Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] eczema
barefootwisteria
Hi,
Eczema is normally a problem with elimanation & a huge, if not 99% of the
time caused by dairy products.
Topical creams do no good as the skin is our largest elimination organ &
when the large intestine/ colin/lungs get full of mucus from dairy,
non-sprouted wheat, & other items that are mucous forming, the skin begins
to show signs. Treat from the inside out...
Instead of spending money on & the torture of tests, common sense says that
mammals are not supposed to drink bodily fluids from another mammal after
weaning. Not trying to be condescending here, just honest. A good plan is
to take your child off of ALL dairy & use sprouted wheat products like
Eziekiel Bread or Alvarado St. Bakery items or no wheat, strawbeeies for at
minimum of 90 days & go from there.
I'd also replenish her friendly bacteria supply with porbiotic (soy based if
liquid) & see where you are in 3a few weeks...
www.notmilk.com is a good site about dairy education.
Also www.shirleyswellnesscafe.com
Hope this helps,
w.
Eczema is normally a problem with elimanation & a huge, if not 99% of the
time caused by dairy products.
Topical creams do no good as the skin is our largest elimination organ &
when the large intestine/ colin/lungs get full of mucus from dairy,
non-sprouted wheat, & other items that are mucous forming, the skin begins
to show signs. Treat from the inside out...
Instead of spending money on & the torture of tests, common sense says that
mammals are not supposed to drink bodily fluids from another mammal after
weaning. Not trying to be condescending here, just honest. A good plan is
to take your child off of ALL dairy & use sprouted wheat products like
Eziekiel Bread or Alvarado St. Bakery items or no wheat, strawbeeies for at
minimum of 90 days & go from there.
I'd also replenish her friendly bacteria supply with porbiotic (soy based if
liquid) & see where you are in 3a few weeks...
www.notmilk.com is a good site about dairy education.
Also www.shirleyswellnesscafe.com
Hope this helps,
w.
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:04:46 -0400 (EDT)
> From: sharonashleigh@...
> Subject: OT--allergy testing for eczema
>
> Hi! Our 3 yr. old dd has had a "curse" of eczema since the fall. It
> started because she loved taking baths, so she took a couple a day. At
> the time I thought - why not - I'll just have a REALLY clean kid. LOL
> Then the eczema came.
> Since then we have tried all kinds of creams - herbal and otherwise,
> homeopathics, oat baths,,,,etc... most of which helped to a point but
> never got rid of it all together. We have come to the conclusion that
> it is triggered by something she's eating. So far we have noticed
> dairy, strawberries and possibly wheat make her rash worse and ITCHY.
nellebelle
There are human populations that have had dairy as a major food source for
eons. It is no more unnatural to consume dairy than it is to pick fruit
from a tree or to eat meat or grain. All living creatures eat something and
some eat many things.
It's certainly worth a try for an individual with certain symptoms to
eliminate milk, as that may be a problem for that individual.
Many others can consume dairy products and not suffer ill effects.
Mary Ellen
eons. It is no more unnatural to consume dairy than it is to pick fruit
from a tree or to eat meat or grain. All living creatures eat something and
some eat many things.
It's certainly worth a try for an individual with certain symptoms to
eliminate milk, as that may be a problem for that individual.
Many others can consume dairy products and not suffer ill effects.
Mary Ellen
----- Original Message ----- > when the large intestine/ colin/lungs get
full of mucus from dairy,
> non-sprouted wheat, & other items that are mucous forming, the skin begins
> to show signs. Treat from the inside out...
>
> Instead of spending money on & the torture of tests, common sense says
that
> mammals are not supposed to drink bodily fluids from another mammal after
> weaning.
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In a message dated 6/24/2003 11:53:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
barefootwisteria@... writes:
www.notmilk.com is a good site about dairy education.
Also www.shirleyswellnesscafe.com
Hope this helps,
w. >>>>
Wow,
I visited the Not Milk web site and boy did I lean a lot!
Both our younger children have Eczema and we have been using Elidil. The
Elidil works to clear it up but it comes right back. I had suspected milk as the
culprit but also eggs as it tends to flare up more in the baby when he eats
eggs.
Our daughter drinks way too much milk, so much so that she limits her food
intake but is on the 75% on the charts. Hmmm....
I call her my vegetarian as she will eat cucumbers,carrots,apples,olives
celery and others. She will often not eat her meal but pick out the fruits and
veggies. When we visit fast foods she eats the fries and drinks the drink and
gives the baby her chicken nuggets. With the exception of the Eczema she is and
has always been a healthy child. (no ear infections, major colds, broken bones
etc.)
Im rambling but I just wanted to say that the no milk site makes sense to me.
Laura D
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barefootwisteria@... writes:
www.notmilk.com is a good site about dairy education.
Also www.shirleyswellnesscafe.com
Hope this helps,
w. >>>>
Wow,
I visited the Not Milk web site and boy did I lean a lot!
Both our younger children have Eczema and we have been using Elidil. The
Elidil works to clear it up but it comes right back. I had suspected milk as the
culprit but also eggs as it tends to flare up more in the baby when he eats
eggs.
Our daughter drinks way too much milk, so much so that she limits her food
intake but is on the 75% on the charts. Hmmm....
I call her my vegetarian as she will eat cucumbers,carrots,apples,olives
celery and others. She will often not eat her meal but pick out the fruits and
veggies. When we visit fast foods she eats the fries and drinks the drink and
gives the baby her chicken nuggets. With the exception of the Eczema she is and
has always been a healthy child. (no ear infections, major colds, broken bones
etc.)
Im rambling but I just wanted to say that the no milk site makes sense to me.
Laura D
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coyote's corner
Actually, I have read many reports stating that dairy products are VERY bad
for humans. Esp., w/ all the chemicals, BGH, etc.
There's a huge difference between an apple and a cow.
Janis
for humans. Esp., w/ all the chemicals, BGH, etc.
There's a huge difference between an apple and a cow.
Janis
----- Original Message -----
From: "nellebelle" <nellebelle@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] eczema
> There are human populations that have had dairy as a major food source for
> eons. It is no more unnatural to consume dairy than it is to pick fruit
> from a tree or to eat meat or grain. All living creatures eat something
and
> some eat many things.
>
> It's certainly worth a try for an individual with certain symptoms to
> eliminate milk, as that may be a problem for that individual.
>
> Many others can consume dairy products and not suffer ill effects.
>
> Mary Ellen
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > when the large intestine/ colin/lungs get
> full of mucus from dairy,
> > non-sprouted wheat, & other items that are mucous forming, the skin
begins
> > to show signs. Treat from the inside out...
