Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Rank (was Re: Tea Party was: Two Questions)
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bunsofaluminum60@... writes:
<< Rank? I never even THOUGHT of rank before this thread. >>
I never did really, either. Rank....I don't care if your the Pope, or the
President, if I have issues with you, you're gonna hear about it~~ ( And I have
issues with both of them!)
If someone thinks they have rank or authority over me, they better think
again about whether *I* gave it to them, or not, because they can't assume
anything. For example, I didn't vote for Bush and I'm not Catholic!! Mua ha ha ha
ha.......
Respect needs to be earned, not expected.
~Aimee
<< Rank? I never even THOUGHT of rank before this thread. >>
I never did really, either. Rank....I don't care if your the Pope, or the
President, if I have issues with you, you're gonna hear about it~~ ( And I have
issues with both of them!)
If someone thinks they have rank or authority over me, they better think
again about whether *I* gave it to them, or not, because they can't assume
anything. For example, I didn't vote for Bush and I'm not Catholic!! Mua ha ha ha
ha.......
Respect needs to be earned, not expected.
~Aimee
Have A Nice Day!
Respect needs to be earned, not expected.
Gotta say I agree with this.
My parents always expected respect, even when they didn't earn it.
I refuse to live that way. I don't care who a person is, they will *earn* my respect.
Those who earn my respect (who I also may not know personally) would include people who have had to earn their own way from the bottom up.
I dont necessarily respect the President or the Queen of England just bec. of their title or the fact that someone else thought they'd be a great leader. And if I were invited into their presence and did not respect them, I'd probably decline the invitation, with an explanation to make my point.
As for employers, I may or may not respect my boss, but the choice to show respect has more to do with whether or not I value my job.
I suppose you could argue that the boss has rank and the power to fire me, so I have to show them respect or lose my job. But in reality, the choice to show respect, and my reasons for doing it are entirely MINE.
Kristen
Gotta say I agree with this.
My parents always expected respect, even when they didn't earn it.
I refuse to live that way. I don't care who a person is, they will *earn* my respect.
Those who earn my respect (who I also may not know personally) would include people who have had to earn their own way from the bottom up.
I dont necessarily respect the President or the Queen of England just bec. of their title or the fact that someone else thought they'd be a great leader. And if I were invited into their presence and did not respect them, I'd probably decline the invitation, with an explanation to make my point.
As for employers, I may or may not respect my boss, but the choice to show respect has more to do with whether or not I value my job.
I suppose you could argue that the boss has rank and the power to fire me, so I have to show them respect or lose my job. But in reality, the choice to show respect, and my reasons for doing it are entirely MINE.
Kristen
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From: AimeeL73@...
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Rank (was Re: Tea Party was: Two Questions)
bunsofaluminum60@... writes:
<< Rank? I never even THOUGHT of rank before this thread. >>
I never did really, either. Rank....I don't care if your the Pope, or the
President, if I have issues with you, you're gonna hear about it~~ ( And I have
issues with both of them!)
If someone thinks they have rank or authority over me, they better think
again about whether *I* gave it to them, or not, because they can't assume
anything. For example, I didn't vote for Bush and I'm not Catholic!! Mua ha ha ha
ha.......
Respect needs to be earned, not expected.
~Aimee
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In a message dated 6/16/03 2:31:13 PM, AimeeL73@... writes:
<< Rank....I don't care if your the Pope, or the
President, if I have issues with you, you're gonna hear about it~~ ( And I
have
issues with both of them!) >>
Not if they don't choose to listen they won't hear about it!
<<If someone thinks they have rank or authority over me, they better think
again about whether *I* gave it to them, or not, because they can't assume
anything. >>
There are lots of people with rank and authority over you, and there would be
no matter where you lived. You can't be human and escape it.
<<Respect needs to be earned, not expected.>>
Unless you earned their respect they would never have to hear your opinion.
And if your opening move were anywhere in the range of not acknowledging
their rank, you couldn't earn their respect.
