Help needed
ibhayi.afrika
Coming out of lurkdom here.
We live in the UK ( waves to Shyrley ) and at the moment are being bombarded
by govt. propaganda about the importance of sending your child to school and
the problems with truancy. There is a lot of misinformation flying about,
regular truancy sweeps etc.
The upshot of all of this is that my son is doubting his own level of
"education" and panics about "being left behind" and whether he has "done
enough work" each day < Quotes are his> He is struggling with our
unschooling in the light of all the government-speak which implies
neglect.......
I am looking for some articles to help allay his fears and would be grateful
for some links or something please. I have looked at unschooling.com and
Sandra's site but have very limited internet access, so struggled to find
much in the time I had available.
Thanks
Martina
We live in the UK ( waves to Shyrley ) and at the moment are being bombarded
by govt. propaganda about the importance of sending your child to school and
the problems with truancy. There is a lot of misinformation flying about,
regular truancy sweeps etc.
The upshot of all of this is that my son is doubting his own level of
"education" and panics about "being left behind" and whether he has "done
enough work" each day < Quotes are his> He is struggling with our
unschooling in the light of all the government-speak which implies
neglect.......
I am looking for some articles to help allay his fears and would be grateful
for some links or something please. I have looked at unschooling.com and
Sandra's site but have very limited internet access, so struggled to find
much in the time I had available.
Thanks
Martina
Marjorie Kirk
Martina,
I don't live in the U.K., but had a similar problem. My son recently rode a
ski lift with some high schooled boys who were off school for a snow day.
(We go skiing every Tuesday, because every day is a snow day!) Afterwards
he started asking me if he was going to go to high school (they told him he
Should). Then he said he thought we should do more "school" because he's
worried about being uneducated! The most helpful thing I could think of to
do was to try to explain certain aspects of unschooling to him. We
discussed how memorizing facts for a test wasn't really education, and how
he's learning all the time-when we watch t.v. shows, read or listen to
books, have discussions about all kinds of topics and through play. I
explained to him that some people think learing isn't really learning unless
there is a schedule involved, a teacher and a student, testing, grading,
etc. Fortunately he knew better! We then discussed the fact that these boys
didn't seem to "approve" of homeschooling! Could it be that they didn't
approve because they know nothing about homeschooling? It's hard to form an
accurate opinion without all the facts. Could it be that they were jealous?
They can't take off school and go skiing whenever they want. And lastly we
discussed the question-Does it matter to us what they think? (We think
not!)
Good Luck,
Marjorie
I don't live in the U.K., but had a similar problem. My son recently rode a
ski lift with some high schooled boys who were off school for a snow day.
(We go skiing every Tuesday, because every day is a snow day!) Afterwards
he started asking me if he was going to go to high school (they told him he
Should). Then he said he thought we should do more "school" because he's
worried about being uneducated! The most helpful thing I could think of to
do was to try to explain certain aspects of unschooling to him. We
discussed how memorizing facts for a test wasn't really education, and how
he's learning all the time-when we watch t.v. shows, read or listen to
books, have discussions about all kinds of topics and through play. I
explained to him that some people think learing isn't really learning unless
there is a schedule involved, a teacher and a student, testing, grading,
etc. Fortunately he knew better! We then discussed the fact that these boys
didn't seem to "approve" of homeschooling! Could it be that they didn't
approve because they know nothing about homeschooling? It's hard to form an
accurate opinion without all the facts. Could it be that they were jealous?
They can't take off school and go skiing whenever they want. And lastly we
discussed the question-Does it matter to us what they think? (We think
not!)
Good Luck,
Marjorie
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From: "ibhayi.afrika" <ibhayi.afrika@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:59 AM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Help needed
> Coming out of lurkdom here.
>
> We live in the UK ( waves to Shyrley ) and at the moment are being
bombarded
> by govt. propaganda about the importance of sending your child to school
and
> the problems with truancy. There is a lot of misinformation flying about,
> regular truancy sweeps etc.
>
> The upshot of all of this is that my son is doubting his own level of
> "education" and panics about "being left behind" and whether he has "done
> enough work" each day < Quotes are his> He is struggling with our
> unschooling in the light of all the government-speak which implies
> neglect.......
>
> I am looking for some articles to help allay his fears and would be
grateful
> for some links or something please. I have looked at unschooling.com and
> Sandra's site but have very limited internet access, so struggled to find
> much in the time I had available.
