Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The wonderful Census (not)
Debra Bures
we got the long form last time. a nuisance!
debra
debra
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From: "Ron and Stephanie" <ronandstphanie@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 1:51 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] The wonderful Census (not)
> From: "Ron and Stephanie" <ronandstphanie@...>
>
> On one of my lists, a friend of mine got the LONG form for the census. She
> posted wanting to know if she HAD to fill out the entire thing. I am
moving
> to Kansas (Hi Bonnie!) in April, and wanted to know about writing that on
> the form, too, so catch two ?? with one call. The following is what the
> bureau said to do if you feel that you do NOT want to answer all the
> questions. I do cherish my freedom and privacy, so I did this for me too.
> Only one in a few hundred gets the long form.
> Whatever you feel is something that you do not want to fill out write in
> "refuse", "do not know", etc...
> Make a notation that you feel this is something that you are not going to
> answer.
> If you fill out half of the form, they will accept it.
> If you do not fill out half of the form, a census worker will come out to
> you home...
> She also said fill out as much as you want.
>
> I hope that none of you go as beans as my friend is...
> Blessings-
> Stephanie
> Ron and Stephanie
> Life's Learnings Academy
> We REALLY get involved with our children's studies-
> We're Homeschoolers!
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Man, how did you guys get the census so quick? We just got the letter
telling us we were going to get the census in a week, today! How weird is
that? They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa
telling us we were going to get the census in a week, today! How weird is
that? They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa
Ron and Stephanie
<They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!>
Theresa-
My DH said the exact same thing today! We received the note saying that we
are going to get the census, and a return envelope....HUH??? It makes me
want to write a note, put it in their nifty envelope, and send it to them,
letting them know we love the $2 envelope they sent! Grrrrrrr.
Stephanie
who wants to census the government.....
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!>
Theresa-
My DH said the exact same thing today! We received the note saying that we
are going to get the census, and a return envelope....HUH??? It makes me
want to write a note, put it in their nifty envelope, and send it to them,
letting them know we love the $2 envelope they sent! Grrrrrrr.
Stephanie
who wants to census the government.....
Lynda
I believe the envelope has to do with the section of the letter asking
folks if they want part-time work.
Lynda
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folks if they want part-time work.
Lynda
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> From: "Ron and Stephanie" <ronandstphanie@...>we
>
> <They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
> require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
> envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!>
>
> Theresa-
> My DH said the exact same thing today! We received the note saying that
> are going to get the census, and a return envelope....HUH??? It makes methem,
> want to write a note, put it in their nifty envelope, and send it to
> letting them know we love the $2 envelope they sent! Grrrrrrr.
> Stephanie
> who wants to census the government.....
>
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April
Actually, on the back of the letter was a statement in about 8 different
languages saying that if you need the census in another language, check the
box and send it in the enclosed, postage paid envelope. (Having a friend
who is bi-lingual comes in handy every once in a while!). So not quite as
unnecessary as it seems.
April
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:31 PM
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From: HSMOTGO@...
Man, how did you guys get the census so quick? We just got the letter
telling us we were going to get the census in a week, today! How weird is
that? They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa
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languages saying that if you need the census in another language, check the
box and send it in the enclosed, postage paid envelope. (Having a friend
who is bi-lingual comes in handy every once in a while!). So not quite as
unnecessary as it seems.
April
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2000 10:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The wonderful Census (not)
From: HSMOTGO@...
Man, how did you guys get the census so quick? We just got the letter
telling us we were going to get the census in a week, today! How weird is
that? They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa
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In a message dated 03/07/2000 4:04:20 AM !!!First Boot!!!, HSMOTGO@...
writes:
<< They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa >>
Me too!! Now how much $$ did that mailing cost?? I have no problem
personally with the census but what a wasteful snafu!
Nance
writes:
<< They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa >>
Me too!! Now how much $$ did that mailing cost?? I have no problem
personally with the census but what a wasteful snafu!
Nance
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In a message dated 03/07/2000 1:08:08 PM !!!First Boot!!!, abmorris@...
writes:
<< So not quite as
unnecessary as it seems.
April >>
Oh -- now wouldn't a sentence in English explaining that have been nice too.
Thanks for the answer to one of life's little puzzles.
Nance
writes:
<< So not quite as
unnecessary as it seems.
April >>
Oh -- now wouldn't a sentence in English explaining that have been nice too.
Thanks for the answer to one of life's little puzzles.