Sandra
<< Rank....I don't care if your the Pope, or the
President, if I have issues with you, you're gonna hear about it~~ ( And I
have
issues with both of them!) >>
Not if they don't choose to listen they won't hear about it!
<<If someone thinks they have rank or authority over me, they better think
again about whether *I* gave it to them, or not, because they can't assume
anything. >>
There are lots of people with rank and authority over you, and there would be
no matter where you lived. You can't be human and escape it.
<<Respect needs to be earned, not expected.>>
Unless you earned their respect they would never have to hear your opinion.
And if your opening move were anywhere in the range of not acknowledging
their rank, you couldn't earn their respect.
Sandra
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In a message dated 6/16/03 2:41:54 PM, litlrooh@... writes:
<< I dont necessarily respect the President or the Queen of England just bec.
of their title or the fact that someone else thought they'd be a great
leader. And if I were invited into their presence and did not respect them, I'd
probably decline the invitation, with an explanation to make my point. >>
Yeah, sure, whatever! BUT if you needed to make an introduction (which was
the original example) would you know how to decide which person, at that
second, was in the position of honor and should have someone introduced to him or
her?
Sandra
<< I dont necessarily respect the President or the Queen of England just bec.
of their title or the fact that someone else thought they'd be a great
leader. And if I were invited into their presence and did not respect them, I'd
probably decline the invitation, with an explanation to make my point. >>
Yeah, sure, whatever! BUT if you needed to make an introduction (which was
the original example) would you know how to decide which person, at that
second, was in the position of honor and should have someone introduced to him or
her?
Sandra
Have A Nice Day!
If I were with someone prominent, yes.
But if I am at a family gathering, I don't worry about who to introduce when, I just do the introductions however they come up.
I'm afraid I may have missed the original example..you might have to refresh my memory.
Kristen
But if I am at a family gathering, I don't worry about who to introduce when, I just do the introductions however they come up.
I'm afraid I may have missed the original example..you might have to refresh my memory.
Kristen
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From: SandraDodd@...
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Rank (was Re: Tea Party was: Two Questions)
In a message dated 6/16/03 2:41:54 PM, litlrooh@... writes:
<< I dont necessarily respect the President or the Queen of England just bec.
of their title or the fact that someone else thought they'd be a great
leader. And if I were invited into their presence and did not respect them, I'd
probably decline the invitation, with an explanation to make my point. >>
Yeah, sure, whatever! BUT if you needed to make an introduction (which was
the original example) would you know how to decide which person, at that
second, was in the position of honor and should have someone introduced to him or
her?
Sandra
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SandraDodd@... writes:
<< Unless you earned their respect they would never have to hear your opinion.
And if your opening move were anywhere in the range of not acknowledging
their rank, you couldn't earn their respect.
Sandra >>
Hmm, that sounds like circular logic to me. I don't think people have to
respect each other's rank in order to hear each other's opinions.
~Aimee
<< Unless you earned their respect they would never have to hear your opinion.
And if your opening move were anywhere in the range of not acknowledging
their rank, you couldn't earn their respect.
Sandra >>
Hmm, that sounds like circular logic to me. I don't think people have to
respect each other's rank in order to hear each other's opinions.
~Aimee
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In a message dated 6/17/03 1:42:45 PM, AimeeL73@... writes:
<< << Unless you earned their respect they would never have to hear your
opinion.
And if your opening move were anywhere in the range of not acknowledging
their rank, you couldn't earn their respect.
Sandra >>
<<Hmm, that sounds like circular logic to me. I don't think people have to
respect each other's rank in order to hear each other's opinions. >>
Read it again more carefully, please.
<< << Unless you earned their respect they would never have to hear your
opinion.
And if your opening move were anywhere in the range of not acknowledging
their rank, you couldn't earn their respect.
Sandra >>
<<Hmm, that sounds like circular logic to me. I don't think people have to
respect each other's rank in order to hear each other's opinions. >>
Read it again more carefully, please.