>
> Thanks
> Martina
>
>
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Rachel Ann
Why don't you just do school with him. If he wants to keep it up, it is
what he wants. So you don't unschool him...is this a philosophy you are
commmited to regardless of how your child your child feels? (Rhetorical, I
know you aren't). Hunt down a few workbooks or textbooks, they can serve as
reference later if (and I say most likely when) he decides he prefers
unschooling.
Voila...problem solved.
Workbooks can be purchased fairly cheap, and some kids do enjoy them...try
ebay, half.com, amazon z shops etc.
be well,
Rachel Ann
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what he wants. So you don't unschool him...is this a philosophy you are
commmited to regardless of how your child your child feels? (Rhetorical, I
know you aren't). Hunt down a few workbooks or textbooks, they can serve as
reference later if (and I say most likely when) he decides he prefers
unschooling.
Voila...problem solved.
Workbooks can be purchased fairly cheap, and some kids do enjoy them...try
ebay, half.com, amazon z shops etc.
be well,
Rachel Ann
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In a message dated 3/12/03 2:03:19 AM, ibhayi.afrika@... writes:
<< The upshot of all of this is that my son is doubting his own level of
"education" and panics about "being left behind" and whether he has "done
enough work" each day < Quotes are his> He is struggling with our
unschooling in the light of all the government-speak which implies
neglect....... >>
I would just reassure him that the advertisements are directed at families
where the children are sneaking away from school and their parents are too
busy to know, and at families where there's nobody home when the kids come
home, so they could be dishonest and stay home instead of going to school.
Tell him school is NOT very fun, and so lots of kids try to sneak away
(whatever your local term is for what at our school was called "ditching").
They're not talking about homeschooled kids.
Maybe show him some of the online stuff about homeschoolers in the UK so
he'll know there are LOTS of really busy homeschoolers and those aren't the
kids the government is trying to lure back to school.
Sandra
<< The upshot of all of this is that my son is doubting his own level of
"education" and panics about "being left behind" and whether he has "done
enough work" each day < Quotes are his> He is struggling with our
unschooling in the light of all the government-speak which implies
neglect....... >>
I would just reassure him that the advertisements are directed at families
where the children are sneaking away from school and their parents are too
busy to know, and at families where there's nobody home when the kids come
home, so they could be dishonest and stay home instead of going to school.
Tell him school is NOT very fun, and so lots of kids try to sneak away
(whatever your local term is for what at our school was called "ditching").
They're not talking about homeschooled kids.
Maybe show him some of the online stuff about homeschoolers in the UK so
he'll know there are LOTS of really busy homeschoolers and those aren't the
kids the government is trying to lure back to school.
Sandra
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"ibhayi.afrika" wrote:
Heidi R
"ibhayi.afrika" wrote:
> Coming out of lurkdom here.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> We live in the UK ( waves to Shyrley ) and at the moment are being bombarded
> by govt. propaganda about the importance of sending your child to school and
> the problems with truancy. There is a lot of misinformation flying about,
> regular truancy sweeps etc.
>
> The upshot of all of this is that my son is doubting his own level of
> "education" and panics about "being left behind" and whether he has "done
> enough work" each day < Quotes are his> He is struggling with our
> unschooling in the light of all the government-speak which implies
> neglect.......
>
> I am looking for some articles to help allay his fears and would be grateful
> for some links or something please. I have looked at unschooling.com and
> Sandra's site but have very limited internet access, so struggled to find
> much in the time I had available.
>
> Thanks
> Martina
>
>
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Mom of All Seasons
Hi everyone.
I'm Jamie, mom to nearly 10 year old DS. We're new to this RU lifestyle (2
1/2 years of school at home after PS-2nd gr in a private school) and I'm in
need of some advice.
My DS has clothes strewn about his room to the point that he's often runs
out of clothes. Some clothes are clean, some are dirty. I have always done
the laundry and don't in the least mind doing it (and no one is begging for
the job). I wash, dry, fold and put them in a pile on the dryer. We all take
our clothes and put them away (theoretically) as the need/desire suits us.
The problem is the inevitable "I don't have any ***." So far, I've been
saying, "I did all the laundry that was in the laundry room yesterday."
I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. He often has some interesting outfits (shorts on very cold
days), and ends up stealing my socks, but in general doesn't seem bothered
by the situation.
Advice?