Nance
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In a message dated 3/7/2000 07:51:27. Eastern Standard Time,
marbleface@... writes:
<< << They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa >>
Me too!! Now how much $$ did that mailing cost?? I have no problem
personally with the census but what a wasteful snafu! >>
The idea with the letter was to send it back if you needed a census form in a
foreign language. There are a bunch of little paragraphs on the back to that
effect in various languages.
Karen, (with Helen, 7, Agent of Chaos, and Gordon, 4, Agent of Destruction)
marbleface@... writes:
<< << They also sent an envelope with the letter, but the letter didn't
require any mail back. The letter was totally unnecessary, as was the
envelope, what a waste of taxpayers money!
Teresa >>
Me too!! Now how much $$ did that mailing cost?? I have no problem
personally with the census but what a wasteful snafu! >>
The idea with the letter was to send it back if you needed a census form in a
foreign language. There are a bunch of little paragraphs on the back to that
effect in various languages.
Karen, (with Helen, 7, Agent of Chaos, and Gordon, 4, Agent of Destruction)
FUN (Billy & Nancy)
Everyone always complains that there aren't good statistics on the number of
homeschoolers in the US. It looks like the Census could have provided some
figures. Anyone else notice that on the long form (I have D2) you are asked
if the person attended "regular school" and the choices are:
No, has not attended
Yes, public school
Yes, private school
In some states, homeschoolers are considered private schools, but in many
others they are not. Calls to the census help line just get me repeated
readings of the definitions and the suggestion that if it is not public
school or private school, then it must be no school.
I'm waiting for a response to my written request for clarification. Actually
I'm sure "Private school" is the appropriate response - after all, what is
more private than a school for family members only? But I hope to make some
people think. Homeschooling doesn't exactly fall under "supported and
controlled primarily by a religious organization or other private group"
unless you want to consider the family a private group.
I've included the census definitions below:
Billy
www.FUN-Books.com
www.unschooling.org
=======================
Part A. SCHOOL ATTENDANCE
Regular School
Advances a person toward an elementary school certificate, a high school
diploma, or a college, university, or professional school (such as law or
medicine) degree. Nursery school and kindergarten are included. Tutoring or
correspondence school should be counted only if credit for it can be
obtained in a "regular school."
May be public, parochial (church-related), or other private. Attendance can
be either by day or night, full time or part time. A school does not have to
be graded to qualify as a "regular" school.
Do not include vocational, trade, or business schools.
Mark the "No, has not attended since February 1" box for people who were not
enrolled in regular school. "On-the-job-training" is not school.
Public School
A PUBLIC SCHOOL is any school which is controlled and supported primarily by
a local, county, state, or federal government. Mark the "Yes, public school
or public college" box for people who have attended a regular school or
college at any time from February 1, 2000 to April 1, 2000.
Private School
A PRIVATE SCHOOL is a parochial or other private school which is supported
and controlled primarily by a religious organization or other private group.
Private schools may be religious or nonreligious elementary schools,
secondary schools, colleges, universities, professional schools, nursery
schools (including preschools and prekindergartens) or Montessori schools.
Mark the "Yes, private school or private college" box for people who have
attended a regular school or college at any time from February 1, 2000 to
April 1, 2000.
===============================
homeschoolers in the US. It looks like the Census could have provided some
figures. Anyone else notice that on the long form (I have D2) you are asked
if the person attended "regular school" and the choices are:
No, has not attended
Yes, public school
Yes, private school
In some states, homeschoolers are considered private schools, but in many
others they are not. Calls to the census help line just get me repeated
readings of the definitions and the suggestion that if it is not public
school or private school, then it must be no school.
I'm waiting for a response to my written request for clarification. Actually
I'm sure "Private school" is the appropriate response - after all, what is
more private than a school for family members only? But I hope to make some
people think. Homeschooling doesn't exactly fall under "supported and
controlled primarily by a religious organization or other private group"
unless you want to consider the family a private group.
I've included the census definitions below:
Billy
www.FUN-Books.com
www.unschooling.org
=======================
Part A. SCHOOL ATTENDANCE
Regular School
Advances a person toward an elementary school certificate, a high school
diploma, or a college, university, or professional school (such as law or
medicine) degree. Nursery school and kindergarten are included. Tutoring or
correspondence school should be counted only if credit for it can be
obtained in a "regular school."
May be public, parochial (church-related), or other private. Attendance can
be either by day or night, full time or part time. A school does not have to
be graded to qualify as a "regular" school.
Do not include vocational, trade, or business schools.
Mark the "No, has not attended since February 1" box for people who were not
enrolled in regular school. "On-the-job-training" is not school.
