Re: I dunt understand....
Olga
--- In [email protected], Shyrley
<shyrley.williams@v...> wrote:
and 'graduation' when the pupils are only 18.
(kidergarten) to 5th or 6th grade (about 11 or so) depending on the
state you live. Then middle school for another 2-3 years. High
school is another 4 years from about 14-18 years old. You earn
credits for each class and must take certain required courses plus a
number of elective classes to graduate with a high school diploma.
Each class earns you a certain number of credits and you need so many
credits to graduate. A high school diploma is not a specific program
of study, it is just a continuation on general information and is
supposed to be the preparation for college (university) which is
another 2-4 years or more if you want to study further. Some kids
opt for a GED once they turn 16, school of some form is mandatroy
until then. A GED is a test that gives you an equivilency diploma
and allows you to apply to university. Whew. Now, I have been out
of school for about 10 years so there are probably people currently
working in the frameworks of the system who might have any current
changes to the system. I hope this helps and does not leave you more
confused then when you started. Oh..by the way...there are usually no
exit exams required to get your high school diploma, although some
states may be changing this now.
Olga
<shyrley.williams@v...> wrote:
>reading a book which uses the terms 'credit' and Grade point average
>
> Can someone please explain the US school system to me. I been
and 'graduation' when the pupils are only 18.
>Okay it is something like this...we have elementry school from 5
> Someone enlighten an ignorant furriner.....
>
> Shyrley
>
(kidergarten) to 5th or 6th grade (about 11 or so) depending on the
state you live. Then middle school for another 2-3 years. High
school is another 4 years from about 14-18 years old. You earn
credits for each class and must take certain required courses plus a
number of elective classes to graduate with a high school diploma.
Each class earns you a certain number of credits and you need so many
credits to graduate. A high school diploma is not a specific program
of study, it is just a continuation on general information and is
supposed to be the preparation for college (university) which is
another 2-4 years or more if you want to study further. Some kids
opt for a GED once they turn 16, school of some form is mandatroy
until then. A GED is a test that gives you an equivilency diploma
and allows you to apply to university. Whew. Now, I have been out
of school for about 10 years so there are probably people currently
working in the frameworks of the system who might have any current
changes to the system. I hope this helps and does not leave you more
confused then when you started. Oh..by the way...there are usually no
exit exams required to get your high school diploma, although some
states may be changing this now.
Olga
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/25/03 5:38:10 PM, shyrley.williams@... writes:
<< Can someone please explain the US school system to me. I been reading a
book which uses the terms 'credit' and Grade point average and 'graduation'
when the pupils are only 18. >>
You can tell the woman you're not enrolled in a high school so there's
nowhere for that credit to go! <g> She means if you WERE counting credits
for a high school graduation, you could count that project as one credit.
Most states require 19 to 23 or so "credits." They only start counting in
9th grade (a.k.a. high school freshman year; kids are 15ish) and to graduate
in one state or another (they vary you might need something like this (for a
mostly made-up example):
English 4 credits (means you took/passed it every year)
Science 2 credits
Math 2 credits (maybe three)
Geography 1
History 3
Physical Education 2
Health 1 (might be part of phys ed in some places)
and six or eight "elective" credits
which will be stuff maybe like driver's ed, theatre, music, art, home
economics/family life/called various things (required in some places, maybe
as the other half of "health")
So when you're a senior, and 17 or 18 years old, if you have enough of those
things, you "graduate from high school."
College credits are called "college hours" and a three hour class means,
generally, it met for three hours a week for a semester. You get "three
credit hours."
It's totally irritating terminology.
Sandra
<< Can someone please explain the US school system to me. I been reading a
book which uses the terms 'credit' and Grade point average and 'graduation'
when the pupils are only 18. >>
You can tell the woman you're not enrolled in a high school so there's
nowhere for that credit to go! <g> She means if you WERE counting credits
for a high school graduation, you could count that project as one credit.
