books preferred
Annette Naake
I can identify with this sentiment, actually...
I am STILL trying to get the guys to read more. We do not limit TV, video
games or computer. One or more always seems to be on around here. However, I
know families (schooled and home/unschooled) who do limit, either by not
having some of the options or by agreeing beforehand on when the screen goes
on or off. And their not-yet-teen boys are avid readers -- some are into
comic books, others read kids' chapter books like RL Stine, Harry Potter and
Hardy Boys, one is reading classic fiction (ie, Dickens, Twain). (In fact,
when I was a kid, my parents limited strictly, and I had read classic
fiction by the time I was 11 or 12.) Meanwhile, mine (10 and 6 -- 6yo is not
a reader yet) are watching Disney Channel and Nickelodeon or playing
"Zelda"! My question is, is there anyone out there who does not limit TV,
etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to read? If so, I'd like to
hear about the circumstances under which that happens and what they are
reading.
Annette
Stella wrote:
LOL
Boy can I identify with this!
In our first year of homeschooling I was very intent on encouraging Jordan
to read more.� I remember one day saying (rather impatiently) "Put down that
book, it's time to go to the library!" That stopped me in my tracks and made
me reevaluate the whole "school at home" thing. What an eye opener! LOL
Stella
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I am STILL trying to get the guys to read more. We do not limit TV, video
games or computer. One or more always seems to be on around here. However, I
know families (schooled and home/unschooled) who do limit, either by not
having some of the options or by agreeing beforehand on when the screen goes
on or off. And their not-yet-teen boys are avid readers -- some are into
comic books, others read kids' chapter books like RL Stine, Harry Potter and
Hardy Boys, one is reading classic fiction (ie, Dickens, Twain). (In fact,
when I was a kid, my parents limited strictly, and I had read classic
fiction by the time I was 11 or 12.) Meanwhile, mine (10 and 6 -- 6yo is not
a reader yet) are watching Disney Channel and Nickelodeon or playing
"Zelda"! My question is, is there anyone out there who does not limit TV,
etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to read? If so, I'd like to
hear about the circumstances under which that happens and what they are
reading.
Annette
Stella wrote:
LOL
Boy can I identify with this!
In our first year of homeschooling I was very intent on encouraging Jordan
to read more.� I remember one day saying (rather impatiently) "Put down that
book, it's time to go to the library!" That stopped me in my tracks and made
me reevaluate the whole "school at home" thing. What an eye opener! LOL
Stella
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----- Original Message ----- My question is, is there anyone out there who
does not limit TV,
> etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to read?>>>>>>>>>>
I never have had strict limits on TV, but we've had periods of no cable
(thus little worth watching). After spending time on this list, I realize
that I was placing some limits on their tv, but I can honestly say that
they've never had strict limits such as so many hours per day or not being
allowed to watch certain things. It has been about 1 1/2 years since I've
removed all limits.
7yod doesn't read on her own, but loves to be read to and listen to books on
tape and watch tv/movies. She has listened to many books that would be
considered way above her reading/listening level by those who pay attention
to that classification. Right now, her dad is reading to her, Golf My Way
by Jack Nicholson. Maybe not a *classic*, but certainly not the typical
bedtime story for a 7 yo.
10yod was reading at about 6 1/2 and reads an incredible amount and variety
on her own and also still loves to have me read aloud to her and to read
aloud to me. She reads both fiction and non-fiction on her own and chooses
both typical and non-typical books for her age. I have never had any rules
on what they should read. I have discussed fiction vs non-fiction in terms
of just explaining the difference, but have never suggested that one is
better or more important to read than another. I belong to an adult book
club and 10yod is fascinated and asks me all sorts of questions about it.
Both my kids also enjoy watching tv. I was raised watching tv and loving to
read. I probably watch the least amount of tv in my family, because I have
lots of books I'd like to get to. But I honestly wish I had more time to
watch tv/movies. There is so much great stuff to experience in that medium.
What makes something a classic anyway? Should everyone in the world read
all of Shakespeare and Dickens and Hawkings and the Bible and Asimov and
Lewis and EB White and Silverstein and every other great book ever written
and read them all by the age of 18? I certainly think that the more we know
about various things, the more we *get* from conversations in which tidbits
come up from various literature, history, or ancient myth. But it is
impossible for any one person to know everything. We do not have to know
everything there is to know before we turn 18 and it would be impossible
anyway.
Mary Ellen
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In a message dated 6/28/03 3:29:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
naake1999@... writes:
16 now, so anything else besides something that involves girls :-). He
has always loved to read.. never been limited on TV.. he watched a lot when he
was younger, but still liked reading better. He has read more books than most
folks read in a lifetime, and he read them of his own accord, not by
"assignment". He does go to school, but every book he has been assigned to read, he
had already read, usually several years before it was assigned.
My dd does not care for TV, but she is not really an avid reader. If a
book really grabs her interest, she will stick with it til she's finished, but
often she loses interest and does not finish a book. My 11 yo son HATES to
read. He will avoid it at all costs. He can read, he just does not enjoy it at
all. He loves TV, computer and video games. He has gaming magazines and
such, but he just looks at the pictures or asks me to read the articles to him
if he is interested. My 8 yo son is a lot like my dd, he can take or leave
reading. If there is a book he really likes, he will read it over and over.
