car ride advice
nellebelle
I hope this is an OK question to ask here. Here is the short question: Any
advice on helping a 10yo kid with motion sickness tendencies better endure a
4 hour car ride? We have tried Dramamine (sort of works, but puts her out
and she HATES to take it); those bracelets that are worn on the wrist with
pressure points (didn't work); leave as late in the day as possible
(definitely helps); eating just the right amount beforehand and having
certain snacks for the ride (helps somewhat). Reading doesn't help,
listening to stories on tape does.
Here is some related stuff that I'm thinking about. This same daughter
doesn't like to go in elevators. Not much of a problem, as there aren't
very many in our community, and the few that we do have are in short
buildings, so taking the stairs is a reasonable option. Dd told gramma (my
mom) that she has a phobia about elevators. (Dd learned that a fear of
something is called a phobia, and so she did use the term to refer to her
dislike of elevators, but has certainly never been to a psychologist for
diagnosis of this!) My mom, who has a background in psychiatric nursing,
told me that I need to force her to go in elevators, because that is the
only way she will overcome this "phobia". Allowing her to avoid elevators
will only make it worse, she says. My mom referred to her own "phobia" of
driving on the freeway. She avoided the freeway for years, until finally
she needed to go some places that were nearly impossible without freeway
driving. She drives the freeway regularly now, though she still is
uncomfortable with it. I pointed out that when she finally wanted to bad
enough, then she was able to do it.
Tonight at dinner, dh asked if we want to go with him this weekend to visit
Gramma, a 4 hour car ride. Lisa had tears in her eyes and said she doesn't
like the car ride. My recent conversation with my mom about the elevator
"phobia" came to mind, even though I thought my moms concerns were
overblown. Everyone else in the family would like to go on the trip. Lisa
would like to see Gramma, but doesn't want to have to go in the car to see
her.
I'm willing to consider any thoughts that anyone is willing to share on this
issue. She doesn't always get sick, but I know that trips are stressful for
her because she does worry about it. I also know that "feeling" carsick,
even if you don't get sick, is NO FUN!
Mary Ellen
advice on helping a 10yo kid with motion sickness tendencies better endure a
4 hour car ride? We have tried Dramamine (sort of works, but puts her out
and she HATES to take it); those bracelets that are worn on the wrist with
pressure points (didn't work); leave as late in the day as possible
(definitely helps); eating just the right amount beforehand and having
certain snacks for the ride (helps somewhat). Reading doesn't help,
listening to stories on tape does.
Here is some related stuff that I'm thinking about. This same daughter
doesn't like to go in elevators. Not much of a problem, as there aren't
very many in our community, and the few that we do have are in short
buildings, so taking the stairs is a reasonable option. Dd told gramma (my
mom) that she has a phobia about elevators. (Dd learned that a fear of
something is called a phobia, and so she did use the term to refer to her
dislike of elevators, but has certainly never been to a psychologist for
diagnosis of this!) My mom, who has a background in psychiatric nursing,
told me that I need to force her to go in elevators, because that is the
only way she will overcome this "phobia". Allowing her to avoid elevators
will only make it worse, she says. My mom referred to her own "phobia" of
driving on the freeway. She avoided the freeway for years, until finally
she needed to go some places that were nearly impossible without freeway
driving. She drives the freeway regularly now, though she still is
uncomfortable with it. I pointed out that when she finally wanted to bad
enough, then she was able to do it.
Tonight at dinner, dh asked if we want to go with him this weekend to visit
Gramma, a 4 hour car ride. Lisa had tears in her eyes and said she doesn't
like the car ride. My recent conversation with my mom about the elevator
"phobia" came to mind, even though I thought my moms concerns were
overblown. Everyone else in the family would like to go on the trip. Lisa
would like to see Gramma, but doesn't want to have to go in the car to see
her.
I'm willing to consider any thoughts that anyone is willing to share on this
issue. She doesn't always get sick, but I know that trips are stressful for
her because she does worry about it. I also know that "feeling" carsick,
even if you don't get sick, is NO FUN!
Mary Ellen
Rachel Ann
Here's what works with me and my family.
1. something salty to eat.
2. DON'T READ this makes it worse. Probably it is best if she can close her
eyes and listen to a tape with headphones on.
3. Frequent breaks to walk about and get some fresh air. (every hour or even
less if possible.)