Thanks,
Jamie
I'm Jamie, mom to nearly 10 year old DS. We're new to this RU lifestyle (2
1/2 years of school at home after PS-2nd gr in a private school) and I'm in
need of some advice.
My DS has clothes strewn about his room to the point that he's often runs
out of clothes. Some clothes are clean, some are dirty. I have always done
the laundry and don't in the least mind doing it (and no one is begging for
the job). I wash, dry, fold and put them in a pile on the dryer. We all take
our clothes and put them away (theoretically) as the need/desire suits us.
The problem is the inevitable "I don't have any ***." So far, I've been
saying, "I did all the laundry that was in the laundry room yesterday."
I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. He often has some interesting outfits (shorts on very cold
days), and ends up stealing my socks, but in general doesn't seem bothered
by the situation.
Advice?
Thanks,
Jamie
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/20/2005 4:07:26 PM Central Standard Time,
momofallseasons@... writes:
I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. He often has some interesting outfits (shorts on very cold
days), and ends up stealing my socks, but in general doesn't seem bothered
by the situation.
~~~
I just ask Will (11) to bring me his laundry. I also provided a really
large trash-can laundry vessel for his room (it had a Razorback on it, and that's
the motif of his room). We cut a hole in the top so he can slam dunk the
laundry. The laundry stays in there for the most part.
When his room gets really messy with laundry and legos and what-not on the
floor, I'll ask him to go in and pick up *just* the laundry and it makes a
difference in the way the room looks and feels. He has a really tiny room, just
9' x 9', so picking it up once in a while is imperative, and it takes just a
few minutes, too. He recognizes that just picking up the laundry and
dumping the trash-can laundry vessel down the stairs will help me and help him get
his room back to a manageable existence.
I think it's a problem to expect kids under, say, 14 to remember to put
their laundry in the laundry room without being reminded. (We don't have a
laundry room.) Eliminate the problem by making sure he has a cool and convenient
place to put his dirty clothes, and then just ask him to bring it down when
you need it.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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momofallseasons@... writes:
I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. He often has some interesting outfits (shorts on very cold
days), and ends up stealing my socks, but in general doesn't seem bothered
by the situation.
~~~
I just ask Will (11) to bring me his laundry. I also provided a really
large trash-can laundry vessel for his room (it had a Razorback on it, and that's
the motif of his room). We cut a hole in the top so he can slam dunk the
laundry. The laundry stays in there for the most part.
When his room gets really messy with laundry and legos and what-not on the
floor, I'll ask him to go in and pick up *just* the laundry and it makes a
difference in the way the room looks and feels. He has a really tiny room, just
9' x 9', so picking it up once in a while is imperative, and it takes just a
few minutes, too. He recognizes that just picking up the laundry and
dumping the trash-can laundry vessel down the stairs will help me and help him get
his room back to a manageable existence.
I think it's a problem to expect kids under, say, 14 to remember to put
their laundry in the laundry room without being reminded. (We don't have a
laundry room.) Eliminate the problem by making sure he has a cool and convenient
place to put his dirty clothes, and then just ask him to bring it down when
you need it.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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Dana Matt
Putting a hamper in the bedroom that can be used for
basketball practice has taken care of the problem for
us ;)
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> as I do the laundry or
> just leave it be.
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In a message dated 5/20/05 3:07:27 PM, momofallseasons@... writes:
<< My DS has clothes strewn about his room to the point that he's often runs
out of clothes. Some clothes are clean, some are dirty. >>
Does he have a laundry basket and could you go in every couple of days and
either do or help him do a pick-up?
-=- I wash, dry, fold and put them in a pile on the dryer. We all take
our clothes and put them away (theoretically) -=-
Maybe he needs a drawer delivery, or at least delivered to his room and you
hang out and talk to him while he puts them away or something.
-=-So far, I've been
saying, "I did all the laundry that was in the laundry room yesterday."-=-
If you knew your husband needed something for the next day and you did
laundry and it wasn't there, would you just do the laundry without it? If you had a
friend visiting and you knew she needed some particular thing washed, or that
she was out of the clean clothes she had brought, would you go and solicit
clothes to wash? Without that extra step, it seems to me entrapment. (Or
rather if I were to do that knowing that something important wasn't there, I would
be doing it with a spiteful or hostile air, and I just don't do it.)
-=-I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. -=-
Those aren't the only two choices.