But, lots of times I offer to read to him or listen to him read, he declines.
He does still perfer me to read aloud to him over him reading to me.
I love books and I love to read. My oldest son is most like me in that
regard. My other children's "less than enthusiastic" ideas about reading do not
come from too much TV, a non-supportive reading environment, or lack of
resources. It is just part of thier personalities, thier dispostions. I think
love of reading is inherent, like love of animals or gardening. There is not
much influence folks have as far as "making" kids love to read. Yeah, you
can make someone HATE to read by forcing it on them or shaming them for not
being proficient at it.
Teresa
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naake1999@... writes:
> My question is, is there anyone out there who does not limit TV,My oldest son would rather read than do just about anything else Well, he's
> etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to read? If so, I'd like to
>
> hear about the circumstances under which that happens and what they are
> reading.
>
16 now, so anything else besides something that involves girls :-). He
has always loved to read.. never been limited on TV.. he watched a lot when he
was younger, but still liked reading better. He has read more books than most
folks read in a lifetime, and he read them of his own accord, not by
"assignment". He does go to school, but every book he has been assigned to read, he
had already read, usually several years before it was assigned.
My dd does not care for TV, but she is not really an avid reader. If a
book really grabs her interest, she will stick with it til she's finished, but
often she loses interest and does not finish a book. My 11 yo son HATES to
read. He will avoid it at all costs. He can read, he just does not enjoy it at
all. He loves TV, computer and video games. He has gaming magazines and
such, but he just looks at the pictures or asks me to read the articles to him
if he is interested. My 8 yo son is a lot like my dd, he can take or leave
reading. If there is a book he really likes, he will read it over and over.
But, lots of times I offer to read to him or listen to him read, he declines.
He does still perfer me to read aloud to him over him reading to me.
I love books and I love to read. My oldest son is most like me in that
regard. My other children's "less than enthusiastic" ideas about reading do not
come from too much TV, a non-supportive reading environment, or lack of
resources. It is just part of thier personalities, thier dispostions. I think
love of reading is inherent, like love of animals or gardening. There is not
much influence folks have as far as "making" kids love to read. Yeah, you
can make someone HATE to read by forcing it on them or shaming them for not
being proficient at it.
Teresa
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Julie Solich
<<<My question is, is there anyone out there who
does not limit TV, etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to
read?>>>
I have 2 boys (9 and 7). They love being read to. and they love audio tapes
as much as movies. My oldest was reading at night for a couple of hours but
has stopped since we relaxed bedtime. It's usually quite late by the time I
finish reading to them so he goes straight to sleep. ]
Jacob, 7, doesn't read books on his own but I think that's mostly because he
finds the books he loves a little too difficult. It's more fun to listen to
me! They both love books and I'm sure as they become more confident readers
that they will read on their own. They see Mark and I read all the time and
there are lots of books around. Jess just the other day said that books are
great because they take you into another world.
I have just tried to make our reading time really special. I know for me
some of my best memories are of my mum lying on my bed with me reading me to
sleep. Mum had four more children after me and I don't think she read to the
others very much. I am the only one of us who reads voraciously and I think
it's because of the feelings generated in me from those times with mum.
We finished reading The Carnivorous Carnival (L. Snicket) and I asked the
boys if they wanted to try HP. They haven't been interested at all. They
said okay (doubtfully) and we finished the Philosopher's Stone in less than
a week and they're hooked. I'm alittle hoarse but they are soooo excited.
I've read 7 chapters of The Chamber of Secrets in 2 days so I'm hoping that
the Prisoner of Azkaban arrives in time or we won't know what to do with
ourselves!
I'm dying to read Order of the Phoenix but $45 for a book is just
outrageous. I just hope we don't have to wait too long for a paperback which
will probably still be nearly $20.
Julie
Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@...).
does not limit TV, etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to
read?>>>
I have 2 boys (9 and 7). They love being read to. and they love audio tapes
as much as movies. My oldest was reading at night for a couple of hours but
has stopped since we relaxed bedtime. It's usually quite late by the time I
finish reading to them so he goes straight to sleep. ]
Jacob, 7, doesn't read books on his own but I think that's mostly because he
finds the books he loves a little too difficult. It's more fun to listen to
me! They both love books and I'm sure as they become more confident readers
that they will read on their own. They see Mark and I read all the time and
there are lots of books around. Jess just the other day said that books are
great because they take you into another world.
I have just tried to make our reading time really special. I know for me
some of my best memories are of my mum lying on my bed with me reading me to
sleep. Mum had four more children after me and I don't think she read to the
others very much. I am the only one of us who reads voraciously and I think
it's because of the feelings generated in me from those times with mum.
We finished reading The Carnivorous Carnival (L. Snicket) and I asked the
boys if they wanted to try HP. They haven't been interested at all. They
said okay (doubtfully) and we finished the Philosopher's Stone in less than
a week and they're hooked. I'm alittle hoarse but they are soooo excited.
