Re: kids and beliefs (really long)
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/16/2003 12:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
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[email protected] writes:
> We figured the questions would start when they were about 6-7, butHmm...it so happens I'm actually in the process of writing a book about this
> were prepared for them at any time. So last night...
>
> Jaiden started telling us all about Jesus, we asked him where he had
> heard about Jesus. He told us that gramy(my mom) had been telling him
> all about him, how he was like a saver, and a super hero...needless
> to say, Jason jumped on the phone and had a long talk with her. She
> said that she wouldn't do it again. We asked if Jaiden had been
> asking questions, and she said no, but that she had felt that it was
> her duty to make sure he knew all about god, that way he would be
> protected against our beliefs.
>
> Now, I don't know what to do, i feel like what I wanted for my kids,
> free choice, is gone. I feel like I have damamge to undo that I had
> never planned on. All the grandparents knew where we stood on
> religion and belief and we had no problem with them sharing there
> belifes with the kids, as long as it was honest and sought after. And
> we wanted to be there, if the kids were very young.
>
> So, I'm just not really sure where to go from here. Do I let it lie,
> and wait for Jaiden to come to us, do I start introducing other
> belife systems. I'm feeling very lost at the moment.
>
> Thank you to anyone who made it to the end of this. Any ideas would
> be helpful.
>
>
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/16/2003 12:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected] writes:
> We figured the questions would start when they were about 6-7, butHmm...it so happens I'm actually in the process of writing a book about this
> were prepared for them at any time. So last night...
>
> Jaiden started telling us all about Jesus, we asked him where he had
> heard about Jesus. He told us that gramy(my mom) had been telling him
> all about him, how he was like a saver, and a super hero...needless
> to say, Jason jumped on the phone and had a long talk with her. She
> said that she wouldn't do it again. We asked if Jaiden had been
> asking questions, and she said no, but that she had felt that it was
> her duty to make sure he knew all about god, that way he would be
> protected against our beliefs.
>
> Now, I don't know what to do, i feel like what I wanted for my kids,
> free choice, is gone. I feel like I have damamge to undo that I had
> never planned on. All the grandparents knew where we stood on
> religion and belief and we had no problem with them sharing there
> belifes with the kids, as long as it was honest and sought after. And
> we wanted to be there, if the kids were very young.
>
> So, I'm just not really sure where to go from here. Do I let it lie,
> and wait for Jaiden to come to us, do I start introducing other
> belife systems. I'm feeling very lost at the moment.
>
> Thank you to anyone who made it to the end of this. Any ideas would
> be helpful.
>
>
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/16/2003 12:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected] writes:
> We figured the questions would start when they were about 6-7, butHmm...it so happens I'm actually in the process of writing a book about this
> were prepared for them at any time. So last night...
>
> Jaiden started telling us all about Jesus, we asked him where he had
> heard about Jesus. He told us that gramy(my mom) had been telling him
> all about him, how he was like a saver, and a super hero...needless
> to say, Jason jumped on the phone and had a long talk with her. She
> said that she wouldn't do it again. We asked if Jaiden had been
> asking questions, and she said no, but that she had felt that it was
> her duty to make sure he knew all about god, that way he would be
> protected against our beliefs.
>
> Now, I don't know what to do, i feel like what I wanted for my kids,
> free choice, is gone. I feel like I have damamge to undo that I had
> never planned on. All the grandparents knew where we stood on
> religion and belief and we had no problem with them sharing there
> belifes with the kids, as long as it was honest and sought after. And
> we wanted to be there, if the kids were very young.
>
> So, I'm just not really sure where to go from here. Do I let it lie,
> and wait for Jaiden to come to us, do I start introducing other
> belife systems. I'm feeling very lost at the moment.
>
> Thank you to anyone who made it to the end of this. Any ideas would
> be helpful.
>
>
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/16/2003 12:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected] writes:
> We figured the questions would start when they were about 6-7, butHmm...it so happens I'm actually in the process of writing a book about this
> were prepared for them at any time. So last night...
>
> Jaiden started telling us all about Jesus, we asked him where he had
> heard about Jesus. He told us that gramy(my mom) had been telling him
> all about him, how he was like a saver, and a super hero...needless
> to say, Jason jumped on the phone and had a long talk with her. She
> said that she wouldn't do it again. We asked if Jaiden had been
> asking questions, and she said no, but that she had felt that it was
> her duty to make sure he knew all about god, that way he would be
> protected against our beliefs.
>
> Now, I don't know what to do, i feel like what I wanted for my kids,
> free choice, is gone. I feel like I have damamge to undo that I had
> never planned on. All the grandparents knew where we stood on
> religion and belief and we had no problem with them sharing there
> belifes with the kids, as long as it was honest and sought after. And
> we wanted to be there, if the kids were very young.
>
> So, I'm just not really sure where to go from here. Do I let it lie,
> and wait for Jaiden to come to us, do I start introducing other
> belife systems. I'm feeling very lost at the moment.
>
> Thank you to anyone who made it to the end of this. Any ideas would
> be helpful.
>
>
stuff....
Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.
All of this is just ways that people have to try to make sense of the world
and their place in it, and we tell stories and explore, and find the things
that make sense to us all.
Then ask him what HE thinks. Tell him you're around if he wants to ask
questions, or if he'd like to hear some of the stories that people have told
over time.
I understand why you're so upset with your mom, but this doesn't have to be a
bad thing. You'll just have to keep stressing that these are her BELIEFS, not
facts, and that he'll develop his own beliefs.
Kathryn
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/16/2003 5:21:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Tell your son that sometimes when people believe things really, really hard
that it makes it impossible to see other ways of looking at things.
As far as your mother is concerned: I'm having trouble right now not just
offering to go to her and slap her around a bit myself. What a trluy shitty
thing to do to you and your son. Ick!
Kathryn
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[email protected] writes:
> As far as I know, she didn't tell him about burning in hell, but she didEww, eww, eww!
> tell him that I would lie to him and she would tell him the truth.
>
>
Tell your son that sometimes when people believe things really, really hard
that it makes it impossible to see other ways of looking at things.
As far as your mother is concerned: I'm having trouble right now not just
offering to go to her and slap her around a bit myself. What a trluy shitty
thing to do to you and your son. Ick!
Kathryn
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Rebecca DeLong
KathrynJB@... wrote:
<<<Hmm...it so happens I'm actually in the process of writing a book about this
stuff....>>>
Cool, do you have a publishing date?
<<<Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.>>>
Thinggs are a lot better today, we all had a long chat and, I hope, got everything sorted out. This is the way that we had planned on approaching, from the begining. My mom just threw us for a loop.
Rebecca
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<<<Hmm...it so happens I'm actually in the process of writing a book about this
stuff....>>>
Cool, do you have a publishing date?
<<<Try not to worry. Your kids still are free to explore and discover what path
is right for them. I think you can start by talking to your kids about your
mom, and explain that she has very strong beliefs in Jesus, and that's why it
was so important to her to share them with him. Tell them that you and your
husband have different beliefs from her, and even from one another, and that
people all over the world have even more beliefs. Some people look to a God
or Goddess, and others to science, or teachings of really wise people. In
fact, some people don't even think that Jesus was God, but a really wise
teacher himself.>>>
Thinggs are a lot better today, we all had a long chat and, I hope, got everything sorted out. This is the way that we had planned on approaching, from the begining. My mom just threw us for a loop.
Rebecca
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