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Tia Leschke
> Dont think of it as running away from something "bad" as much as runninginvolved
> toward something much much better. If your girls do not want to be
> in thier fathers life ( and I suspect, if they do, its only out of guiltand
> obligation, considering the way he is treating them).. Then RUN as fast asSomething else to look at. He might fight your moving away. Some dads do.
> you can.. straight toward peace and productivity.
If it looked to a judge like you were moving *in order to* get them away,
and not for some other perfectly good reason (like a job change) you might
not be allowed to take them. Also, as far as homeschooling them goes, make
sure that you haven't agreed to give him a say in their education. The laws
vary, but where I live, sharing guardianship (as opposed to custody) gives
both parents a say in religious and educational issues. (I found that out
the hard way with my older son.) And judges tend to go with the "norm" in
those areas. It seems to be harder (from what I've seen) to make a change
*to* homeschooling after the divorce than to keep on homeschooling after a
divorce. Judges tend to want to keep things as much the same as possible
for the kids.
Not meant to scare but just a heads up.
Tia
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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coyote's corner
Hi,
If you move away - he'll have them all summer.
He's not paying child support and these people are verbally abusive. Your children are unhappy w/ him.
There's no way my ex would see my kids.
Janis
If you move away - he'll have them all summer.
He's not paying child support and these people are verbally abusive. Your children are unhappy w/ him.
There's no way my ex would see my kids.
Janis
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From: Tia Leschke
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need Help! Children are confused and hurt byunsuppo...
> Dont think of it as running away from something "bad" as much as running
> toward something much much better. If your girls do not want to be
involved
> in thier fathers life ( and I suspect, if they do, its only out of guilt
and
> obligation, considering the way he is treating them).. Then RUN as fast as
> you can.. straight toward peace and productivity.
Something else to look at. He might fight your moving away. Some dads do.
If it looked to a judge like you were moving *in order to* get them away,
and not for some other perfectly good reason (like a job change) you might
not be allowed to take them. Also, as far as homeschooling them goes, make
sure that you haven't agreed to give him a say in their education. The laws
vary, but where I live, sharing guardianship (as opposed to custody) gives
both parents a say in religious and educational issues. (I found that out
the hard way with my older son.) And judges tend to go with the "norm" in
those areas. It seems to be harder (from what I've seen) to make a change
*to* homeschooling after the divorce than to keep on homeschooling after a
divorce. Judges tend to want to keep things as much the same as possible
for the kids.
Not meant to scare but just a heads up.
Tia
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...
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From: "Tia Leschke" <leschke@...>
<<Also, as far as homeschooling them goes, make
sure that you haven't agreed to give him a say in their education. The laws
vary, but where I live, sharing guardianship (as opposed to custody) gives
both parents a say in religious and educational issues. (I found that out
the hard way with my older son.) And judges tend to go with the "norm" in
those areas. It seems to be harder (from what I've seen) to make a change
*to* homeschooling after the divorce than to keep on homeschooling after a
divorce. Judges tend to want to keep things as much the same as possible
for the kids.>>
Excellent point. I'ts written right in my divorce agreement that Tara's dad
and I have to "consult one another on questions of religion, discipline,
financial, moral, social, recreational and legal matters, school and
educational programs, changes in social environment, and non emergency
health care, both dental and medical."
Luckily for me he never really questioned anything but when I wanted to pull
her from school to homeschool her, he balked at that big time. Being that I
had such a rough time in court before regarding Tara, I wasn't willing to
chance doing it again for homeschooling. But like you saidm this came after
the divorce and from what I was told, did make a difference. If she was
homeschooling before the divorce, I would have had a much better chance
keeping things that way.
Mary B
<<Also, as far as homeschooling them goes, make
sure that you haven't agreed to give him a say in their education. The laws
vary, but where I live, sharing guardianship (as opposed to custody) gives
both parents a say in religious and educational issues. (I found that out
the hard way with my older son.) And judges tend to go with the "norm" in
those areas. It seems to be harder (from what I've seen) to make a change
*to* homeschooling after the divorce than to keep on homeschooling after a
divorce. Judges tend to want to keep things as much the same as possible
for the kids.>>
Excellent point. I'ts written right in my divorce agreement that Tara's dad
and I have to "consult one another on questions of religion, discipline,
financial, moral, social, recreational and legal matters, school and
educational programs, changes in social environment, and non emergency
health care, both dental and medical."
