silvertree

I really liked Child's Work as well. My favorite unschooling book is The
Teenage Liberation Handbook by Grace Llewellyn. It applies for all ages and
was a pretty powerful book to read as an adult and come to terms what I
missed out on as a result of my school experience.
Linda

----- Original Message -----
From: David Albert <shantinik@earthlink.>
> My favorite is Nancy Wallace's "Child's Work".
>
> David Albert

Shelley Mansberger

I also like Grace Llewellyn's book "Real Lives". It's a compilation of life
stories by 11 teenagers who either left school to unschool, or never went to
school at all, and how it has effected their lives. Each story is written
by the actual teenager. My own teenage son read it and so identified with
"Patrick's Story", that he quit high school the following week and hasn't
looked back since. He's happier than he's ever been, and passion has
returned to his life. That's been two years ago.

Shelley


----- Original Message -----
From: silvertree <silvertree@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:34 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] books


> From: "silvertree" <silvertree@...>
>
> I really liked Child's Work as well. My favorite unschooling book is The
> Teenage Liberation Handbook by Grace Llewellyn. It applies for all ages
and
> was a pretty powerful book to read as an adult and come to terms what I
> missed out on as a result of my school experience.
> Linda
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Albert <shantinik@earthlink.>
> > My favorite is Nancy Wallace's "Child's Work".
> >
> > David Albert
>
>
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Robin Norell

So the question is... what are we reading?
 
Well, I just got the 6th book in the "Left Behind" series by Tim LaHaye, so I'll be starting that right away. I've been reading David Albert's "And the Skylark Sings with Me." 
 
My daughter (age 10 and a huge Harry Potter fan) and I just finished "Castle in the Attic," and have started "Wizard's Hall" (the storyline of this one sounds very similar to Harry Potter, but it was actually written first).  She also just finished (after having only just received) book #21 of the Magic Treehouse series, "Civil War on Sunday."  She also just read the first of the Magic School Bus chapter books, "The Truth About Bats."
 
On my summer reading list is Scott Turow's "Personal Injuries," Mary Hood "Joyful Homeschooler," and "Strong Willed Child or Dreamer" by Dr. Dana Scott Spears.  And of course, Harry Potter #4 when it comes out!
 
Robin
Orlando, FL
 :-)
 

Debra Bures

we're reading the Black Stallion series. My almost 12 yo dd likes them a lot--also my 8 yo dd.
 Debra

Campbell & Wyman

At 07:51 AM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote:
> we're reading the Black Stallion series. My almost 12 yo dd likes them
>a lot--also my 8 yo dd. Debra

Who is the author and who is the publisher of these books please.
Could you tell me a bit more about them? My daughters are really into
horses these days but are strong readers (9 and 11) and like well-written
books.
Ta,
Brooke in B.C.
brynlee@...

The White's

My son listened to The Castle in the Attic and The Battle for the Castle by
Elizabeth Winthrop on audiotape, says they are the best books ever!

I also would recommend Ella Enchanted by Gail Carson Levine, very funny.
Levine also has a new book out, can't remember the name but saw it at the
library yesterday.

Has she read The Hobbit? Or Summer of My German Soldier?

Cindy

Michelle Harper

Curriculum of Love...Morgan Simone Daleo 
I enjoyed this book, and found it my library, and would be good for other libraries, and others to read.    Michelle

Karin

>>Two of my favourites are John Holt's Learning All the Time and Nancy
Wallace's Child's Work. John's book really goes into the idea of just
getting out of the way and letting them learn. Nancy's book looks back at
the things her children did obsessively when they were little and shows how
those obsessions were really preparing them for what would eventually be
their life's work. >>


I have Nancy Wallace's Child's Work. I read it years ago when the kids were younger. The other thing I got from the book was how it is important to let your child play - that is their "work". That is how they are learning and processing things in their world. And to be courteous of them when they are playing. Let them finish what they are doing before dragging them away from it. This book was one of the reasons why I always let my kids play, especially when they were involved in play, I was hesitant to pull them away (and do schoolwork!). I always tried to let them come to their own stopping point. Sometimes, though, I found myself comparing my kids to her somewhat genious kids! Her kids seemed "ahead" of mine. LOL. But that was back when I was stil HS'ing. I wouldn't do that now.

