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jmcseals SEALS
<<I think what stresses me the most is when I see these families in their
SUV's
or not counting what is in their cart at the store. I know the grass looks
greener on the other side and no I dont want to be them but it all does way
heavy on my heart.>>
(((Laura))),
It IS hard. We spent the first seven years of marriage dirt poor. Lost our
first house to foreclosure and often wondered where our next meal was coming
from. We were renting a house with a terrible landlord and spent three
months in a sewage backup, not having the money to hire an attorney to get
us out. We had a four bedroom home and could only use one room. About that
time, my mom lost her job and didn't want to lose her house, so we moved in
and took over payments, which she didn't send in and now we are in HER
foreclosure.
My husband fell into an high paying job and I really thought things would
turn around for us. I wasn't really worried about getting forced out of
this house because we now have the money to buy any house we want, well
cover the payments, lol. Problem is, we can't get anyone to look at us
because of our credit. Renting/leasing looks even worse. They see our
foreclosure and dumped lease house and won't even consider us, even with a
sizeable downpayment/security deposit.
The other side of the coin is that my husband is NEVER home. Chloe is 7.5
months old and Chis has been home a collective 2 months of that time. I'm
thankful we don't have the financial struggles but the price is too high.
When he's home, Caeleb and Chloe take a few days to warm up to him. I
really believe they don't recognize him when he gets back from trips. Just
when they warm up to him again, he's gone on another trip. We've talked
about him finding another job where he can be home more but he can't find
anything in the middle. It's either this job or something that won't cover
the bills, much less food.
Ironic that you should mention te grocery store outing. The last time I
went grocery shopping, I was standing behind a family of four. Mom, Dad,
and two girls. They were sifting through their coupons and the mom was
adding everything up on the calculator, hoping (aloud) that they wouldn't
have to put anything back. Dad was playing with the baby who was smiling
and cooing at him and the older girl was riding piggyback laughing over his
shoulder. Here I was, the person NOT paying attention to what was in the
cart, wishing like hell I had to count coupons because it would mean my
husband would be there, helping me with the kids, playing with our babies.
It's a double edged sword and it cuts no matter where you touch it.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just fall in the middle? I long to live
in a cooperative community. Commune?? Where everyone shares the load,
barters for what they need and all the families live happily. Is there even
such a place?
Jennifer
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SUV's
or not counting what is in their cart at the store. I know the grass looks
greener on the other side and no I dont want to be them but it all does way
heavy on my heart.>>
(((Laura))),
It IS hard. We spent the first seven years of marriage dirt poor. Lost our
first house to foreclosure and often wondered where our next meal was coming
from. We were renting a house with a terrible landlord and spent three
months in a sewage backup, not having the money to hire an attorney to get
us out. We had a four bedroom home and could only use one room. About that
time, my mom lost her job and didn't want to lose her house, so we moved in
and took over payments, which she didn't send in and now we are in HER
foreclosure.
My husband fell into an high paying job and I really thought things would
turn around for us. I wasn't really worried about getting forced out of
this house because we now have the money to buy any house we want, well
cover the payments, lol. Problem is, we can't get anyone to look at us
because of our credit. Renting/leasing looks even worse. They see our
foreclosure and dumped lease house and won't even consider us, even with a
sizeable downpayment/security deposit.
The other side of the coin is that my husband is NEVER home. Chloe is 7.5
months old and Chis has been home a collective 2 months of that time. I'm
thankful we don't have the financial struggles but the price is too high.
When he's home, Caeleb and Chloe take a few days to warm up to him. I
really believe they don't recognize him when he gets back from trips. Just
when they warm up to him again, he's gone on another trip. We've talked
about him finding another job where he can be home more but he can't find
anything in the middle. It's either this job or something that won't cover
the bills, much less food.
Ironic that you should mention te grocery store outing. The last time I
went grocery shopping, I was standing behind a family of four. Mom, Dad,
and two girls. They were sifting through their coupons and the mom was
adding everything up on the calculator, hoping (aloud) that they wouldn't
have to put anything back. Dad was playing with the baby who was smiling
and cooing at him and the older girl was riding piggyback laughing over his
shoulder. Here I was, the person NOT paying attention to what was in the
cart, wishing like hell I had to count coupons because it would mean my
husband would be there, helping me with the kids, playing with our babies.
It's a double edged sword and it cuts no matter where you touch it.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just fall in the middle? I long to live
in a cooperative community. Commune?? Where everyone shares the load,
barters for what they need and all the families live happily. Is there even
such a place?
Jennifer
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Joan Hulett
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just fall in the middle? I long to live
in a cooperative community. Commune?? Where everyone shares the load,
barters for what they need and all the families live happily. Is there even
such a place?
Hi, Jen,There are some wonderful sites on intentional living communities. I found several through the Wondertree site in BC. Just punch the above description into your google engine and you should find some wonderful support for communal living. The trick, I think, is to find like minded folk near enough that it will work. Also, look for books on simplifying like Extreme simplicity or choosing simplicity. They also talk about communities.Cheers, Joan
jmcseals SEALS <jmcseals@...> wrote:<<I think what stresses me the most is when I see these families in their
SUV's
or not counting what is in their cart at the store. I know the grass looks
greener on the other side and no I dont want to be them but it all does way
heavy on my heart.>>
(((Laura))),
It IS hard. We spent the first seven years of marriage dirt poor. Lost our
first house to foreclosure and often wondered where our next meal was coming
from. We were renting a house with a terrible landlord and spent three
months in a sewage backup, not having the money to hire an attorney to get
us out. We had a four bedroom home and could only use one room. About that
time, my mom lost her job and didn't want to lose her house, so we moved in
and took over payments, which she didn't send in and now we are in HER
foreclosure.
