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In a message dated 4/28/03 4:24:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
karen@... writes:

> Enjoy your nursing - IMO it only gets better. My 3 year old will be nursing
> forever - she's sure it's not only her privilage but her 'right'. She
> loves it and so do I.
>
>

My 6 year old says the same thing.
Pam G.


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Mary

From: "kbolden" <kbolden@...>

<< I never knew anyone else this happened to ... of course, no one else in
my family ever nursed their kids. I was so confounded when ds weaned
himself, I wrote a story about it. Mothering magazine is going to publish it
this year sometime :-P>>


I'm sorry you had the same experience. At least I know it wasn't just
me.(sigh) I was heartbroken when Alyssa stopped nursing. I must have asked
her for days afterwards. My husband finally looked at me and said, "Stop,
you're pushing. She doesn't want to nurse." He wasn't trying to be mean,
just saw I was getting crazy with it. I cried. I still have dreams of Alyssa
of nursing.

Mary B

Tia Leschke

> Enjoy your nursing - IMO it only gets better. My 3 year old will be
nursing forever - she's sure it's not only her privilage but her 'right'.
She loves it and so do I.

I love it when they can talk about it. My grandson was telling my daughter
that it was *his* booby the other day. She told him it was hers. Uh uh.
*Dat* your booby (pointing to the other one). One night she was dying for
some sleep, so she told him the boobies had to sleep. He wasn't buying it.
The *other* one could sleep while he had that one. <g>
Tia

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saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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> I love it when they can talk about it

So true , Tia, so do I . When my son was 2.5 years, he was nursing, and sat
up and looked at me. He said softly"Mom, your nipple is round, like a ball.
Like a sunshine, sunshine and rain."
I was speechless, he proceeded to nurse some more. He nursed till he was 5.5.
( NOt continuously, we broke for meals etc.<G>) I wouldnot trade that for the
world. My daughter is almost 20 months now, and she is starting to talk to me
about "noonies". she insists I should nurse our kitten. She was fascinated to
watch a friends 3day old foal nurse today. What a fabulous gift to nurse a
child. I have great empathy for the people for whom nursing just does not go
the way they expected it to.
Nancy in BC









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I have my son on film at about 1 1/2 playing in the yard, and in his voice,
you can tell he's getting tired and a little cranky, then he comes towards me
and the camera saying, "Maa...num-num...num-num ma!" He then starts fussing
and I couldn't put the camera down fast enough to please him! He nursed till
a little over 2, longest out of my 4....he's 15 now!


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In a message dated 4/29/2003 2:34:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
LOWRIEK@... writes:


> My daughter is almost 20 months now, and she is starting to talk to me
> about "noonies". she insists I should nurse our kitten. She was fascinated
> to
> watch a friends 3day old foal nurse today. What a fabulous gift to nurse a
> child. I have great empathy for the people for whom nursing just does not
> go
> the way they expected it to.
>
We have sheep and lambs, this being the first year we've had lambs born.
Everytime a lamb gets seperated from it's mom, or gets scared, the first
thing that lamb does is run straight to mom an BAM! Slams straight into that
nipple and nurses for all it's got. They get sooo much comfort from it, as
our children do.

If seeing the way an animal nursed by the mom and one bottle fed fares
doesn't make a case for breastfeeding I don't know what does. We have
brought home tiny little calves from the auction a few times, never got a
taste of mom's milk (mom's were milk cows, heaven forbid the baby get a day's
worth of colostrum) and their chance of survival on a bottle was only about
50 percent. Even if they did survive, they were never "right"...didn't grow
big and strong and never frolicked like the breastfed calves. How can we
humans ignore such evidence? I have heard countless women say they "tried"
breastfeeding but the baby never got enough milk, didn't like it, etc...I
don't blame these women, I blame all their relatives, friends, doctors, etc
for telling them these lies. I wish they could all see what I see on our
farm!