Most states require 19 to 23 or so "credits." They only start counting in
9th grade (a.k.a. high school freshman year; kids are 15ish) and to graduate
in one state or another (they vary you might need something like this (for a
mostly made-up example):
English 4 credits (means you took/passed it every year)
Science 2 credits
Math 2 credits (maybe three)
Geography 1
History 3
Physical Education 2
Health 1 (might be part of phys ed in some places)
and six or eight "elective" credits
which will be stuff maybe like driver's ed, theatre, music, art, home
economics/family life/called various things (required in some places, maybe
as the other half of "health")
So when you're a senior, and 17 or 18 years old, if you have enough of those
things, you "graduate from high school."
College credits are called "college hours" and a three hour class means,
generally, it met for three hours a week for a semester. You get "three
credit hours."
It's totally irritating terminology.
Sandra
Shyrley
Can someone please explain the US school system to me. I been reading a book which uses the terms 'credit' and Grade point average and 'graduation' when the pupils are only 18.
I don't really understand. We take exams at 16. Then study 3 subjects from 16-18 and take 3 exams. Then we go to university and don't graduate till then.
The credit thing is confusing me. DD is thinking of acting in a theatre company. The woman doing the auditions said she would get 'high school credit' for this. Huh? She's not taking any exams or
anything, just being in a play. Plus, we're moving back to the UK. If DD chooses university, she'll have to pass 3 A levels same as anyone else.
Someone enlighten an ignorant furriner.....
Shyrley
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I don't really understand. We take exams at 16. Then study 3 subjects from 16-18 and take 3 exams. Then we go to university and don't graduate till then.
The credit thing is confusing me. DD is thinking of acting in a theatre company. The woman doing the auditions said she would get 'high school credit' for this. Huh? She's not taking any exams or
anything, just being in a play. Plus, we're moving back to the UK. If DD chooses university, she'll have to pass 3 A levels same as anyone else.
Someone enlighten an ignorant furriner.....
Shyrley
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kayb85
There is no exam to pass in order to graduate from highschool. There
are often exams in order to pass individual classes, but the only
thing that you have to do in order to graduate is to have enough
credits.
Here's how it worked in my school. If you took an academic class,
for example, academic algebra I, you got 4 credits multiplied by your
grade. A's were worth 4, B's were 3, c's were 2, d's were 1. So an
A in algebra I would be worth 16 points. (4 X 4). A C in albegra I
would be worth 8 points. (4 X 2).
However, if you took basic algebra instead of academic algebra I, you
get 2.5 times your grade. So an A in basic algebra would be worth 10
points. (4 X 2.5) Much less points than if you got an A in academic
algebra I, so anyone who had any ambition struggled through the
academic course even if they weren't really ready for it.
Same thing with Englishes, sciences, social studies...basic English
would be 2.5 X your grade, but American literature or composition II
would be worth 4 times your grade.
home ec and shop classes were worth 2.5 times grade, foreign
languages were worth 4 times grade.
"Top" kids competing for grade point averages would never, ever take
study halls, because they wouldn't get any points for them. Kids who
could care less about grade point average took as many as they were
allowed. Therefore it was always the "bad" kids in study halls.
My senior year I got away without taking physics and it didn't hurt
my grade point average because I discovered that human physiology was
much easier and was still worth 4 points.
The disgusting games we teach our kids!
Sheila
cos that only gives you 3. That sort of thing?
are often exams in order to pass individual classes, but the only
thing that you have to do in order to graduate is to have enough
credits.
Here's how it worked in my school. If you took an academic class,
for example, academic algebra I, you got 4 credits multiplied by your
grade. A's were worth 4, B's were 3, c's were 2, d's were 1. So an
A in algebra I would be worth 16 points. (4 X 4). A C in albegra I
would be worth 8 points. (4 X 2).
However, if you took basic algebra instead of academic algebra I, you
get 2.5 times your grade. So an A in basic algebra would be worth 10
points. (4 X 2.5) Much less points than if you got an A in academic
algebra I, so anyone who had any ambition struggled through the
academic course even if they weren't really ready for it.
Same thing with Englishes, sciences, social studies...basic English
would be 2.5 X your grade, but American literature or composition II
would be worth 4 times your grade.
home ec and shop classes were worth 2.5 times grade, foreign
languages were worth 4 times grade.
