Re: Brainstorming, and What is an Education?
Tanya
I would have to agree with what is being said in here...
About have a place on the site with info on the members. I too cannot remember
who goes with what information.
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About have a place on the site with info on the members. I too cannot remember
who goes with what information.
Tanya (WA State)
>From: KaeKaeB2@...I
>
>Evening
><<
> And what would this Golden Rule be? Just for future reference purposes...>>
>
>Ah, the one that says treat folks like you would like to be treated. ;) Some
>lists have rules about posting this or that or fowarding stuff.....and
>sometimes folks get upset and sound very tense. Email can be hard at times,
>since we are doing without tones of voices and body language. So, if we
>remember to read as if our best friend were the one writing and we treat each
>other the way we want to be treated we won't have a contentious flame war.
>don't know about you all, but I don't have time for those things. :)==================================================
>
> <<As for brainstorming, sure! I'd love to. You may be sorry you asked!
> I would love to see a permanent listing (perhaps on the Web site?) with all
> the pertinent information about each list member, such as: geographic
> location, ages/genders of children, interests, hobbies, and/or anything
> else that might prove useful. While it is lovely to have folks include
> this information in their intro messages, I find I cannot remember all of
> it, or who matches which information.>>
>
>Onelist has a great number of accessories we can use. Many people are
>careful about the kind of information that is posted, but everything here
>would be limited to just the people on this list.
>
> <<I
> How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodging
> for travel purposes? I think travel is a wonderful aspect made possible by
> the freedom from madated school schedules that homeschooling, and
> Unschooling in particular, provide. We have a 2,000 sq. ft. home with a
> couple of extra bedrooms and/or couch space and we happen to live within an
> hour of Glacier and Yellowstone National Parks! Anyone interested in group
> trips, get togethers, summer cookouts, or anything else of that nature in
> Idaho or the surrounding area?>>
>
>This is so much fun! Over the years I've gotten together with a great number
>of online friends. Matter of fact I spent 8 days of May in ABQ New Mexico
>with an online friend.
>
> >Le'ts define education then.. what do you see them doing in order to
>*become
> >educated*?
> Boy! That's a tall order!
><<need to have good reading, writing and math
> skills. That includes the ability to function well in the world with daily
> math skills, being able to communicate their thoughts articulately and in
> an intelligent manner in writing, and being able to read anything
> non-technical (and some things that are) that interest them without feeling
> unable to comprehend or decipher it. >>
>
>We could talk for hours about what constitues *good* and *fuction well*. <G>
>Most of what you write I hope happens for my children.
>
> <<It is also important for them to have an understanding of the sciences;
> Biology, Chemistry, Environmental, Astrological, etc... and how they affect
> their daily lives and the world at large.>>
>
>Well, I love knowing the things I know, but there are a great many people
>living wonderful, full, productive lives who have not one factiod about
>chemistry stored in their brain..... that is stored as *chemistry* . :)
>
><<They should have a pretty good
> idea what the history of our Nation and the world are, both celebrated and
> shameful events/circumstances. They should understand how ours, and maybe
> some other major political systems operate, and their place in them. They
> will need a woking knowledge of computers and their trappings as well. A
> thorough education should also include an appreciation of, and perhaps
> experience creating, the fine arts, a healthy dose of multi-cultural
> experiences and some theology. >>
>
>I would agree that these things are important, but I'm not sure that each and
>every person needs to touch on these things in order to be *educated*.
>
> <<. Also remember, this is the
> opinion of a single, fallible individual, and I may be leaving something
> out. >>
>
>We all leave something out!! I have no interest in knowing so many things.
>Ancient Chinese History just holds nothing for me...... but to another it
>could be life changing. Now ask me about babies, midwifery, unschooling.
>some theology, politics....
>
><< What a wonderfully generous offer, Thank you! It is always nice to find
> new avenues of support and information. >>
>
>It's what we're here for. :)
>
><>
>Rambling is good. We stumble onto some of our best stuff just by rambling
>around at this house. Actually you could say that by rambling around like
>this with good friends is how I became educated. :)
>
>Lisa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall
At 07:25 PM 5/31/99 EDT, you wrote:
As for brainstorming, sure! I'd love to. You may be sorry you asked!