> >
> > Instead of spending money on & the torture of tests, common sense says
> that
> > mammals are not supposed to drink bodily fluids from another mammal
after
> > weaning.
>
>
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In a message dated 6/24/03 9:52:54 AM, barefootwisteria@... writes:
<< Topical creams do no good as the skin is our largest elimination organ >>
Cortisone will help UNTIL other means are in place.
I had excema as a kid and it was awful. My mom knew diddly (nor did many
others) about it then, but as I got older and prescription Aristocort could at
least keep it from being painful and help keep me from scratching it raw, for
the first time I wasn't just helpless.
<< common sense says that
mammals are not supposed to drink bodily fluids from another mammal after
weaning. Not trying to be condescending here, just honest.>>
Most people on the planet can't drink milk and be healthy, but past honesty
and common sense, there ARE groups of people who (for understandable and common
sense reasons) have developed milk drinking ability and in some cases need.
Laplanders, Tibetans, other northern-dwelling people. Scandinavians and Brits
seem to have a lot of milk and cheese tradition and fewer lactose problems.
The "Got Milk?" campaign is pretty evil, because people of Mediterranean and
African descent don't do well drinking milk.
I know the arguments against Cortisone cream, but I also know what it's like
to be a kid with excema. None of my kids has ever had it. Maybe luck. (My
husband never did.) Maybe diet and more opportunity to be clean and happy.
Sandra
<< Topical creams do no good as the skin is our largest elimination organ >>
Cortisone will help UNTIL other means are in place.
I had excema as a kid and it was awful. My mom knew diddly (nor did many
others) about it then, but as I got older and prescription Aristocort could at
least keep it from being painful and help keep me from scratching it raw, for
the first time I wasn't just helpless.
<< common sense says that
mammals are not supposed to drink bodily fluids from another mammal after
weaning. Not trying to be condescending here, just honest.>>
Most people on the planet can't drink milk and be healthy, but past honesty
and common sense, there ARE groups of people who (for understandable and common
sense reasons) have developed milk drinking ability and in some cases need.
Laplanders, Tibetans, other northern-dwelling people. Scandinavians and Brits
seem to have a lot of milk and cheese tradition and fewer lactose problems.
The "Got Milk?" campaign is pretty evil, because people of Mediterranean and
African descent don't do well drinking milk.
I know the arguments against Cortisone cream, but I also know what it's like
to be a kid with excema. None of my kids has ever had it. Maybe luck. (My
husband never did.) Maybe diet and more opportunity to be clean and happy.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/24/2003 12:48:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HMSL2@...
writes:
pediatrician was wonderful and always getting me tapes and articles and new
information to try to alleviate her symptoms. He said he had it as a child terribly
and moderately as an adult. He felt his biggest problem as an adult was all
the hand washing he had to do as a doctor.
Sarah was not a milk drinker at all. She did love bubble bath and playing in
the pool. Baths were cut back to a minimum, once a week if possible, just
washing up in the sink daily. A good moisturizer is very important, or was to
my child. The mixed a product at the drugstore for her eucerin cream (which if
available OTC) but added the steroids to it since she was so badly affected
over a large portion of her body those tiny tubes were just not practical.
Also she took two different types of allergy medications, apparently eczema has
an allergic component to it (milk could then be a trigger for some). She tried
allergy shots for several years but could never get up to immunity levels
because of the severity of her allergies, so they had to be stopped.
The doctor had always said while some children just outgrow eczema, he
doubted a case as severe as Sarah's would be left behind at puberty. At about 14
without any change in anything we can point to, her eczema tapered off then was
gone. We are grateful for that. We never thought there was hope of this.
There were lots of secondary infections, inflammations and such that were treated
throughout the years with more drugs than we were happy with at times. None
of my other children have eczema. My nephew does, his is almost as bad as
Sarah's. It's very hard for children to be itchy and have painful spots from
this. I know there are much better/safer steroidal medicines now than when Sarah
was little. I'd use them at least until/if you get it under control.
Incessant itching is a horrible thing to endure.
Good luck to you and your child in getting this ailment under control.
glena
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writes:
> Our daughter drinks way too much milk, so much so that she limits her foodMy oldest daughter (who is now 23) had horrific eczema as a child. Her
> intake but is on the 75% on the charts. Hmmm....
> I call her my vegetarian as she will eat cucumbers,carrots,apples,olives
> celery and others. She will often not eat her meal but pick out the fruits
> and
> veggies. When we visit fast foods she eats the fries and drinks the drink
> and
> gives the baby her chicken nuggets. With the exception of the Eczema she is
> and
> has always been a healthy child. (no ear infections, major colds, broken
> bones
> etc.)
>
> Im rambling but I just wanted to say that the no milk site makes sense to
> me.
>
> Laura D
>
pediatrician was wonderful and always getting me tapes and articles and new
information to try to alleviate her symptoms. He said he had it as a child terribly
and moderately as an adult. He felt his biggest problem as an adult was all
the hand washing he had to do as a doctor.
Sarah was not a milk drinker at all. She did love bubble bath and playing in
the pool. Baths were cut back to a minimum, once a week if possible, just
washing up in the sink daily. A good moisturizer is very important, or was to
my child. The mixed a product at the drugstore for her eucerin cream (which if
available OTC) but added the steroids to it since she was so badly affected
over a large portion of her body those tiny tubes were just not practical.
Also she took two different types of allergy medications, apparently eczema has
an allergic component to it (milk could then be a trigger for some). She tried
allergy shots for several years but could never get up to immunity levels
because of the severity of her allergies, so they had to be stopped.
The doctor had always said while some children just outgrow eczema, he
doubted a case as severe as Sarah's would be left behind at puberty. At about 14
without any change in anything we can point to, her eczema tapered off then was
gone. We are grateful for that. We never thought there was hope of this.
There were lots of secondary infections, inflammations and such that were treated
throughout the years with more drugs than we were happy with at times. None
of my other children have eczema. My nephew does, his is almost as bad as
Sarah's. It's very hard for children to be itchy and have painful spots from
this. I know there are much better/safer steroidal medicines now than when Sarah
was little. I'd use them at least until/if you get it under control.
Incessant itching is a horrible thing to endure.
Good luck to you and your child in getting this ailment under control.
glena
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barefootwisteria
I disagree. There is sufficient evidence to support what I've said.
www.notmilk.com The highest dairy consuming countries (Finland, US,S.
America) have the highest rates of cancer. This is mostly
reproductive cancers. There are a very very few Scandinavian groups
who "tolerate" dairy, but I wouldn't go near saying it's healthy.