"Top" kids competing for grade point averages would never, ever take
study halls, because they wouldn't get any points for them. Kids who
could care less about grade point average took as many as they were
allowed. Therefore it was always the "bad" kids in study halls.
My senior year I got away without taking physics and it didn't hurt
my grade point average because I discovered that human physiology was
much easier and was still worth 4 points.
The disgusting games we teach our kids!
Sheila
> Ah. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So,everybody takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry
cos that only gives you 3. That sort of thing?
> Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. Does getting ahigh or low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you get?
>
> Shyrley
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
sorcha_aisling
>>>There is no exam to pass in order to graduate from highschool.<<<Actually, here in Ohio you have to pass the ninth grade proficiency
test to graduate. Yes, ninth grade. You take it in ninth grade, and
if you don't pass, you have to keep retaking it until you do. I've
known people who kept taking it again and again and again and barely
passed. I shudder to think what would happen if there was a twelfth
grade proficiency test to graduate.
Sorcha
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/25/03 6:34:50 PM, shyrley.williams@... writes:
<< Thats amazingly complicated. Any idea why?
To baffle non-professionals?
It just happened gradually.
Sandra
<< Thats amazingly complicated. Any idea why?
>>To justify salaries?
To baffle non-professionals?
It just happened gradually.
Sandra
Shyrley
Olga wrote:
Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. Does getting a high or low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you get?
Shyrley
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> --- In [email protected], ShyrleyAh. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So, everybody takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry cos that only gives you 3. That sort of thing?
> <shyrley.williams@v...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Can someone please explain the US school system to me. I been
> reading a book which uses the terms 'credit' and Grade point average
> and 'graduation' when the pupils are only 18.
> >
>
> > Someone enlighten an ignorant furriner.....
> >
> > Shyrley
> >
>
>
> Okay it is something like this...we have elementry school from 5
> (kidergarten) to 5th or 6th grade (about 11 or so) depending on the
> state you live. Then middle school for another 2-3 years. High
> school is another 4 years from about 14-18 years old. You earn
> credits for each class and must take certain required courses plus a
> number of elective classes to graduate with a high school diploma.
> Each class earns you a certain number of credits and you need so many
> credits to graduate.
Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. Does getting a high or low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you get?
Shyrley
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Shyrley
SandraDodd@... wrote:
Shyrley
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> In a message dated 4/25/03 5:38:10 PM, shyrley.williams@... writes:Wow. Thanks for that Sandra. Thats amazingly complicated. Any idea why?
>
> << Can someone please explain the US school system to me. I been reading a
> book which uses the terms 'credit' and Grade point average and 'graduation'
> when the pupils are only 18. >>
>
> You can tell the woman you're not enrolled in a high school so there's
> nowhere for that credit to go! <g> She means if you WERE counting credits
> for a high school graduation, you could count that project as one credit.
>
> Most states require 19 to 23 or so "credits." They only start counting in
> 9th grade (a.k.a. high school freshman year; kids are 15ish) and to graduate
> in one state or another (they vary you might need something like this (for a
> mostly made-up example):
>
> English 4 credits (means you took/passed it every year)
> Science 2 credits
> Math 2 credits (maybe three)
> Geography 1
> History 3
> Physical Education 2
> Health 1 (might be part of phys ed in some places)
> and six or eight "elective" credits
> which will be stuff maybe like driver's ed, theatre, music, art, home
> economics/family life/called various things (required in some places, maybe
> as the other half of "health")
>
> So when you're a senior, and 17 or 18 years old, if you have enough of those
> things, you "graduate from high school."
>
> College credits are called "college hours" and a three hour class means,
> generally, it met for three hours a week for a semester. You get "three
> credit hours."
>
> It's totally irritating terminology.
>
> Sandra
>
Shyrley
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[email protected]
-=-Ah. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So, everybody
takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry cos that only
gives you 3. That sort of thing?
Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. Does getting a high or
low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you get?-=-
Not in any school I'm familiar with. Not in high school. Any year-long
course is 1 credit. The only 1/2 credit would be a one semester (half year)
class.
You get as much credit for an A as for a D. But GradePoint Average I forgot
to address (below).
In college if you're to get four "hours" instead of three, the class is
either harder, has a lab, or has a big final project.