Karin

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Alan & Brenda Leonard

> I can't believe I didn't think of BEN AND ME and MR REVERE AND I, since I
> carry them in the store. There is another one about Columbus' dog, too.

Ricka,
details, please! Author or something? I couldn't find it in a quickie
search; Columbus and Dog brought up a few million hits....! sounds good.

brenda

Fetteroll

on 5/17/02 10:37 PM, Alan & Brenda Leonard at abtleo@... wrote:

>> I can't believe I didn't think of BEN AND ME and MR REVERE AND I, since I
>> carry them in the store. There is another one about Columbus' dog, too.
>
> Ricka,
> details, please! Author or something? I couldn't find it in a quickie
> search; Columbus and Dog brought up a few million hits....! sounds good.
>
> brenda

Robert Lawson

* Ben and me : a new and astonishing life of Benjamin Franklin as written
by his good mouse Amos

* Mr. Revere and I : being an account of certain episodes in the career of
Paul Revere, Esq., as recently revealed by his horse, Scheherazade, late
pride of his royal majesty's 14th regiment of foot / Set down and
embellished with numerous drawings by Robert Lawson

* I discover Columbus; a true chronicle of the great admiral & his finding
of the new world, narrated by the venerable parrot Aurelio, who shared in
the glorious venture. Set down & illustrated by Robert Lawson.

* Captain Kidd's cat ; being the true and dolorous chronicle of Wm Kidd,
gent. & merchant of New York, late captain of the Adventure Galley; of the
vicissitudes attending his unfortunate cruise in eastern waters, of his
incarceration in Newgate Prison, of his unjust trial and execution, as
narrated by his faithful cat, McDermot, who ought to know / Set down and
illuminated by Robert Lawson

And some others of which I've only heard of Rabbit Hill (which might be a
Newbery book):

* Rabbit Hill

* Edward, Hoppy, and Joe

* Fabulous Flight

* The Great Wheel

* McWhinney's jaunt

* Mr. Twigg's mistake

* Mr. Wilmer

* Robbut: A tale of tails

* Smeller Martin

* They were strong and good

* The tough winter

* Country colic, being sundry remarks and observations concerning the joys,
perils & vexations of rustic residence, together with certain suggestions of
a cautionary nature for the enlightenment & guidance of the inexperienced,
set down by Robert Lawson...arranged as a glossary & lavishly embellished
with numerous diagrams drawn from life by the author

(He also illustrated Mr. Popper's Penguins and The Story of Ferdinand)

Joyce

vivrh

Hi all
I am wondering what books you all can reccommend that I could use to refer
people to, who are thinking of homeschooling and unschooling? Thanks in
advance.
God bless
Vivian
Mom to three Happy little Monkeys
Austin 10/31/93 Sarah 8/28/95 Emmalee 8/15/00
And loving wife to Randy

**If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
-Anatole France***

Alan & Brenda Leonard

11/19/02 20:09:

> Sometimes I have a book-buying binge, and the bill comes and it's a couple of
> hundred dollars and Keith starts to moan and I say "Hey! I don't wear
> expensive clothes, fancy underwear, I don't wear make-up, I don't have my
> hair done, I don't smoke, I don't drink; leave me my small vice!!

I've used this line, too! I figure, compared to what my husband spends on
alcohol alone, I oughta be able to buy quite a few books each month. (Since
that last sentence sounds AWFUL, I should explain that Alan doesn't drink
much alcohol, but he has terribly expensive tastes in the stuff!)

Somewhere I saw a t-shirt that I should have bought. It was a quote from
some famous person that said "When I get a little money, I buy books. If
there is any left, I buy food."

oh, yeah!

brenda

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/17/03 8:39:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sylvanv@... writes:

> I'm responding to the quote at the bottom of your e mail, "a house without
> books is like a room without windows." I counted 17 bookcases in my house;
> mostly childrens books which started their way into our home 21 years ago
> after our first child's birth. I imagine this list has a lot of book
> lovers.
>
>

We have 8 bookcases but I think the sad thing is that some people don't even
have one. My husbands secretary has none. Their son has a few books, I gave
them all to him for birthdays etc., They never read to him. He is in public
school and they feel he gets everything he needs in school and time at home
is like time off for good behavior. They think of reading as work. Never
read to him as a baby either.
Pam G.


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/17/2003 10:09:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
genant2@... writes:


>
>
> We have 8 bookcases but I think the sad thing is that some people don't
> even
> have one. My husbands secretary has none.