I've read 7 chapters of The Chamber of Secrets in 2 days so I'm hoping that
the Prisoner of Azkaban arrives in time or we won't know what to do with
ourselves!
I'm dying to read Order of the Phoenix but $45 for a book is just
outrageous. I just hope we don't have to wait too long for a paperback which
will probably still be nearly $20.
Julie
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mjsolich@... writes:
bookstore in town (no discounts) and we only paid 30.00 plus tax. I thought that
was a lot!!
Nancy
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mjsolich@... writes:
> I'm dying to read Order of the Phoenix but $45 for a book is justWow! Where did you see one for $45? We bought ours from a very small
> outrageous. I just hope we don't have to wait too long for a paperback which
> will probably still be nearly $20.
>
>
bookstore in town (no discounts) and we only paid 30.00 plus tax. I thought that
was a lot!!
Nancy
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In a message dated 6/28/2003 9:42:44 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:
The fourth book just came out in paperback in the U.S. like a year ago, I
think. It stayed in hardback for at least two years after it came out.
Sandra
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CelticFrau@... writes:
> Wow! Where did you see one for $45? We bought ours from a very smallAustralia. <g>
> bookstore in town (no discounts) and we only paid 30.00 plus tax. I thought
> that
> was a lot!!
The fourth book just came out in paperback in the U.S. like a year ago, I
think. It stayed in hardback for at least two years after it came out.
Sandra
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glad2bmadly
****I can identify with this sentiment, actually...
I am STILL trying to get the guys to read more.*****
Annette
I read very early as a child and remember being so excited to get home from school, in first grade so that I could lie on the couch and read my Grimm's Fairy Tales and Hans Christian Anderson... They were my first fat hard back books and were such a great escape. I hadn't been completely conscious of how much I had expected my children to be like this until I read Sandra's article in this month's HEM magazine and I realized that i sooo have a picture, still, of home schooling being about lots of time to read without interruption. I hated being called to dinner because I would have to put down my book.
I have always read to them a lot and they have asked for it as well. This past year, before coming here, I had established daily "reading time" (based on a book by Lucy Calkins) when they would pick out lots of books and we would cuddle up in bed or on the couch and read for an hour. It could happen any time of day. I never scheduled it in, (well, I guess evey day is a schedule <g> ) but I did strongly encourage it to happen. After just a few weeks, reading had suddenly become a Mommy expectation, another power struggle. Now that I have given all that up, they are slowly starting to bring me books again during the day. We do read to them every night before bed but they love that. We are really into Roald Dahl's shorter books, like George's Marvelous Medicine, and The Giraffe the Pelly and Me. Also, I read somewhere that boys like nonfiction and joke books a lot. Girls, for the most part are suposedly into fiction more. We go to the library every week and they get lots of
all kinds but the non fiction dinosaur books are my three yr. old boy's favorites and the non fiction animal, sports and joke books are the oldest boy's favorites. The older one is starting to want to sound out words, very few and verysporadically and I am not doing anything unless asked. I did too much all year and am shocked he has any interest in it now! And yes, we do (as of last month) allow mostly unrestricted TV. It's Summer and they are very into being outside and running around so I haven't had to deal with the TV watching much. Just a few days of a few hours in a row and I learned that I could survive it fine, even enjoy it with them! I love TV and I don't watch that much so why did i assume that was all they would do?
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I am STILL trying to get the guys to read more.*****
Annette
I read very early as a child and remember being so excited to get home from school, in first grade so that I could lie on the couch and read my Grimm's Fairy Tales and Hans Christian Anderson... They were my first fat hard back books and were such a great escape. I hadn't been completely conscious of how much I had expected my children to be like this until I read Sandra's article in this month's HEM magazine and I realized that i sooo have a picture, still, of home schooling being about lots of time to read without interruption. I hated being called to dinner because I would have to put down my book.
I have always read to them a lot and they have asked for it as well. This past year, before coming here, I had established daily "reading time" (based on a book by Lucy Calkins) when they would pick out lots of books and we would cuddle up in bed or on the couch and read for an hour. It could happen any time of day. I never scheduled it in, (well, I guess evey day is a schedule <g> ) but I did strongly encourage it to happen. After just a few weeks, reading had suddenly become a Mommy expectation, another power struggle. Now that I have given all that up, they are slowly starting to bring me books again during the day. We do read to them every night before bed but they love that. We are really into Roald Dahl's shorter books, like George's Marvelous Medicine, and The Giraffe the Pelly and Me. Also, I read somewhere that boys like nonfiction and joke books a lot. Girls, for the most part are suposedly into fiction more. We go to the library every week and they get lots of
all kinds but the non fiction dinosaur books are my three yr. old boy's favorites and the non fiction animal, sports and joke books are the oldest boy's favorites. The older one is starting to want to sound out words, very few and verysporadically and I am not doing anything unless asked. I did too much all year and am shocked he has any interest in it now! And yes, we do (as of last month) allow mostly unrestricted TV. It's Summer and they are very into being outside and running around so I haven't had to deal with the TV watching much. Just a few days of a few hours in a row and I learned that I could survive it fine, even enjoy it with them! I love TV and I don't watch that much so why did i assume that was all they would do?
