susan

here's the link to this article
http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/sun/index.html

Lisa Bugg wrote:

> This isn't a bad article, but it does have a few troubling quotes near the
> end. Are there any others seeing unschooling articles in their local
> papers?
>
> The main feature story of today's _San Diego Union-Tribune_ is the
> following:
>
> LEARNING WITHOUT LESSONS Education method shuns texts, tests and timetables
> By Sherry Parmet STAFF WRITER March 26, 2000
>
> Lisa Bugg
> Managing Editor
> www.unschooling.com
>

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In a message dated 03/27/2000 6:11:42 PM !!!First Boot!!!, fxfireob@...
writes:

<<
here's the link to this article
http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/sun/index.html

Lisa Bugg wrote:

> This isn't a bad article, but it does have a few troubling quotes near the
> end. Are there any others seeing unschooling articles in their local
> papers?
>
> The main feature story of today's _San Diego Union-Tribune_ is the
> following:
>
> LEARNING WITHOUT LESSONS Education method shuns texts, tests and timetables
> By Sherry Parmet STAFF WRITER March 26, 2000
>
> Lisa Bugg
> Managing Editor
> www.unschooling.com >>


I thought it was balanced. No way is perfect and I appreciate hearing about
problems encountered even in using a method I think is terrific.

Nance

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In a message dated 3/27/2000 10:11:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
fxfireob@... writes:

<< http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/sun/index.html
>>
Interesting article. I, too, was disturbed by the quotes at the end,
especially Mary Lepperts'... LOL, whom I work for. I would like to see more
unschooling articles. Both the pros and the cons.... I believe unschooling
can stand up to it. I also just love the behind or ahead that everyone keeps
touting, behind or ahead of who's standards? LOL
Teri


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Deborah Smith

I'm totally new to all this - and I found out about it thanks to that
article!
I'd never heard of the term or concept of unschooling but, that's just the
way I've always believed that we should learn. I just didn't know it was
legally possible under the homeschooling laws - I thought you had to be
signed up with somesort of school and have a set curriculim.
Both my kids are currently in a small private school in San Diego. I was
horribly unhappy with the public system and am now even more so with the
private! Thier rules and schedules are so rigid it makes me want to rebel!
My son's teacher this year has been so bad that several parents have pulled
thier children from the school and my son has developed a distaste for
school and learning. What kind of a teacher kills a child's thirst for
knowledge?!
I haven't taken them out yet because I haven't figured out yet how I'm going
to pull this off as a single working parent. I have however, taken the first
step - I changed my career this year to become a travel agent so I could
take them all over the world - not just learn about it from books.
Any single working unschoolers out there? I could use some hints and advice.

~ Thanks!

Deborah

>From: "Lisa Bugg" <LisaBugg@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Unschooling Article in San Diego
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:33:32 -0600
>
>From: "Lisa Bugg" <LisaBugg@...>
>
>This isn't a bad article, but it does have a few troubling quotes near the
>end. Are there any others seeing unschooling articles in their local
>papers?
>
>
>The main feature story of today's _San Diego Union-Tribune_ is the
> following:
>
>LEARNING WITHOUT LESSONS Education method shuns texts, tests and timetables
> By Sherry Parmet STAFF WRITER March 26, 2000
>
>Lisa Bugg
>Managing Editor
>www.unschooling.com
>
>
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In a message dated 03/27/2000 10:37:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
unschoolr2@... writes:

<< >>
Interesting article. I, too, was disturbed by the quotes at the end,
especially Mary Lepperts'... LOL, whom I work for. I would like to see more
unschooling articles. Both the pros and the cons.... I believe unschooling
can stand up to it. I also just love the behind or ahead that everyone keeps
touting, behind or ahead of who's standards? LOL >>

Oh I agree, and I had just told Mary and Michael how cool I thought they
were. Ah well, who knows how things can be taken out of context. The
other thing I noticed was the comments about the gaps in education some teen
unschoolers have. Most everyone has gaps, especially us public schooled
adults, I have these great big huge gaps, holes in fact, where the information
just flowed in long enough to take the test and passed right back out!
Sometimes
I feel like I know nothing (that schools think we should know anyhow!!!)
Overall, I think it was a "balanced" article from a non unschooler
perspective. It surely could have been worse!
Kathy

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I thought it was a pretty decent, balanced article, too, but was also
bothered by some of the quotes. I thought it was kind of crazy when they
talked about the unschooled kids/teens having gaps. They gave the Civil War
as an example. I happen to have an 11 yr old who's obsessed with it and he
can't understand why most of the adults he tries to talk to about it seem to
know almost nothing...all adults who came out of our glorious, comprehensive
public schools. I don't know where they're finding all these public school
graduates who don't have gaps in what they're "supposed" to know.
I know a woman with a B.A. in Art who thought that the Vietnam war took
place immediately after WW2. She is, of course, someone who came out of the
public school system. I always ask, who is supposed to decide what an
"educated" person should know? If it were up to me, I'd like everyone to
read Thoreau, for example, and John Holt. Someone else may feel that we
should all have good hands on survival skills. And so on.
They act like there is one established body of knowledge that, of
course, all thinking people would agree everyone should know, but it's not
true. The public schools themselves vary and change their minds regularly.
And even if the knowledge does get covered and crammed down their throats to
pass a test, it's not remembered because they can't make the child care about
it.
Well, enough ranting...I know I'm preaching to the converted again, as
I've done before...

Lucy in Calif.

Lynda

We watch what hubby's co-workers called the "See How Dumb You Are Show"
otherwise known as Jeopardy. Now, I would say that 99.99999% of the
contestants are ps'ers and the same goes for the other gameshows like "Who
Wants To Be A Millionaire" and "Twenty-One". The kidlets find it amazing
how "ignorant" some (o.k., in their NSHO, most) of the contestants are. I
get at least a half-dozen questions during every show "but didn't they
learn that in school?" and other questions of that ilk.

So, when we have been asked (and it has been rare, I might add) the second
most asked question (socialization being #1), "Don't you worry about gaps
in their learning?" I give them one-of-those looks and tell them I'm
definately NOT worried about it. When one lady got really pushy, youngest
kidlet (7) piped up with "We did better than those kids on Jeopardy and way
better than most of the big people on Millioniare." (she has a low
threshhold for nosey people <g>)

Lynda

----------
> From: LASaliger@...
>
> I thought it was a pretty decent, balanced article, too, but was
also
> bothered by some of the quotes. I thought it was kind of crazy when they

> talked about the unschooled kids/teens having gaps. They gave the Civil
War
> as an example. I happen to have an 11 yr old who's obsessed with it and
he
> can't understand why most of the adults he tries to talk to about it seem
to
> know almost nothing...all adults who came out of our glorious,
comprehensive
> public schools. I don't know where they're finding all these public
school
> graduates who don't have gaps in what they're "supposed" to know.
> I know a woman with a B.A. in Art who thought that the Vietnam war
took
> place immediately after WW2. She is, of course, someone who came out of
the
> public school system. I always ask, who is supposed to decide what an
> "educated" person should know? If it were up to me, I'd like everyone to

> read Thoreau, for example, and John Holt. Someone else may feel that we
> should all have good hands on survival skills. And so on.
> They act like there is one established body of knowledge that, of
> course, all thinking people would agree everyone should know, but it's
not
> true. The public schools themselves vary and change their minds
regularly.
> And even if the knowledge does get covered and crammed down their throats
to
> pass a test, it's not remembered because they can't make the child care
about
> it.
> Well, enough ranting...I know I'm preaching to the converted again,
as
> I've done before...
>
> Lucy in Calif.
>
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