A friend told me a story about a day she was selling books at a preschool. A
little boy was attracted to the book display and was asking his mom to get
him a book. His mom pulled him along, saying "Come on, you already have a
book at home!" A book, singular. I'm such a total bookworm that I can't
relate, I guess.
Amy Kagey
A house without books is like
a room without windows. (Horace Mann)
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[email protected]

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:08:38 EST genant2@... writes:
.....I think the sad thing is that some people don't even have one. My
husbands secretary has none. Their son has a few books, I gave them
all to him for birthdays etc., They never read to him. He is in public
school and they feel he gets everything he needs in school and time at
home is like time off for good behavior. They think of reading as work.
Never read to him as a baby either.
> Pam G.

I can relate. I love books, and there isn't a room in my house that isn't
piled high with them. People are always giving me more, because they know
our family enjoys them. One time my sister, who at the time had a 3yo,
6yo, and 12yo, brought me over crates of childrens books that she cleaned
out of her house. I asked her if she wanted to wait till the children
outgrew them, and she just said no, that is what school is for. I almost
always buy her children books for gifts, and they will ask her if she
will read them that night. She always gives them a "We'll see".
Not me! I'm always trying to read books to my children, and they love it.
Last summer we went to a flea market and the girls ran right past the
tables of beanie babies and time-out dolls, straight for the new book
tables. I told them that they could each pick out two books. They were
having trouble deciding because there were so many nice ones. The elderly
man selling the books said that any children that excited about books
deserves to have them, and proceeded to give them a stack of about six
brand new books for free! The girls were so happy that they gave the man
(a total stranger) a big hug. It made my day too.
Wende

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In a message dated 1/17/03 8:09:39 AM, genant2@... writes:

<< He is in public
school and they feel he gets everything he needs in school and time at home
is like time off for good behavior. They think of reading as work. Never
read to him as a baby either. >>

We had neighbors whose daughter was very artistic, but she wasn't allowed to
have paints in the house. Their house was kept absolutely clean and arranged
as though the photographers were coming, and paints would have been a risk to
the carpet or the surfaces. Also, where would she keep them afterward?

They figured she would get to paint in school.
And music was for school too. Be quiet at home, because someone is watching
the TV.

So at our house, she painted. She sang really loud along with some video or
recording, and she painted and drew and sculpted. But she couldn't take the
finished stuff home. It would have just gone into the trash.

No bookshelves there either. I guess they figure school libraries are the
right place for kids' books, and the kids will get to read them at school.

Only by the time all those messages are digested and school does its part to
make the kids feel book-sick, and by the time art and music are actually
available as electives, the kids aren't so interested.

Holly called this girl in December to wish her happy birthday. They were
best friends when they were two to five. The other girl is doing
cross-stitch embroidery now. That's quiet and not messy, I thought.

Sandra

Alan & Brenda Leonard

1/17/03 17:51:

> We have 8 bookcases but I think the sad thing is that some people don't even
> have one.

My son's number 1 complaint about babysitters I find for him here in
military housing is that nobody has any books to read! I'm always amazed
that people don't have books. What do they do with their time?

I didn't count the bookcases at my house, it's too scary an idea. But when
we moved to Germany, the inventory listed 32 boxes of books.....and I've
been shopping a few times since then.

brenda

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/17/03 2:02:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
abtleo@... writes:

> But when
> we moved to Germany, the inventory listed 32 boxes of books....

I know what you mean and those boxes are HEAVY.
Pam G


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/17/2003 2:49:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
genant2@... writes:
> > But when
> > we moved to Germany, the inventory listed 32 boxes of books....
>
> I know what you mean and those boxes are HEAVY.
> Pam G

Your tax dollars HARD at work! <G>

And THAT's why I don't understand the lack of books in the military! It's not
as if the soldiers had to PAY to get heavy boxes of books shipped all over
creation! Your tax dollars pay to have them shipped. So really it's a lack of
interest, NOT the moving fees!

~Kelly


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Alan & Brenda Leonard

1/17/03 23:37:

>> But when
>> we moved to Germany, the inventory listed 32 boxes of books....
>
> I know what you mean and those boxes are HEAVY.
> Pam G

Ah, but I didn't lift them --- you can't do a DITY (do it yourself) move
overseas --- so I don't care if they're heavy! And we own so little
furniture (mostly bookshelves <g>) that we were at about half our weight
allowance. So I can go book shopping! Hooray!