Public School
A PUBLIC SCHOOL is any school which is controlled and supported primarily by
a local, county, state, or federal government. Mark the "Yes, public school
or public college" box for people who have attended a regular school or
college at any time from February 1, 2000 to April 1, 2000.
Private School
A PRIVATE SCHOOL is a parochial or other private school which is supported
and controlled primarily by a religious organization or other private group.
Private schools may be religious or nonreligious elementary schools,
secondary schools, colleges, universities, professional schools, nursery
schools (including preschools and prekindergartens) or Montessori schools.
Mark the "Yes, private school or private college" box for people who have
attended a regular school or college at any time from February 1, 2000 to
April 1, 2000.
===============================
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I was just filling out the same form, and didn't know which answer to give,
either! I think I will put no school after reading your comments and thinking
it over!
Bridget
New to group-homeschooling Timothy, 13, Christian, 7, Jeremiah, 5, anbd Baby
Emmanuelle, 16 months
either! I think I will put no school after reading your comments and thinking
it over!
Bridget
New to group-homeschooling Timothy, 13, Christian, 7, Jeremiah, 5, anbd Baby
Emmanuelle, 16 months
FUN (Billy & Nancy)
If you read my original post, then you may be interested in the response I
got from the census. First is the message I sent them followed by the
response I received:
My message:
=================
I am hoping you can refer this to the correct department. Since there is no
e-mail address or form provided on the web page for submitting questions
that are not covered in the FAQ's, I am sending this to you as one of the
few e-mail addresses I could find on the site.
On the question of school attendance, (form D2, question 8) it is clear that
our children attend "regular school" as they are in elementary school and
working towards a high school diploma (eventually, one is 3rd grade, the
other 6th). The problem is that the choices for regular school are "public"
or "private".
Our children are homeschooled (along with an estimated 1.5 million other
children in the US - the number is uncertain because many states do not
track the number of homeschoolers). This is definitely not public school,
but it also is not "controlled and supported by a religious organization or
other private group" unless our family is considered a private group.
Several calls to the help line listed on the form did not provide an answer.
They seemed to lean towards "No School" if it wasn't public or private, but
basically just kept repeating the definitions of what the options were.
Should homeschooling be considered private school or should we write in a
new choice?
Billy Greer in Maryland
=======================
Here is the explanation of the choices from your web site:
Part A. SCHOOL ATTENDANCE
Regular School
Advances a person toward an elementary school certificate, a high school
diploma, or a college, university, or professional school (such as law or
medicine) degree. Nursery school and kindergarten are included. Tutoring or
correspondence school should be counted only if credit for it can be
obtained in a "regular school."
May be public, parochial (church-related), or other private. Attendance can
be either by day or night, full time or part time. A school does not have to
be graded to qualify as a "regular" school.
Do not include vocational, trade, or business schools.
Mark the "No, has not attended since February 1" box for people who were not
enrolled in regular school. "On-the-job-training" is not school.
Public School
A PUBLIC SCHOOL is any school which is controlled and supported primarily by
a local, county, state, or federal government. Mark the "Yes, public school
or public college" box for people who have attended a regular school or
college at any time from February 1, 2000 to April 1, 2000.
Private School
A PRIVATE SCHOOL is a parochial or other private school which is supported
and controlled primarily by a religious organization or other private group.
Private schools may be religious or nonreligious elementary schools,
secondary schools, colleges, universities, professional schools, nursery
schools (including preschools and prekindergartens) or Montessori schools.
Mark the "Yes, private school or private college" box for people who have
attended a regular school or college at any time from February 1, 2000 to
April 1, 2000.
Do not assume that the name of the school indicates whether the school is
public or private. Also, payment of tuition at college does not indicate the
school is private.
============================================
Now here is the response I got:
=================================
This is a good one .... but the key to the answer is in the precise wording
of
the questionaire, eg ... has this person attended *regular* school .....
Apparently the mask behind No 8 is to identify those that are in, how can I
put
it, an institutionalized educational setting, ie either a public or private
school. Those selecting the no answer are considered to be in some other
alternative setting. The final tabulations for this table should give a
pretty
good idea on just what this number is, under the assumption that it is most
likely made of a majority in the homeschooling network. By the way,
proceed to
No 9 and mark what you consider the equivilant grade level to be based on
your
judgement/experience.
================================
================================
From the reply I got, it does appear that the expected selection for
homeschoolers is to select that the child is NOT attending school in
question 8, but then to indicate the grade level in question 9. However, I
wouldn't be surprised if submitting the same question several times resulted
in different answers. I don't think homeschoolers were considered when the
question was formulated.
Have fun with your census forms!