I would love to see a permanent listing (perhaps on the Web site?) with all
the pertinent information about each list member, such as: geographic
location, ages/genders of children, interests, hobbies, and/or anything
else that might prove useful. While it is lovely to have folks include
this information in their intro messages, I find I cannot remember all of
it, or who matches which information. It is unwieldy to try to preserve
all of these messages, and both impractical and inconvenient to try to comb
them for references when you want to verify your facts. But I think it is
invaluable info to have on hand for the purposes of networking/connecting
with Unschoolers who may face similar situations as you do, have kids the
same ages, are in your area, etc... If people are concearned about privacy,
we could have the Web site email a password to the listing to all list
members...?
How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodging
for travel purposes? I think travel is a wonderful aspect made possible by
the freedom from madated school schedules that homeschooling, and
Unschooling in particular, provide. We have a 2,000 sq. ft. home with a
couple of extra bedrooms and/or couch space and we happen to live within an
hour of Glacier and Yellowstone National Parks! Anyone interested in group
trips, get togethers, summer cookouts, or anything else of that nature in
Idaho or the surrounding area?
personally, believe "a good education" comprises, but cannot speak for my
husband or anyone else for that matter. This is over and above what a
person needs emotionally and psychologically to function as a happy and
productive member of our society and the world. Please feel free to
translate this OUT of EduSpeak. Obviously, having completed a primary
education, a young adult would need to have good reading, writing and math
skills. That includes the ability to function well in the world with daily
math skills, being able to communicate their thoughts articulately and in
an intelligent manner in writing, and being able to read anything
non-technical (and some things that are) that interest them without feeling
unable to comprehend or decipher it.
It is also important for them to have an understanding of the sciences;
Biology, Chemistry, Environmental, Astrological, etc... and how they affect
their daily lives and the world at large. They should have a pretty good
idea what the history of our Nation and the world are, both celebrated and
shameful events/circumstances. They should understand how ours, and maybe
some other major political systems operate, and their place in them. They
will need a woking knowledge of computers and their trappings as well. A
thorough education should also include an appreciation of, and perhaps
experience creating, the fine arts, a healthy dose of multi-cultural
experiences and some theology.
Of course, more specialized areas will arise in every persons education,
dependent upon their individual or family tastes and interests, and there
are far too many fields to go into here. Also remember, this is the
opinion of a single, fallible individual, and I may be leaving something
out.
Nanci says:> <<. However, we were not counting on falling in love with
the listing for an 8 year old little girl in Foster Care! Well! This
changes everything! Hopefully she will turn out to be a good match for us,
once our homestudy is completed
going on with her and we can help find materials and ideas for the two/five
of you.
What a wonderfully generous offer, Thank you! It is always nice to find
new avenues of support and information. I Hope you can find something
usefull in this huge message, and I wasn't just rambling, which is how it
felt.
Nanci K.
>From: KaeKaeB2@... Lisa Kof
>Know what.. this list is pretty new, we opened it with the site. So none of
>us relly knows how much mail we'll be able to generate. <G> Do you all want
>a busy, busy list?? Let's brainstorm just what we do and do not want out
>this list. Right now we don't have any other list rule, other than theGolden
>Rule.And what would this Golden Rule be? Just for future reference purposes...
As for brainstorming, sure! I'd love to. You may be sorry you asked!
I would love to see a permanent listing (perhaps on the Web site?) with all
the pertinent information about each list member, such as: geographic
location, ages/genders of children, interests, hobbies, and/or anything
else that might prove useful. While it is lovely to have folks include
this information in their intro messages, I find I cannot remember all of
it, or who matches which information. It is unwieldy to try to preserve
all of these messages, and both impractical and inconvenient to try to comb
them for references when you want to verify your facts. But I think it is
invaluable info to have on hand for the purposes of networking/connecting
with Unschoolers who may face similar situations as you do, have kids the
same ages, are in your area, etc... If people are concearned about privacy,
we could have the Web site email a password to the listing to all list
members...?
How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodging
for travel purposes? I think travel is a wonderful aspect made possible by
the freedom from madated school schedules that homeschooling, and
Unschooling in particular, provide. We have a 2,000 sq. ft. home with a
couple of extra bedrooms and/or couch space and we happen to live within an
hour of Glacier and Yellowstone National Parks! Anyone interested in group
trips, get togethers, summer cookouts, or anything else of that nature in
Idaho or the surrounding area?