Luckily for me he never really questioned anything but when I wanted to pull
her from school to homeschool her, he balked at that big time. Being that I
had such a rough time in court before regarding Tara, I wasn't willing to
chance doing it again for homeschooling. But like you saidm this came after
the divorce and from what I was told, did make a difference. If she was
homeschooling before the divorce, I would have had a much better chance
keeping things that way.
Mary B
Ann Slaughter
He will not take them for the summer. They asked last year if they could spend the summer with them and it did not work out. He felt that I should not only pay him child support but also provide them with paid daycare will he and his wife were at work. I told him to go jump in the lake.The girls are glad that they did not go. We also just found out he and his wife are expecting a new baby. This will certainly cause waves. I have told my girls to welcome the new sister or brother with open arms. I understand that they are upset but they should be excited, it could be the brother they have always wanted....~Annie~~You may laugh at me because I am different. I laugh at you because you are all the same.~~--- On Wed 04/16, coyote's corner < jana@... > wrote:From: coyote's corner [mailto: jana@...]To: [email protected]: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:32:00 -0400Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need Help! Children are confused and hurt byunsuppo...Hi,If you move away - he'll have them all summer.He's not paying child support and these people are verbally abusive. Your children are unhappy w/ him.There's no way my ex would see my kids.Janis ----- Original Message ----- From: Tia Leschke To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need Help! Children are confused and hurt byunsuppo... > Dont think of it as running away from something "bad" as much as running > toward something much much better. If your girls do not want to be involved > in thier fathers life ( and I suspect, if they do, its only out of guilt and > obligation, considering the way he is treating them).. Then RUN as fast as > you can.. straight toward peace and productivity. Something else to look at. He might fight your moving away. Some dads do. If it looked to a judge like you were moving *in order to* get them away, and not for some other perfectly good reason (like a job change) you might not be allowed to take them. Also, as far as homeschooling them goes, make sure that you haven't agreed to give him a say in their education. The laws vary, but where I live, sharing guardianship (as opposed to custody) gives both parents a say in religious and educational issues. (I found that out the hard way with my older son.) And judges tend to go with the "norm" in those areas. It seems to be harder (from what I've seen) to make a change *to* homeschooling after the divorce than to keep on homeschooling after a divorce. Judges tend to want to keep things as much the same as possible for the kids. Not meant to scare but just a heads up. Tia "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin leschke@... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ~~~~ Don't forget! If you change topics, change the subject line! ~~~~ If you have questions, concerns or problems with this list, please email the moderator, Joyce Fetteroll (fetteroll@...), or the list owner, Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@...). To unsubscribe from this group, click on the following link or address an email to: [email protected] Visit the Unschooling website: http://www.unschooling.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I was awarded "custody". I says " Ann has the right and responsibility regarding the rearing and overall well-being of the childrens growth and development, including but not limited to, choice of school, course of study, extensive travel away from home,..."blah blah blah... "Ann Shall not be required to consult with Jason as to decision making on a day-to-day basis."...It also states that each of us is intitled to two weeks of uninterrupted vistitation. It states nothing about summers. It also states that he is allowed a min. of 2 weekends of month and that modification of increased visits is up to me.I know he would fight me on anything else.~Annie~~You may laugh at me because I am different. I laugh at you because you are all the same.~~--- On Wed 04/16, Mary < mummy124@... > wrote:From: Mary [mailto: mummy124@...]To: [email protected]: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:24:07 -0400Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need Help! Children are confused and hurt byunsuppo...From: "Tia Leschke" Excellent point. I'ts written right in my divorce agreement that Tara's dadand I have to "consult one another on questions of religion, discipline,financial, moral, social, recreational and legal matters, school andeducational programs, changes in social environment, and non emergencyhealth care, both dental and medical."Luckily for me he never really questioned anything but when I wanted to pullher from school to homeschool her, he balked at that big time. Being that Ihad such a rough time in court before regarding Tara, I wasn't willing tochance doing it again for homeschooling. But like you saidm this came afterthe divorce and from what I was told, did make a difference. If she washomeschooling before the divorce, I would have had a much better chancekeeping things that way.Mary B
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Why are you telling them how to feel about this baby?? Aren't those their feelings?
