phonetic writing and such by the end of it, but it is still much play
> time and little bookwork.
year of kindergarten. And the schools here aren't pushing phonics and stuff
in kindergarten like in California.
Tia
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...
nellebelle
I wanted to keep my kids out of public school until they had internalized that they could learn anything they want to learn and also long enough so that they could realize all the advantages of homeschooling.
Mary Ellen
Mary Ellen
----- Original Message -----> If you don't think you will be able to change his mind, kindergarten
> would be the best year to get his "school exposure" over with, since it
> is usually the least structured and the most child-led of all the
> grades.
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Anna
--- In [email protected], Alan & Brenda Leonard
<abtleo@e...> wrote:
go to school, he just doesn't know any other way yet.
if it continued, then he could come home.
Anna
<abtleo@e...> wrote:
> 7/6/03 17:10:He is happy to be homeschooled. It is not that he does not want to
>
> What does your son want? I would consider that vastly relevant.
go to school, he just doesn't know any other way yet.
> If your son does want to go to school, would he have the option tostop
> going anytime he decided home was a better place to be? If he wentto
> school for 3 days and wanted to quit, would be that be okay withyour
> husband?I'm not sure. He said if problems came up we would deal with it, and
if it continued, then he could come home.
Anna
Anna
--- In [email protected], sluror@j... wrote:
I missed the name of the book you are refering to.
Thanks,
Anna
> Anna,Sharon,
>
> I just found this book at I time I could really use it to help
I missed the name of the book you are refering to.
Thanks,
Anna
Bill and Diane
I personally would vote for putting off any school at all as long as
possible. I believe the earlier the damage is done, the worse. Besides,
if you keep putting it off just ONE year (or week or whatever) you have
a chance of avoiding it altogether.
:-) Diane
possible. I believe the earlier the damage is done, the worse. Besides,
if you keep putting it off just ONE year (or week or whatever) you have
a chance of avoiding it altogether.
:-) Diane
>If you don't think you will be able to change his mind, kindergarten
>
>>would be the best year to get his "school exposure" over with, since it
>>is usually the least structured and the most child-led of all the
>>grades.
>>
[email protected]
A Sense of Self : Listening to Homeschooled Adolescent Girls
http://halleducation.com/education/1037.shtml
Although It's written about girls I can see my sons also dealing with
many of the issues mentioned in this book. This is why my children make
the choices they do, pick the friends they do, think the way they do.
This is why I think the way I do. It's like reading the posts on lists
like this one and thinking hey, I could totally relate. It all makes
sense, and it's good.
It's those unschooled girls I've been wishing would move into the
neighborhood so my daughter doesn't have to feel so alone being
different, or at least be her support group in a book.
I so strongly believe everyone should read this book regardless of
whether they homeschool or not, if they're thinking about it or if
they're thinking about going to school, or if they don't even have
children, girls or boys. It's based on girls but it is about everyone in
our society.
Sharon
Sharon,
I missed the name of the book you are referring to.
Thanks,
Anna
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http://halleducation.com/education/1037.shtml
Although It's written about girls I can see my sons also dealing with
many of the issues mentioned in this book. This is why my children make
the choices they do, pick the friends they do, think the way they do.
This is why I think the way I do. It's like reading the posts on lists
like this one and thinking hey, I could totally relate. It all makes
sense, and it's good.
It's those unschooled girls I've been wishing would move into the
neighborhood so my daughter doesn't have to feel so alone being
different, or at least be her support group in a book.
I so strongly believe everyone should read this book regardless of
whether they homeschool or not, if they're thinking about it or if
they're thinking about going to school, or if they don't even have
children, girls or boys. It's based on girls but it is about everyone in
our society.
Sharon
Sharon,
I missed the name of the book you are referring to.
Thanks,
Anna
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Christina Morrissey
I realize this discussion has been out there a while, but I just thought I
would add that my daughter, the perfectionist, had NIGHTMARES during
kindergarten about coloring outside the lines and using too much glue on
her projects. I then found these comments written on her projects by her
teacher. The teacher (a much older woman) and I came to a better
understanding very quickly there after!