4. Ginger helps some people with nausea.
and here is a website full of different ideas...
good luck!!!!
http://www.momsminivan.com/article-barf.html
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Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:51:08 PM
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Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] car ride advice
I hope this is an OK question to ask here. Here is the short question: Any
advice on helping a 10yo kid with motion sickness tendencies better endure a
4 hour car ride? We have tried Dramamine (sort of works, but puts her out
and she HATES to take it); those bracelets that are worn on the wrist with
pressure points (didn't work); leave as late in the day as possible
(definitely helps); eating just the right amount beforehand and having
certain snacks for the ride (helps somewhat). Reading doesn't help,
listening to stories on tape does.
Here is some related stuff that I'm thinking about. This same daughter
doesn't like to go in elevators. Not much of a problem, as there aren't
very many in our community, and the few that we do have are in short
buildings, so taking the stairs is a reasonable option. Dd told gramma (my
mom) that she has a phobia about elevators. (Dd learned that a fear of
something is called a phobia, and so she did use the term to refer to her
dislike of elevators, but has certainly never been to a psychologist for
diagnosis of this!) My mom, who has a background in psychiatric nursing,
told me that I need to force her to go in elevators, because that is the
only way she will overcome this "phobia". Allowing her to avoid elevators
will only make it worse, she says. My mom referred to her own "phobia" of
driving on the freeway. She avoided the freeway for years, until finally
she needed to go some places that were nearly impossible without freeway
driving. She drives the freeway regularly now, though she still is
uncomfortable with it. I pointed out that when she finally wanted to bad
enough, then she was able to do it.
Tonight at dinner, dh asked if we want to go with him this weekend to visit
Gramma, a 4 hour car ride. Lisa had tears in her eyes and said she doesn't
like the car ride. My recent conversation with my mom about the elevator
"phobia" came to mind, even though I thought my moms concerns were
overblown. Everyone else in the family would like to go on the trip. Lisa
would like to see Gramma, but doesn't want to have to go in the car to see
her.
I'm willing to consider any thoughts that anyone is willing to share on this
issue. She doesn't always get sick, but I know that trips are stressful for
her because she does worry about it. I also know that "feeling" carsick,
even if you don't get sick, is NO FUN!
Mary Ellen
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1. something salty to eat.
2. DON'T READ this makes it worse. Probably it is best if she can close her
eyes and listen to a tape with headphones on.
3. Frequent breaks to walk about and get some fresh air. (every hour or even
less if possible.)
4. Ginger helps some people with nausea.
and here is a website full of different ideas...
good luck!!!!
http://www.momsminivan.com/article-barf.html
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Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:51:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] car ride advice
I hope this is an OK question to ask here. Here is the short question: Any
advice on helping a 10yo kid with motion sickness tendencies better endure a
4 hour car ride? We have tried Dramamine (sort of works, but puts her out
and she HATES to take it); those bracelets that are worn on the wrist with
pressure points (didn't work); leave as late in the day as possible
(definitely helps); eating just the right amount beforehand and having
certain snacks for the ride (helps somewhat). Reading doesn't help,
listening to stories on tape does.
Here is some related stuff that I'm thinking about. This same daughter
doesn't like to go in elevators. Not much of a problem, as there aren't
very many in our community, and the few that we do have are in short
buildings, so taking the stairs is a reasonable option. Dd told gramma (my
mom) that she has a phobia about elevators. (Dd learned that a fear of
something is called a phobia, and so she did use the term to refer to her
dislike of elevators, but has certainly never been to a psychologist for
diagnosis of this!) My mom, who has a background in psychiatric nursing,
told me that I need to force her to go in elevators, because that is the
only way she will overcome this "phobia". Allowing her to avoid elevators
will only make it worse, she says. My mom referred to her own "phobia" of
driving on the freeway. She avoided the freeway for years, until finally
she needed to go some places that were nearly impossible without freeway
driving. She drives the freeway regularly now, though she still is
uncomfortable with it. I pointed out that when she finally wanted to bad
enough, then she was able to do it.
Tonight at dinner, dh asked if we want to go with him this weekend to visit
Gramma, a 4 hour car ride. Lisa had tears in her eyes and said she doesn't
like the car ride. My recent conversation with my mom about the elevator
"phobia" came to mind, even though I thought my moms concerns were
overblown. Everyone else in the family would like to go on the trip. Lisa
would like to see Gramma, but doesn't want to have to go in the car to see
her.
I'm willing to consider any thoughts that anyone is willing to share on this
issue. She doesn't always get sick, but I know that trips are stressful for
her because she does worry about it. I also know that "feeling" carsick,
even if you don't get sick, is NO FUN!
