Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Re: Words WAS Acceptable for group?
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In a message dated 1/28/2003 8:40:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
This was before I got my "potty mouth". It might have been what changed my
view of words---whether they are bad and all. They're just words. My roommate
lived on the Caloosahatchie River. We joked that Caloosahatchie could just
have easily have been decided by the English-speaking-world to be the word
for "shit". Why did Shit get to be shit? So we started using Caloosahatchie
instead of shit. Or Caloo for short. We changed a lot of words that night,
but Caloo is the only one I remember.
We also talked about folks' reactions to words and how anger/meanness could
be the reason for most "definitions". Or maybe connotations.
Bitch is an everyday word here (I'm a dog show nut)---so my boys didn't know
it shouldn't be used in polite society. <G> "This is Soda Pop, our dog, and
Basia, our bitch."
There's no doubt that words are powerful. As someone said earlier---look what
just happened here.
And conference attendees will never forget "LOWING"! <G>
Someone's Granny can say something---or a two year old!---and we can't help
but snigger. What is it that makes the same wods coming out of an adult's
mouth NOT funny?
I DO love words---how they got here, where they're going. The word pregnant
was banned on TV for YEARS. Now we have gay Will trying to impregnate Grace.
Go figure! The evolution of words is fascinating.
Who KNOWS what will be the "four-letter" words 50-100 years from now. SO cool
to speculate. (and why ARE so many FOUR letters???)
~Kelly
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rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
> Of course my mother the "saint" who would go balistic if we said "butt" hasAn old college boyfriend and I had this discussion on late into one evening.
> quite the mouth on her but it's in a mean nasty type of way and not at all
> cute... but she's like that in every aspect of life, mean nasty, so I guess
>
> it's got something to do with more than just the actual WORD?
This was before I got my "potty mouth". It might have been what changed my
view of words---whether they are bad and all. They're just words. My roommate
lived on the Caloosahatchie River. We joked that Caloosahatchie could just
have easily have been decided by the English-speaking-world to be the word
for "shit". Why did Shit get to be shit? So we started using Caloosahatchie
instead of shit. Or Caloo for short. We changed a lot of words that night,
but Caloo is the only one I remember.
We also talked about folks' reactions to words and how anger/meanness could
be the reason for most "definitions". Or maybe connotations.
Bitch is an everyday word here (I'm a dog show nut)---so my boys didn't know
it shouldn't be used in polite society. <G> "This is Soda Pop, our dog, and
Basia, our bitch."
There's no doubt that words are powerful. As someone said earlier---look what
just happened here.
And conference attendees will never forget "LOWING"! <G>
Someone's Granny can say something---or a two year old!---and we can't help
but snigger. What is it that makes the same wods coming out of an adult's
mouth NOT funny?
I DO love words---how they got here, where they're going. The word pregnant
was banned on TV for YEARS. Now we have gay Will trying to impregnate Grace.
Go figure! The evolution of words is fascinating.
Who KNOWS what will be the "four-letter" words 50-100 years from now. SO cool
to speculate. (and why ARE so many FOUR letters???)
~Kelly
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In a message dated 1/28/03 8:22:15 AM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:
<< (and why ARE so many FOUR letters???) >>
Saxon words are short. Latin words are long.
Saxon words work like little wooden blocks. You set them side by side to
make longer words, generally. Latin and French work more like
tinker-toys--you stick stuff onto either end and you can pick the whole thing
up.
Indescribable is not a Saxon word.
Bookend is. Neither "book" nor "end" was harmed in the creation or
disassembly of that word.
And neither had more than four letters.
I'm trying to think of some long Anglo-Saxon words.
Mother, brother, father, sister. Those are some of the longest.
Gold becomes golden.
There are forms of that for made-of-whatever words:
brass to brazen
wood to wooden
iron isn't ironen, but probably because it already ended like "-en"
The words just tend to be short.
I don't remember the statistics because I don't remember numbers, but
although English has the highest word count of any language anywhere, it's
because we keep terms from several different languages so we can shade our
meaning with different levels of formality or with connotation. And of that
big word count, most of the words are from Latin or French or Greek.
But if you analyze any piece of conversation or writing, most of the words
used are native Anglo-Saxon words. So the little words we use every day or
the connecting words and adjectives of a common day are probably native
English words.
It's hard to do it when you're writing or speaking yourself, but it's fun to
do with song lyrics. Doo-wop love songs, for instance. Or with kids'
nursery rhymes. It's possible sometimes to find something that has NO "big
words," and no recenh above.
(Pretend I put quotation marks around words-as-words; I'm not going to.)
lyrics and rhymes are from Greek.
Nursery is from French. So is possible and recently.
I think borrow is English but it might be French.
I think the rest are Old English.
Sandra
<< (and why ARE so many FOUR letters???) >>
Saxon words are short. Latin words are long.
Saxon words work like little wooden blocks. You set them side by side to
make longer words, generally. Latin and French work more like
tinker-toys--you stick stuff onto either end and you can pick the whole thing
up.
