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In a message dated 6/25/03 11:43:20 AM, crazymoma67@... writes:

<< If I need to go run an errand and the kid wants to sit home and watch TV

or play a game.. I have to insist they turn the TV off and get in the

car. >>

For most people, I think it depends how old they are, and whether the errand
is crucial.

It's 1:36.
I started waking kids up at 11:00 so Kirby could go to work, Holly could go
to free lunch, and Marty because he was to go and pick up the video they made
of the Junior Police Academy.

I needed to send a money order for a Ninja Turtle Sword I'm getting Kirby for
his birthday. (SECRET!!)

I made pancakes from scratch and all but Holly sat and ate some. (She was
saving herself for free lunch.)

Marty asked me to get him a copy of Attack of the Clones, and so after Kirby
was at work and Holly had gone to the park, Marty went on errands with me.
Hastings (got the DVD and a Futurama comic for Holly), grocery store (money
order and marinade stuff for a party tomorrow night), talked about Marty signing
up for kick boxing or regular boxing or wrestling, and drove by a kick boxing
studio that's roller-blading distance from our house to check hours and phone
number. Went to the post office. Passed by the park where Holly was, stopped
to see if she wanted a ride, chatted, Marty stayed to eat the free lunch as
it was one of his favorites, and hung out with Holly and her friend.

We were rarely far from the house, and Marty was in possession of a new DVD.
I could have dropped him off. He CHOSE to hang out with me and Holly for an
hour and a half. We were having a really nice time.

If I had very often felt like I had to insist he do what I say on MY schedule
without regard for his own feelings, I don't think he would, as a fourteen
year old boy, choose to go on errands with me. He didn't really need to be
there to get his video. I could have and was willing, but he wanted to go.

Yes, parents DO have the legal right to turn TV shows off partway through,
and to tell their kids what to do. And YES they can be unschooling without it.
But when people come and say "I want my unschooling to work like yours does,"
and they don't really want to honestly consider WHY it works well when it
works well, it's frustrating.

Back to chocolate chip cookies, my friend Barb LOVES mine and says they're
the best ever. When she wanted the recipe and I got to "use real butter" she
said, "I'm not going to use butter, I'll use margarine, but go on."

She can't make cookies like I make them if she insists on margarine. They'll
be cookies, but her request was for me to give her the recipe for the cookies
she had just eaten.

Sandra

Heidi

This is what is going on around our place the last few days.

we have a handmedown foosball table in the front room, and we are
evolving a game using both pokemon and foosball elements

Pokemon Foosball!!!

You play a round of foosball first. Actually, no, you select nine
cards first, at total random from an upside down jumble on the table.
Then you play a round of foosball. Whoever scores, gets to look at his
or her cards and select by sight. The other person must choose a card
from his hand without looking. Whichever card wins (and I am
completely reliant upon my kids to know what THAT is! L good thing I
trust them, eh?) that person gets to shoot the ball, while the person
whose card was weaker, has to be still for the value of the card's
defense number, divided by 10. IOW, if it's a defense value of 20, the
"loser" of the pokemon draw has to hold off for a count of two.

Also, we start the ball on the foosball table by propping the ball
between the feet of two opposing players who have been turned up, so
their feet form this little...tripod-ish thing. When you do that, and
both spin the rods simultaneously, the ball goes FLYING! That can be
pretty funny.

Because the players on one team have yellow in their uniforms, they
have "electricity" powers, and the other team has red, so they have
"fire" energy. This helps when a card is drawn that has one of those
energies as a defense, or helps the other side, if that energy is a
weakness :)

Isn't this fun? We're making up some more rules. This is katie's and
my game. We're going to play some more tonight.

My achin back.

LOL

HeidiC

Andrea

We used a whole litre (quart) of bubble stuff today. We didn't spill it or
make big bubbles, this was a whole litre used up in dip and blow :-) Mostly
I blew and the boys chased, then they progressed to trying to bite them.
Much more fun.

I think we spent a total of two hours on this throughout the day and all
ages (4 to 38) had fun. We did lots of other stuff, too, but this was a
really good dampish day for bubbles.

Donna Andrea in foggy Nova Scotia