You could say "I need black clothes for this load," or "Bring your socks and
underwear so I can wash them." If you say it in the same happy voice you'd
use if you were saying "Come and help me eat this ice cream," won't he bring
you some clothes? (Not if he's in the middle of a non-pausable game, or has a
friend over and they're in mid-hilarity.)
-= He often has some interesting outfits (shorts on very cold
days)-=-
How old his he?
What is the purpose of clothes?
What are your priorities?
It seems to me if it's cold and he doesn't have clean, warm clothes, that's a
problem.
Sandra
<< My DS has clothes strewn about his room to the point that he's often runs
out of clothes. Some clothes are clean, some are dirty. >>
Does he have a laundry basket and could you go in every couple of days and
either do or help him do a pick-up?
-=- I wash, dry, fold and put them in a pile on the dryer. We all take
our clothes and put them away (theoretically) -=-
Maybe he needs a drawer delivery, or at least delivered to his room and you
hang out and talk to him while he puts them away or something.
-=-So far, I've been
saying, "I did all the laundry that was in the laundry room yesterday."-=-
If you knew your husband needed something for the next day and you did
laundry and it wasn't there, would you just do the laundry without it? If you had a
friend visiting and you knew she needed some particular thing washed, or that
she was out of the clean clothes she had brought, would you go and solicit
clothes to wash? Without that extra step, it seems to me entrapment. (Or
rather if I were to do that knowing that something important wasn't there, I would
be doing it with a spiteful or hostile air, and I just don't do it.)
-=-I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. -=-
Those aren't the only two choices.
You could say "I need black clothes for this load," or "Bring your socks and
underwear so I can wash them." If you say it in the same happy voice you'd
use if you were saying "Come and help me eat this ice cream," won't he bring
you some clothes? (Not if he's in the middle of a non-pausable game, or has a
friend over and they're in mid-hilarity.)
-= He often has some interesting outfits (shorts on very cold
days)-=-
How old his he?
What is the purpose of clothes?
What are your priorities?
It seems to me if it's cold and he doesn't have clean, warm clothes, that's a
problem.
Sandra
Robyn Coburn
<<<<My DS has clothes strewn about his room to the point that he's often
runsout of clothes. Some clothes are clean, some are dirty.....
I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. >>>>>
Seems like the real problem is on the other end. What if you put his folded
clean clothes into his chest of drawers or closet so that the mixing up
didn't occur? Then hopefully putting the dirty stuff from the floor into the
hamper will be less onerous for whoever does it.
Robyn L. Coburn
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runsout of clothes. Some clothes are clean, some are dirty.....
I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the laundry or
just leave it be. >>>>>
Seems like the real problem is on the other end. What if you put his folded
clean clothes into his chest of drawers or closet so that the mixing up
didn't occur? Then hopefully putting the dirty stuff from the floor into the
hamper will be less onerous for whoever does it.
Robyn L. Coburn
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Sylvia Toyama
What worked for us was to put a hamper in each boy's bedroom. Actually, they're tall kitchen-size trashcans without lids. It took a few weeks to get used to for the boys, and Dan (4) still doesn't always get his clothes in the hamper. Then again, he doesn't always change clothes every day so he seldom runs out! <g>
I would talk to your son about it. Tell him you've noticed that he sometimes runs out of clean clothes and you'd like to help him find a solution. Would it help him to have a hamper, or some other routine that gets his clothes in a place or container where you can find them for washing? It may be that it just never occurred to him.
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I would talk to your son about it. Tell him you've noticed that he sometimes runs out of clean clothes and you'd like to help him find a solution. Would it help him to have a hamper, or some other routine that gets his clothes in a place or container where you can find them for washing? It may be that it just never occurred to him.
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nellebelle
>>>>>>>What if you put his foldedclean clothes into his chest of drawers or closet so that the mixing up
didn't occur?>>>>>>>>>>>
Can anybody share new ideas for storing children's clothing? Jackie doesn't like to use the closet and doesn't enjoy digging in the drawers. We're thinking of trying cubes. Any other ideas?
Mary Ellen
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arcarpenter2003
--- In [email protected], "Mom of All Seasons"
<momofallseasons@c...> wrote:
==> I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the
laundry or
What would your son like you to do? Have you asked him?
If it were me, I'd pick up the clothes (unless my child didn't want me
to, for some reason). If your son is in the room at the time, it's a
nice time to chat for a few minutes.