Indescribable is not a Saxon word.
Bookend is. Neither "book" nor "end" was harmed in the creation or
disassembly of that word.
And neither had more than four letters.
I'm trying to think of some long Anglo-Saxon words.
Mother, brother, father, sister. Those are some of the longest.
Gold becomes golden.
There are forms of that for made-of-whatever words:
brass to brazen
wood to wooden
iron isn't ironen, but probably because it already ended like "-en"
The words just tend to be short.
I don't remember the statistics because I don't remember numbers, but
although English has the highest word count of any language anywhere, it's
because we keep terms from several different languages so we can shade our
meaning with different levels of formality or with connotation. And of that
big word count, most of the words are from Latin or French or Greek.
But if you analyze any piece of conversation or writing, most of the words
used are native Anglo-Saxon words. So the little words we use every day or
the connecting words and adjectives of a common day are probably native
English words.
It's hard to do it when you're writing or speaking yourself, but it's fun to
do with song lyrics. Doo-wop love songs, for instance. Or with kids'
nursery rhymes. It's possible sometimes to find something that has NO "big
words," and no recenh above.
(Pretend I put quotation marks around words-as-words; I'm not going to.)
lyrics and rhymes are from Greek.
Nursery is from French. So is possible and recently.
I think borrow is English but it might be French.
I think the rest are Old English.
Sandra
Deborah Lewis
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:09:37 EST SandraDodd@... writes:
***Saxon words are short. Latin words are long.
Saxon words work like little wooden blocks. You set them side by side to
make longer words, generally. Latin and French work more like
tinker-toys--you stick stuff onto either end and you can pick the whole
thing
up.***
I loved this whole post. Thank you Sandra.
Deb L
***Saxon words are short. Latin words are long.
Saxon words work like little wooden blocks. You set them side by side to
make longer words, generally. Latin and French work more like
tinker-toys--you stick stuff onto either end and you can pick the whole
thing
up.***
I loved this whole post. Thank you Sandra.
Deb L
Robyn Coburn
The other day my dd (3 ¼) startled me when she rushed up to me and asked
me to scrub her asshole. I asked why, and she told me it had paint all
over it. She was referring to her easel. In the spirit of John Holt we
are refraining from correcting her pronunciation, and getting a good few
chuckles in the meantime. Last night I really like my asshole.
Robyn Coburn
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me to scrub her asshole. I asked why, and she told me it had paint all
over it. She was referring to her easel. In the spirit of John Holt we
are refraining from correcting her pronunciation, and getting a good few
chuckles in the meantime. Last night I really like my asshole.
Robyn Coburn
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Kelli Traaseth
Robyn! LMAO! Or is it my easel? <gg>
Kelli, getting a good laugh at 5 a.m.!
Robyn Coburn <dezigna@...> wrote:
The other day my dd (3 �) startled me when she rushed up to me and asked
me to �scrub her asshole�. I asked why, and she told me it had paint all
over it. She was referring to her easel. In the spirit of John Holt we
are refraining from correcting her pronunciation, and getting a good few
chuckles in the meantime. Last night � � I really like my asshole�.
Robyn Coburn
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Kelli, getting a good laugh at 5 a.m.!
Robyn Coburn <dezigna@...> wrote:
The other day my dd (3 �) startled me when she rushed up to me and asked
me to �scrub her asshole�. I asked why, and she told me it had paint all
over it. She was referring to her easel. In the spirit of John Holt we
are refraining from correcting her pronunciation, and getting a good few
chuckles in the meantime. Last night � � I really like my asshole�.
Robyn Coburn
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In a message dated 1/29/03 4:14:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dezigna@... writes:
one word)..Of course, we bought her a cute little stick horse.. She would
talk about how she loved her horsestick and she loved to ride and ride it.
Dh and I would crack up every time she referred to her beloved toy. We
would just always refer to it as her horsey or stick horse. She eventually
named it something, but she still often called it her horsestick
Teresa
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dezigna@... writes:
> She was referring to her easel.When Anna was about 3, she wanted a "horsestick" ( say it all together like
one word)..Of course, we bought her a cute little stick horse.. She would
talk about how she loved her horsestick and she loved to ride and ride it.
Dh and I would crack up every time she referred to her beloved toy. We
would just always refer to it as her horsey or stick horse. She eventually
named it something, but she still often called it her horsestick
Teresa
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DanickeHouse
ROFLOL! I hope you wrote that down in her baby book or a scrapbook or
journal or *something*! That is one you don't want to forget!
Liz
saremca@...
Age doesn't always bring wisdom, sometimes age comes alone.
journal or *something*! That is one you don't want to forget!
Liz
saremca@...
Age doesn't always bring wisdom, sometimes age comes alone.
----- Original Message -----
The other day my dd (3 ¼) startled me when she rushed up to me and asked me
to "scrub her asshole". I asked why, and she told me it had paint all
over it. She was referring to her easel. In the spirit of John Holt we are
refraining from correcting her pronunciation, and getting a good few
chuckles in the meantime. Last night - " I really like my asshole".