Grade point average is pretty much just a point average. Traditional and
most common is 4 point system. Some schools use a 5 so you can have more
than a 4.0 (four-point-oh, it's called) but that's fairly recent.
A 4
B 3
C 2
D 1
F 0
and you average that, so anything above a 3.0 (three point oh) is good, a 4.0
is "straight A's" and below 2.0 nobody speaks aloud.
Sandra
takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry cos that only
gives you 3. That sort of thing?
Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. Does getting a high or
low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you get?-=-
Not in any school I'm familiar with. Not in high school. Any year-long
course is 1 credit. The only 1/2 credit would be a one semester (half year)
class.
You get as much credit for an A as for a D. But GradePoint Average I forgot
to address (below).
In college if you're to get four "hours" instead of three, the class is
either harder, has a lab, or has a big final project.
Grade point average is pretty much just a point average. Traditional and
most common is 4 point system. Some schools use a 5 so you can have more
than a 4.0 (four-point-oh, it's called) but that's fairly recent.
A 4
B 3
C 2
D 1
F 0
and you average that, so anything above a 3.0 (three point oh) is good, a 4.0
is "straight A's" and below 2.0 nobody speaks aloud.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/26/03 12:21:43 AM, shyrley.williams@... writes:
<< Ah. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So, everybody
takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry cos that only
gives you 3. That sort of thing? >>
No, same credit for each class. The more credits required, just means more
classes of that subject. HTH, Lara...........
<< Ah. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So, everybody
takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry cos that only
gives you 3. That sort of thing? >>
No, same credit for each class. The more credits required, just means more
classes of that subject. HTH, Lara...........
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/26/03 12:21:43 AM, shyrley.williams@... writes:
<< Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. >>
You get the credit(s) if you pass the *class*. (Though exams are given in
classes, and failing some of those could result in failing the class.)
<< Does getting a high or low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you
get? >>
No, if you pass the class, you get the credit. (There's an exception here I
won't bother you with, it might be confusing, and doesn't change the answer.)
HTH, Lara.........
<< Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. >>
You get the credit(s) if you pass the *class*. (Though exams are given in
classes, and failing some of those could result in failing the class.)
<< Does getting a high or low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you
get? >>
No, if you pass the class, you get the credit. (There's an exception here I
won't bother you with, it might be confusing, and doesn't change the answer.)
HTH, Lara.........
Backstrom kelli
In Massachusetts it is now a requirement that hs students pass an "MCAS" test ( a standardized test) in order to graduate from hs. Anyone from Mass out there? It's a hot debate here. Fortunately homeschoolers do not need to meet this requirement. Kelli
kayb85 <sheran@...> wrote:There is no exam to pass in order to graduate from highschool. There
are often exams in order to pass individual classes, but the only
thing that you have to do in order to graduate is to have enough
credits.
Here's how it worked in my school. If you took an academic class,
for example, academic algebra I, you got 4 credits multiplied by your
grade. A's were worth 4, B's were 3, c's were 2, d's were 1. So an
A in algebra I would be worth 16 points. (4 X 4). A C in albegra I
would be worth 8 points. (4 X 2).
However, if you took basic algebra instead of academic algebra I, you
get 2.5 times your grade. So an A in basic algebra would be worth 10
points. (4 X 2.5) Much less points than if you got an A in academic
algebra I, so anyone who had any ambition struggled through the
academic course even if they weren't really ready for it.
Same thing with Englishes, sciences, social studies...basic English
would be 2.5 X your grade, but American literature or composition II
would be worth 4 times your grade.
home ec and shop classes were worth 2.5 times grade, foreign
languages were worth 4 times grade.
"Top" kids competing for grade point averages would never, ever take
study halls, because they wouldn't get any points for them. Kids who
could care less about grade point average took as many as they were
allowed. Therefore it was always the "bad" kids in study halls.
My senior year I got away without taking physics and it didn't hurt
my grade point average because I discovered that human physiology was
much easier and was still worth 4 points.
The disgusting games we teach our kids!
Sheila
cos that only gives you 3. That sort of thing?