Billy
www.FUN-Books.com
www.unschooling.org
got from the census. First is the message I sent them followed by the
response I received:
My message:
=================
I am hoping you can refer this to the correct department. Since there is no
e-mail address or form provided on the web page for submitting questions
that are not covered in the FAQ's, I am sending this to you as one of the
few e-mail addresses I could find on the site.
On the question of school attendance, (form D2, question 8) it is clear that
our children attend "regular school" as they are in elementary school and
working towards a high school diploma (eventually, one is 3rd grade, the
other 6th). The problem is that the choices for regular school are "public"
or "private".
Our children are homeschooled (along with an estimated 1.5 million other
children in the US - the number is uncertain because many states do not
track the number of homeschoolers). This is definitely not public school,
but it also is not "controlled and supported by a religious organization or
other private group" unless our family is considered a private group.
Several calls to the help line listed on the form did not provide an answer.
They seemed to lean towards "No School" if it wasn't public or private, but
basically just kept repeating the definitions of what the options were.
Should homeschooling be considered private school or should we write in a
new choice?
Billy Greer in Maryland
=======================
Here is the explanation of the choices from your web site:
Part A. SCHOOL ATTENDANCE
Regular School
Advances a person toward an elementary school certificate, a high school
diploma, or a college, university, or professional school (such as law or
medicine) degree. Nursery school and kindergarten are included. Tutoring or
correspondence school should be counted only if credit for it can be
obtained in a "regular school."
May be public, parochial (church-related), or other private. Attendance can
be either by day or night, full time or part time. A school does not have to
be graded to qualify as a "regular" school.
Do not include vocational, trade, or business schools.
Mark the "No, has not attended since February 1" box for people who were not
enrolled in regular school. "On-the-job-training" is not school.
Public School
A PUBLIC SCHOOL is any school which is controlled and supported primarily by
a local, county, state, or federal government. Mark the "Yes, public school
or public college" box for people who have attended a regular school or
college at any time from February 1, 2000 to April 1, 2000.
Private School
A PRIVATE SCHOOL is a parochial or other private school which is supported
and controlled primarily by a religious organization or other private group.
Private schools may be religious or nonreligious elementary schools,
secondary schools, colleges, universities, professional schools, nursery
schools (including preschools and prekindergartens) or Montessori schools.
Mark the "Yes, private school or private college" box for people who have
attended a regular school or college at any time from February 1, 2000 to
April 1, 2000.
Do not assume that the name of the school indicates whether the school is
public or private. Also, payment of tuition at college does not indicate the
school is private.
============================================
Now here is the response I got:
=================================
This is a good one .... but the key to the answer is in the precise wording
of
the questionaire, eg ... has this person attended *regular* school .....
Apparently the mask behind No 8 is to identify those that are in, how can I
put
it, an institutionalized educational setting, ie either a public or private
school. Those selecting the no answer are considered to be in some other
alternative setting. The final tabulations for this table should give a
pretty
good idea on just what this number is, under the assumption that it is most
likely made of a majority in the homeschooling network. By the way,
proceed to
No 9 and mark what you consider the equivilant grade level to be based on
your
judgement/experience.
================================
================================
From the reply I got, it does appear that the expected selection for
homeschoolers is to select that the child is NOT attending school in
question 8, but then to indicate the grade level in question 9. However, I
wouldn't be surprised if submitting the same question several times resulted
in different answers. I don't think homeschoolers were considered when the
question was formulated.
Have fun with your census forms!
Billy
www.FUN-Books.com
www.unschooling.org
[email protected]
In a message dated 3/15/00 9:17:06 AM Central Standard Time,
FUNLists@... writes:
<< Anyone else notice that on the long form (I have D2) you are asked
if the person attended "regular school" and the choices are:
No, has not attended
Yes, public school
Yes, private school
was leaning towards No, has not attended but I don't want to open a can of
truancy worms. What did everyone else choose?
KIM
***runs with scissors***
FUNLists@... writes:
<< Anyone else notice that on the long form (I have D2) you are asked
if the person attended "regular school" and the choices are:
No, has not attended
Yes, public school
Yes, private school
>>Yep, I noticed. After some internal debate I chose Yes, private school. I
was leaning towards No, has not attended but I don't want to open a can of
truancy worms. What did everyone else choose?
KIM
***runs with scissors***
[email protected]
i chose has never attended because our superintendent already sent child
protective services to the doors of all the homeschoolers in my district so
what do i have to lose?LOL!
