sablehs

TeresaBeen busy all day today but....I wanted to give a special note to you to say I'm Very Sorry for misunderstanding the comment you made about Santa Clause <g>As always a big part email communication and a bit of ASS U ME {ing} on my part. LOL And for the record, I like to at least be big enough to admit it all out to everyone when I put my own foot in my mouth. :-bLove and Light to You and Yours,Tracy


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In a message dated 4/12/03 11:03:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sablehs@... writes:

> TeresaBeen busy all day today but....I wanted to give a special note to you
> to say I'm Very Sorry for misunderstanding the comment you made about Santa
> Clause <g>

Hey, no problem at all. I also realized that such a short reply must have
left a lot to be "assumed" LOL. But seriously, about Santa Claus. I DID
believe in him with all my heart, and that made him very real to me.
Somehow, my mother played the "Santa" card just right.. lol, and I was never
left with feelings of being decieved. I know lots of folks think its not
right to "lie" to kids about Santa, but to me, it was not a lie, he was
really REAL as long as I believed in him.

When I was about 10 or 11, I asked my Mom, "Is Santa Claus real?" She said,
"What do you think?" I said, "Well, I think its really you and Daddy leaving
our gifts" .. She said, well, are we "real"? I smiled and said YEAH!... And
that was the end of it. I knew Santa was "really" Mom and Dad, but I played
along with it til I was married!. I even insisted that Santa bring me
something for the first few years of my marriage. And Santa still comes to
our house, even though JP is beginning to put things together. AND, Santa
still gives me some $$$ for Christmas every year in a card marked "Love,
Santa" (thats from my Daddy, Santa, not my husband, Santa.. lol)

Teresa


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sablehs

Santa comes here as well, even though my oldest two girls{almost 10 and 7} have put it together. And this is very much how we did things when they did ask.Tracy

grlynbl@... wrote:In a message dated I know lots of folks think its not
right to "lie" to kids about Santa, but to me, it was not a lie, he was
really REAL as long as I believed in him.

When I was about 10 or 11, I asked my Mom, "Is Santa Claus real?" She said,
"What do you think?" I said, "Well, I think its really you and Daddy leaving
our gifts" .. She said, well, are we "real"? I smiled and said YEAH!... And
that was the end of it. I knew Santa was "really" Mom and Dad, but I played
along with it til I was married!. I even insisted that Santa bring me
something for the first few years of my marriage. And Santa still comes to
our house, even though JP is beginning to put things together. AND, Santa
still gives me some $$$ for Christmas every year in a card marked "Love,
Santa" (thats from my Daddy, Santa, not my husband, Santa.. lol)

Teresa


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From: <grlynbl@...>

<<But seriously, about Santa Claus. I DID
believe in him with all my heart, and that made him very real to me.
Somehow, my mother played the "Santa" card just right.. lol, and I was never
left with feelings of being decieved. I know lots of folks think its not
right to "lie" to kids about Santa, but to me, it was not a lie, he was
really REAL as long as I believed in him.>>



Wow!! I was exhausted afer reading your post. You sure put a lot of effort
into this whole Santa thing!!! I sure hope it all works out the way you are
hoping for.

I know exactly what you mean about it all though. With Tara I was so
convincing about Santa. She asked a million questions and I worked so hard
on all the answers. Well I was so convincing that the poor kid was 12 and
still believeing in Santa. The kids she went to school with that it was
hysterical. Needless to say she was disappointed when she found out
otherwise. (her dad told her as he thought she already knew) I can't say
that she ever really distrusted me because of the whole Santa thing but I
vowed never to do it again.

My husband was heartbroken when our kids started coming. He loved the Santa
story. So when Joseph was old enough to ask, I pretty much left it up to my
husband. And when Joseph got older yet and asked me, I would ask him what he
thought. It's worked that way ever since. Kids are 8,7 and 2. I think they
still believe in Santa and we do have a gift or two from him at Christmas.
The kids won't go to see him though or put out cookies or anything. It's
really not a big deal around here and I think that will help make it better
for them to find out that there's no man flying through the sky with
reindeer.

Mary B

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In a message dated 4/13/2003 7:03:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:

> Well I was so convincing that the poor kid was 12 and
> still believeing in Santa. The kids she went to school with that it was
> hysterical.