Nancy


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Backstrom kelli

I have to agree, I absolutely love nursing all of my little children. I feel so blessed to be able to share this intimacy with them. My dh actually is jealous that I am able to do this, what an amazing thing a women's body is! Kelli

CelticFrau@... wrote:In a message dated 4/29/2003 2:34:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
LOWRIEK@... writes:


> My daughter is almost 20 months now, and she is starting to talk to me
> about "noonies". she insists I should nurse our kitten. She was fascinated
> to
> watch a friends 3day old foal nurse today. What a fabulous gift to nurse a
> child. I have great empathy for the people for whom nursing just does not
> go
> the way they expected it to.
>
We have sheep and lambs, this being the first year we've had lambs born.
Everytime a lamb gets seperated from it's mom, or gets scared, the first
thing that lamb does is run straight to mom an BAM! Slams straight into that
nipple and nurses for all it's got. They get sooo much comfort from it, as
our children do.

If seeing the way an animal nursed by the mom and one bottle fed fares
doesn't make a case for breastfeeding I don't know what does. We have
brought home tiny little calves from the auction a few times, never got a
taste of mom's milk (mom's were milk cows, heaven forbid the baby get a day's
worth of colostrum) and their chance of survival on a bottle was only about
50 percent. Even if they did survive, they were never "right"...didn't grow
big and strong and never frolicked like the breastfed calves. How can we
humans ignore such evidence? I have heard countless women say they "tried"
breastfeeding but the baby never got enough milk, didn't like it, etc...I
don't blame these women, I blame all their relatives, friends, doctors, etc
for telling them these lies. I wish they could all see what I see on our
farm!

Nancy


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In a message dated 4-29-2003 5:51:50 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:

> If seeing the way an animal nursed by the mom and one bottle fed fares
> doesn't make a case for breastfeeding I don't know what does. We have
> brought home tiny little calves from the auction a few times, never got a
> taste of mom's milk (mom's were milk cows, heaven forbid the baby get a
> day's
> worth of colostrum)

oooooh, did I make a STINK about this the last time we were at the MN zoo <bg>
I saw the beautiful calves, outside in their *play pen* and the big mama
(milk) cows in the barn. I immediately asked the volunteer if the calves
were brought in for feeding ~ NO ~ Oh! The mamas go out to feed? NO "Cow's
milk is for HUMANS" I was told ~ eeeekkkk! At the time, my hubby was
drinking donated breastmilk [he was on chemo] I shared the importance of this
with everyone who was, by then, staring at me for making such a stink about
these *dumb cows* deserving their mommy's milk! If I convinced ONE person,
my job was done :)

diana,
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Kelli Traaseth

**oooooh, did I make a STINK about this the last time we were at the MN zoo
<bg>
> I saw the beautiful calves, outside in their *play pen* and the big mama
> (milk) cows in the barn. I immediately asked the volunteer if the calves
> were brought in for feeding ~ NO ~ Oh! The mamas go out to feed? NO
"Cow's
> milk is for HUMANS" I was told ~ eeeekkkk! At the time, my hubby was
> drinking donated breastmilk [he was on chemo] I shared the importance of
this
> with everyone who was, by then, staring at me for making such a stink
about
> these *dumb cows* deserving their mommy's milk! If I convinced ONE
person,
> my job was done :) **

Oh my! Poor babies! Gee,,,and to think that maybe humans should
drink human milk and cows should drink cow milk? What a concept!

Kelli, the animal lover in Minnesota, you can see why I feel alone
sometimes!

Backstrom kelli

Hey Kelli, what's the deal with donated breast milk? I would love to donate my breastmilk for such a good cause, how do I do it?! Kelli

Kelli Traaseth <tktraas@...> wrote:**oooooh, did I make a STINK about this the last time we were at the MN zoo
<bg>
> I saw the beautiful calves, outside in their *play pen* and the big mama
> (milk) cows in the barn. I immediately asked the volunteer if the calves
> were brought in for feeding ~ NO ~ Oh! The mamas go out to feed? NO
"Cow's
> milk is for HUMANS" I was told ~ eeeekkkk! At the time, my hubby was
> drinking donated breastmilk [he was on chemo] I shared the importance of
this
> with everyone who was, by then, staring at me for making such a stink
about
> these *dumb cows* deserving their mommy's milk! If I convinced ONE
person,
> my job was done :) **

Oh my! Poor babies! Gee,,,and to think that maybe humans should
drink human milk and cows should drink cow milk? What a concept!