As far as it "being natural" NO WHERE in nature will you see any
species, past the age of weaning, nurse from another species EVER.
It's not natural.
I digress though, as a majority of most humans are intolerant to
dairy & the topic is eczema. Dairy products are usually the number 1
cause of skin conditions such as eczema.
w.
--- In [email protected], "nellebelle"
<nellebelle@c...> wrote:
www.notmilk.com The highest dairy consuming countries (Finland, US,S.
America) have the highest rates of cancer. This is mostly
reproductive cancers. There are a very very few Scandinavian groups
who "tolerate" dairy, but I wouldn't go near saying it's healthy.
As far as it "being natural" NO WHERE in nature will you see any
species, past the age of weaning, nurse from another species EVER.
It's not natural.
I digress though, as a majority of most humans are intolerant to
dairy & the topic is eczema. Dairy products are usually the number 1
cause of skin conditions such as eczema.
w.
--- In [email protected], "nellebelle"
<nellebelle@c...> wrote:
> There are human populations that have had dairy as a major foodsource for
> eons. It is no more unnatural to consume dairy than it is to pickfruit
> from a tree or to eat meat or grain. All living creatures eatsomething and
> some eat many things.to
>
> It's certainly worth a try for an individual with certain symptoms
> eliminate milk, as that may be a problem for that individual.
>
> Many others can consume dairy products and not suffer ill effects.
>
> Mary Ellen
barefootwisteria
Yes, many things can cover symptoms & give temporary relief. I say
this gently as I consider such symptoms as eczema to be an early
warning to "pay attention" to what is being eaten. If ignored, I've
seen such things develope into constipation, problems, asthma,
allergies, & the list goes on & on. I get weary of watching
pharmaceutical comapnies rake in $$$ for nothing more than meds. that
cover symptoms without healing. So sad.
There are only a couple of very small caucasian groups who tolerate
dairy (usually from sheep & goats, not cows) & that's about it. Most
all humans have no tolerance for milk products after weaning.
Just for an interesting read, there is Dr. Peter D'Adamo's site who
has done quite a bit of research in digestion & ancestry
www.dadamo.com. Interesting stuff for us unschooling parents.
w.
p.s. I feel bad continuing this via the list as it really could be
considered OT, so if anyone feels the need, feel free to discuss this
with me off list. :)
this gently as I consider such symptoms as eczema to be an early
warning to "pay attention" to what is being eaten. If ignored, I've
seen such things develope into constipation, problems, asthma,
allergies, & the list goes on & on. I get weary of watching
pharmaceutical comapnies rake in $$$ for nothing more than meds. that
cover symptoms without healing. So sad.
There are only a couple of very small caucasian groups who tolerate
dairy (usually from sheep & goats, not cows) & that's about it. Most
all humans have no tolerance for milk products after weaning.
Just for an interesting read, there is Dr. Peter D'Adamo's site who
has done quite a bit of research in digestion & ancestry
www.dadamo.com. Interesting stuff for us unschooling parents.
w.
p.s. I feel bad continuing this via the list as it really could be
considered OT, so if anyone feels the need, feel free to discuss this
with me off list. :)
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/24/03 9:52:54 AM, barefootwisteria@e... writes:
>
> << Topical creams do no good as the skin is our largest elimination
organ >>
>
> Cortisone will help UNTIL other means are in place.
> I had excema as a kid and it was awful. My mom knew diddly (nor
did many
> others) about it then, but as I got older and prescription
Aristocort could at
> least keep it from being painful and help keep me from scratching
it raw, for
> the first time I wasn't just helpless.
>
> Sandra
Mary
I had eczema so bad when I was a kid on my feet I would have to soak my
feet with socks on in water just to get them off. The only thing the Dr.
could think of then was not to wear shoes on me. That was great advice.
It moved around my body for years. I still have it, although not as bad. For
years I was so bad I took nothing but Prednisone. It was the only thing that
kept me from scratching my skin off. Most people just don't understand that
feeling. I had a Dr. who gave me an open scrip and when I was taking it, no
one ever said, or knew I guess, that it wasn't a good thing to do.
Now I use a homeopathic remedy every now and then and use Lansinoh on my
hands when they crack.
Poor Tara got it and so did Sierra. Tara has grown out of it pretty much.
She just recently got a scrip for the new Eladil cream and that works great.
Sierra's has gone away now with homeopathic remedy.
Mary B
feet with socks on in water just to get them off. The only thing the Dr.
could think of then was not to wear shoes on me. That was great advice.
It moved around my body for years. I still have it, although not as bad. For
years I was so bad I took nothing but Prednisone. It was the only thing that
kept me from scratching my skin off. Most people just don't understand that
feeling. I had a Dr. who gave me an open scrip and when I was taking it, no
one ever said, or knew I guess, that it wasn't a good thing to do.
Now I use a homeopathic remedy every now and then and use Lansinoh on my
hands when they crack.
Poor Tara got it and so did Sierra. Tara has grown out of it pretty much.
She just recently got a scrip for the new Eladil cream and that works great.
Sierra's has gone away now with homeopathic remedy.
Mary B
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/24/03 12:56:28 PM, barefootwisteria@... writes:
<< There are only a couple of very small caucasian groups who tolerate
dairy (usually from sheep & goats, not cows) & that's about it. >>
Tibetans aren't Caucasian.
I think their milk source is Yak, but they might have other animals.
It has to do with living in in cold climates, I think.
Sandra
<< There are only a couple of very small caucasian groups who tolerate
dairy (usually from sheep & goats, not cows) & that's about it. >>
Tibetans aren't Caucasian.
I think their milk source is Yak, but they might have other animals.
It has to do with living in in cold climates, I think.
Sandra
coyote's corner
Good for you!! I had eczeme for years on my leg - one leg!
I tried this and that - I had no medical coverage at the time so I was on my own. I tried Shea Butter, exercise and dropped ice cream, cheese and most milk from my diet.
It worked.
Janis
I haven't had it in years.
I tried this and that - I had no medical coverage at the time so I was on my own. I tried Shea Butter, exercise and dropped ice cream, cheese and most milk from my diet.
It worked.
Janis
I haven't had it in years.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] eczema
I had eczema so bad when I was a kid on my feet I would have to soak my
feet with socks on in water just to get them off. The only thing the Dr.
could think of then was not to wear shoes on me. That was great advice.
It moved around my body for years. I still have it, although not as bad. For
years I was so bad I took nothing but Prednisone. It was the only thing that
kept me from scratching my skin off. Most people just don't understand that
feeling. I had a Dr. who gave me an open scrip and when I was taking it, no
one ever said, or knew I guess, that it wasn't a good thing to do.