Bridget-New to group-homeschooling mom for 6 years-Tim,13, Christian, 7,
Jeremiah, 5, and Emmanuelle, 16 months
p.s.Kim-everyone in my house runs with scissors!is there a support group for
us all?
protective services to the doors of all the homeschoolers in my district so
what do i have to lose?LOL!
Bridget-New to group-homeschooling mom for 6 years-Tim,13, Christian, 7,
Jeremiah, 5, and Emmanuelle, 16 months
p.s.Kim-everyone in my house runs with scissors!is there a support group for
us all?
metta
on 3/15/00 7:37 PM, bctswim@... at bctswim@... wrote:
--
Thea
metta@...
> i chose has never attended because our superintendent already sent childWhoa! Where do you live? That's awful!
> protective services to the doors of all the homeschoolers in my district so
> what do i have to lose?LOL!
--
Thea
metta@...
Nanci and Thomas Kuykendall
>> protective services to the doors of all the homeschoolers in my district soYeah, ditto.
>> what do i have to lose?LOL!
>
>Whoa! Where do you live? That's awful!
>--
>Thea
>metta@...
Nanci K.
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In a message dated 3/15/00 9:39:20 PM Central Standard Time, bctswim@...
writes:
<< i chose has never attended because our superintendent already sent child
protective services to the doors of all the homeschoolers in my district >>
I hope you're joking, but I'll bet you're not. That is utterly despicable.
It also highlights his/her ignorance of the law. I hope he/she was made to
look like a fool.
Kim-everyone in my house runs with scissors!is there a support group for
us all?
Yes, it meets directly following the group for folks who have put their eye
out while engaging in horseplay, and directly before the group for those who
swim less than an hour after eating. LOL
KIM
***still running***
writes:
<< i chose has never attended because our superintendent already sent child
protective services to the doors of all the homeschoolers in my district >>
I hope you're joking, but I'll bet you're not. That is utterly despicable.
It also highlights his/her ignorance of the law. I hope he/she was made to
look like a fool.
Kim-everyone in my house runs with scissors!is there a support group for
us all?
Yes, it meets directly following the group for folks who have put their eye
out while engaging in horseplay, and directly before the group for those who
swim less than an hour after eating. LOL
KIM
***still running***
[email protected]
long island-new york is the most regulated state i hear for h/s and the
supt'd't can use cps if you're not in compliance-he couldn't have called to
inquire about the paperwork HE lost before sending cps to our door?!!!!
bridget
supt'd't can use cps if you're not in compliance-he couldn't have called to
inquire about the paperwork HE lost before sending cps to our door?!!!!
bridget
Debra Bures
<<he couldn't have called to
inquire about the paperwork HE lost before sending cps to our door?!!!!>>
We always send our paperwork certified, return receipt requested--that way
we've got a signature that shows it's been received--would that work for you
in the future?
Debra
inquire about the paperwork HE lost before sending cps to our door?!!!!>>
We always send our paperwork certified, return receipt requested--that way
we've got a signature that shows it's been received--would that work for you
in the future?
Debra
----- Original Message -----
From: <bctswim@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] The wonderful Census (not)
> From: bctswim@...
>
> long island-new york is the most regulated state i hear for h/s and the
> supt'd't can use cps if you're not in compliance-he couldn't have called
to
> inquire about the paperwork HE lost before sending cps to our door?!!!!
> bridget
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Debra,
we had been hand delivering and having them make a copy for their files while
i was there and i would take home the original. that seemed to work for 6
yrs! then when they lost paperwork, they sent cps to my door. i showed the
investigator my copy and he thanked me but said once his office was called
into a matter, he had to investigate the children's sleeping and eating
areas!! i said i was not letting him in, and letters and phone calls went
back and forth, culminating in having the case declared "unfounded." now i
hand deliver and have each page hand stamped received with the date on it. i
had a bad experience with return receipt once (the signature on it-usually
illegible-is not legal proof that the right party got your paperwork) but
that was not a h/s matter.
Bridget
we had been hand delivering and having them make a copy for their files while
i was there and i would take home the original. that seemed to work for 6
yrs! then when they lost paperwork, they sent cps to my door. i showed the
investigator my copy and he thanked me but said once his office was called
into a matter, he had to investigate the children's sleeping and eating
areas!! i said i was not letting him in, and letters and phone calls went
back and forth, culminating in having the case declared "unfounded." now i
hand deliver and have each page hand stamped received with the date on it. i
had a bad experience with return receipt once (the signature on it-usually
illegible-is not legal proof that the right party got your paperwork) but
that was not a h/s matter.
Bridget
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Kim,
You are too funny! Thanks for the laugh!
Bridget
You are too funny! Thanks for the laugh!
Bridget