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kayb85 <sheran@...> wrote:There is no exam to pass in order to graduate from highschool. There
are often exams in order to pass individual classes, but the only
thing that you have to do in order to graduate is to have enough
credits.
Here's how it worked in my school. If you took an academic class,
for example, academic algebra I, you got 4 credits multiplied by your
grade. A's were worth 4, B's were 3, c's were 2, d's were 1. So an
A in algebra I would be worth 16 points. (4 X 4). A C in albegra I
would be worth 8 points. (4 X 2).
However, if you took basic algebra instead of academic algebra I, you
get 2.5 times your grade. So an A in basic algebra would be worth 10
points. (4 X 2.5) Much less points than if you got an A in academic
algebra I, so anyone who had any ambition struggled through the
academic course even if they weren't really ready for it.
Same thing with Englishes, sciences, social studies...basic English
would be 2.5 X your grade, but American literature or composition II
would be worth 4 times your grade.
home ec and shop classes were worth 2.5 times grade, foreign
languages were worth 4 times grade.
"Top" kids competing for grade point averages would never, ever take
study halls, because they wouldn't get any points for them. Kids who
could care less about grade point average took as many as they were
allowed. Therefore it was always the "bad" kids in study halls.
My senior year I got away without taking physics and it didn't hurt
my grade point average because I discovered that human physiology was
much easier and was still worth 4 points.
The disgusting games we teach our kids!
Sheila
> Ah. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So,everybody takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry
cos that only gives you 3. That sort of thing?
> Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. Does getting ahigh or low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you get?
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Hi Kelli - I'm in Southeastern MA. ~Rue
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
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From: Backstrom kelli [mailto:kellibac@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: I dunt understand..../MCAS tests
Anyone from Mass out there? Kelli
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"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
-----Original Message-----
From: Backstrom kelli [mailto:kellibac@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: I dunt understand..../MCAS tests
Anyone from Mass out there? Kelli
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In a message dated 4/25/03 6:50:19 PM, kellibac@... writes:
am part of an anti mcas group at my " old" school called SAFE students
advocating fair education. and we have been getting alot of press since the
MCAS became a requirement for this years graduating class. ( which was 3
years ago) each year several people from our school have boycotted. there are
four seniors I beleive who will not graduate this year.I know that 2 of them
are going to Dartmouth and Middlebury. last year, when I still was in school
I got my chance to boycott. it was amazing, and while my actions did not end
up holding consiquence for me like the others( I was under the impression
they would at the time )I still would have stood by it. I support my "
classmates" and am still helping them fight for the cause.
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> In Massachusetts it is now a requirement that hs students pass an "MCAS"I beleive I have posted about this before, but It's a very hot topic here. I
> test ( a standardized test) in order to graduate from hs. Anyone from Mass
> out there? It's a hot debate here. Fortunately homeschoolers do not need to
> meet this requirement. Kelli
>
am part of an anti mcas group at my " old" school called SAFE students
advocating fair education. and we have been getting alot of press since the
MCAS became a requirement for this years graduating class. ( which was 3
years ago) each year several people from our school have boycotted. there are
four seniors I beleive who will not graduate this year.I know that 2 of them
are going to Dartmouth and Middlebury. last year, when I still was in school
I got my chance to boycott. it was amazing, and while my actions did not end
up holding consiquence for me like the others( I was under the impression
they would at the time )I still would have stood by it. I support my "
classmates" and am still helping them fight for the cause.
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/25/2003 9:28:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
semester! Unfortunately, that became his NAME! Even some of the profeesors
called him "Double Naught". Poor Andrew!
~Kelly
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> and you average that, so anything above a 3.0 (three point oh) is good, aI have a friend that got a "Double Naught" (.008) in college his first
> 4.0
> is "straight A's" and below 2.0 nobody speaks aloud.
semester! Unfortunately, that became his NAME! Even some of the profeesors
called him "Double Naught". Poor Andrew!
~Kelly
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/25/2003 8:06:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
chose PE) and two from 8th (Latin and Fine Arts ). Handy, huh? They're
probably not allowing that anymore.
We didn't get "electives" everything was "real".