>Le'ts define education then.. what do you see them doing in order to *becomeBoy! That's a tall order! I will do my best to descibe what I,
>educated*?
personally, believe "a good education" comprises, but cannot speak for my
husband or anyone else for that matter. This is over and above what a
person needs emotionally and psychologically to function as a happy and
productive member of our society and the world. Please feel free to
translate this OUT of EduSpeak. Obviously, having completed a primary
education, a young adult would need to have good reading, writing and math
skills. That includes the ability to function well in the world with daily
math skills, being able to communicate their thoughts articulately and in
an intelligent manner in writing, and being able to read anything
non-technical (and some things that are) that interest them without feeling
unable to comprehend or decipher it.
It is also important for them to have an understanding of the sciences;
Biology, Chemistry, Environmental, Astrological, etc... and how they affect
their daily lives and the world at large. They should have a pretty good
idea what the history of our Nation and the world are, both celebrated and
shameful events/circumstances. They should understand how ours, and maybe
some other major political systems operate, and their place in them. They
will need a woking knowledge of computers and their trappings as well. A
thorough education should also include an appreciation of, and perhaps
experience creating, the fine arts, a healthy dose of multi-cultural
experiences and some theology.
Of course, more specialized areas will arise in every persons education,
dependent upon their individual or family tastes and interests, and there
are far too many fields to go into here. Also remember, this is the
opinion of a single, fallible individual, and I may be leaving something
out.
Nanci says:> <<. However, we were not counting on falling in love with
the listing for an 8 year old little girl in Foster Care! Well! This
changes everything! Hopefully she will turn out to be a good match for us,
once our homestudy is completed
> and we are able to get more details about her and her history.>>Lisa's response: >You can come here to the list and talk all about what's
going on with her and we can help find materials and ideas for the two/five
of you.
What a wonderfully generous offer, Thank you! It is always nice to find
new avenues of support and information. I Hope you can find something
usefull in this huge message, and I wasn't just rambling, which is how it
felt.
Nanci K.
Diana Asberry
Ditto:
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Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Brainstorming, and What is an Education?
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:11:31 -0600
From: Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall <tn-k4of5@...>
And what would this Golden Rule be? Just for future reference purposes...
I would love to see a permanent listing (perhaps on the Web site?) with all
the pertinent information about each list member, such as: geographic
location, ages/genders of children, interests, hobbies, and/or anything
else that might prove useful
I cannot remember all of
it, or who matches which information.
Nanci K.
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:11:31 -0600
From: Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall <tn-k4of5@...>
And what would this Golden Rule be? Just for future reference purposes...
I would love to see a permanent listing (perhaps on the Web site?) with all
the pertinent information about each list member, such as: geographic
location, ages/genders of children, interests, hobbies, and/or anything
else that might prove useful
I cannot remember all of
it, or who matches which information.
Nanci K.
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Evening
<<
And what would this Golden Rule be? Just for future reference purposes...>>
Ah, the one that says treat folks like you would like to be treated. ;) Some
lists have rules about posting this or that or fowarding stuff.....and
sometimes folks get upset and sound very tense. Email can be hard at times,
since we are doing without tones of voices and body language. So, if we
remember to read as if our best friend were the one writing and we treat each
other the way we want to be treated we won't have a contentious flame war. I
don't know about you all, but I don't have time for those things. :)
<<As for brainstorming, sure! I'd love to. You may be sorry you asked!
I would love to see a permanent listing (perhaps on the Web site?) with all
the pertinent information about each list member, such as: geographic
location, ages/genders of children, interests, hobbies, and/or anything
else that might prove useful. While it is lovely to have folks include
this information in their intro messages, I find I cannot remember all of
it, or who matches which information.>>
Onelist has a great number of accessories we can use. Many people are
careful about the kind of information that is posted, but everything here
would be limited to just the people on this list.
<<I
How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodging
for travel purposes? I think travel is a wonderful aspect made possible by
the freedom from madated school schedules that homeschooling, and
Unschooling in particular, provide. We have a 2,000 sq. ft. home with a
couple of extra bedrooms and/or couch space and we happen to live within an
hour of Glacier and Yellowstone National Parks! Anyone interested in group
trips, get togethers, summer cookouts, or anything else of that nature in
Idaho or the surrounding area?>>
This is so much fun! Over the years I've gotten together with a great number
of online friends. Matter of fact I spent 8 days of May in ABQ New Mexico
with an online friend.