My kids are dd 23 ds 21 ds 18 dd 14. If you ask any one of them they will
tell you there IS a Santa Claus. No questions, end of discussion. Two of
them live in their own homes. The come to my home to sleep on Christmas Eve,
they hang their stockings without fail, they leave milk and cookies and
carrots. (and I have to remind "Santa" to go eat the cookies and drink the
milk)

They wake up early early and joyfully run from their rooms to see what Santa
has brought them.

Now other mostly grown children want to be here too. We always have a
special meal and go to Church together and to the live Nativity on Christmas
Eve. I started that tradition as my children got older and I fretted that
they would marry and have other obligations so which ever day they could join
us, be it Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, I wanted to be special. Little did
I know that all other bets are off at Christmas, they are going to be HERE.

I love that. I also realize that the other two might find mates who have
families who they want to be with too. But for now, it's great. They love
the mystery of it, the joy of being together and for a least a day, they are
wrapped up in the magic of it all.

Magic and wonder and joy are great to experience at any age! We have a slate
that hangs on the door that says WE BELIEVE! with a Santa on it that one of
the kids bought and hung there.

The Easter Bunny still comes too, even big kids love candy and goodies and
season passes to Kings Dominion that always find their way into the baskets.

How long can/should we keep this up? My grandmother died three years ago at
age 88, she lived alone until the last two years of her life. Every
Christmas Eve she would get out her "socks" (which was a REAL knee sock) pin
them together and put them over the back of a kitchen chair (and she had a
fireplace).

The next morning she would go to her stocking which was filled with all kinds
of goodies that grandma types like, so excited. I've seen her repeat this
all my life.

Here's the real message, SHE filled her stocking or maybe it was Santa, but
sometimes we would show up Christmas morning and no one had been there but
her and there was that filled up to the brim pair of socks hanging there,
waiting for the kids or the grand kids or great grandkids to show up and
share her big surprise with.

So, I guess the magic of Santa is there, IF you want it.

glena who has enjoyed hearing about all of your experiences with Santa



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Mary

From: <rubyprincesstsg@...>

<< My kids are dd 23 ds 21 ds 18 dd 14. If you ask any one of them they
will
tell you there IS a Santa Claus. No questions, end of discussion. Two of
them live in their own homes. The come to my home to sleep on Christmas
Eve,
they hang their stockings without fail, they leave milk and cookies and
carrots. (and I have to remind "Santa" to go eat the cookies and drink the
milk) >>



Are you actually saying that your children and grandmother really and truly
believe a fat guy in a furry suit appears in their house with goodies? Or is
it just a wonderful family tradition that they enjoy yet all together now?

Mary B

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In a message dated 4/14/2003 11:34:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mummy124@... writes:

> Are you actually saying that your children and grandmother really and truly
> believe a fat guy in a furry suit appears in their house with goodies? Or
> is
> it just a wonderful family tradition that they enjoy yet all together now?
>

Quoted from the past message:

<They love the mystery of it, the joy of being together and for a least a
day, they are
wrapped up in the magic of it all.

So, I guess the magic of Santa is there, IF you want it.>

I'm not asking them if they REALLY believe. They say they believe in Santa,
they tell everyone that they believe in Santa. Santa comes they have fun.
They get their picture taken with Santa every year together and apart from a
couple of uncomfortable years when the boys were middle teen agers they enjoy
it. It's something they look forward too.

When they say to me there is no Santa, there is no Easter Bunny, stop this
nonsense, I don't believe in it. I will stop it. They enjoy it, they look
forward to it, it's a family event.

Heck my 23 year old even tried to spend the night and put her wisdom teeth
under her pillow for the tooth fairy.

Life as an adult can be boring sometimes. Especially those in between years
when you feel like you should act all grown up but no children of your own to
spend the holidays with so if mine want to be indulged a little longer or
forever really, it's not a problem for me.

It's an adventure. We have LOTS of traditions that we do in the winter
leading up to Christmas. Lots of adult things too, like picking a family
from the angel tree and shopping for them. Doing the 12 days of Christmas
for a family we all select. (if you don't know what that is, I can explain
it but it's kinda involved but great to do as a family).

So a fat man in a furry red suit? They see him every year, so of course
there is a Santa. Is this man at the mall the TRUE Santa? Of course not,
he's the earth science teacher at the middle school, he wears flippers on his
feet instead of boots, he can't be the REAL Santa.

The REAL Santa is in your heart where you can carry him for as long as you
want. It's the magical spirit of make believe that somehow comes true. It's
many things wrapped into one.

glena


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