Mary Ellen
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On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:08:01 -0800 "nellebelle" <nellebelle@...>
writes:
Just a thought....but could it be a phobia of confined spaces? I don't
have any experience with motion sickness, but fresh air helps immensely
with claustrophobia. Even if you just crack the window open slightly it
might help. Ask her to take deep breaths if she starts feeling queasy.
Also, things to keep her mind off the fact that she is inside a 4'x6'
box, like a magna doodle, dry wipe markers and board, a sewing project,
etc. I, personally, get a ton of crocheting done while on the road.<g> As
far as "forcing her to face fears", been there, done that, didn't work.
You just find ways around it.
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writes:
> I hope this is an OK question to ask here. Here is the shorttendencies >better endure a 4 hour car ride?
> question: Any advice on helping a 10yo kid with motion sickness
Just a thought....but could it be a phobia of confined spaces? I don't
have any experience with motion sickness, but fresh air helps immensely
with claustrophobia. Even if you just crack the window open slightly it
might help. Ask her to take deep breaths if she starts feeling queasy.
Also, things to keep her mind off the fact that she is inside a 4'x6'
box, like a magna doodle, dry wipe markers and board, a sewing project,
etc. I, personally, get a ton of crocheting done while on the road.<g> As
far as "forcing her to face fears", been there, done that, didn't work.
You just find ways around it.
Wende
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In a message dated 2/19/2003 4:01:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
love-it-here@... writes:
map while the car is moving, LOTS of air helps, salty snacks help and like
another person said, stopping OFTEN. Being able to focus on the horizon and
not something up close helps most for me.
Good luck!
glena
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love-it-here@... writes:
> Also, things to keep her mind off the fact that she is inside a 4'x6'Reading ANYTHING in a moving car makes me VERY sick, not even a brochure or
> box, like a magna doodle, dry wipe markers and board, a sewing project,
> etc.
map while the car is moving, LOTS of air helps, salty snacks help and like
another person said, stopping OFTEN. Being able to focus on the horizon and
not something up close helps most for me.
Good luck!
glena
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In a message dated 2/19/2003 11:52:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,
nellebelle@... writes:
bottle. It works great for one of my kids who is also prone to getting
carsick. She might also benefit from some homeopathic aconite for fears and
uneasiness relating to elevators or car rides. I took it when I had to fly
right after 9/11 and was terrified. It helped a lot.
Good luck,
Carol
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nellebelle@... writes:
> I hope this is an OK question to ask here. Here is the short question: AnyTry having her breathe some peppermint essential oil straight out of the
> advice on helping a 10yo kid with motion sickness tendencies better endure
> a
> 4 hour car ride?
bottle. It works great for one of my kids who is also prone to getting
carsick. She might also benefit from some homeopathic aconite for fears and
uneasiness relating to elevators or car rides. I took it when I had to fly
right after 9/11 and was terrified. It helped a lot.
Good luck,
Carol
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In a message dated 2/19/03 2:01:20 PM, love-it-here@... writes:
<< Also, things to keep her mind off the fact that she is inside a 4'x6'
box, like a magna doodle, dry wipe markers and board, a sewing project,
etc. I, personally, get a ton of crocheting done while on the road.<g> >>
Must be because you don't get carsick!
None of that will help motion sickness.
Sandra
<< Also, things to keep her mind off the fact that she is inside a 4'x6'
box, like a magna doodle, dry wipe markers and board, a sewing project,
etc. I, personally, get a ton of crocheting done while on the road.<g> >>
Must be because you don't get carsick!
None of that will help motion sickness.
Sandra
Mary Bianco
>From: SandraDodd@...In a message dated 2/19/03 2:01:20 PM, love-it-here@... writes:
<< Also, things to keep her mind off the fact that she is inside a 4'x6'
box, like a magna doodle, dry wipe markers and board, a sewing project,
etc. I, personally, get a ton of crocheting done while on the road.<g>>
MWe are all human. Whatever you do, protect your quit. Don`t ever risk it
for anyone or any reason.
<<Must be because you don't get carsick!
None of that will help motion sickness.>>
Actually, Sierra use to get very car sick and those things did help her.
Well not sewing but Magna Doodle and similar things. Just keeping her busy
in the car and not having her look out the window worked. Poor thing would
look just awful until we figured out what worked. Even bringing her people
in the van worked. As long as her mind was occupied and she didn't watch
outside she was fine. Still is.