Madeline
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In a message dated 6/28/03 8:42:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:
under $18.00.
Rhonda
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CelticFrau@... writes:
> >I'm dying to read Order of the Phoenix but $45 for a book is justYikes!!! Our local warehouse stores Sam's club, and Costco, both sell it for
> >outrageous. I just hope we don't have to wait too long for a paperback
> which
> >will probably still be nearly $20.
> >
> >
> Wow! Where did you see one for $45? We bought ours from a very small
> bookstore in town (no discounts) and we only paid 30.00 plus tax. I thought
> that
> was a lot!!
>
under $18.00.
Rhonda
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Julie Solich
>Well, I hope it doesn't take that long this time because I'm not waiting 2
> The fourth book just came out in paperback in the U.S. like a year ago, I
> think. It stayed in hardback for at least two years after it came out.
>
> Sandra
years and judging by the way we are ripping through Chamber of Secrets the
boys will be clamouring for it all too soon. The Prisoner of Azkaban will
be arriving next week and that's going to cost $15.95 (that's a paperback
with a discount). I am amazed at the prices of books/dvd's in the U.S.
compared to Australian prices. It's very depressing!
Julie, who is thinking she should resign herself to forking out $45 for a
fix of Harry Potter
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> Yikes!!! Our local warehouse stores Sam's club, and Costco, both sell it
> under $18.00.Okay, now I really am depressed! $18.00!!!!!!!
>
> Rhonda
Julie, having a little cry!
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In a message dated 6/29/03 8:58:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mjsolich@... writes:
to be released in June 2004.
Pam G.
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mjsolich@... writes:
> . The Prisoner of Azkaban willI just heard on the news last night that the movie for this book is scheduled
> be arriving next week and that's going to cost $15.95 (that's a paperback
> with a discount).
to be released in June 2004.
Pam G.
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Deborah
>>My question is, is there anyone out there who does not limit TV, etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to read? If so, I'd like to hear about the circumstances under which that happens and what they are reading.Annette<< My almost 13yo ds doesn't necessarily prefer books, he *loves* books, tv, movies, gameboy, nintendo, computer games, Internet, Legos, trains, pets, etc. I am new to unschooling, so have had my moments of limiting anything electronic, but my heart was never in it for very long. I will tell you this: during the summer or on the weekend when we always unschooled (just thought it was "a day off") he switches constantly from one thing to another with a book in tow. He goes through days where he does nothing but read...while eating, using the bathroom, etc. and other days where he doesn't read much (although there's a lot of reading to be done outside of books). He reads a wide variety. Harry Potter 5 is his latest go every where, do nothing else book. He's read all the Harry Potter books many times. Recently he read The Hobbit. He loves Garfield comics, Animorphs and Hank the Cowdog. He's also listening to A Wrinkle in Time. He also reads software and game manuals until their covers are tattered and their pages are falling out. I think when left to his own choices, he needs a variety each day with a day here and there engrossed in one thing, to make him happy. Deborah
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In a message dated 6/28/03 11:08:48 PM, glad2bmadly@... writes:
<< I love TV and I don't watch that much >>
I loved this statement.
Too many people seem to think that "I love something" means "I don't love
anything else."
I love chocolate, but I have brownie mixes in the cabinet that have been
there for two months. The only chocolate I've had in a week has been some
chocolate syrup on ice cream Wednesday or so, and that's even having a bag of dark
chocolate in a drawer right next to my computer.
You can love something and not LIVE there hourly or even daily or weekly.
Kirby's first real reading (no illustrations) amazed me. I knew he could
read magazine captions and cards, but in preparation for a karate belt test when
he was nine or ten, he read (right in front of me, in the car) a chapter on
the history of Okinawan karate, from a book NOT written for kids, and translated
from Japanese.
That wasn't easy reading, but he showed no indication that it should be too
hard for him. He read it and passed the oral part of his belt test. I acted
casual, but it was serious acting! <g>
Kirby has only read one novel. Maybe two. He had a book he wouldn't let
Holly see, so I'm guessing it was somewhat nasty. Fan-fiction style of stuff.
It was borrowed. And he read a novel based on The Legend of Five Rings card
game. Most of his reading is technical--games rules, and tournament policies,
and administrative stuff having to do with games and gaming stores.
I don't see Marty reading for fun, but he'll read magazine articles about
movies or music or games or comedians he likes, and his rate and comprehension
seem to be mature/normal/non-kidlike.
Holly's reading novels now. She wants me to find her a Nancy Drew book.
Any recommendations on a good first one? Maybe some of you have girls who've
read some lately.
Sandra
<< I love TV and I don't watch that much >>
I loved this statement.
Too many people seem to think that "I love something" means "I don't love
anything else."
I love chocolate, but I have brownie mixes in the cabinet that have been
there for two months. The only chocolate I've had in a week has been some
chocolate syrup on ice cream Wednesday or so, and that's even having a bag of dark
chocolate in a drawer right next to my computer.
You can love something and not LIVE there hourly or even daily or weekly.