Now I use a homeopathic remedy every now and then and use Lansinoh on my
hands when they crack.
Poor Tara got it and so did Sierra. Tara has grown out of it pretty much.
She just recently got a scrip for the new Eladil cream and that works great.
Sierra's has gone away now with homeopathic remedy.
Mary B
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barefootwisteria
Right, & what Tibets use is generally fermented milk or the fat & is
nothing in comparison to what Americans use, nor is it probably as
filthy or hormone laden as US dairy product.
Just because a culture uses dairy does not mean it's healthy. Even
African tribes ferment milk with urine and/or blood before
consumption. Yum.
Tolerating a food does not mean it's healthy or a good foodchoice as
some intolerances become the norm as here in the US.
If you have a health issue & consume dairy, it is probably wise to
stop consuming it right away. This would include PMS or menopausal
symptoms to early pubery or other hormonal imbalances, diabetes,
allergies, asthma, constipation...the list goes on & on.
If you insist on using such products, I'd certainly only buy organic.
For the science of what I'm babbling here, please see www.notmilk.com
It's loaded with scienticfic data & interesting *facts*, not opinions.
w.
nothing in comparison to what Americans use, nor is it probably as
filthy or hormone laden as US dairy product.
Just because a culture uses dairy does not mean it's healthy. Even
African tribes ferment milk with urine and/or blood before
consumption. Yum.
Tolerating a food does not mean it's healthy or a good foodchoice as
some intolerances become the norm as here in the US.
If you have a health issue & consume dairy, it is probably wise to
stop consuming it right away. This would include PMS or menopausal
symptoms to early pubery or other hormonal imbalances, diabetes,
allergies, asthma, constipation...the list goes on & on.
If you insist on using such products, I'd certainly only buy organic.
For the science of what I'm babbling here, please see www.notmilk.com
It's loaded with scienticfic data & interesting *facts*, not opinions.
w.
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/24/03 12:56:28 PM, barefootwisteria@e...
writes:
>
> << There are only a couple of very small caucasian groups who
tolerate
>
> dairy (usually from sheep & goats, not cows) & that's about it. >>
>
> Tibetans aren't Caucasian.
> I think their milk source is Yak, but they might have other animals.
>
> It has to do with living in in cold climates, I think.
>
> Sandra
Mary
From: "barefootwisteria" <barefootwisteria@...>
<<Right, & what Tibets use is generally fermented milk or the fat & is
nothing in comparison to what Americans use, nor is it probably as
filthy or hormone laden as US dairy product.>>
Well considering my son will only drink milk I feel pretty awful right about
now.
Mary B
<<Right, & what Tibets use is generally fermented milk or the fat & is
nothing in comparison to what Americans use, nor is it probably as
filthy or hormone laden as US dairy product.>>
Well considering my son will only drink milk I feel pretty awful right about
now.
Mary B
nellebelle
----- >>>>----- Well considering my son will only drink milk I feel pretty awful right about
now.>>>>>>>>>>
Isn't this the same list where umpteen conversations have taken place about trusting children to make the right food choices?
Now some people are saying that milk is poison and nobody should drink it.
I totally agree that some people are healthier when they don't drink milk. Some are allergic to wheat. Some can't tolerate strawberries. That doesn't mean that those foods are poison for everybody.
Mary Ellen
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now.>>>>>>>>>>
Isn't this the same list where umpteen conversations have taken place about trusting children to make the right food choices?
Now some people are saying that milk is poison and nobody should drink it.
I totally agree that some people are healthier when they don't drink milk. Some are allergic to wheat. Some can't tolerate strawberries. That doesn't mean that those foods are poison for everybody.
Mary Ellen
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barefootwisteria
Mary, please don't feel bad or guilty...just be aware. Educate
yourself as much as you can.
Perhaps, if nothing else, go organic. At least you won't get the
hormones. Can't promise anything else though as any high production
dairy product contains blood, pus, & bacteria.
In the meantime, educate yourself & read as much as you can. Tons of
stuff on the internet.
We've become a society who believes the media, no questions asked, &
the dairy industry is a big money maker...for political figures
especially.
w.
--- In [email protected], "Mary" <mummy124@b...>
wrote:
yourself as much as you can.
Perhaps, if nothing else, go organic. At least you won't get the
hormones. Can't promise anything else though as any high production
dairy product contains blood, pus, & bacteria.
In the meantime, educate yourself & read as much as you can. Tons of
stuff on the internet.
We've become a society who believes the media, no questions asked, &
the dairy industry is a big money maker...for political figures
especially.
w.
--- In [email protected], "Mary" <mummy124@b...>
wrote:
> From: "barefootwisteria" <barefootwisteria@e...>is
>
> <<Right, & what Tibets use is generally fermented milk or the fat &
> nothing in comparison to what Americans use, nor is it probably asright about
> filthy or hormone laden as US dairy product.>>
>
>
> Well considering my son will only drink milk I feel pretty awful
> now.
>
> Mary B
barefootwisteria
I'll say this again... If you have a health issue to tend to, look at
what you are eating. The first thing on the list to look at is dairy
consumption. This is followed by other known common allergens such as
wheat, peanuts, certain beeries.
The original topic was eczema which is know to be caused by dairy in
*most* cases.
The proof is in the pudding. Results count, not opinions. For those
interested in healing eczema, allergies, asthma, cancer, diabetes,
constipation,ulcers, etc... I suggest you educate yourself about the
dangers of dairy & go from there.
Please don't listen to me, let a change in diet & those results speak
for themselves.
Most ailments caused from foods like dairy don't show up immediately,
but manifest themselves as allergies, skin problems, digestives
problems, etc... What I have witnessed is that when most all people
stop eating dairy, amazing things hapen. PMS disapears as does
allergies they thought were due to pollen. Certainly other foods can
cause a reaction, but I've never seen reports on strawberry
consumption causing cancer, early puberty, PMS, diabetes, etc...
Pesticides yes...buy organic.
W.
--- In [email protected], "nellebelle"
<nellebelle@c...> wrote:
strawberries. That doesn't mean that those foods are poison for
everybody.
what you are eating. The first thing on the list to look at is dairy
consumption. This is followed by other known common allergens such as
wheat, peanuts, certain beeries.
The original topic was eczema which is know to be caused by dairy in
*most* cases.
The proof is in the pudding. Results count, not opinions. For those
interested in healing eczema, allergies, asthma, cancer, diabetes,
constipation,ulcers, etc... I suggest you educate yourself about the
dangers of dairy & go from there.
Please don't listen to me, let a change in diet & those results speak
for themselves.
