Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] voluntary math and real-life stats
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In a message dated 4/3/03 7:24:59 AM, scott-wecht@... writes:
<< Being a sort of newbie I just had to share this tidbit for other
newbies out there.
DS 14 and 10 decided to make level 60 characters in D & D just for fun.
(This gives them practically god-like ablilies. Quite cool!) >>
Very cool story. I'll send it to my boys.
Last Saturday they had a very interesting experience at their Saturday night
D&D game. Their DM/leader had decided to switch games to some new
post-apocalyptic game.
I was still up when they got in 1:30 a.m. or so, and I'm glad because I got
the immediate debrief.
I was impressed (side story) that neither of them ever got impatient with the
other for interrupting as this story came tumbling out. Several times one
would take over or clarify or back up and the other would let him go until
the need to clarify or back up.
So out poured this:
Each person was to be playing himself.
"So did you roll stats?"
And both the boys' eyes just sparkled and they said "NO! We used our real
stats!"
I settled in for a story.
The method was for everyone to state what the individual had as to dexterity,
intelligence, charisma, etc. and they negotiated an agreeable stat for each.
15 was the limit, and nobody was to be below average, which they set at 8.
So 8 was the lowest and 15 was the highest.
I asked if anyone got a 15 charisma. Kirby smirked and pointed to himself
with two thumbs.
What about strength? I looked at Marty. They had given him a thirteen,
which he thought was fine. I had guessed him as the strongest of those I
knew.
But their main good story was intelligence. When it came time to decide
intelligence on everybody, their host (a school-boy I know well) said "I
don't want to say anything about homeschooling, but..." and when they told
me I laughed and said "But he just did!" and they nodded and said, "Yeah, we
know."
So in his summary of what intelligence was, it was clarified that
intelligence was knowing things like chemistry and science. I rared back my
head and said "That's knowledge. Intelligence is how easily you can learn
things." Both Kirby and Marty nodded quickly and gave the eye look and head
not that means, "OH yeah, we know that, but Eric and the rest of them don't."
Eric did say as consolation to Kirby and Marty while telling them they were
intelligence-impaired, that they did both have the most common sense of the
people in that group.
So Kirby was granted a 13 intelligence, and Marty a 12, I believe. Not bad
under the prejudicial circumstances. <g>
Marty had gotten a 13 charisma too. Not Kirby's 15, because Marty is loud
and obnoxious sometimes. Cruder humor.
Closest they've ever had to report cards. And the summations came from kids
who had spent many hours with them in close social, linguistic and logical
circumstances.
There were about twelve of the sometimes fifteen there. Two other longtime
homeschoolers weren't there. One who was there homeschooled from about
12-15, and now is taking some low-level college stuff.
Of the two who weren't there, one is full-time in college, a sophomore. So
they probaby would have given her a 15 on intelligence. Not that she doesn't
deserve it, but they would have looked at college GPA and gone straight with
that. The other works full time and can think circles around my kids, but
he's a cowboy kid with less social status than some of them (in their eyes)
and so that will probably prejudice their decision when he shows up for the
post-apocalyptic doings.
I was fascinated and amused.
Sandra
<< Being a sort of newbie I just had to share this tidbit for other
newbies out there.
DS 14 and 10 decided to make level 60 characters in D & D just for fun.
(This gives them practically god-like ablilies. Quite cool!) >>
Very cool story. I'll send it to my boys.
Last Saturday they had a very interesting experience at their Saturday night
D&D game. Their DM/leader had decided to switch games to some new
post-apocalyptic game.
I was still up when they got in 1:30 a.m. or so, and I'm glad because I got
the immediate debrief.
I was impressed (side story) that neither of them ever got impatient with the
other for interrupting as this story came tumbling out. Several times one
would take over or clarify or back up and the other would let him go until
the need to clarify or back up.
So out poured this:
Each person was to be playing himself.
"So did you roll stats?"
And both the boys' eyes just sparkled and they said "NO! We used our real
stats!"
I settled in for a story.
The method was for everyone to state what the individual had as to dexterity,
intelligence, charisma, etc. and they negotiated an agreeable stat for each.
15 was the limit, and nobody was to be below average, which they set at 8.
So 8 was the lowest and 15 was the highest.
I asked if anyone got a 15 charisma. Kirby smirked and pointed to himself
with two thumbs.
What about strength? I looked at Marty. They had given him a thirteen,
which he thought was fine. I had guessed him as the strongest of those I
knew.
But their main good story was intelligence. When it came time to decide
intelligence on everybody, their host (a school-boy I know well) said "I
don't want to say anything about homeschooling, but..." and when they told
me I laughed and said "But he just did!" and they nodded and said, "Yeah, we
know."
So in his summary of what intelligence was, it was clarified that
intelligence was knowing things like chemistry and science. I rared back my
head and said "That's knowledge. Intelligence is how easily you can learn
things." Both Kirby and Marty nodded quickly and gave the eye look and head
not that means, "OH yeah, we know that, but Eric and the rest of them don't."
Eric did say as consolation to Kirby and Marty while telling them they were
intelligence-impaired, that they did both have the most common sense of the
people in that group.
So Kirby was granted a 13 intelligence, and Marty a 12, I believe. Not bad
under the prejudicial circumstances. <g>
Marty had gotten a 13 charisma too. Not Kirby's 15, because Marty is loud
and obnoxious sometimes. Cruder humor.
Closest they've ever had to report cards. And the summations came from kids
who had spent many hours with them in close social, linguistic and logical
circumstances.
There were about twelve of the sometimes fifteen there. Two other longtime
homeschoolers weren't there. One who was there homeschooled from about
12-15, and now is taking some low-level college stuff.
Of the two who weren't there, one is full-time in college, a sophomore. So
they probaby would have given her a 15 on intelligence. Not that she doesn't
deserve it, but they would have looked at college GPA and gone straight with
that. The other works full time and can think circles around my kids, but
he's a cowboy kid with less social status than some of them (in their eyes)
and so that will probably prejudice their decision when he shows up for the
post-apocalyptic doings.
I was fascinated and amused.
Sandra