Kirby's first real reading (no illustrations) amazed me. I knew he could
read magazine captions and cards, but in preparation for a karate belt test when
he was nine or ten, he read (right in front of me, in the car) a chapter on
the history of Okinawan karate, from a book NOT written for kids, and translated
from Japanese.
That wasn't easy reading, but he showed no indication that it should be too
hard for him. He read it and passed the oral part of his belt test. I acted
casual, but it was serious acting! <g>
Kirby has only read one novel. Maybe two. He had a book he wouldn't let
Holly see, so I'm guessing it was somewhat nasty. Fan-fiction style of stuff.
It was borrowed. And he read a novel based on The Legend of Five Rings card
game. Most of his reading is technical--games rules, and tournament policies,
and administrative stuff having to do with games and gaming stores.
I don't see Marty reading for fun, but he'll read magazine articles about
movies or music or games or comedians he likes, and his rate and comprehension
seem to be mature/normal/non-kidlike.
Holly's reading novels now. She wants me to find her a Nancy Drew book.
Any recommendations on a good first one? Maybe some of you have girls who've
read some lately.
Sandra
nellebelle
>>>>>I read somewhere that boys like nonfiction and joke books a lot. Girls, for the most part are supposedly into fiction more>>>>>I can't speak for boys, but my 10yod reads non-fiction and fiction interchangeably. Both of my daughters love to read or listen to joke books. Neither one has been too excited about dinosaurs, but my dh is!
Mary Ellen
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nellebelle
> I'm dying to read Order of the Phoenix but $45 for a book is justCan't you get it at the library? Our library bought about 10 copies (city
> outrageous.>>>>
population under 40,000), so we shouldn't have to wait too long. We are #17
in the holds queue.
Oh, we also saw them at Costco for $16. Hardcover.
Mary Ellen
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In a message dated 6-29-2003 6:59:28 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
mjsolich@... writes:
$20?!? Enlighten me! Why can't one of us send ya one??
diana,
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They expand our imaginations to infinite possibilities that cannot exist in a
life of isolation." --Brian Koslow
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mjsolich@... writes:
> Okay, now I really am depressed! $18.00!!!!!!!$18.00 book ~ how much can international postage be?? Certainly not more than
$20?!? Enlighten me! Why can't one of us send ya one??
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“Relationships are a prerequisite for producing results beyond ourselves.
They expand our imaginations to infinite possibilities that cannot exist in a
life of isolation." --Brian Koslow
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Jon and Rue Kream
>> She wants me to find her a Nancy Drew book.Any recommendations on a good first one?
Hi Sandra - The books are numbered, so she could always start with #1 :0).
I buy them at antique stores (usually about $3) because I like to read the
original version (I don't know if all of the new ones have been pc'd, but
some of them have.) ~Rue
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Mary
<<In a message dated 6/28/03 3:29:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
naake1999@... writes:
<<My question is, is there anyone out there who does not limit TV,
etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to read? If so, I'd like to
hear about the circumstances under which that happens and what they are
reading.>>
My kids are very young yet. Well at least the two that do read. Tara, the
school child, won't read anything unless she absolutely has to. Joseph is
only 8 and doesn not ever have to turn off TV if he doesn't want to. He
stays up a lot later than the rest. Very often, late at night, he will take
books in his room to read in bed. He has the choice to do lots of other
things, but he wants to read. We have tons of cable channels so it's not
like there isn't anything on TV. Many times I have to go in his room and
gather up all the books he's been taking in there and out them back out
where everyone can get to them. Sometimes they are kid books and sometimes I
find encyclopedia's in there too. Lately he prefers to draw. He's doing
something with YuGiOh. He draws pictures and then writes things, like are on
the cards, on the pictures too. So he's even reading there. He's not a
little book worm or anything, but he definitely choses to read many times
when he could chose something else.
Mary B
naake1999@... writes:
<<My question is, is there anyone out there who does not limit TV,
etc., and has kids, esp. boys, who would prefer to read? If so, I'd like to
hear about the circumstances under which that happens and what they are
reading.>>
My kids are very young yet. Well at least the two that do read. Tara, the
school child, won't read anything unless she absolutely has to. Joseph is
only 8 and doesn not ever have to turn off TV if he doesn't want to. He
stays up a lot later than the rest. Very often, late at night, he will take
books in his room to read in bed. He has the choice to do lots of other
things, but he wants to read. We have tons of cable channels so it's not
like there isn't anything on TV. Many times I have to go in his room and
gather up all the books he's been taking in there and out them back out
where everyone can get to them. Sometimes they are kid books and sometimes I
find encyclopedia's in there too. Lately he prefers to draw. He's doing
something with YuGiOh. He draws pictures and then writes things, like are on
the cards, on the pictures too. So he's even reading there. He's not a
little book worm or anything, but he definitely choses to read many times
when he could chose something else.
Mary B
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/29/03 9:18:04 AM, HaHaMommy@... writes:
<< $18.00 book ~ how much can international postage be?? Certainly not more
than
$20?!? Enlighten me! Why can't one of us send ya one?? >>
Air mail to Australia is really expensive.