Most ailments caused from foods like dairy don't show up immediately,
but manifest themselves as allergies, skin problems, digestives
problems, etc... What I have witnessed is that when most all people
stop eating dairy, amazing things hapen. PMS disapears as does
allergies they thought were due to pollen. Certainly other foods can
cause a reaction, but I've never seen reports on strawberry
consumption causing cancer, early puberty, PMS, diabetes, etc...
Pesticides yes...buy organic.
W.
--- In [email protected], "nellebelle"
<nellebelle@c...> wrote:
>drink milk. Some are allergic to wheat. Some can't tolerate
> I totally agree that some people are healthier when they don't
strawberries. That doesn't mean that those foods are poison for
everybody.
>
> Mary Ellen
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Mary
From: "barefootwisteria" <barefootwisteria@...>
<<Mary, please don't feel bad or guilty...just be aware. Educate
yourself as much as you can.
Perhaps, if nothing else, go organic. At least you won't get the
hormones. Can't promise anything else though as any high production
dairy product contains blood, pus, & bacteria.
In the meantime, educate yourself & read as much as you can. Tons of
stuff on the internet.
We've become a society who believes the media, no questions asked, &
the dairy industry is a big money maker...for political figures
especially.>>
Thing is, people in this house don't drink milk because I think it's good
for them. They (as in Joseph and Alyssa only) drink milk because they like
it. And Joseph has extremely sensitive taste so that if the organic doesn't
taste the same, he won't drink it. Then I have to think if it's important
enough "to me" to "force" him to stop. Alyssa drinks other things but Joseph
pretty much will only drink milk. At least for right now. His tastes may
change as they usually do, they may not. Educationg myself won't really help
much unless I'm willing to "make" my kid not do something he likes to do.
Mary B
<<Mary, please don't feel bad or guilty...just be aware. Educate
yourself as much as you can.
Perhaps, if nothing else, go organic. At least you won't get the
hormones. Can't promise anything else though as any high production
dairy product contains blood, pus, & bacteria.
In the meantime, educate yourself & read as much as you can. Tons of
stuff on the internet.
We've become a society who believes the media, no questions asked, &
the dairy industry is a big money maker...for political figures
especially.>>
Thing is, people in this house don't drink milk because I think it's good
for them. They (as in Joseph and Alyssa only) drink milk because they like
it. And Joseph has extremely sensitive taste so that if the organic doesn't
taste the same, he won't drink it. Then I have to think if it's important
enough "to me" to "force" him to stop. Alyssa drinks other things but Joseph
pretty much will only drink milk. At least for right now. His tastes may
change as they usually do, they may not. Educationg myself won't really help
much unless I'm willing to "make" my kid not do something he likes to do.
Mary B
barefootwisteria
Is there something wrong with not allowing your child to consume
something that is harmful? If left to his own devices, my son would
eat sugar all day. It's ok to say "no". If you educate yourself, &
your conclusion is that dairy is harmful to your children, don't buy
it.
I am the adult & the parent. I make the decisions as to what my
children eat, just as I guide them in what they view via TV, media,
movies, reading material, etc...
I'd not let my child consume something that wasn't healthy for him
simply because he loves it.
Again, I don't want to sound condescending, but I'm not sure I'm
understanding you clearly. It's perfectly ok to refuse a child
something that may be harmful.No one in this house would get dairy
anymore than I'd allow them to have cigarettes or white sugar.
w.
--- In [email protected], "Mary" <mummy124@b...>
wrote:
Educationg myself won't really help
something that is harmful? If left to his own devices, my son would
eat sugar all day. It's ok to say "no". If you educate yourself, &
your conclusion is that dairy is harmful to your children, don't buy
it.
I am the adult & the parent. I make the decisions as to what my
children eat, just as I guide them in what they view via TV, media,
movies, reading material, etc...
I'd not let my child consume something that wasn't healthy for him
simply because he loves it.
Again, I don't want to sound condescending, but I'm not sure I'm
understanding you clearly. It's perfectly ok to refuse a child
something that may be harmful.No one in this house would get dairy
anymore than I'd allow them to have cigarettes or white sugar.
w.
--- In [email protected], "Mary" <mummy124@b...>
wrote:
Educationg myself won't really help
> much unless I'm willing to "make" my kid not do something he likesto do.
>
> Mary B
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/24/2003 1:12:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jana@... writes:
cannot tolerate cow's milk do fine with goat milk and goat milk products. We
have 2 dairy goats but they are young and they haven't had babies yet. I mostly
got them for bottle feeding orphaned lambs, but thought we'd try the milk
also.
Nancy
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jana@... writes:
> Actually, I have read many reports stating that dairy products are VERY badDoes anyone have an opinion about goat milk? I have heard many people who
> for humans. Esp., w/ all the chemicals, BGH, etc.
> There's a huge difference between an apple and a cow.
>
cannot tolerate cow's milk do fine with goat milk and goat milk products. We
have 2 dairy goats but they are young and they haven't had babies yet. I mostly
got them for bottle feeding orphaned lambs, but thought we'd try the milk
also.
Nancy
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/24/2003 6:16:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:
boys will drink it though.
But goat cheese? Around here, there's no such thing as a salad without goat
cheese. And with roasted red peppers and olive oil on crusty bread? Supper!
~Kelly
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CelticFrau@... writes:
> Does anyone have an opinion about goat milk? I have heard many people whoI don't drink milk. I find it disgusting. Haven't had a sip in 35 years. My
> cannot tolerate cow's milk do fine with goat milk and goat milk products.
> We
> have 2 dairy goats but they are young and they haven't had babies yet. I
> mostly
> got them for bottle feeding orphaned lambs, but thought we'd try the milk
> also.
boys will drink it though.
But goat cheese? Around here, there's no such thing as a salad without goat
cheese. And with roasted red peppers and olive oil on crusty bread? Supper!
~Kelly
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[email protected]
In a message dated 6/24/2003 6:53:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
barefootwisteria@... writes:
~Kelly
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
barefootwisteria@... writes:
> If left to his own devices, my son wouldUh oh.
> eat sugar all day.
~Kelly
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Andrea
At 08:30 PM 6/24/03 +0000, barefootwisteria@... wrote:
society and I am insulted by this statement.
Welcome, my name is Donna and I have three boys, ages almost eleven, 8 and
4. We have always been unschooling in many ways but with the help of this
list we have all been so much happier this past year. I never trusted my
kids completely to make their own choices but after reading here and at
unschooling.com I have made changes in my behaviour that have benefitted my
children enormously. They really can and do make the right choices for them!