~Kelly
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> Most states require 19 to 23 or so "credits." They only start counting inIt's been a few years <g>, but I got to bring up one credit from 7th grade (I
> 9th grade (a.k.a. high school freshman year; kids are 15ish) and to
> graduate
> in one state or another (they vary you might need something like this (for
> a
> mostly made-up example):
chose PE) and two from 8th (Latin and Fine Arts ). Handy, huh? They're
probably not allowing that anymore.
We didn't get "electives" everything was "real".
~Kelly
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/25/03 10:49:57 PM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:
<< We didn't get "electives" everything was "real". >>
You couldn't choose music or shop or art?
<< We didn't get "electives" everything was "real". >>
You couldn't choose music or shop or art?
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/26/2003 1:13:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
"Shop" didn't exist. Neither did health, home ec or any other common
electives you see on tv shows! <g> Most of the kids "elected" to transfer the
art/music in 8th as a credit. The math wizzes took algebra I in 8th and
transfered that one. Days were filled with English, History, Math, and
Science. College Prep!
~Kelly
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> You couldn't choose music or shop or art?Private college prep school---what ON EARTH would we need with electives????
"Shop" didn't exist. Neither did health, home ec or any other common
electives you see on tv shows! <g> Most of the kids "elected" to transfer the
art/music in 8th as a credit. The math wizzes took algebra I in 8th and
transfered that one. Days were filled with English, History, Math, and
Science. College Prep!
~Kelly
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In a message dated 4/25/03 11:23:07 PM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:
<< Days were filled with English, History, Math, and
Science. College Prep! >>
So did you study French? If so, you'll be able to understand the Eddie
Izzard show in French.
And THAT will have made it all worth it.
I took French. It prepared me to take some more French in college. It
helped me not understand any Cajuns and to understand half of the Eddie
Izzard show.
Sandra
<< Days were filled with English, History, Math, and
Science. College Prep! >>
So did you study French? If so, you'll be able to understand the Eddie
Izzard show in French.
And THAT will have made it all worth it.
I took French. It prepared me to take some more French in college. It
helped me not understand any Cajuns and to understand half of the Eddie
Izzard show.
Sandra
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In a message dated 4/26/03 1:30:44 AM, [email protected]
writes:
<< Hi Kelli - I'm in Southeastern MA. ~Rue >>
Hi Kelli & Rue- I'm on the Conn./Mass. border
Kim
writes:
<< Hi Kelli - I'm in Southeastern MA. ~Rue >>
Hi Kelli & Rue- I'm on the Conn./Mass. border
Kim
Fetteroll
on 4/26/03 5:12 AM, HOMESCHOOL4GOOD@... at HOMESCHOOL4GOOD@...
wrote:
Joyce
wrote:
> << Hi Kelli - I'm in Southeastern MA. ~Rue >>And I'm about 15 mi SW of Boston.
>
> Hi Kelli & Rue- I'm on the Conn./Mass. border
Joyce
coyote's corner
Hi,
I'm in Rhode Island.
Janis
I'm in Rhode Island.
Janis
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon and Rue Kream
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: I dunt understand..../MCAS tests
Hi Kelli - I'm in Southeastern MA. ~Rue
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."
-----Original Message-----
From: Backstrom kelli [mailto:kellibac@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 9:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: I dunt understand..../MCAS tests
Anyone from Mass out there? Kelli
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Shyrley
SandraDodd@... wrote:
I didn't actually learn any French though until I spent months back-packing round France. Much better than sitting in a dull language lab with headphones.
Shyrley
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> In a message dated 4/25/03 11:23:07 PM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:I did French up till the age of 16. It's compulsory in UK schools just in case we need to steam over the Channel and kick French butt I think.
>
> << Days were filled with English, History, Math, and
> Science. College Prep! >>
>
> So did you study French? If so, you'll be able to understand the Eddie
> Izzard show in French.
>
> And THAT will have made it all worth it.
>
> I took French. It prepared me to take some more French in college. It
> helped me not understand any Cajuns and to understand half of the Eddie
> Izzard show.
>
> Sandra
>
I didn't actually learn any French though until I spent months back-packing round France. Much better than sitting in a dull language lab with headphones.