Mary B
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She might also benefit from some homeopathic aconite for fears and
Sheila
> uneasiness relating to elevators or car rides. I took it when Ihad to fly
> right after 9/11 and was terrified. It helped a lot.My guess for a homeopathic remedy would have been arsenicum.
Sheila
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In a message dated 2/19/03 3:51:55 PM, mummyone24@... writes:
<< We are all human. Whatever you do, protect your quit. Don`t ever risk it
for anyone or any reason. >>
quilt?
?
<< We are all human. Whatever you do, protect your quit. Don`t ever risk it
for anyone or any reason. >>
quilt?
?
Lisa Anselmo <[email protected]>
My son (8) and I both suffer from motion sickness. Chewable,
non-drowsy Dramamine is effective for us, and we absolutely
swear by ginger. (Remember your mom giving you ginger ale
when you felt sick?) I keep crystalized ginger in my purse to
nibble, and if you can find ginger beer (stronger than ginger ale),
that helps also. Something salty, like crackers or pretzels, along
with ginger beer or cold water to sip. Neither one of us can look
at anything such as a book, toy, map, etc. Focusing out the front
window, not the side, and window cracked. Audios are good, as
is conversation. Anything that requires looking down is
nauseating. Sitting in the center of the back seat helps, if that is
possible.
Lisa
non-drowsy Dramamine is effective for us, and we absolutely
swear by ginger. (Remember your mom giving you ginger ale
when you felt sick?) I keep crystalized ginger in my purse to
nibble, and if you can find ginger beer (stronger than ginger ale),
that helps also. Something salty, like crackers or pretzels, along
with ginger beer or cold water to sip. Neither one of us can look
at anything such as a book, toy, map, etc. Focusing out the front
window, not the side, and window cracked. Audios are good, as
is conversation. Anything that requires looking down is
nauseating. Sitting in the center of the back seat helps, if that is
possible.
Lisa
Tia Leschke
>No, no, no, no! At least not if it's actually car-sickness, as opposed to
> Just a thought....but could it be a phobia of confined spaces? I don't
> have any experience with motion sickness, but fresh air helps immensely
> with claustrophobia. Even if you just crack the window open slightly it
> might help. Ask her to take deep breaths if she starts feeling queasy.
> Also, things to keep her mind off the fact that she is inside a 4'x6'
> box, like a magna doodle, dry wipe markers and board, a sewing project,
> etc. I, personally, get a ton of crocheting done while on the road.<g>
claustrophobia. Focusing on anything *inside* or to the side of the car is
almost a recipe for car-sickness in someone so disposed.
Tia
Mary Bianco
>From: SandraDodd@...<< We are all human. Whatever you do, protect your quit. Don`t ever risk it
>In a message dated 2/19/03 3:51:55 PM, mummyone24@... writes:
for anyone or any reason. >> quilt?>>
LOL!!! I swear I have no idea where that came from. When I saw it on my
post, I had to go back and look and see if it was something you wrote Sandra
and I missed it. I know I didn't write it. I didn't even understand it!!!
Protect your quilt??!!! Too funny. I'll chalk it up to the puter gremlin.
Mary B
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Reading or looking at anything other than where we're headed makes me sick.
Turning around or even sideways to help the kids with something can make me
sick, so you might want to suggest not squirming too much. (Remember those
frequent stops!) I do remember being comfortable in the car as a kid, lying
down across the back seat looking out the window and seeing only sky and
telephone poles go by. (And I did leave my seatbelt on...but it was a lap
belt.)
I feel so lucky that neither kid is massively prone to carsickness, since my
husband and I both are. I still have an aversion to long cars trips. I
can't believe my parents drove us around as much as they did. I remember my
mom stocking the back seat with two coffee cans, one for me and one for my
bro to barf in.
Pam T.
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Turning around or even sideways to help the kids with something can make me
sick, so you might want to suggest not squirming too much. (Remember those
frequent stops!) I do remember being comfortable in the car as a kid, lying
down across the back seat looking out the window and seeing only sky and
telephone poles go by. (And I did leave my seatbelt on...but it was a lap
belt.)
I feel so lucky that neither kid is massively prone to carsickness, since my
husband and I both are. I still have an aversion to long cars trips. I
can't believe my parents drove us around as much as they did. I remember my
mom stocking the back seat with two coffee cans, one for me and one for my
bro to barf in.
Pam T.
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This is too weird!!! The Gremlin that posted this:
But anyway, in response to Sandra's (I think) post, I get queasy in
closed cars, elevators, airplanes etc. but not open amusement rides, or
convertibles. The original poster mentioned that her child had problems
in the car and elevators. I made suggestions referring to things that
have helped me overcoming queasiness on long car rides. Different people
get carsick for different reasons, and not every remedy helps every
person.