In my house, I also put away the clothes (well, and sometimes we dress
ourselves out of a laundry basket <G>). I know I love the feeling of
opening a drawer and seeing a pile of clean folded shirts -- all my
choices in one place.
For my son (who doesn't get dressed even close to every day), I know
that it's a satisfying feeling for him, too, to have all his favorite
clothes clean and available in one place so that he can choose what
will make him feel really spiffy for that day.
I don't know if you're asking this because you're wondering if your
son should be expected to do some of the work or not. I do think that
if we want our kids to learn how it can be pleasant to have some
orderliness in our household and in our lives, then we can model that
for them, and give that to them as a gift. But kids really don't see
the messes and the dirty laundry in the same way that we do -- they
can appreciate the gift of a freshly vacuumed floor as a great place
to get out the Legos, but not until they're a bit older are they going
to make the connections as to the hows and whys of getting the floor
clean in the first place.
Peace,
Amy
<momofallseasons@c...> wrote:
==> I wonder if I should just pick up the dirty clothes as I do the
laundry or
> just leave it be. ==Hi Jamie! How nice to see someone I know IRL on this list -- wow!
What would your son like you to do? Have you asked him?
If it were me, I'd pick up the clothes (unless my child didn't want me
to, for some reason). If your son is in the room at the time, it's a
nice time to chat for a few minutes.
In my house, I also put away the clothes (well, and sometimes we dress
ourselves out of a laundry basket <G>). I know I love the feeling of
opening a drawer and seeing a pile of clean folded shirts -- all my
choices in one place.
For my son (who doesn't get dressed even close to every day), I know
that it's a satisfying feeling for him, too, to have all his favorite
clothes clean and available in one place so that he can choose what
will make him feel really spiffy for that day.
I don't know if you're asking this because you're wondering if your
son should be expected to do some of the work or not. I do think that
if we want our kids to learn how it can be pleasant to have some
orderliness in our household and in our lives, then we can model that
for them, and give that to them as a gift. But kids really don't see
the messes and the dirty laundry in the same way that we do -- they
can appreciate the gift of a freshly vacuumed floor as a great place
to get out the Legos, but not until they're a bit older are they going
to make the connections as to the hows and whys of getting the floor
clean in the first place.
Peace,
Amy
arcarpenter2003
--- In [email protected], tuckervill2@a... wrote:
== Eliminate the problem by making sure he has a cool and convenient
> place to put his dirty clothes, and then just ask him to bring it
down when
> you need it.==
Yes, I meant to add that my 7-year-old son has a hamper in his room
(and loves to make baskets). When I still find clothes on his floor,
it usually means that he wasn't sure if they were clean enough to wear
again or not, and he put them there out of indecision. So I look them
over and sniff them, and if he's there, he sees what I'm looking for
and has that information.
Peace,
Amy
arcarpenter2003
--- In [email protected], "nellebelle"
<nellebelle@c...> wrote:
==> Can anybody share new ideas for storing children's clothing?
Jackie doesn't like to use the closet and doesn't enjoy digging in the
drawers. We're thinking of trying cubes. Any other ideas?==
Open bins? Smallish ones, and then you might just lay clothes in
there instead of folding them? Hooks on the wall for favorite shirts,
pants, etc., or on the wall of the closet?
Peace,
Amy
<nellebelle@c...> wrote:
==> Can anybody share new ideas for storing children's clothing?
Jackie doesn't like to use the closet and doesn't enjoy digging in the
drawers. We're thinking of trying cubes. Any other ideas?==
Open bins? Smallish ones, and then you might just lay clothes in
there instead of folding them? Hooks on the wall for favorite shirts,
pants, etc., or on the wall of the closet?
Peace,
Amy
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/21/2005 12:18:42 AM Central Standard Time,
nellebelle@... writes:
Can anybody share new ideas for storing children's clothing? Jackie doesn't
like to use the closet and doesn't enjoy digging in the drawers. We're
thinking of trying cubes. Any other ideas?
~~~
Someone around here or AOL posted once that their clothes never leave the
laundry room unless they're on someone's back. IOW, they put their clothes
storage in the laundry room, and everyone changes in there, so no one ever has
clothes in their room at all, except what they're wearing.
I think that's an excellent idea, if you have a laundry room. That doesn't
really answer your question, though.