Shyrley
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In a message dated 4/26/2003 1:29:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:> So did you study French? If so, you'll be able to
know all the animals and body parts and I can read it pitifully slowly. I had
five years of Latin, two of Spanish, and total immersion---4 years---of
German.
I could READ the script and understand a lot of it. I couldn't understand
much of anything spoken to me. Frog Eddie would be lost on me! <g>
Bummer!
~Kelly
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SandraDodd@... writes:> So did you study French? If so, you'll be able to
> understand the Eddie6 years: 1st through 6th grades. I can read and speak restaurant french. I
> Izzard show in French.
know all the animals and body parts and I can read it pitifully slowly. I had
five years of Latin, two of Spanish, and total immersion---4 years---of
German.
I could READ the script and understand a lot of it. I couldn't understand
much of anything spoken to me. Frog Eddie would be lost on me! <g>
Bummer!
~Kelly
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4-25-2003 6:34:52 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
shyrley.williams@... writes:
impresses furiners!! hee hee hee
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule
of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.”
--Frederick Douglass
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shyrley.williams@... writes:
> Wow. Thanks for that Sandra. That's amazingly complicated. Any idea why?Anything bureaucratic in America MUST be complicated ... we think it
>
impresses furiners!! hee hee hee
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule
of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.”
--Frederick Douglass
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4-25-2003 6:53:19 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
sheran@... writes:
school district in California, I had to take *their* test in order for my
diploma to be valid. I was amazed at how simple a test it was. I remember
most the 200 word essay on my favorite food; the math portion was basic
arithmetic with no algebra ... I could have passed it way before I graduated!
Funny thing, too, when I went to school we did K-6 elementary, then 7-9
junior high, and 10-12 high school. Not long after I graduated, our state
changed to the Middle School system: K-5 elementary; 6-8 middle school; 9-12
highschool. This system has NOT been as effective as they thought
(overcrowding was the major concern, not social development), they are now
considering reverting to the original system as 6th and 9th graders are
having horrible adjustment issues. Glad my kids aren't there :-D
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule
of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.”
--Frederick Douglass
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sheran@... writes:
> There is no exam to pass in order to graduate from highschoolIn South Dakota there isn't any graduation tests, but in order to work in the
school district in California, I had to take *their* test in order for my
diploma to be valid. I was amazed at how simple a test it was. I remember
most the 200 word essay on my favorite food; the math portion was basic
arithmetic with no algebra ... I could have passed it way before I graduated!
Funny thing, too, when I went to school we did K-6 elementary, then 7-9
junior high, and 10-12 high school. Not long after I graduated, our state
changed to the Middle School system: K-5 elementary; 6-8 middle school; 9-12
highschool. This system has NOT been as effective as they thought
(overcrowding was the major concern, not social development), they are now
considering reverting to the original system as 6th and 9th graders are
having horrible adjustment issues. Glad my kids aren't there :-D
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
“I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule
of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.”
--Frederick Douglass
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Kelly Lenhart
--- In [email protected], Laramike12@a... wrote:
basically college level classes being taught in high school. 4
credits instead of three.
Kelly
>everybody
> In a message dated 4/26/03 12:21:43 AM, shyrley.williams@v... writes:
>
> << Ah. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So,
> takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry cos thatonly
> gives you 3. That sort of thing? >>means more
>
> No, same credit for each class. The more credits required, just
> classes of that subject. HTH, Lara...........We got more credits for Advanced Placement classes. They were
basically college level classes being taught in high school. 4
credits instead of three.
Kelly
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/25/2003 8:28:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
(Sometimes you don't even have to get a passing grade.)
When my eldest son wanted to go back to school after one year of
homeschooling, I went in armed with his previous standardized test scores,
and a transcript that they found lacking. She wasn't going to give him
credit and put him in 10th grade based on test scores alone (all his scores
were 99th percentile. woo-hoo!) and they didn't like his transcript.
Anyway, I asked the question, and I wanted her to be real clear about it:
"So what you're saying is, it's not what he KNOWS that counts, but how much
time he has served?"
And she said, "Yes."
I made steady eye contact while I allowed that to sink into her
counselor-brain.