<<need to have good reading, writing and math
skills. That includes the ability to function well in the world with daily
math skills, being able to communicate their thoughts articulately and in
an intelligent manner in writing, and being able to read anything
non-technical (and some things that are) that interest them without feeling
unable to comprehend or decipher it. >>
We could talk for hours about what constitues *good* and *fuction well*. <G>
Most of what you write I hope happens for my children.
<<It is also important for them to have an understanding of the sciences;
Biology, Chemistry, Environmental, Astrological, etc... and how they affect
their daily lives and the world at large.>>
Well, I love knowing the things I know, but there are a great many people
living wonderful, full, productive lives who have not one factiod about
chemistry stored in their brain..... that is stored as *chemistry* . :)
<<They should have a pretty good
idea what the history of our Nation and the world are, both celebrated and
shameful events/circumstances. They should understand how ours, and maybe
some other major political systems operate, and their place in them. They
will need a woking knowledge of computers and their trappings as well. A
thorough education should also include an appreciation of, and perhaps
experience creating, the fine arts, a healthy dose of multi-cultural
experiences and some theology. >>
I would agree that these things are important, but I'm not sure that each and
every person needs to touch on these things in order to be *educated*.
<<. Also remember, this is the
opinion of a single, fallible individual, and I may be leaving something
out. >>
We all leave something out!! I have no interest in knowing so many things.
Ancient Chinese History just holds nothing for me...... but to another it
could be life changing. Now ask me about babies, midwifery, unschooling.
some theology, politics....
<< What a wonderfully generous offer, Thank you! It is always nice to find
new avenues of support and information. >>
It's what we're here for. :)
<>
Rambling is good. We stumble onto some of our best stuff just by rambling
around at this house. Actually you could say that by rambling around like
this with good friends is how I became educated. :)
Lisa
<<
And what would this Golden Rule be? Just for future reference purposes...>>
Ah, the one that says treat folks like you would like to be treated. ;) Some
lists have rules about posting this or that or fowarding stuff.....and
sometimes folks get upset and sound very tense. Email can be hard at times,
since we are doing without tones of voices and body language. So, if we
remember to read as if our best friend were the one writing and we treat each
other the way we want to be treated we won't have a contentious flame war. I
don't know about you all, but I don't have time for those things. :)
<<As for brainstorming, sure! I'd love to. You may be sorry you asked!
I would love to see a permanent listing (perhaps on the Web site?) with all
the pertinent information about each list member, such as: geographic
location, ages/genders of children, interests, hobbies, and/or anything
else that might prove useful. While it is lovely to have folks include
this information in their intro messages, I find I cannot remember all of
it, or who matches which information.>>
Onelist has a great number of accessories we can use. Many people are
careful about the kind of information that is posted, but everything here
would be limited to just the people on this list.
<<I
How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodging
for travel purposes? I think travel is a wonderful aspect made possible by
the freedom from madated school schedules that homeschooling, and
Unschooling in particular, provide. We have a 2,000 sq. ft. home with a
couple of extra bedrooms and/or couch space and we happen to live within an
hour of Glacier and Yellowstone National Parks! Anyone interested in group
trips, get togethers, summer cookouts, or anything else of that nature in
Idaho or the surrounding area?>>
This is so much fun! Over the years I've gotten together with a great number
of online friends. Matter of fact I spent 8 days of May in ABQ New Mexico
with an online friend.
>Le'ts define education then.. what do you see them doing in order to*become
>educated*?Boy! That's a tall order!
<<need to have good reading, writing and math
skills. That includes the ability to function well in the world with daily
math skills, being able to communicate their thoughts articulately and in
an intelligent manner in writing, and being able to read anything
non-technical (and some things that are) that interest them without feeling
unable to comprehend or decipher it. >>
We could talk for hours about what constitues *good* and *fuction well*. <G>
Most of what you write I hope happens for my children.