Kelli, the animal lover in Minnesota, you can see why I feel alone
sometimes!


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Kelli,

You would have to ask Diana about that. I just meant that the poor calf
should be able to drink from its mother as should the baby humans!

Kelli, blown away that there's another person who spells her name the same
way!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Backstrom kelli" <kellibac@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: : Breastfeeding


> Hey Kelli, what's the deal with donated breast milk? I would love to
donate my breastmilk for such a good cause, how do I do it?! Kelli
>
> Kelli Traaseth <tktraas@...> wrote:**oooooh, did I make a STINK
about this the last time we were at the MN zoo
> <bg>
> > I saw the beautiful calves, outside in their *play pen* and the big
mama
> > (milk) cows in the barn. I immediately asked the volunteer if the
calves
> > were brought in for feeding ~ NO ~ Oh! The mamas go out to feed? NO
> "Cow's
> > milk is for HUMANS" I was told ~ eeeekkkk! At the time, my hubby was
> > drinking donated breastmilk [he was on chemo] I shared the importance of
> this
> > with everyone who was, by then, staring at me for making such a stink
> about
> > these *dumb cows* deserving their mommy's milk! If I convinced ONE
> person,
> > my job was done :) **
>
> Oh my! Poor babies! Gee,,,and to think that maybe humans should
> drink human milk and cows should drink cow milk? What a concept!
>
> Kelli, the animal lover in Minnesota, you can see why I feel alone
> sometimes!
>
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>
> So true , Tia, so do I . When my son was 2.5 years, he was nursing, and
sat
> up and looked at me. He said softly"Mom, your nipple is round, like a
ball.
> Like a sunshine, sunshine and rain."

That was beautiful. Your son, the poet.

> I was speechless, he proceeded to nurse some more. He nursed till he was
5.5.
> ( NOt continuously, we broke for meals etc.<G>) I wouldnot trade that for
the
> world. My daughter is almost 20 months now, and she is starting to talk to
me
> about "noonies". she insists I should nurse our kitten.

Sweet. My daughter's family was watching a movie a while back in which a
mother was leaving a toddler with someone else for some reason. Kaelin got
quite upset. First you have to know that his way of asking to nurse has
been to make a donkey sound. Anyway, he was pointing at the child and then
at his mother and saying in a plaintive voice, "Baby, mummy, baby, uh huh,
uh huh, uh huh (donkey sound - best I can do).
Tia

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In a message dated 4-29-2003 11:22:21 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
kellibac@... writes:

> What's the deal with donated breast milk? I would love to donate my
> breastmilk for such a good cause, how do I do it?!

It was me, diana, actually <bg> We totally lucked out that a good friend
delivered a baby in the midst of Mitch's chemo. She had attempted to send
milk to the milk bank in Denver but it was cost/time prohibitive; much easier
to run a batch across town :-D Plus, Mitch was happy, happy, happy to run
thru the colostrum she pumped for him the first few days ~ I was truly amazed
at the difference it made in his well being. For this, I am eternally
indebted to my friend Sandra.

I would recommend contacting a cancer support group, hospice group or even a
social worker at a local hospital ~ let them know you're interested in
donating breastmilk to a patient, to aid in chemo side effects. You never
know who you could help!

diana,
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Backstrom kelli

me too Kelli, was your mom a hippy? :)

Kelli Traaseth <tktraas@...> wrote:Kelli,

You would have to ask Diana about that. I just meant that the poor calf
should be able to drink from its mother as should the baby humans!

Kelli, blown away that there's another person who spells her name the same
way!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Backstrom kelli" <kellibac@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: : Breastfeeding