One thing I do is limit the amount of clothes Will has to what will fit in
his drawer. (Since kids grow so fast, it's easy to cull out the too-smalls
when you buy new undies.) So there's one small drawer with his boxers stacked
on top of each other, not folded, just laid out flat. And then there's only
the socks that can fit in the other small drawer. Shorts in the next drawer,
and his shorts are much longer now so I can only fit 4 or 5 in there, and I
don't fold them small...just lay them out folded in half. (The last drawer
holds all his baseball uniform shirts and hats from the 8 previous
seasons--we're saving them for his Hall of Fame display. lol.) His t-shirts are
hanging on hangers in the closet. He has many more t-shirts than anything else.
Some are sentimental so we can't get rid of them. When he was smaller, he
could pull t-shirts off the hanger just by yanking on the t-shirt.
Pants are another matter. I hang them on hangers because there's no other
place. But I still have to go dig them out of the closet for him like I did
when he was short, because they get swallowed up by the t-shirts. If it were
my closet, I would have all the pants on one side and all the t-shirts on
another. But, he puts his own clothes away now and I'm not going to enforce
that for him. So, when he needs a particular pair of pants, I go upstairs and
dig them out. I don't mind.
My middle son could never stay organized. He just had a big dresser with
nothing folded at all. I sorted his socks, undies, t-shirts and what have you
into piles, and he just dumped them into the appropriate drawers. It was
okay with him, so it was okay with me. Ironically, his pants were always hung
up neatly in the closet.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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nellebelle@... writes:
Can anybody share new ideas for storing children's clothing? Jackie doesn't
like to use the closet and doesn't enjoy digging in the drawers. We're
thinking of trying cubes. Any other ideas?
~~~
Someone around here or AOL posted once that their clothes never leave the
laundry room unless they're on someone's back. IOW, they put their clothes
storage in the laundry room, and everyone changes in there, so no one ever has
clothes in their room at all, except what they're wearing.
I think that's an excellent idea, if you have a laundry room. That doesn't
really answer your question, though.
One thing I do is limit the amount of clothes Will has to what will fit in
his drawer. (Since kids grow so fast, it's easy to cull out the too-smalls
when you buy new undies.) So there's one small drawer with his boxers stacked
on top of each other, not folded, just laid out flat. And then there's only
the socks that can fit in the other small drawer. Shorts in the next drawer,
and his shorts are much longer now so I can only fit 4 or 5 in there, and I
don't fold them small...just lay them out folded in half. (The last drawer
holds all his baseball uniform shirts and hats from the 8 previous
seasons--we're saving them for his Hall of Fame display. lol.) His t-shirts are
hanging on hangers in the closet. He has many more t-shirts than anything else.
Some are sentimental so we can't get rid of them. When he was smaller, he
could pull t-shirts off the hanger just by yanking on the t-shirt.
Pants are another matter. I hang them on hangers because there's no other
place. But I still have to go dig them out of the closet for him like I did
when he was short, because they get swallowed up by the t-shirts. If it were
my closet, I would have all the pants on one side and all the t-shirts on
another. But, he puts his own clothes away now and I'm not going to enforce
that for him. So, when he needs a particular pair of pants, I go upstairs and
dig them out. I don't mind.
My middle son could never stay organized. He just had a big dresser with
nothing folded at all. I sorted his socks, undies, t-shirts and what have you
into piles, and he just dumped them into the appropriate drawers. It was
okay with him, so it was okay with me. Ironically, his pants were always hung
up neatly in the closet.
Karen
www.badchair.net
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Julie W
tuckervill2@... wrote:
Here ds and I have a habit of just leaving the clean clothes in the
laundry baskets (we have a lot of them) until we need them.
Drives dh crazy.
Of course I leave clothes in the dryer and washing machine too long for
him to. He does his own laundry.
A few times a month I will feel the need to hang my clothes up because I
can't find something that I know is clean.
Once a month I'll go into Josh's room and help him put away his clothes
so I can see what he has. That is if dh has not freaked out on the boy
and made him put all his clothes away.
The fabric clutter on the floor gets to me too and if I ask ds to pick
up his room (lots of times I'll just pick it up) he pretty much knows
that I would be happier if his clothes/blankets went back in the
appropriate dirty clothes hamper or clothes basket or drawer or on his bed.
--
Julie W
http://jwoolfolk.typepad.com/theothermother/
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>I so wish my laundry room was big enough.