Hmmmm. Now where should I go? Nearest English language bookstore is 2 1/2
hours.....

brenda

Jim Selvage

Yea Brenda, way to go with the books! When we moved to Haiti five years
ago, I kept wondering if anyone was going to complain about the amount of
books we had sent over. My excuse was that we weren't going to be able to
buy any over there and we would need books for homeschooling. Of course, I
still found books to buy, but it was a lot more difficult, lol. When we
left, we left most of them in Haiti at the English school, but don't worry
we quickly returned to having a house full of books!

I have brothers who don't have any books in their houses, and probably can
say they haven't read a book since they graduated from high school. That
just amazes me!

many blessings,
erin

>> My son's number 1 complaint about babysitters I find for him here in
> military housing is that nobody has any books to read! I'm always amazed
> that people don't have books. What do they do with their time?
>
> I didn't count the bookcases at my house, it's too scary an idea. But
when
> we moved to Germany, the inventory listed 32 boxes of books.....and I've
> been shopping a few times since then.
>
> brenda
>
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In a message dated 1/17/03 7:04:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
abtleo@... writes:

> Ah, but I didn't lift them

I remember the moving very well and I remember hauling those boxes of books
up stairs and down hallways. You may not have to move them OCONUS but you
still have to move them. ;)
Pam G.


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sonyacurti

My son Joey LOVES the magic tree house series but there is another
one similar calle "The Time Warp Trio"

Just yeterday my son bought a game based on video game and I bought
the new book "Eragon" written by the home school boy that graduated
when he was 15. That is what it says inside the flap. I like the
looks of it so far and I look forward to reading it to all my three
boys ages 15,11 and 7. I'll keep you posted - there was alos a
comment on the book that if you enjoyed the "Lord of the Rings" you
will like this ???

Sonya

sonyacurti

Hi,
I just read my post and saw that it didn't make any sense
LOL...........
First my son purchased this vidoe game called "Tomb Raider" and then
when we were in the bookstore he saw the book. !! He noticed that it
was the same by the picture-how cool is that ! It has 34 chapters
(short) and after I read what was on the cover "The first official
novel based on the thrilling video game" I just had to get it. When
I looked inside I found that it was a first of a series. Joey is
only 7 and cannot read but understands everything and that is what I
love about unschooling. Just because he cannot read doesn't mean he
shouldn't get exsposed to books he would really love so I am his
reading eyes.

Sonya
Attleboro, Mass.

Kelli Traaseth

We are also reading Eragon. My son says its pretty good so far, I'm just a
chapter in or so.


I'm been thinking about this discussion quite a bit.

I think it was Wendy who asked about it.

**What are some good books for an 8 year old (That reads pretty good) to
read? **

Things that he wants to read. :)


** Can he just read Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Yo books and Game Manuals and be
OK????? **

Sure. He'll have that good feeling about reading and you never know where
it will go.


** I would like, in a perfect world, for him to be reading the Classics!
haha! **

I know you're joking around but I think this is a huge step in deschooling.
Being Ok with the fact that maybe our kids won't want to read those. I know
so many people who have never picked up a "classic" and they are leading
totally great lives. I also know some people who have read those books and
are really unhappy. <g>

I remember when Alec finished HP4 and I was searching and searching for
something for him to read. This was preunschooling days. :) (Notice I was
searching, not him, that's the key, he hadn't even asked for something to
read! I just thought he needed to be reading something.) I suggested the
Unfortunate Events, Narnia, Redwall, all sorts of adventure books, nope.
He didn't want to read those. Maybe he just didn't want to read anything
right then. He did read HP5 when it came out, in about 2 days! What he has
found that he likes right now is the DragonballZ graphic novels and the
Showen Jumps. And now Eragon.

Then there's my dd, Abbi(9), who doesn't want to sit and listen to me read
anymore, :( and doesn't want to read through such a long book as HP books,
(she says they look too long) but then the other day asked to sit with me
and read Macbeth. She also reads the graphic novels, like Rurouni
Kenshin, which I like because of the history that I'm learning. Her
interest in Anime has led to Tae-Kwon-Do, Japanese and Chinese writing,
history of Japan and China and lots of other stuff.

We just never know.............


Let them do what they want and they may end up in the Classics. And they
may not. But that's OK too.

Kelli~