> Hey Kelli, what's the deal with donated breast milk? I would love to
donate my breastmilk for such a good cause, how do I do it?! Kelli
>
> Kelli Traaseth <tktraas@...> wrote:**oooooh, did I make a STINK
about this the last time we were at the MN zoo
> <bg>
> > I saw the beautiful calves, outside in their *play pen* and the big
mama
> > (milk) cows in the barn. I immediately asked the volunteer if the
calves
> > were brought in for feeding ~ NO ~ Oh! The mamas go out to feed? NO
> "Cow's
> > milk is for HUMANS" I was told ~ eeeekkkk! At the time, my hubby was
> > drinking donated breastmilk [he was on chemo] I shared the importance of
> this
> > with everyone who was, by then, staring at me for making such a stink
> about
> > these *dumb cows* deserving their mommy's milk! If I convinced ONE
> person,
> > my job was done :) **
>
> Oh my! Poor babies! Gee,,,and to think that maybe humans should
> drink human milk and cows should drink cow milk? What a concept!
>
> Kelli, the animal lover in Minnesota, you can see why I feel alone
> sometimes!
>
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In a message dated 29/04/2003 04:51:51 Pacific Daylight Time,
CelticFrau@... writes:


> I have heard countless women say they "tried"
> breastfeeding but the baby never got enough milk, didn't like it, etc...I
> don't blame these women, I blame all their relatives, friends, doctors, etc
>
> for telling them these lies. I wish they could all see what I see on our
> farm!
>

I hear from these women all the time as a LLL leader, that is why it is so
important for women who are nursing to share their stories, positive and
negative, so that we can help them or explain things to other people who hear
the misinformation.Seeing the farm animals just DO it would be great for most
people!
The other Nancy, in BC


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In a message dated 29/04/2003 11:26:34 Pacific Daylight Time, leschke@...
writes:


> he was pointing at the child and then
> at his mother and saying in a plaintive voice, "Baby, mummy, baby, uh huh,
> uh huh, uh huh (donkey sound - best I can do).
>

I do believe they are wise creatures about what they need, just like our
older children and unschooling!!!(Sound of giant lightbulb turning on in my
head!!!!!!)
We only need to listen to what they say to us.
Perhaps I need to be as open to what my 7 year old is saying??!! ( Oh, why am
I so slow?)
Nancy, in BC


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Kelli Traaseth

**was your mom a hippy? :)**

No, unfortunately not. Maybe deep down she is <g>, oh boy, it must be
really, really deep down! <EG>

Kelli

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In a message dated 4/30/03 1:35:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LOWRIEK@...
writes:

> >I have heard countless women say they "tried"
> >breastfeeding but the baby never got enough milk, didn't like it, etc...I
> >don't blame these women, I blame all their relatives, friends, doctors,
> etc
> >
> >for telling them these lies. I wish they could all see what I see on our
> >farm!
> >
>
> I hear from these women all the time as a LLL leader, that is why it is so
> important for women who are nursing to share their stories, positive and
> negative, so that we can help them or explain things to other people who
> hear
> the misinformation.Seeing the farm animals just DO it would be great for
> most
> people!
>

Just from my experience, some of these women say that as a way to ease their
own conscience. They feel they "should" breast feed but really don't want
to. So they say "my baby isn't getting enough milk". Sometimes it is hard
to get the real reasons. There are mothers who, with all the information in
the world, don't want to breastfeed but don't want to say that.
Pam G.


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Tia Leschke

>
> I do believe they are wise creatures about what they need, just like our
> older children and unschooling!!!(Sound of giant lightbulb turning on in
my
> head!!!!!!)
> We only need to listen to what they say to us.
> Perhaps I need to be as open to what my 7 year old is saying??!!

So what *is* your 7 year old saying? <g>
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

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In a message dated 4/29/03 7:58:52 PM, kellibac@... writes:

<< me too Kelli, was your mom a hippy? :) >>

And were you BOTH born in Santa Fe?
<bwg>

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writes:


> So what *is* your 7 year old saying? <g>
> Tia
>

Well Tia, where do I start? This child is afraid of the dark, yet I resist
going with him to get stuff sometimes. He feels pain in extremes, and has
very volatile emotions. He tells me he needs more of me, and I have a hard
time balancing my time with him and his sister(19mos)
I often feel as if I railroad him into things he doesn't want to do.I am
trying hard to not be so controlling and to listen to what he tells me, both
nonverbally and verbally.It just seems as though I don't listen well to him,
but with the toddler I am so respectful.IT is a struggle with me. This boy is
very needful of me. I forget that he is so young, as he is 4'10" and 150lbs.
at seven, also very articulate and intelligent.
I bet you didn't need to hear all that.This list is an inspiration to me, as
is my dear friend Maureen who posts here as well. It all helps me on my
journey to help my son grow and be happy.
Nancy in BC