Donna Andrea in Nova Scotia
>We've become a society who believes the media, no questions asked, &I don't think you meant it this way (to be charitable) but I am part of
>the dairy industry is a big money maker...for political figures
>especially.
society and I am insulted by this statement.
>Is there something wrong with not allowing your child to consumeI'm guessing you haven't been on the list long :-).
>something that is harmful? If left to his own devices, my son would
>eat sugar all day. It's ok to say "no". If you educate yourself, &
>your conclusion is that dairy is harmful to your children, don't buy
>it.
>
>I am the adult & the parent. I make the decisions as to what my
>children eat, just as I guide them in what they view via TV, media,
>movies, reading material, etc...
Welcome, my name is Donna and I have three boys, ages almost eleven, 8 and
4. We have always been unschooling in many ways but with the help of this
list we have all been so much happier this past year. I never trusted my
kids completely to make their own choices but after reading here and at
unschooling.com I have made changes in my behaviour that have benefitted my
children enormously. They really can and do make the right choices for them!
Donna Andrea in Nova Scotia
Mary
From: "barefootwisteria" <barefootwisteria@...>
<<Is there something wrong with not allowing your child to consume
something that is harmful? If left to his own devices, my son would
eat sugar all day. It's ok to say "no". If you educate yourself, &
your conclusion is that dairy is harmful to your children, don't buy
it.>>
Well at first I would have to say that I don't consider my children to be
ingesting anything harmful. Anything could really be harmful if they had too
much, even water. But I don't tell them they are not allowed and they do
find what and how much works for them. The second I would naturally think to
ask you is how you actually know that your child would eat sugar all day and
then how long would he actually do it afterwards? (I'm hearing groans from
some as I post) Sugar all day for the rest of his life? I'm assuming here
but I would say no he wouldn't.
<<I am the adult & the parent. I make the decisions as to what my
children eat, just as I guide them in what they view via TV, media,
movies, reading material, etc...>>
I don't make the decisions as to what my kids eat, watch, read and play,
they do.
<<I'd not let my child consume something that wasn't healthy for him
simply because he loves it. >>
Again what you see as harmful and what I see as harmful are two different
things.
<<Again, I don't want to sound condescending, but I'm not sure I'm
understanding you clearly. It's perfectly ok to refuse a child
something that may be harmful.No one in this house would get dairy
anymore than I'd allow them to have cigarettes or white sugar.>>
I don't refuse my child things whether I think they are harmful or not. I
talk to them about choices and the why and why nots and they make their own
decisions accordingly. So far it's done us well. I guess I'll keep taking my
chances. <BG>
There are things that my kids will never try. It would be impossible (I
would think) for them to try everything there is. But I won't keep them from
those choices because of what I think. If I did, there would eventually come
a time where I wouldn't be able to do that any longer anyway. This way I
know those decisions will be based on what they want and not what I wanted
and not on what I wouldn't allow them to have.
Mary B
<<Is there something wrong with not allowing your child to consume
something that is harmful? If left to his own devices, my son would
eat sugar all day. It's ok to say "no". If you educate yourself, &
your conclusion is that dairy is harmful to your children, don't buy
it.>>
Well at first I would have to say that I don't consider my children to be
ingesting anything harmful. Anything could really be harmful if they had too
much, even water. But I don't tell them they are not allowed and they do
find what and how much works for them. The second I would naturally think to
ask you is how you actually know that your child would eat sugar all day and
then how long would he actually do it afterwards? (I'm hearing groans from
some as I post) Sugar all day for the rest of his life? I'm assuming here
but I would say no he wouldn't.
<<I am the adult & the parent. I make the decisions as to what my
children eat, just as I guide them in what they view via TV, media,
movies, reading material, etc...>>
I don't make the decisions as to what my kids eat, watch, read and play,
they do.
<<I'd not let my child consume something that wasn't healthy for him
simply because he loves it. >>
Again what you see as harmful and what I see as harmful are two different
things.
<<Again, I don't want to sound condescending, but I'm not sure I'm
understanding you clearly. It's perfectly ok to refuse a child
something that may be harmful.No one in this house would get dairy
anymore than I'd allow them to have cigarettes or white sugar.>>
I don't refuse my child things whether I think they are harmful or not. I
talk to them about choices and the why and why nots and they make their own
decisions accordingly. So far it's done us well. I guess I'll keep taking my
chances. <BG>
There are things that my kids will never try. It would be impossible (I
would think) for them to try everything there is. But I won't keep them from
those choices because of what I think. If I did, there would eventually come
a time where I wouldn't be able to do that any longer anyway. This way I
know those decisions will be based on what they want and not what I wanted
and not on what I wouldn't allow them to have.
Mary B
kayb85
Don't you think that kids instinctively know what they need?
Sheila
Sheila
> Is there something wrong with not allowing your child to consumebuy
> something that is harmful? If left to his own devices, my son would
> eat sugar all day. It's ok to say "no". If you educate yourself, &
> your conclusion is that dairy is harmful to your children, don't
> it.
>
> I am the adult & the parent. I make the decisions as to what my
> children eat, just as I guide them in what they view via TV, media,
> movies, reading material, etc...
liza sabater
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 11:49 AM, barefootwisteria wrote:
I know you mean well ---and even though I am not a medically trained
person --- I have to disagree here. If she has identified wheat as a
problem ALL WHEAT will be a problem, whether processed, sprouted, whole
grain, you name it. I'd stay away from spelt as well.
Most food-based allergic reactions are triggered by a protein compound;
gluten being the culprit in wheat, for example. If you are allergic to
wheat it does not mean you are allergic to all glutens but gluten, as a
marker, will point to other potential problems. So wheat in any guise
will be a problem and maybe, just maybe, other wheat-like allergens or
foods as well (if she is sensitive to wheat she may also have, for
example, grass seasonal allergies).
When people speak of dairy, unfortunately they invariably speak of COW
based products. The lactose in cow-derived products is not only the
most difficult to digest but the most genetically tinkered dairy source
known to humanity. Just because one is allergic to cow-dairy it this
does not mean that one will be allergic to all dairy --sheep and goat
dairy products are viable options. Still I have read of cases where
kids where so sensitive to lactose that they were allergic to their
mother's milk (I read this in a 'Living Without' magazine, btw). So
COW-dairy is another marker but it does not necessarily mean that all
dairy has to be taken away.
been the darling of the GMO industry way before it was cool to eat tofu
in this country. Soy is one of those foods that people really have to
keep an eye out. Acidophilus may be an alternative but I personally
have not researched it enough to give an informed opinion about it.