<<It is also important for them to have an understanding of the sciences;
Biology, Chemistry, Environmental, Astrological, etc... and how they affect
their daily lives and the world at large.>>
Well, I love knowing the things I know, but there are a great many people
living wonderful, full, productive lives who have not one factiod about
chemistry stored in their brain..... that is stored as *chemistry* . :)
<<They should have a pretty good
idea what the history of our Nation and the world are, both celebrated and
shameful events/circumstances. They should understand how ours, and maybe
some other major political systems operate, and their place in them. They
will need a woking knowledge of computers and their trappings as well. A
thorough education should also include an appreciation of, and perhaps
experience creating, the fine arts, a healthy dose of multi-cultural
experiences and some theology. >>
I would agree that these things are important, but I'm not sure that each and
every person needs to touch on these things in order to be *educated*.
<<. Also remember, this is the
opinion of a single, fallible individual, and I may be leaving something
out. >>
We all leave something out!! I have no interest in knowing so many things.
Ancient Chinese History just holds nothing for me...... but to another it
could be life changing. Now ask me about babies, midwifery, unschooling.
some theology, politics....
<< What a wonderfully generous offer, Thank you! It is always nice to find
new avenues of support and information. >>
It's what we're here for. :)
<>
Rambling is good. We stumble onto some of our best stuff just by rambling
around at this house. Actually you could say that by rambling around like
this with good friends is how I became educated. :)
Lisa
[email protected]
In a message dated 6/1/1999 9:07:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tn-k4of5@... writes:
<< How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodging
for travel purposes? >>
I think that is a great idea. I live in Pittsburgh and would welcome a visit
from another homeschool family even if you were just passing through.
Cindy Berkowitz
tn-k4of5@... writes:
<< How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodging
for travel purposes? >>
I think that is a great idea. I live in Pittsburgh and would welcome a visit
from another homeschool family even if you were just passing through.
Cindy Berkowitz
Lois Hoover
>From: Pinderscmb@...visit
>
>I think that is a great idea. I live in Pittsburgh and would welcome a
>from another homeschool family even if you were just passing through.Cindy,
>
We will be driving through Pittsburgh I believe July 9th or 10. You'll have
to let us know privately where you are in Pgh and we'll stop by.
Lois
Robin Stark
> How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharing lodgingI like this idea, too. Although, no one would want to stay in my house --
> for travel purposes? >>
>
>I think that is a great idea. I live in Pittsburgh and would welcome a visit
>from another homeschool family even if you were just passing through.
>
>Cindy Berkowitz
I'm not a very good housekeeper -- but I do have a tent trailer that sleeps
four comfortably and six if you REALLY like each other. Tacoma, Washington
-- garden spot of the Northwest!! (I made that up.)
I'd like to go somewhere warm -- in April. Hmmmm .... where would that be?
- - - - - - - -
Robin Stark
B & T Simpson
>><< How about the idea of swapping or timesharing or just plain sharinglodging
> for travel purposes? >>visit
>
>I think that is a great idea. I live in Pittsburgh and would welcome a
>from another homeschool family even if you were just passing through.>>>I live in the heart of Amish country! in N.E. Ohio, buggies go by my house
on a daily basis, there is an amish farm to visit, warthers carvings,
peuter carvings, cheese factories, and don't forget about cedar point (about
2hours away), great lakes science center, rock and roll hall of fame, and
seaworld, cleveland zoo, (all about 1 hour away!)
and then there is the football hall of fame 15 minutes away!
Tanya Ohio
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In a message dated 6/3/99 6:27:33 AM EST, michigan@... writes:
<< I live in the heart of Amish country! in N.E. Ohio, buggies go by my house
on a daily basis, there is an amish farm to visit, warthers carvings,
peuter carvings, cheese factories, and don't forget about cedar point (about
2hours away), great lakes science center, rock and roll hall of fame, and
seaworld, cleveland zoo, (all about 1 hour away!)
and then there is the football hall of fame 15 minutes away! >>
OK Tanya, quit braggin!!! lol! You are making me jealous, I will have to bug
my dh to take a trip up your way, sounds delightful.
Teresa
<< I live in the heart of Amish country! in N.E. Ohio, buggies go by my house
on a daily basis, there is an amish farm to visit, warthers carvings,
peuter carvings, cheese factories, and don't forget about cedar point (about
2hours away), great lakes science center, rock and roll hall of fame, and
seaworld, cleveland zoo, (all about 1 hour away!)
and then there is the football hall of fame 15 minutes away! >>
OK Tanya, quit braggin!!! lol! You are making me jealous, I will have to bug
my dh to take a trip up your way, sounds delightful.
Teresa