Them sending you money that you don't have to pay to exchange is also
expensive.
Two pounds of book to Australia:
Global Express Guaranteed Document Service
(See Service Guide Before Mailing) 2 - 3 Days $52.00 Max. length 46",
width 35", height 46" and max. length plus girth 108"
Global Express Guaranteed Non-Document Service
(See Service Guide Before Mailing) 2 - 3 Days Max. length 46", width 35",
height 46" and max. length plus girth 108"
Calculate Price based on Dimensional Weight.
Global Express Mail (EMS) 3 - 5 Days $24.00 Max. length 36", max. length
plus girth 79"
Global Priority Mail - Flat-rate Envelope (large) 4 - 6 Days $9.00
9-1/2" x 12-1/2"
Global Priority Mail - Flat-rate Envelope (small) 4 - 6 Days $5.00 6" x
10"
Global Priority Mail - Variable Weight (single) 4 - 6 Days $16.00 Max.
length 24", Max. length, height, depth combined 36"
Airmail Letter Post 4 - 7 Days $14.90 Max. length 24", Max. length,
height, depth combined 36"
Airmail Parcel Post 4 - 10 Days $18.75 Max. length 42", max. length plus
girth 79"
Economy (Surface) Letter Post 4 - 6 Weeks $6.65 Max. length 24", Max.
length, height, depth combined 36"
Economy (Surface) Parcel Post 4 - 6 Weeks $21.50 Max. length 42", max.
length plus girth 79"
It's not going to fit in one of those envelopes. For letting it take a
month, only $6.65. For getting it there soon, $16 up.
I guessed at the weight.
Sandra
<< $18.00 book ~ how much can international postage be?? Certainly not more
than
$20?!? Enlighten me! Why can't one of us send ya one?? >>
Air mail to Australia is really expensive.
Them sending you money that you don't have to pay to exchange is also
expensive.
Two pounds of book to Australia:
Global Express Guaranteed Document Service
(See Service Guide Before Mailing) 2 - 3 Days $52.00 Max. length 46",
width 35", height 46" and max. length plus girth 108"
Global Express Guaranteed Non-Document Service
(See Service Guide Before Mailing) 2 - 3 Days Max. length 46", width 35",
height 46" and max. length plus girth 108"
Calculate Price based on Dimensional Weight.
Global Express Mail (EMS) 3 - 5 Days $24.00 Max. length 36", max. length
plus girth 79"
Global Priority Mail - Flat-rate Envelope (large) 4 - 6 Days $9.00
9-1/2" x 12-1/2"
Global Priority Mail - Flat-rate Envelope (small) 4 - 6 Days $5.00 6" x
10"
Global Priority Mail - Variable Weight (single) 4 - 6 Days $16.00 Max.
length 24", Max. length, height, depth combined 36"
Airmail Letter Post 4 - 7 Days $14.90 Max. length 24", Max. length,
height, depth combined 36"
Airmail Parcel Post 4 - 10 Days $18.75 Max. length 42", max. length plus
girth 79"
Economy (Surface) Letter Post 4 - 6 Weeks $6.65 Max. length 24", Max.
length, height, depth combined 36"
Economy (Surface) Parcel Post 4 - 6 Weeks $21.50 Max. length 42", max.
length plus girth 79"
It's not going to fit in one of those envelopes. For letting it take a
month, only $6.65. For getting it there soon, $16 up.
I guessed at the weight.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/29/03 12:25:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:
strike a pose and have me take a picture of it. Then download it on the computer
and they add the attack/defense etc to the bottom of the card and print it
out. Laminate it so it won't get messy and they have their own Yu Gi Oh cards.
LOL. They love it.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
mummy124@... writes:
> Lately he prefers to draw. He's doingMy boys are doing that as well. They make something out of legos or just
> something with YuGiOh. He draws pictures and then writes things, like are on
> the cards, on the pictures too.
strike a pose and have me take a picture of it. Then download it on the computer
and they add the attack/defense etc to the bottom of the card and print it
out. Laminate it so it won't get messy and they have their own Yu Gi Oh cards.
LOL. They love it.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/29/03 1:32:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, genant2@...
writes:
thier "creations" or poses of thier action figures/lego men.. But then they
make like a slide show story. It's really cool too. The Yugi-Oh card making is
a great idea too, I might mention that to them.
Teresa
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writes:
> My boys are doing that as well. They make something out of legos or justMy boys have been doing something kind of similar... Taking the pictures of
> strike a pose and have me take a picture of it. Then download it on the
> computer
thier "creations" or poses of thier action figures/lego men.. But then they
make like a slide show story. It's really cool too. The Yugi-Oh card making is
a great idea too, I might mention that to them.
Teresa
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mary
From: <genant2@...>
<<My boys are doing that as well. They make something out of legos or just
strike a pose and have me take a picture of it. Then download it on the
computer
and they add the attack/defense etc to the bottom of the card and print it
out. Laminate it so it won't get messy and they have their own Yu Gi Oh
cards.
LOL. They love it.>>
Oh that's a really cool idea!!! I'm afraid to mention it though. Joseph is
so far gone already I'd be laminating until I was 75!!! He has a whole shoe
box full of cards he has made himself. All drawn with pictures he drew.