Wende
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> << We are all human. Whatever you do, protect your quit. Don`t evermust have ate Sandra's post, because I never received this:
> risk it for anyone or any reason. >> >
> <<Must be because you don't get carsick! None of that will help motionsickness.>>
But anyway, in response to Sandra's (I think) post, I get queasy in
closed cars, elevators, airplanes etc. but not open amusement rides, or
convertibles. The original poster mentioned that her child had problems
in the car and elevators. I made suggestions referring to things that
have helped me overcoming queasiness on long car rides. Different people
get carsick for different reasons, and not every remedy helps every
person.
Wende
> LOL!!! I swear I have no idea where that came from. When I saw it on________________________________________________________________
> my
> post, I had to go back and look and see if it was something you
> wrote Sandra
> and I missed it. I know I didn't write it. I didn't even understand
> it!!!
> Protect your quilt??!!! Too funny. I'll chalk it up to the puter
> gremlin.
>
> Mary B
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Christina Morrissey
>Hey Mary Ellen.......There's a really interesting new book out called Carschooling by Dianne
Flynn Keith. She addresses car sickness and states that it is caused
because "information fed to the brain from the eyes and from the inner ear
is out of synch. In a car, passengers (especially those in the backseat)
may not be looking at the horizon ahead, so their eyes don't register the
movement even though the liquid in their inner ear is being stimulated by
the movement of the car. The eyes tell the brain there is no movement, but
the inner ear relays the opposite message. The conflicting information to
the brain results in nausea for those especially sensitive to the
mismatched cues." (This may explain elevators....ear can tell movement, not
the eye...My daughter has severe ear canal scarring from ear infections and
gets car sick, air sick and also doesn't like elevators)
Her suggestions:
"1) Sit where there is an unobstructed view of the outside horizon: the
front seat is ideal. Looking outside side windows is not as effective and
may exacerbate the problem.
2) Never read or draw in the car. It takes your gaze off the horizon,
causing the eyes to not measure movement, in opposition to the inner ear,
which detects movement, resulting in nausea. (See note below re videos
etc. I think if you can get them really involved in something long term,
versus short term like reading or drawing where they might be looking down
one minute and then up the next, that this may be a different case.)
3) Roll the window down. [Fresh air will help]
4). Stop regularly. (She suggests up to every 10-15 minutes!!)
5) Eat a light meal before. Avoid greasy, fatty, heavy foods and meals
like burgers and fries. Try saltines or apple slices. Popsicles may
soothe upset tummies.
6) Drink water. Avoid acidic beverages like orange juice. Sipping coke
will help settle the stomach--in fact, you can purchase straight Coke syrup
from pharmacies for this purpose.
7) Eliminate strong odors from the car environment as much as possible. Do
not wear perfume in the car. No smoking in the car. Try to avoid
congested areas where car/truck/bus exhaust fumes are prevalent.
8) Try the wrist bands...(which you did)
9) Try over-the-counter motion sickness pills such as Dramamine or
Bonine. Some cause drowsiness.
10) Try ginger. Chinese sailors used ginger to quell sea sickness and
scientists have confirmed its effectiveness. Capsules with dried ginger
inside or dried ginger chips can be purchased in health food
stores. Candied ginger, ginger snap cookies and real ginger ale have also
been shown to be effective."
Activities That Don't Make You Car Sick
"Listen to music
Listen to books and short stories on tape.
Focus on games that require players to look out the window to find the
funniest, strangest, bluest (or whatever) bumper sticker, car, billboard,
or some object. Having fun while learning at the same time may help to
take some passengers' minds off car sickness.
Sing songs
Play I Spy, 20 Questions, and other word/talking games."
(My daughter uses her personal CD player with her head phones, or we take
along our AC/DC 9" color TV/VCR for the long trips with the headphones and
the kids (2) watch movies. It has been the one thing she can do and not
have a problem. Books on tape work marvelous for us too though, and keep
the driver entertained, especially the Harry Potter ones!)
Christina Morrissey
mom to Erin, 10 and Travis 14
north of Seattle
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nellebelle
What is a quit?
BTW, she doesn't get sick on boats, but has only been on small, open air
boats. She loves them!
Mary Ellen
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BTW, she doesn't get sick on boats, but has only been on small, open air
boats. She loves them!
Mary Ellen
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