>
> In a message dated 5/21/2005 12:18:42 AM Central Standard Time,
> nellebelle@... writes:
>
> Can anybody share new ideas for storing children's clothing? Jackie
> doesn't
> like to use the closet and doesn't enjoy digging in the drawers. We're
> thinking of trying cubes. Any other ideas?
>
>
>
> ~~~
>
> Someone around here or AOL posted once that their clothes never leave
> the
> laundry room unless they're on someone's back. IOW, they put their
> clothes
> storage in the laundry room, and everyone changes in there, so no one
> ever has
> clothes in their room at all, except what they're wearing.
>
> I think that's an excellent idea, if you have a laundry room. That
> doesn't
> really answer your question, though.
Here ds and I have a habit of just leaving the clean clothes in the
laundry baskets (we have a lot of them) until we need them.
Drives dh crazy.
Of course I leave clothes in the dryer and washing machine too long for
him to. He does his own laundry.
A few times a month I will feel the need to hang my clothes up because I
can't find something that I know is clean.
Once a month I'll go into Josh's room and help him put away his clothes
so I can see what he has. That is if dh has not freaked out on the boy
and made him put all his clothes away.
The fabric clutter on the floor gets to me too and if I ask ds to pick
up his room (lots of times I'll just pick it up) he pretty much knows
that I would be happier if his clothes/blankets went back in the
appropriate dirty clothes hamper or clothes basket or drawer or on his bed.
--
Julie W
http://jwoolfolk.typepad.com/theothermother/
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Pam Sorooshian
On May 21, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Julie W wrote:
on the couch, on the coffee table, on the floor, on the ironing board
that is still up, on the back of the chair I"m sitting in, in a laundry
basket on the dining table. Looks like about 2/3 of it is folded.
I think my family really would prefer to live in a nice big one-room
house. Apparently that now includes preferring to keep their laundry
out here, too, along with everything else.
I guess I'm not recommending this as a storage system, but it IS an
option and I guess I should be open-minded about considering it. Let's
see - maybe we could assign areas of the room to different family
members?
-pam
>> Can anybody share new ideas for storing children's clothing? JackieI'm sitting on a chair in my living room - looking at clean laundry --
>> doesn't
>> like to use the closet and doesn't enjoy digging in the drawers.
>> We're
>> thinking of trying cubes. Any other ideas?
on the couch, on the coffee table, on the floor, on the ironing board
that is still up, on the back of the chair I"m sitting in, in a laundry
basket on the dining table. Looks like about 2/3 of it is folded.
I think my family really would prefer to live in a nice big one-room
house. Apparently that now includes preferring to keep their laundry
out here, too, along with everything else.
I guess I'm not recommending this as a storage system, but it IS an
option and I guess I should be open-minded about considering it. Let's
see - maybe we could assign areas of the room to different family
members?
-pam
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/21/2005 9:27:59 PM Central Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
I guess I'm not recommending this as a storage system, but it IS an
option and I guess I should be open-minded about considering it. Let's
see - maybe we could assign areas of the room to different family
members?
~~~
That must be how people evolved from one room sod houses to multi-bedroom
mansions?
I frankly try to create fail proof systems that keep things like this a
no-brainer. My mind works in these ways. I live in a house full of boys/men,
and if I can just tell them exactly what their next step is (If I have clean
socks in my hand, then they must go in the drawer), they are happier.
I just wish they could learn the one that says, "if the vacuum cleaner is in
the middle of the floor, then turn it on and push it around the room". lol.
Karen
Karen
www.badchair.net
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
I guess I'm not recommending this as a storage system, but it IS an
option and I guess I should be open-minded about considering it. Let's
see - maybe we could assign areas of the room to different family
members?
~~~
That must be how people evolved from one room sod houses to multi-bedroom
mansions?
I frankly try to create fail proof systems that keep things like this a
no-brainer. My mind works in these ways. I live in a house full of boys/men,
and if I can just tell them exactly what their next step is (If I have clean
socks in my hand, then they must go in the drawer), they are happier.
I just wish they could learn the one that says, "if the vacuum cleaner is in
the middle of the floor, then turn it on and push it around the room". lol.
Karen
Karen
www.badchair.net
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Elizabeth Hill
**I'm sitting on a chair in my living room - looking at clean laundry --
on the couch, on the coffee table...**
Our clean laundry stays in the dryer a long time and stays in the "clean" basket (tucked away in a not very conspicuous spot in our bedroom) for a really really long time.