I told Jake all about that and it really ruined him for school. It changed
his whole outlook; disillusioned him. He did finish and earned lots of
scholarships, but he did it by working the system. His cynicism was kind of
sad, really, but it all turned out okay in the end.
Tuck
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> -=-Ah. So do some classes earn you more 'credits' than others? So, everybodyNah, you get credits just for doing the time, and getting a passing grade.
>
> takes English lit cos thats 5 credits but avoids chemistry cos that only
> gives you 3. That sort of thing?
> Do you only get the 'credits' if you pass the exam. Does getting a high or
> low mark in the exam affect how many 'credits' you get?-=-
>
> Not in any school I'm familiar with. Not in high school. Any year-long
> course is 1 credit. The only 1/2 credit would be a one semester (half
> year)
> class.
>
(Sometimes you don't even have to get a passing grade.)
When my eldest son wanted to go back to school after one year of
homeschooling, I went in armed with his previous standardized test scores,
and a transcript that they found lacking. She wasn't going to give him
credit and put him in 10th grade based on test scores alone (all his scores
were 99th percentile. woo-hoo!) and they didn't like his transcript.
Anyway, I asked the question, and I wanted her to be real clear about it:
"So what you're saying is, it's not what he KNOWS that counts, but how much
time he has served?"
And she said, "Yes."
I made steady eye contact while I allowed that to sink into her
counselor-brain.
I told Jake all about that and it really ruined him for school. It changed
his whole outlook; disillusioned him. He did finish and earned lots of
scholarships, but he did it by working the system. His cynicism was kind of
sad, really, but it all turned out okay in the end.
Tuck
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/25/2003 8:53:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sheran@...
writes:
There is no multiplier here. If you get an A in English it's 4 points, an A
in Chemistry 4 points. A D in Geometry, 1 point.
There are such things as AP classes in 11th and 12th grades that can earn you
extra points on your GPA, like an A in an AP English class might be worth 5
points because you did "harder" work.
They are all added up and averaged. So if you took 27 classes, you add up
the grades = numbers, divide by the number. If you FAIL a class, it counts
as a zero, even if you repeat it and get an A, the zero still counts in your
GPA.
So in reality you should have a GPA of somewhere between 5 and a possible
zero.
You do have to take a VA Passport Literacy Test to prove you are ready for
High School, if you don't pass it after two or three or four times, then you
are asked to do remedial work.
Of course in VA you have also heard about the dreaded SOL exams. Tests that
you MUST pass in certain subjects in order to be given a diploma of
graduation. Starting this year, if you don't pass these exams you do not get
a diploma of graduation.
So State by State you are apt to get very different answers.
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writes:
> There is no exam to pass in order to graduate from highschool. ThereBut in VA, where you are Shyrley, it's even different than the above example.
> are often exams in order to pass individual classes, but the only
> thing that you have to do in order to graduate is to have enough
> credits.
>
> Here's how it worked in my school. If you took an academic class,
> for example, academic algebra I, you got 4 credits multiplied by your
> grade. A's were worth 4, B's were 3, c's were 2, d's were 1. So an
> A in algebra I would be worth 16 points. (4 X 4). A C in albegra I
>
There is no multiplier here. If you get an A in English it's 4 points, an A
in Chemistry 4 points. A D in Geometry, 1 point.
There are such things as AP classes in 11th and 12th grades that can earn you
extra points on your GPA, like an A in an AP English class might be worth 5
points because you did "harder" work.
They are all added up and averaged. So if you took 27 classes, you add up
the grades = numbers, divide by the number. If you FAIL a class, it counts
as a zero, even if you repeat it and get an A, the zero still counts in your
GPA.
So in reality you should have a GPA of somewhere between 5 and a possible
zero.
You do have to take a VA Passport Literacy Test to prove you are ready for
High School, if you don't pass it after two or three or four times, then you
are asked to do remedial work.
Of course in VA you have also heard about the dreaded SOL exams. Tests that
you MUST pass in certain subjects in order to be given a diploma of
graduation. Starting this year, if you don't pass these exams you do not get
a diploma of graduation.
So State by State you are apt to get very different answers.
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