Literally hundreds of them and I see no end in sight. Thing is he has the
real YuGiOh cards too. Tons of them. Not sure why he goes through so much
trouble (seems to me not at all to him!) but he's really good and loves to
do it.
Mary B
<<My boys are doing that as well. They make something out of legos or just
strike a pose and have me take a picture of it. Then download it on the
computer
and they add the attack/defense etc to the bottom of the card and print it
out. Laminate it so it won't get messy and they have their own Yu Gi Oh
cards.
LOL. They love it.>>
Oh that's a really cool idea!!! I'm afraid to mention it though. Joseph is
so far gone already I'd be laminating until I was 75!!! He has a whole shoe
box full of cards he has made himself. All drawn with pictures he drew.
Literally hundreds of them and I see no end in sight. Thing is he has the
real YuGiOh cards too. Tons of them. Not sure why he goes through so much
trouble (seems to me not at all to him!) but he's really good and loves to
do it.
Mary B
[email protected]
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 13:41:10 EDT grlynbl@... writes:
other assorted things) and likes me to take pictures of them, but with a
slide show she could actually show the progression of the game...
dar
> My boys have been doing something kind of similar... Taking theOooh, that sounds cool. Rain makes "set-ups" with playmobil figures (and
> pictures of
> thier "creations" or poses of thier action figures/lego men.. But
> then they
> make like a slide show story. It's really cool too.
other assorted things) and likes me to take pictures of them, but with a
slide show she could actually show the progression of the game...
dar
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/29/03 8:40:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
skreams@... writes:
Hardy Boys series, but sorry to say, I have no clue where they went. Our local
used bookstores have them. The original hardbacks. I too have not read the
recent versions, so I cannot attest to any changes. I've thought about buying them
again, but since Kass and Kree aren't interested, I've just put it off. Good
luck and if you can't find them locally, let us know. I have 3 used bookstores
I frequent weekly.
Rhonda
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skreams@... writes:
> Hi Sandra - The books are numbered, so she could always start with #1 :0).Yes Sandra, I agree with Rue. I at one time had the entire Nancy Drew and
> I buy them at antique stores (usually about $3) because I like to read the
> original version (I don't know if all of the new ones have been pc'd, but
> some of them have.) ~Rue
>
Hardy Boys series, but sorry to say, I have no clue where they went. Our local
used bookstores have them. The original hardbacks. I too have not read the
recent versions, so I cannot attest to any changes. I've thought about buying them
again, but since Kass and Kree aren't interested, I've just put it off. Good
luck and if you can't find them locally, let us know. I have 3 used bookstores
I frequent weekly.
Rhonda
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
skreams@a... writes:
<<Sandra - The books are numbered, so she could always start with #1 .I buy
them at antique stores (usually about $3)>>
Sandra, eBay always has a very large selection of used and new Nancy Drew
books up for auction or for "buy it now" option. We recently picked up some hard
cover ones for only $1.00 with a $1.25 shipping charge.
Here is a link to what they have right now:
<A
HREF="http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&query=nancy+drew+book&srchdesc=y&ht=1&st=2&category1=1093&Top10=&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&c
atref=C1">Nancy Drew Books</A>
HTH
Kim
<<Sandra - The books are numbered, so she could always start with #1 .I buy
them at antique stores (usually about $3)>>
Sandra, eBay always has a very large selection of used and new Nancy Drew
books up for auction or for "buy it now" option. We recently picked up some hard
cover ones for only $1.00 with a $1.25 shipping charge.
Here is a link to what they have right now:
<A
HREF="http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&query=nancy+drew+book&srchdesc=y&ht=1&st=2&category1=1093&Top10=&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&c
atref=C1">Nancy Drew Books</A>
HTH
Kim
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/29/03 2:49:10 PM, RJHill241@... writes:
<< The original hardbacks. I too have not read the
recent versions, so I cannot attest to any changes. >>
From the time the books were new, they were updated regularly to keep them
modern. I knew about that in the 60's, that the versions we were reading had
updated radios and cars, and clothes. It's the first series I ever heard of
that had been designed to keep current. So changes aren't going to bother me.
She didn't say she wantss to read them all, she wants to try one, so what I'm
hoping is maybe a girl has been reading some and can recommend a particularly
good one.
When I was a kid, I liked The Secret in the Old Clock and the River Boat
whatever, but many years have passed and maybe there's something newer and cooler!
Sandra
<< The original hardbacks. I too have not read the
recent versions, so I cannot attest to any changes. >>
From the time the books were new, they were updated regularly to keep them
modern. I knew about that in the 60's, that the versions we were reading had
updated radios and cars, and clothes. It's the first series I ever heard of
that had been designed to keep current. So changes aren't going to bother me.
She didn't say she wantss to read them all, she wants to try one, so what I'm
hoping is maybe a girl has been reading some and can recommend a particularly
good one.
When I was a kid, I liked The Secret in the Old Clock and the River Boat
whatever, but many years have passed and maybe there's something newer and cooler!
