Cheryl

I just joined this list a couple of days ago and have been too
overwhelmed by the abundance of posts to read everything, but this
message stood out for me because I have the opposite situation.

I have a 6yod, too, who is in 1st grade, but she is falling behind in
reading. She has been diagnosed with ADD and the school is saying she
will need a tutor for the summer in order to catch up to the reading
level of her classmates.

I considered homeschooling or unschooling when she was little and
decided to put her in public schools because it was the easy route. I
figured if it didn't work, I could always change tactics later. Well,
it's not working. I want my daughter to learn to read at her own pace. I
don't want her to feel there is something wrong with her because she's
not meeting her school's expectations. She's not dumb by any means, and
I'm worried that if she continues in public school, she will begin to
feel that way.

She loves to read and write when it's on her own terms, usually in
conjunction with some art project that she has come up with, but she
dreads the homework from school. I'm not sure I can get through the rest
of the school year without losing my mind. I'm tired of struggling with
her every night to do her homework. I'm tired of struggling with her
every morning to get ready for school.

I just want to stop; I want out of the stress. I want to get the public
school environment out of our house, out of our family life. I want to
love my kids for who they are and I want to be able to stop focussing on
who they aren't. I find myself getting so aggravated by the whole
situation that sometimes I actually wish for medication that might help
my daughter pay attention to what the school wants her to pay attention
to. When I find myself wanting to medicate her, which is the last place
I want to go, I know something major has to change.

I trust that life will teach her what she needs to know. I hate to see
her love for learning disappear. So I'm thinking some form of
homeschooling or unschooling might be the answer, but I don't want her
to feel isolated from the world and from friends. How do I find other
families in my area who are doing this, too?

Thanks for any advice.
Cheryl


> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:42:07 -0400
> From: "Art Nouveau" <Inanna1957@...>
>Subject: intro
>
>Hello everyone! I belong to three other homeschooling groups, but I am an
>unschooler. My 6 yo dd is in Grade 1 and has a huge vocabulary and reads at
>a Grade 4 level. She also loves Natural Science, French and Arts & Crafts,
>and is beginning to develop an appreciation for Math too :) The three of us
>live in an ancient house in a large town in southern Ontario, Canada. Hope
>to meet you all soon!
>
>Cerridwen )O(
>
>

Nora or Devereaux Cannon

"So I'm thinking some form of
homeschooling or unschooling might be the answer, but I don't
want her
to feel isolated from the world and from friends. How do I find
other
families in my area who are doing this, too?"

Go places during "school hours". The happy kids you find are not
in school then. In my experience, morning hours are more likely
to be unschoolers - afternoon homeschoolers, but YMMV.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheryl" <lettersat3am@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Daughter falling behind in public
school


| I just joined this list a couple of days ago and have been too
| overwhelmed by the abundance of posts to read everything, but
this
| message stood out for me because I have the opposite situation.
|
| I have a 6yod, too, who is in 1st grade, but she is falling
behind in
| reading. She has been diagnosed with ADD and the school is
saying she
| will need a tutor for the summer in order to catch up to the
reading
| level of her classmates.
|
| I considered homeschooling or unschooling when she was little
and
| decided to put her in public schools because it was the easy
route. I
| figured if it didn't work, I could always change tactics later.
Well,
| it's not working. I want my daughter to learn to read at her
own pace. I
| don't want her to feel there is something wrong with her
because she's
| not meeting her school's expectations. She's not dumb by any
means, and
| I'm worried that if she continues in public school, she will
begin to
| feel that way.
|
| She loves to read and write when it's on her own terms, usually
in
| conjunction with some art project that she has come up with,
but she
| dreads the homework from school. I'm not sure I can get through
the rest
| of the school year without losing my mind. I'm tired of
struggling with
| her every night to do her homework. I'm tired of struggling
with her
| every morning to get ready for school.
|
| I just want to stop; I want out of the stress. I want to get
the public
| school environment out of our house, out of our family life. I
want to
| love my kids for who they are and I want to be able to stop
focussing on
| who they aren't. I find myself getting so aggravated by the
whole
| situation that sometimes I actually wish for medication that
might help
| my daughter pay attention to what the school wants her to pay
attention
| to. When I find myself wanting to medicate her, which is the
last place
| I want to go, I know something major has to change.
|
| I trust that life will teach her what she needs to know. I hate
to see
| her love for learning disappear. So I'm thinking some form of
| homeschooling or unschooling might be the answer, but I don't
want her
| to feel isolated from the world and from friends. How do I find
other
| families in my area who are doing this, too?
|
| Thanks for any advice.
| Cheryl
|
|
| > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:42:07 -0400
| > From: "Art Nouveau" <Inanna1957@...>
| >Subject: intro
| >
| >Hello everyone! I belong to three other homeschooling groups,
but I am an
| >unschooler. My 6 yo dd is in Grade 1 and has a huge vocabulary
and reads at
| >a Grade 4 level. She also loves Natural Science, French and
Arts & Crafts,
| >and is beginning to develop an appreciation for Math too :)
The three of us
| >live in an ancient house in a large town in southern Ontario,
Canada. Hope
| >to meet you all soon!
| >
| >Cerridwen )O(
| >
| >
|
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Cheryl,
Where are you?
Jinger in Idaho
----- Original Message -----
From: Cheryl
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Daughter falling behind in public school