My husband fell into an high paying job and I really thought things would
turn around for us. I wasn't really worried about getting forced out of
this house because we now have the money to buy any house we want, well
cover the payments, lol. Problem is, we can't get anyone to look at us
because of our credit. Renting/leasing looks even worse. They see our
foreclosure and dumped lease house and won't even consider us, even with a
sizeable downpayment/security deposit.
The other side of the coin is that my husband is NEVER home. Chloe is 7.5
months old and Chis has been home a collective 2 months of that time. I'm
thankful we don't have the financial struggles but the price is too high.
When he's home, Caeleb and Chloe take a few days to warm up to him. I
really believe they don't recognize him when he gets back from trips. Just
when they warm up to him again, he's gone on another trip. We've talked
about him finding another job where he can be home more but he can't find
anything in the middle. It's either this job or something that won't cover
the bills, much less food.
Ironic that you should mention te grocery store outing. The last time I
went grocery shopping, I was standing behind a family of four. Mom, Dad,
and two girls. They were sifting through their coupons and the mom was
adding everything up on the calculator, hoping (aloud) that they wouldn't
have to put anything back. Dad was playing with the baby who was smiling
and cooing at him and the older girl was riding piggyback laughing over his
shoulder. Here I was, the person NOT paying attention to what was in the
cart, wishing like hell I had to count coupons because it would mean my
husband would be there, helping me with the kids, playing with our babies.
It's a double edged sword and it cuts no matter where you touch it.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just fall in the middle? I long to live
in a cooperative community. Commune?? Where everyone shares the load,
barters for what they need and all the families live happily. Is there even
such a place?
Jennifer
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in a cooperative community. Commune?? Where everyone shares the load,
barters for what they need and all the families live happily. Is there even
such a place?
Hi, Jen,There are some wonderful sites on intentional living communities. I found several through the Wondertree site in BC. Just punch the above description into your google engine and you should find some wonderful support for communal living. The trick, I think, is to find like minded folk near enough that it will work. Also, look for books on simplifying like Extreme simplicity or choosing simplicity. They also talk about communities.Cheers, Joan
jmcseals SEALS <jmcseals@...> wrote:<<I think what stresses me the most is when I see these families in their
SUV's
or not counting what is in their cart at the store. I know the grass looks
greener on the other side and no I dont want to be them but it all does way
heavy on my heart.>>
(((Laura))),
It IS hard. We spent the first seven years of marriage dirt poor. Lost our
first house to foreclosure and often wondered where our next meal was coming
from. We were renting a house with a terrible landlord and spent three
months in a sewage backup, not having the money to hire an attorney to get
us out. We had a four bedroom home and could only use one room. About that
time, my mom lost her job and didn't want to lose her house, so we moved in
and took over payments, which she didn't send in and now we are in HER
foreclosure.
My husband fell into an high paying job and I really thought things would
turn around for us. I wasn't really worried about getting forced out of
this house because we now have the money to buy any house we want, well
cover the payments, lol. Problem is, we can't get anyone to look at us
because of our credit. Renting/leasing looks even worse. They see our
foreclosure and dumped lease house and won't even consider us, even with a
sizeable downpayment/security deposit.
The other side of the coin is that my husband is NEVER home. Chloe is 7.5
months old and Chis has been home a collective 2 months of that time. I'm
thankful we don't have the financial struggles but the price is too high.
When he's home, Caeleb and Chloe take a few days to warm up to him. I
really believe they don't recognize him when he gets back from trips. Just
when they warm up to him again, he's gone on another trip. We've talked
about him finding another job where he can be home more but he can't find
anything in the middle. It's either this job or something that won't cover
the bills, much less food.
Ironic that you should mention te grocery store outing. The last time I
went grocery shopping, I was standing behind a family of four. Mom, Dad,
and two girls. They were sifting through their coupons and the mom was
adding everything up on the calculator, hoping (aloud) that they wouldn't
have to put anything back. Dad was playing with the baby who was smiling
and cooing at him and the older girl was riding piggyback laughing over his
shoulder. Here I was, the person NOT paying attention to what was in the
cart, wishing like hell I had to count coupons because it would mean my
husband would be there, helping me with the kids, playing with our babies.
It's a double edged sword and it cuts no matter where you touch it.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just fall in the middle? I long to live
in a cooperative community. Commune?? Where everyone shares the load,
barters for what they need and all the families live happily. Is there even
such a place?
Jennifer
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I found these books on an interested website: www.frugaliving.com
Kristin
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Also, look for books on simplifying like Extreme simplicity or choosing simplicity. They also talk about communities.Cheers, Joan
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Kristin
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Also, look for books on simplifying like Extreme simplicity or choosing simplicity. They also talk about communities.Cheers, Joan
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jmcseals SEALS
<<-Robin- who wishes she could bicycle to SC ;-) Hey, that's not such a bad
idea, but
at the speed I bike with the kids, I'd have to leave tomorrow.>>>
Thanks for the laugh! I was thinking I would have had to leave last August!
LOL
Jennifer
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idea, but
at the speed I bike with the kids, I'd have to leave tomorrow.>>>
Thanks for the laugh! I was thinking I would have had to leave last August!
LOL
Jennifer
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