Sandra
Nora or Devereaux Cannon
We have read about 15 Nancy Drew's over the past 6 months. From
a 6's preferences, the best 3 are:
The Hidden Staircase
Shadow Ranch
Lilac Inn
...I'm partial to the Hollow Oak myself. They are all listed at
the following web site with some descriptions:
http://nancy-drew.mysterynet.com/nancydrew/kids/books/digests.sht
ml
We just get them from the library.
a 6's preferences, the best 3 are:
The Hidden Staircase
Shadow Ranch
Lilac Inn
...I'm partial to the Hollow Oak myself. They are all listed at
the following web site with some descriptions:
http://nancy-drew.mysterynet.com/nancydrew/kids/books/digests.sht
ml
We just get them from the library.
----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] books preferred
|
| In a message dated 6/29/03 2:49:10 PM, RJHill241@...
writes:
|
| << The original hardbacks. I too have not read the
| recent versions, so I cannot attest to any changes. >>
|
| From the time the books were new, they were updated regularly
to keep them
| modern. I knew about that in the 60's, that the versions we
were reading had
| updated radios and cars, and clothes. It's the first series I
ever heard of
| that had been designed to keep current. So changes aren't
going to bother me.
|
| She didn't say she wantss to read them all, she wants to try
one, so what I'm
| hoping is maybe a girl has been reading some and can recommend
a particularly
| good one.
|
| When I was a kid, I liked The Secret in the Old Clock and the
River Boat
| whatever, but many years have passed and maybe there's
something newer and cooler!
|
| Sandra
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Nora or Devereaux Cannon
Follow-up on Nancy Drew - the series has as important a social
context for its time as does Junie B or Unfortunate Events or
Captain Underwear have for ours. I happened to love the Hardy
Boys and Ruth Fielding and the Bobbsy Twins and Campfire Girls
and Cherry Ames and all the others of the genre. My grandfather
had every one of them from when my mother was the only child of
the Academic Dean of a Normal School; I would immerse myself for
days at a time in the summers when we visited. It doesn't take
long to spot the formula or ferret out the social norms being
conveyed. Some of the bowdlerized revisions cheat you of that
second part of the joy, so make sure you know which ones you want
and are getting.
context for its time as does Junie B or Unfortunate Events or
Captain Underwear have for ours. I happened to love the Hardy
Boys and Ruth Fielding and the Bobbsy Twins and Campfire Girls
and Cherry Ames and all the others of the genre. My grandfather
had every one of them from when my mother was the only child of
the Academic Dean of a Normal School; I would immerse myself for
days at a time in the summers when we visited. It doesn't take
long to spot the formula or ferret out the social norms being
conveyed. Some of the bowdlerized revisions cheat you of that
second part of the joy, so make sure you know which ones you want
and are getting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nora or Devereaux Cannon" <dcannon@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] books preferred
| We have read about 15 Nancy Drew's over the past 6 months.
From
| a 6's preferences, the best 3 are:
| The Hidden Staircase
| Shadow Ranch
| Lilac Inn
|
| ...I'm partial to the Hollow Oak myself. They are all listed
at
| the following web site with some descriptions:
|
http://nancy-drew.mysterynet.com/nancydrew/kids/books/digests.sht
| ml
|
| We just get them from the library.
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: <SandraDodd@...>
| To: <[email protected]>
| Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 4:11 PM
| Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] books preferred
|
|
| |
| | In a message dated 6/29/03 2:49:10 PM, RJHill241@...
| writes:
| |
| | << The original hardbacks. I too have not read the
| | recent versions, so I cannot attest to any changes. >>
| |
| | From the time the books were new, they were updated regularly
| to keep them
| | modern. I knew about that in the 60's, that the versions we
| were reading had
| | updated radios and cars, and clothes. It's the first series
I
| ever heard of
| | that had been designed to keep current. So changes aren't
| going to bother me.
| |
| | She didn't say she wantss to read them all, she wants to try
| one, so what I'm
| | hoping is maybe a girl has been reading some and can
recommend
| a particularly
| | good one.
| |
| | When I was a kid, I liked The Secret in the Old Clock and the
| River Boat
| | whatever, but many years have passed and maybe there's
| something newer and cooler!
| |
| | Sandra
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Tia Leschke
> Can't you get it at the library? Our library bought about 10 copies (city#17
> population under 40,000), so we shouldn't have to wait too long. We are
> in the holds queue.I checked our library. They ordered 60 copies, and the day before the book
came out there were 455 holds on those 60 copies. I checked the cassette
(I'm hoping it's unabridged) and there were something like 27 holds on 6
copies, so it won't take as long.
Tia
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...
Tia Leschke
> Okay, now I really am depressed! $18.00!!!!!!!$18.00 book ~ how much can international postage be?? Certainly not more
than
$20?!? Enlighten me! Why can't one of us send ya one??
I'm guessing it has to do with the Australian dollar. I know that $18 US
has until recently translated into about $27 Canadian. Maybe $18 US
translate to $45 or whatever it was Australian. Then you have to look at
living costs and wage rates to really compare. Things cost more in Canada
(in general) but wages are higher for the most part.
Tia
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...