Childhood is often no picnic for the children! Not when you're looking
from the inside out. Sometimes we don't realize just how much our kids are
affected about things we would never consider as having an impact on their
daily lives. What we think of as "fun" may just be the opposite.
Christina in Seattle
At 11:09 PM 7/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:
would add that my daughter, the perfectionist, had NIGHTMARES during
kindergarten about coloring outside the lines and using too much glue on
her projects. I then found these comments written on her projects by her
teacher. The teacher (a much older woman) and I came to a better
understanding very quickly there after!
Childhood is often no picnic for the children! Not when you're looking
from the inside out. Sometimes we don't realize just how much our kids are
affected about things we would never consider as having an impact on their
daily lives. What we think of as "fun" may just be the opposite.
Christina in Seattle
At 11:09 PM 7/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I personally would vote for putting off any school at all as long as[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>possible. I believe the earlier the damage is done, the worse. Besides,
>if you keep putting it off just ONE year (or week or whatever) you have
>a chance of avoiding it altogether.
>
>:-) Diane
>
> >If you don't think you will be able to change his mind, kindergarten
> >
> >>would be the best year to get his "school exposure" over with, since it
> >>is usually the least structured and the most child-led of all the
> >>grades.
> >>
>
>
>
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--- In [email protected], Ali Kat
<sweetgypsiedncer@y...> wrote:
am a single parent, worked fulltime days at a job i couldnt really
bring him along too, and his father refused to change shifts to keep
him. My son at this point was refusing to go to school, and i would
have to take him into work with me after a half hour of tears trying
to get him to go into the school (his father would just bodily drag
him up the steps and dump him off in class)...what i did was post a
plea for temporary care on my local hs email list. I got several
responses offering to help. I found a really great mom with a boy my
son's age who was more than happy to have a playmate for her son. I
did pay her, although she said she didnt need me to. This allowed for
enough time for me to figure out a plan of action (in my case,
quitting my job and moving back in with family.)
I would recommend your local HS email list or support group and
asking for help. Its not an ideal situation but will give you more
time until you can figure things out. Maybe find a job in which your
daughter can go with you, or maybe providing childcare in your home.
It was very frustrating at first for me because i couldnt find any
help, but joining the email group for my area was the key. I wish all
of us single homeschoolers could just move to the same area so we
could support one another!
Good luck,
Katherine
<sweetgypsiedncer@y...> wrote:
>Last december i needed immediate/emergency daytime care for my son. I
> DD would be going against her (and my) wishes. We are moving, and
>my mother is becoming more hostile, and has been talking about
>suicide (according to my sister). I am not sure that keeping DD in
>her care would be wise under those conditions. I work full-time and
>have been unable to find someone who would be willing to provide
>full-time care for DD during the day at a reasonable cost. I don't
>know what else to do.
am a single parent, worked fulltime days at a job i couldnt really
bring him along too, and his father refused to change shifts to keep
him. My son at this point was refusing to go to school, and i would
have to take him into work with me after a half hour of tears trying
to get him to go into the school (his father would just bodily drag
him up the steps and dump him off in class)...what i did was post a
plea for temporary care on my local hs email list. I got several
responses offering to help. I found a really great mom with a boy my
son's age who was more than happy to have a playmate for her son. I
did pay her, although she said she didnt need me to. This allowed for
enough time for me to figure out a plan of action (in my case,
quitting my job and moving back in with family.)
I would recommend your local HS email list or support group and
asking for help. Its not an ideal situation but will give you more
time until you can figure things out. Maybe find a job in which your
daughter can go with you, or maybe providing childcare in your home.
It was very frustrating at first for me because i couldnt find any
help, but joining the email group for my area was the key. I wish all
of us single homeschoolers could just move to the same area so we
could support one another!
Good luck,
Katherine