I just joined this list a couple of days ago and have been too
overwhelmed by the abundance of posts to read everything, but this
message stood out for me because I have the opposite situation.

I have a 6yod, too, who is in 1st grade, but she is falling behind in
reading. She has been diagnosed with ADD and the school is saying she
will need a tutor for the summer in order to catch up to the reading
level of her classmates.

I considered homeschooling or unschooling when she was little and
decided to put her in public schools because it was the easy route. I
figured if it didn't work, I could always change tactics later. Well,
it's not working. I want my daughter to learn to read at her own pace. I
don't want her to feel there is something wrong with her because she's
not meeting her school's expectations. She's not dumb by any means, and
I'm worried that if she continues in public school, she will begin to
feel that way.

She loves to read and write when it's on her own terms, usually in
conjunction with some art project that she has come up with, but she
dreads the homework from school. I'm not sure I can get through the rest
of the school year without losing my mind. I'm tired of struggling with
her every night to do her homework. I'm tired of struggling with her
every morning to get ready for school.

I just want to stop; I want out of the stress. I want to get the public
school environment out of our house, out of our family life. I want to
love my kids for who they are and I want to be able to stop focussing on
who they aren't. I find myself getting so aggravated by the whole
situation that sometimes I actually wish for medication that might help
my daughter pay attention to what the school wants her to pay attention
to. When I find myself wanting to medicate her, which is the last place
I want to go, I know something major has to change.

I trust that life will teach her what she needs to know. I hate to see
her love for learning disappear. So I'm thinking some form of
homeschooling or unschooling might be the answer, but I don't want her
to feel isolated from the world and from friends. How do I find other
families in my area who are doing this, too?

Thanks for any advice.
Cheryl


> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:42:07 -0400
> From: "Art Nouveau" <Inanna1957@...>
>Subject: intro
>
>Hello everyone! I belong to three other homeschooling groups, but I am an
>unschooler. My 6 yo dd is in Grade 1 and has a huge vocabulary and reads at
>a Grade 4 level. She also loves Natural Science, French and Arts & Crafts,
>and is beginning to develop an appreciation for Math too :) The three of us
>live in an ancient house in a large town in southern Ontario, Canada. Hope
>to meet you all soon!
>
>Cerridwen )O(
>
>



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[email protected]

In a message dated 4/30/03 2:47:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lettersat3am@... writes:

> . How do I find other
> families in my area who are doing this, too?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
> Cheryl
>
>
>

Hi Cheryl and welcome to the list. It would help if we knew where you lived.
Pam G.


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[email protected]

In a message dated 4/30/03 12:47:02 PM, lettersat3am@... writes:

<< I'm not sure I can get through the rest

of the school year without losing my mind. >>

You don't have to. You can take her out right now. What state are you in?

<<So I'm thinking some form of

homeschooling or unschooling might be the answer, but I don't want her

to feel isolated from the world and from friends.>>>

Most kids have way more enemies and tormenters at school than they have
friends.

Release her from being imprisoned with torment and enemies.

Read this to feel better about the reading, and don't send her to school
tomorrow.

http://sandradodd.com/reading

<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/reading">Learning to Read Naturally</A>


Sandra

Joanne Shrestha

Hello to all - I am new to this group - I felt the urge to respond to Cheryl's posting .... so here goes!
I have 3 kids: boy - 9; girl - 7 & boy - 5. I started homeschooling (& deschooling) them 2 years ago because my then 2nd grade son did not meet the schools reading level requirements. They told me "he is above average on most of the other areas, however since he cannot read well he does not produce enough work to pass". They wanted to hold him back in 2nd grade again. No way. How boring would that be for him? And how stupid of them to think this would help him learn to read better? He was also always getting in trouble for making "doodles" on his worksheets instead of doing the work.