Brianna doesn't like her 6 y.o. half sister - right now - she's ok w/ that. I'm accepting of it. That way we get to talk about it.
Brianna doesn't like her 6 y.o. half sister - right now - she's ok w/ that. I'm accepting of it. That way we get to talk about it.
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Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need Help! Children are confused and hurt byunsuppo...
He will not take them for the summer. They asked last year if they could spend the summer with them and it did not work out. He felt that I should not only pay him child support but also provide them with paid daycare will he and his wife were at work. I told him to go jump in the lake.The girls are glad that they did not go. We also just found out he and his wife are expecting a new baby. This will certainly cause waves. I have told my girls to welcome the new sister or brother with open arms. I understand that they are upset but they should be excited, it could be the brother they have always wanted....~Annie~~You may laugh at me because I am different. I laugh at you because you are all the same.~~--- On Wed 04/16, coyote's corner < jana@... > wrote:From: coyote's corner [mailto: jana@...]To: [email protected]: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:32:00 -0400Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need Help! Children are confused and hurt byunsuppo...Hi,If you move away - he'll have them all summer.He's not paying child support and these people are verbally abusive. Your children are unhappy w/ him.There's no way my ex would see my kids.Janis ----- Original Message ----- From: Tia Leschke To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Need Help! Children are confused and hurt byunsuppo... > Dont think of it as running away from something "bad" as much as running > toward something much much better. If your girls do not want to be involved > in thier fathers life ( and I suspect, if they do, its only out of guilt and > obligation, considering the way he is treating them).. Then RUN as fast as > you can.. straight toward peace and productivity. Something else to look at. He might fight your moving away. Some dads do. If it looked to a judge like you were moving *in order to* get them away, and not for some other perfectly good reason (like a job change) you might not be allowed to take them. Also, as far as homeschooling them goes, make sure that you haven't agreed to give him a say in their education. The laws vary, but where I live, sharing guardianship (as opposed to custody) gives both parents a say in religious and educational issues. (I found that out the hard way with my older son.) And judges tend to go with the "norm" in those areas. It seems to be harder (from what I've seen) to make a change *to* homeschooling after the divorce than to keep on homeschooling after a divorce. Judges tend to want to keep things as much the same as possible for the kids. Not meant to scare but just a heads up. Tia "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin leschke@... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ~~~~ Don't forget! If you change topics, change the subject line! ~~~~ If you have questions, concerns or problems with this list, please email the moderator, Joyce Fetteroll (fetteroll@...), or the list owner, Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@...). To unsubscribe from this group, click on the following link or address an email to: [email protected] Visit the Unschooling website: http://www.unschooling.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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From: " Ann Slaughter" <annabell1972@...>
<<I was awarded "custody". I says " Ann has the right and responsibility
regarding the rearing and overall well-being of the childrens growth and
development, including but not limited to, choice of school, course of
study, extensive travel away from home,..."blah blah blah... "Ann Shall not
be required to consult with Jason as to decision making on a day-to-day
basis."...It also states that each of us is intitled to two weeks of
uninterrupted vistitation. It states nothing about summers. It also states
that he is allowed a min. of 2 weekends of month and that modification of
increased visits is up to me.I know he would fight me on anything else>>
Well that all sounds very much in your favor on a lot of counts. I would do
some more checking possibly about the court systems there and the judges and
homeschooling. Ask around. Talk to someone in the system. Ask an attorney.
Just in case. If what you hear is favorable, I would do as you wish.
Mary B
<<I was awarded "custody". I says " Ann has the right and responsibility
regarding the rearing and overall well-being of the childrens growth and
development, including but not limited to, choice of school, course of
study, extensive travel away from home,..."blah blah blah... "Ann Shall not
be required to consult with Jason as to decision making on a day-to-day
basis."...It also states that each of us is intitled to two weeks of
uninterrupted vistitation. It states nothing about summers. It also states
that he is allowed a min. of 2 weekends of month and that modification of
increased visits is up to me.I know he would fight me on anything else>>
Well that all sounds very much in your favor on a lot of counts. I would do
some more checking possibly about the court systems there and the judges and
homeschooling. Ask around. Talk to someone in the system. Ask an attorney.
Just in case. If what you hear is favorable, I would do as you wish.
Mary B