My son's socks are the leading indicator for when we are about to run out of clean clothing. Being small, they seem to work their way to the bottom of the hamper and seem to fall off the bottom of the armloads of clean laundry (back on to the laundry room floor where they disguise themselves as dirty laundry).
Our clothes are not crisply unrumpled, um, ever, but we don't rise above the level of T-shirts and khakis, um, ever, either. <g>
Betsy
PS
**Let's see - maybe we could assign areas of the room to different family
members?**
This brings to mind the amusing picture of a toddler ducking behind the living room couch every morning to get dressed. That'd be fun!
on the couch, on the coffee table...**
Our clean laundry stays in the dryer a long time and stays in the "clean" basket (tucked away in a not very conspicuous spot in our bedroom) for a really really long time.
My son's socks are the leading indicator for when we are about to run out of clean clothing. Being small, they seem to work their way to the bottom of the hamper and seem to fall off the bottom of the armloads of clean laundry (back on to the laundry room floor where they disguise themselves as dirty laundry).
Our clothes are not crisply unrumpled, um, ever, but we don't rise above the level of T-shirts and khakis, um, ever, either. <g>
Betsy
PS
**Let's see - maybe we could assign areas of the room to different family
members?**
This brings to mind the amusing picture of a toddler ducking behind the living room couch every morning to get dressed. That'd be fun!
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/22/2005 9:56:56 AM Central Standard Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:
My son's socks are the leading indicator for when we are about to run out of
clean clothing. Being small, they seem to work their way to the bottom of
the hamper and seem to fall off the bottom of the armloads of clean laundry
(back on to the laundry room floor where they disguise themselves as dirty
laundry).
~~~
I watched CBS Sunday Morning like I try to do every week, and there was a
story about a Hub Cap Annie in Denver, I think it was (there's a Hub Cap Annie
place in lots of cities). She just collects hub caps and sells them, and
then there were people who just collected them and hung them on the fence or
whatever.
I began to wonder if I could become a Lost Sock Annie? What if you could
gather up all the unmatched socks in the world and make a ramshackle store
where people could buy mates to their socks? What else could you collect?
Karen
www.badchair.net
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ecsamhill@... writes:
My son's socks are the leading indicator for when we are about to run out of
clean clothing. Being small, they seem to work their way to the bottom of
the hamper and seem to fall off the bottom of the armloads of clean laundry
(back on to the laundry room floor where they disguise themselves as dirty
laundry).
~~~
I watched CBS Sunday Morning like I try to do every week, and there was a
story about a Hub Cap Annie in Denver, I think it was (there's a Hub Cap Annie
place in lots of cities). She just collects hub caps and sells them, and
then there were people who just collected them and hung them on the fence or
whatever.
I began to wonder if I could become a Lost Sock Annie? What if you could
gather up all the unmatched socks in the world and make a ramshackle store
where people could buy mates to their socks? What else could you collect?
Karen
www.badchair.net
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[email protected]
In a message dated 5/22/2005 10:58:04 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
tuckervill2@... writes:
What if you could
gather up all the unmatched socks in the world and make a ramshackle store
where people could buy mates to their socks? What else could you collect?
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gloves
game pieces
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tuckervill2@... writes:
What if you could
gather up all the unmatched socks in the world and make a ramshackle store
where people could buy mates to their socks? What else could you collect?
-------------------
gloves
game pieces
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Robyn Coburn
<<<<What if you could
gather up all the unmatched socks in the world and make a ramshackle store
where people could buy mates to their socks? What else could you collect?
-------------------
gloves
game pieces>>>
Lone puzzle pieces
Robyn L. Coburn
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Elizabeth Hill
**
I began to wonder if I could become a Lost Sock Annie? What if you could
gather up all the unmatched socks in the world and make a ramshackle store
where people could buy mates to their socks? What else could you collect?**
Missing tupperware lids?
Throwing rolled up "sock bombs" is popular at my house as a diversion from laundry folding. I'm sure there is a wealth of sock-age (?) behind much of my furniture!
Betsy
I began to wonder if I could become a Lost Sock Annie? What if you could
gather up all the unmatched socks in the world and make a ramshackle store
where people could buy mates to their socks? What else could you collect?**
Missing tupperware lids?
Throwing rolled up "sock bombs" is popular at my house as a diversion from laundry folding. I'm sure there is a wealth of sock-age (?) behind much of my furniture!
Betsy