We have been out of the ps system for 2 years now & I am happy to report, things are going great. Since my younger two were never in school - they are fine. My oldest, who according to the ps had reading problems, is reading away!!!! He LOVES to read now - the trick was to let him work at his own pace (unschooling :o) and to let him read what he likes (Harry Potter! -- he can't put the books down!!). His doodles have improved too - he is a far better artist than anyone in the house. I bought him an M.C. Escher book & he took off from there. Had I left him in ps, we might not have discovered this talent (he surely would have still been getting in trouble for it!!!).

I am a firm believer that children belong at home with Mom & Dad showing them the ropes - my son tells me all the time how he is so glad he is not going to ps anymore. If only I had realized my true feelings before he was forced through 3 years of ps. My other children are very happy too. They love being able to stay with me all day (and I feel I am very blessed to have them with me all day).

If you do not like how things are going, you should follow your gut. You are her mother & mother knows best! It sounds like things are pretty stressful for her (and you) -- if it continues in this way, she might start shutting down / blocking out what is bothering her. Maybe ... just a thought.

Hope that helps,

Joanne from Nebraska

Cheryl <lettersat3am@...> wrote:I just joined this list a couple of days ago and have been too
overwhelmed by the abundance of posts to read everything, but this
message stood out for me because I have the opposite situation.

I have a 6yod, too, who is in 1st grade, but she is falling behind in
reading. She has been diagnosed with ADD and the school is saying she
will need a tutor for the summer in order to catch up to the reading
level of her classmates.

I considered homeschooling or unschooling when she was little and
decided to put her in public schools because it was the easy route. I
figured if it didn't work, I could always change tactics later. Well,
it's not working. I want my daughter to learn to read at her own pace. I
don't want her to feel there is something wrong with her because she's
not meeting her school's expectations. She's not dumb by any means, and
I'm worried that if she continues in public school, she will begin to
feel that way.

She loves to read and write when it's on her own terms, usually in
conjunction with some art project that she has come up with, but she
dreads the homework from school. I'm not sure I can get through the rest
of the school year without losing my mind. I'm tired of struggling with
her every night to do her homework. I'm tired of struggling with her
every morning to get ready for school.

I just want to stop; I want out of the stress. I want to get the public
school environment out of our house, out of our family life. I want to
love my kids for who they are and I want to be able to stop focussing on
who they aren't. I find myself getting so aggravated by the whole
situation that sometimes I actually wish for medication that might help
my daughter pay attention to what the school wants her to pay attention
to. When I find myself wanting to medicate her, which is the last place
I want to go, I know something major has to change.

I trust that life will teach her what she needs to know. I hate to see
her love for learning disappear. So I'm thinking some form of
homeschooling or unschooling might be the answer, but I don't want her
to feel isolated from the world and from friends. How do I find other
families in my area who are doing this, too?

Thanks for any advice.
Cheryl


> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:42:07 -0400
> From: "Art Nouveau" <Inanna1957@...>
>Subject: intro
>
>Hello everyone! I belong to three other homeschooling groups, but I am an
>unschooler. My 6 yo dd is in Grade 1 and has a huge vocabulary and reads at
>a Grade 4 level. She also loves Natural Science, French and Arts & Crafts,
>and is beginning to develop an appreciation for Math too :) The three of us
>live in an ancient house in a large town in southern Ontario, Canada. Hope
>to meet you all soon!
>
>Cerridwen )O(
>
>


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In a message dated 4/30/2003 6:00:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcannon@... writes:
> Go places during "school hours". The happy kids you find are not
> in school then. In my experience, morning hours are more likely
> to be unschoolers - afternoon homeschoolers, but YMMV.

That's funny. The unschoolers *I* know don't get out of bed until noon! The
school-at-homers (doh!) aren't finished with school until noon. *I'm* the
only one out before 12:00!!!

~Kelly, who gets REALLY crabby when she's not home by 3:00


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Tia Leschke

>
> Go places during "school hours". The happy kids you find are not
> in school then. In my experience, morning hours are more likely
> to be unschoolers - afternoon homeschoolers, but YMMV.

Unschoolers out in the morning? They're *up* then? Oh, you mean *younger*
unschoolers. <g> Mine's working this week and getting up at 5:30, but his
normal time to fall out of the sack is somewhere between 11 am and 1 pm.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

Nora or Devereaux Cannon

LOL - that's true as they get older - but she's looking for a 6
yo type friend - any time after 9:30, mine is usually up (though
not always).
----- Original Message -----
From: <kbcdlovejo@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Daughter falling behind in
public school


| In a message dated 4/30/2003 6:00:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
| dcannon@... writes:
| > Go places during "school hours". The happy kids you find are
not
| > in school then. In my experience, morning hours are more
likely
| > to be unschoolers - afternoon homeschoolers, but YMMV.
|
| That's funny. The unschoolers *I* know don't get out of bed
until noon! The
| school-at-homers (doh!) aren't finished with school until noon.
*I'm* the
| only one out before 12:00!!!
|
| ~Kelly, who gets REALLY crabby when she's not home by 3:00
|
|
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Have a Nice Day!