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Tia Leschke

> Well Tia, where do I start? This child is afraid of the dark, yet I resist
> going with him to get stuff sometimes. He feels pain in extremes, and has
> very volatile emotions. He tells me he needs more of me, and I have a hard
> time balancing my time with him and his sister(19mos)
> I often feel as if I railroad him into things he doesn't want to do.I am
> trying hard to not be so controlling and to listen to what he tells me,
both
> nonverbally and verbally.It just seems as though I don't listen well to
him,
> but with the toddler I am so respectful.IT is a struggle with me. This boy
is
> very needful of me. I forget that he is so young, as he is 4'10" and
150lbs.
> at seven, also very articulate and intelligent.

He sounds a lot like my 8 year old granddaughter. Only she's gone from just
her and her mother to a new dad and two little brothers in something like 3
1/2 years.
It's hard for the kids and hard for their mums.

> I bet you didn't need to hear all that.This list is an inspiration to me,
as
> is my dear friend Maureen who posts here as well. It all helps me on my
> journey to help my son grow and be happy.

Well I suppose I didn't need to, but I certainly didn't mind. <g>
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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In a message dated 4/30/2003 8:50:55 AM Central Daylight Time,
genant2@... writes:

> Just from my experience, some of these women say that as a way to ease their
>
> own conscience. They feel they "should" breast feed but really don't want
> to. So they say "my baby isn't getting enough milk". Sometimes it is hard
>
> to get the real reasons. There are mothers who, with all the information
> in
> the world, don't want to breastfeed but don't want to say that.
>

I am sure tha out of 1100 people on the list, not everyone breastfed their
children. Out of respect for those, I'm going to ask that no one else
speculate on why people didn't do it, lest it get nasty quick.

Tuck


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Backstrom kelli

I was born in Santa Fe:)

SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 4/29/03 7:58:52 PM, kellibac@... writes:

<< me too Kelli, was your mom a hippy? :) >>

And were you BOTH born in Santa Fe?
<bwg>

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In a message dated 4/30/03 10:19:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tuckervill@... writes:

> I am sure tha out of 1100 people on the list, not everyone breastfed their
> children. Out of respect for those, I'm going to ask that no one else
> speculate on why people didn't do it, lest it get nasty quick.
>
>

I was only speaking from my experience as a lactation consultant not trying
to explain why everyone who did not breastfeed did not do it. Just speaking
from experience as to why some mothers say "they didn't have enough milk."
Pam G.


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In a message dated 4/30/2003 9:24:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
genant2@... writes:

> >I am sure tha out of 1100 people on the list, not everyone breastfed their
> >children. Out of respect for those, I'm going to ask that no one else
> >speculate on why people didn't do it, lest it get nasty quick.
> >
> >
>
> I was only speaking from my experience as a lactation consultant not trying
>
> to explain why everyone who did not breastfeed did not do it. Just
> speaking
> from experience as to why some mothers say "they didn't have enough milk."
> Pam G.
>

I jumped off from your post, but before that there were two others
speculating.

Tuck


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In a message dated 30/04/2003 19:10:59 Pacific Daylight Time, leschke@...
writes:


> Well I suppose I didn't need to, but I certainly didn't mind. <g>
> Tia
>

Thanks for that! I lost it there for a minute. He is wonderful and loving and
intelligent and kind and I do try to everything I can for him, nursed him
till 5.5, tho that is not the only thing. Sometimes it is just overwhelmiing
for me. I probably just need to go ride my horse or something.
Nancy in BC


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Kelli Traaseth

Nope! Not me,,,Moorhead, MN.

Way up nort, ya know.

Kelli


----- Original Message -----
From: "Backstrom kelli" <kellibac@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: : Breastfeeding/the name Kelli


> I was born in Santa Fe:)
>
> SandraDodd@... wrote:
> In a message dated 4/29/03 7:58:52 PM, kellibac@... writes:
>
> << me too Kelli, was your mom a hippy? :) >>
>
> And were you BOTH born in Santa Fe?
> <bwg>
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