Evan has soy as a mild allergy marker. What is weird about soy is that,
in the guise of soy milk or flour, it used to trigger an asthma attack
or afflict with IBS for weeks. Not so with tofu. That is, of course,
before we did homeopathy.
That is why I think it is important to know all the allergy markers so
that the medical treatment --whether allopathic or homeopathic -- can
be truly successful. You need to know all that is causing her pain and
how all those allergens interact.
Best,
l i z a
=========================
www.culturekitchen.com
> A good plan isW,
> to take your child off of ALL dairy & use sprouted wheat products like
> Eziekiel Bread or Alvarado St. Bakery items or no wheat, strawbeeies
> for at
> minimum of 90 days & go from there.
I know you mean well ---and even though I am not a medically trained
person --- I have to disagree here. If she has identified wheat as a
problem ALL WHEAT will be a problem, whether processed, sprouted, whole
grain, you name it. I'd stay away from spelt as well.
Most food-based allergic reactions are triggered by a protein compound;
gluten being the culprit in wheat, for example. If you are allergic to
wheat it does not mean you are allergic to all glutens but gluten, as a
marker, will point to other potential problems. So wheat in any guise
will be a problem and maybe, just maybe, other wheat-like allergens or
foods as well (if she is sensitive to wheat she may also have, for
example, grass seasonal allergies).
When people speak of dairy, unfortunately they invariably speak of COW
based products. The lactose in cow-derived products is not only the
most difficult to digest but the most genetically tinkered dairy source
known to humanity. Just because one is allergic to cow-dairy it this
does not mean that one will be allergic to all dairy --sheep and goat
dairy products are viable options. Still I have read of cases where
kids where so sensitive to lactose that they were allergic to their
mother's milk (I read this in a 'Living Without' magazine, btw). So
COW-dairy is another marker but it does not necessarily mean that all
dairy has to be taken away.
> I'd also replenish her friendly bacteria supply with porbiotic (soySoy is another one of those highly allergenic foods because it has been
> based if
> liquid) & see where you are in 3a few weeks...
been the darling of the GMO industry way before it was cool to eat tofu
in this country. Soy is one of those foods that people really have to
keep an eye out. Acidophilus may be an alternative but I personally
have not researched it enough to give an informed opinion about it.
Evan has soy as a mild allergy marker. What is weird about soy is that,
in the guise of soy milk or flour, it used to trigger an asthma attack
or afflict with IBS for weeks. Not so with tofu. That is, of course,
before we did homeopathy.
That is why I think it is important to know all the allergy markers so
that the medical treatment --whether allopathic or homeopathic -- can
be truly successful. You need to know all that is causing her pain and
how all those allergens interact.
Best,
l i z a
=========================
www.culturekitchen.com
Deborah Lewis
***If left to his own devices, my son would
eat sugar all day.***
He might if sugar has been a rare and restricted thing. It works that
way for some people. If a thing has been very limited, when it finally
becomes available it takes a while for them to feel like they've had
enough.
He wouldn't eat sugar all day every day, forever.
My son has lived without restrictions on sweets, TV, movies or reading
material.
Here's a recent story.
Saturday we were expecting some friends and I made a chocolate cake.
Dylan had one piece of cake that day and hasn't had any since. It's
Tuesday and I still have half a cake. It was a good cake too!<g> No one
here is desperate for sweets.
Tonight he asked for brown rice and broccoli. We have pop and potato
chips in the house, corn chips and cake, but he hasn't selected those
things. He's never selected them steadily or to the exclusion of
everything else. Why would he? With lots of choices why would he limit
himself to one thing?
You clearly care about your family's well being. Thinking about their
ability to care about their own well being and happiness is a good thing
too. There is no reason to assume children want to have less happy or
healthy lives than we hope they will have.
Deb L
eat sugar all day.***
He might if sugar has been a rare and restricted thing. It works that
way for some people. If a thing has been very limited, when it finally
becomes available it takes a while for them to feel like they've had
enough.
He wouldn't eat sugar all day every day, forever.
My son has lived without restrictions on sweets, TV, movies or reading
material.
Here's a recent story.
Saturday we were expecting some friends and I made a chocolate cake.
Dylan had one piece of cake that day and hasn't had any since. It's
Tuesday and I still have half a cake. It was a good cake too!<g> No one
here is desperate for sweets.
Tonight he asked for brown rice and broccoli. We have pop and potato
chips in the house, corn chips and cake, but he hasn't selected those
things. He's never selected them steadily or to the exclusion of
everything else. Why would he? With lots of choices why would he limit
himself to one thing?
You clearly care about your family's well being. Thinking about their
ability to care about their own well being and happiness is a good thing
too. There is no reason to assume children want to have less happy or
healthy lives than we hope they will have.
Deb L
liza sabater
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 01:42 PM, SandraDodd@... wrote:
incidences of celiac and wheat allergies per capita in Europe --they
even require by law that celiacs be reimbursed for their gluten-free
foods and most restaurants will have gluten-free breads and pastries
available by request.
vengeance) is CALENDULA. Repeat after me CALENDULA CALENDULA CALENDULA
CALENDULA CALENDULA CALENDULA CALENDULA.
Just rolls off the tip of your tongue, non?
:-)
Liza
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> Scandinavians and BritsYou know what is weird? The Scandinavian countries have the highest
> seem to have a lot of milk and cheese tradition and fewer lactose
> problems.
incidences of celiac and wheat allergies per capita in Europe --they
even require by law that celiacs be reimbursed for their gluten-free
foods and most restaurants will have gluten-free breads and pastries
available by request.
> The "Got Milk?" campaign is pretty evil, because people ofTrust me --better than Cortisone (which makes the itch come back with a
> Mediterranean and
> African descent don't do well drinking milk.
>
> I know the arguments against Cortisone cream, but I also know what
> it's like
> to be a kid with excema.
vengeance) is CALENDULA. Repeat after me CALENDULA CALENDULA CALENDULA
CALENDULA CALENDULA CALENDULA CALENDULA.
Just rolls off the tip of your tongue, non?
:-)
Liza
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kayb85
There are two proteins in cow's milk that people can be allergic to.
One protein is present in both cow and goat milk, the other is only
present in cow milk. That's why some people who are allergic to cow
milk can drink goat milk and other people can't. When you have the
skin prick test done it tells you if you're allergic to one or both
of those proteins but it doesn't tell you which one. So the only way
to know is to try the goat milk and see if you have an allergic
reaction.