LOL!!

I'm one of the "get out of bed at noon" people...literally. But then we are always up very late at night.

Works for us!

Kristen
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To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Daughter falling behind in public school


In a message dated 4/30/2003 6:00:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcannon@... writes:
> Go places during "school hours". The happy kids you find are not
> in school then. In my experience, morning hours are more likely
> to be unschoolers - afternoon homeschoolers, but YMMV.

That's funny. The unschoolers *I* know don't get out of bed until noon! The
school-at-homers (doh!) aren't finished with school until noon. *I'm* the
only one out before 12:00!!!

~Kelly, who gets REALLY crabby when she's not home by 3:00


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In a message dated 4/30/2003 6:24:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcannon@... writes:
> LOL - that's true as they get older - but she's looking for a 6
> yo type friend - any time after 9:30, mine is usually up (though
> not always).

I have a 15 year old who sleeps 'til 10-ish and a *just* seven year old who's
up between 7 & 8:00.

Duncan watches cartoons or (now) swims until it's late enough to call a
friend. I try to keep him off the phone until AT LEAST 10:00---and sometimes
he'll still wake someone up then!

~Kelly, doomed to wander in a homeschooling no-where-land before noon!


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zenmomma2kids

--- In [email protected], Cheryl <lettersat3am@n...>
wrote:
>> I just want to stop; I want out of the stress. I want to get the
public school environment out of our house, out of our family life. I
want to love my kids for who they are and I want to be able to stop
focussing on who they aren't.>>

Listen to your heart, Cheryl. It's as simple as that. Just don't
bring her back to school tomorrow. Let them know she will be
homeschooling from now on. Lots of us here have done just that. It
really is that easy to get back to a sane, joyous, healthy lifestyle
for your family.

>> I trust that life will teach her what she needs to know.>>

Yes! Unschooling will allow her to unfold and blossom at her own
rate. Don't make her spend another day in a school system that is
hurting her. Get her out of there and start living your life together
NOW without the interference of school.

>>So I'm thinking some form of homeschooling or unschooling might be
the answer, but I don't want her to feel isolated from the world and
from friends. How do I find other families in my area who are doing
this, too?>>

Where do you live? There are lots of homeschooling groups around. We
can help you find them.

Life is good.
~Mary

Heidi

--- In [email protected], Have a Nice Day!
<litlrooh@c...> wrote:
> LOL!!
>
> I'm one of the "get out of bed at noon" people...literally. But
then we are always up very late at night.
>
> Works for us!

Sheesh, you people! Haven't you ever heard the old wise saying "Early
to bed, early to rise....makes you miss all the regular guys..."


LOL

Heidi

sablehs

Heidi <bunsofaluminum60@...> wrote:

--- In [email protected], Have a Nice Day!
<litlrooh@c...> wrote:
> LOL!!
>
> I'm one of the "get out of bed at noon" people...literally. But
then we are always up very late at night.
>
> Works for us!

Sheesh, you people! Haven't you ever heard the old wise saying "Early
to bed, early to rise....makes you miss all the regular guys..."
LOL>>


Yep just how i met my unregular husband. Being out and up late. I don't go out much anymore cause we are pretty happy staying up together. Especially after the kids finally fall asleep. :-b

Tracy


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Welcome Joanne! What a great story! THanks for sharing. :)

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Barb Eaton

Ren,
This one is a keeper of the whole thing. Thank you! This is so
beautiful. It reminded me of when I took my ds out. Watching him come back
to himSelf. :-) My only regret, Not Doing It Sooner!


Barb E
"The function of the child is to live his own life - not the life that his
anxious parents think he should live."
A S Neill




on 4/30/03 5:13 PM, [email protected] at
[email protected] wrote:
One that embraces your dd for exactly who she is
> and what she loves TODAY.
>
> Ren

nellebelle

----- snip----- In my experience, morning hours are more likely
> to be unschoolers - afternoon homeschoolers, but YMMV.>>>>>>>>

I don't know what YMMV means, but we are more likely to get out of the house
and do stuff in the afternoon, than the morning. We tend to stay up later
and get up later than some.

I think I know what you mean though. Lots of home"schoolers" do their
school work in the morning, Monday through Thursday, at least around here.
So they like to schedule their "fun" in the afternoons or on Fridays.

Mary Ellen