Or just get treated homeopathically and drink anything. ;)
Sheila
One protein is present in both cow and goat milk, the other is only
present in cow milk. That's why some people who are allergic to cow
milk can drink goat milk and other people can't. When you have the
skin prick test done it tells you if you're allergic to one or both
of those proteins but it doesn't tell you which one. So the only way
to know is to try the goat milk and see if you have an allergic
reaction.
Or just get treated homeopathically and drink anything. ;)
Sheila
> Does anyone have an opinion about goat milk? I have heard manypeople who
> cannot tolerate cow's milk do fine with goat milk and goat milkproducts. We
> have 2 dairy goats but they are young and they haven't had babiesyet. I mostly
> got them for bottle feeding orphaned lambs, but thought we'd trythe milk
> also.
>
> Nancy
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
liza sabater
Mary and all,
W's recommendation of taking a closer look at your diet is not a bad
idea but, to be more frank this will be the end of your food innocence.
If there are some foods you have been having problems with, you will
kick and scream until it hurts because gosh darn it, it tastes so good.
Wheat is a horrible thing in Evan's digestive tract. It virtually kills
it --he will not have a bowel movement for days, even a week, if we
leave it unattended. And from there, his body reacts so violently to
the reaction that he will have asthma for weeks.
I stopped buying regular bread altogether because he looooooooooves the
smell of freshly baked bread (I'm a chef and love baking). And, to make
matters worse, I was in denial about what wheat does to me as well --it
is said that children are born with allergies that their mothers
develop during their pregnancies. I not only developed an intolerance
to EGGS (I used to eat one almost every day) which I thought was
chronic fatigue syndrome but also developed IBS (which I thought was a
'temporary' bout of gas that lasted 4.5 years) and a rabid Candida
thanks to both WHEAT and COW-DAIRY. Oh, and I had post-partum
depression for 4 years (2 years after Evan, 2 after Aidan) that was
exacerbated by these foods.
How do I know? Under an allopathic doctor they were considered
sensitivities and a psychiatrist said that feeling ill would have made
my depression worse. Under homeopathy, the proving that tackles the
depression is also the one that tackles these three food allergies AND
reactions; meaning IBS, Candida, pp depression (plus a host of other
problems I had like ciatica and amenorrhea).
Am I happy that I cannot have wheat? Let's put it this way, it makes me
sooooo ill, that the way I feel healthy far outweighs my cravings for
the food. I am a human being these days and not a bag of illnesses.
That said, I arm myself with extra doses of homeopathics for the
occasional croissant --and prepare myself emotionally to deal with the
consequences.
Hang in there. Once your family finds what healthy is --not just
means-- they'll learn to love it and honor it. Evan is 6 years old and
will not even touch spelt for fear of the consequences. He has learned
the hard and painful way how to make the choices that are best for him
because he knows how horribly ill he can get.
Best,
Liza
W's recommendation of taking a closer look at your diet is not a bad
idea but, to be more frank this will be the end of your food innocence.
If there are some foods you have been having problems with, you will
kick and scream until it hurts because gosh darn it, it tastes so good.
Wheat is a horrible thing in Evan's digestive tract. It virtually kills
it --he will not have a bowel movement for days, even a week, if we
leave it unattended. And from there, his body reacts so violently to
the reaction that he will have asthma for weeks.
I stopped buying regular bread altogether because he looooooooooves the
smell of freshly baked bread (I'm a chef and love baking). And, to make
matters worse, I was in denial about what wheat does to me as well --it
is said that children are born with allergies that their mothers
develop during their pregnancies. I not only developed an intolerance
to EGGS (I used to eat one almost every day) which I thought was
chronic fatigue syndrome but also developed IBS (which I thought was a
'temporary' bout of gas that lasted 4.5 years) and a rabid Candida
thanks to both WHEAT and COW-DAIRY. Oh, and I had post-partum
depression for 4 years (2 years after Evan, 2 after Aidan) that was
exacerbated by these foods.
How do I know? Under an allopathic doctor they were considered
sensitivities and a psychiatrist said that feeling ill would have made
my depression worse. Under homeopathy, the proving that tackles the
depression is also the one that tackles these three food allergies AND
reactions; meaning IBS, Candida, pp depression (plus a host of other
problems I had like ciatica and amenorrhea).
Am I happy that I cannot have wheat? Let's put it this way, it makes me
sooooo ill, that the way I feel healthy far outweighs my cravings for
the food. I am a human being these days and not a bag of illnesses.
That said, I arm myself with extra doses of homeopathics for the
occasional croissant --and prepare myself emotionally to deal with the
consequences.
Hang in there. Once your family finds what healthy is --not just
means-- they'll learn to love it and honor it. Evan is 6 years old and
will not even touch spelt for fear of the consequences. He has learned
the hard and painful way how to make the choices that are best for him
because he knows how horribly ill he can get.
Best,
Liza
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 04:53 PM, Mary wrote:
> Thing is, people in this house don't drink milk because I think it's
> good
> for them. They (as in Joseph and Alyssa only) drink milk because they
> like
> it. And Joseph has extremely sensitive taste so that if the organic
> doesn't
> taste the same, he won't drink it. Then I have to think if it's
> important
> enough "to me" to "force" him to stop. Alyssa drinks other things but
> Joseph
> pretty much will only drink milk. At least for right now. His tastes
> may
> change as they usually do, they may not. Educationg myself won't
> really help
> much unless I'm willing to "make" my kid not do something he likes to
> do.
>
> Mary B
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liza sabater
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 06:49 PM, kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
use Meyenberg Goat Milk because it is not goaty. You can get it here in
NYC either powdered, evaporated and just plain fresh. It has sincerely
saved my sad Puerto Rican ass every morning. And I have learned so much
about goat cheeses (NYC being the culinary capital of the world) that I
am putting together a list of goat cheese alternatives to cow products
--because not all goat cheeses are made the same. Oh, and as to yogurt,
Redwood Hill Farms rules!
l i z a
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> I don't drink milk. I find it disgusting. Haven't had a sip in 35My grandmother used to say that cafe is not cafe unless it has leche. I
> years. My
> boys will drink it though.
>
> But goat cheese? Around here, there's no such thing as a salad without
> goat
> cheese. And with roasted red peppers and olive oil on crusty bread?
> Supper!
>
> ~Kelly
use Meyenberg Goat Milk because it is not goaty. You can get it here in
NYC either powdered, evaporated and just plain fresh. It has sincerely
saved my sad Puerto Rican ass every morning. And I have learned so much
about goat cheeses (NYC being the culinary capital of the world) that I
am putting together a list of goat cheese alternatives to cow products
--because not all goat cheeses are made the same. Oh, and as to yogurt,
Redwood Hill Farms rules!
l i z a
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www.culturekitchen.com
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