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In a message dated 1/27/03 4:43:05 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< We as a nation can bomb the heck out of women and children, but we can
neither hear, read, speak or write "fuck." >>
Amen to that!
And it seems the people that are most supportive of bombing other folks are
the ones most upset by cuss words.
I admit to cringing when I hear certain cuss words. I KNOW it's a societal
thing, I KNOW it's my upbringing, but it bugs me.
I don't punish my kids for using them, I don't act all hypersensitive, but it
does bug me.
Trevor told me yesterday that he loves to cuss around his friends cuz he
knows I don't like it much.
He'll say Ass and Damn and Hell here, but I always say "do you HAVE to use
those words in front of Sierra and Jalen?"
Anyhoo, if my sensibilities can handle a DISCUSSION of words (it's not like
anybody was getting cussed AT) I just don't see what the big deal is.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
"Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com
[email protected] writes:
<< We as a nation can bomb the heck out of women and children, but we can
neither hear, read, speak or write "fuck." >>
Amen to that!
And it seems the people that are most supportive of bombing other folks are
the ones most upset by cuss words.
I admit to cringing when I hear certain cuss words. I KNOW it's a societal
thing, I KNOW it's my upbringing, but it bugs me.
I don't punish my kids for using them, I don't act all hypersensitive, but it
does bug me.
Trevor told me yesterday that he loves to cuss around his friends cuz he
knows I don't like it much.
He'll say Ass and Damn and Hell here, but I always say "do you HAVE to use
those words in front of Sierra and Jalen?"
Anyhoo, if my sensibilities can handle a DISCUSSION of words (it's not like
anybody was getting cussed AT) I just don't see what the big deal is.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
"Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com
cindyjsowers <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], starsuncloud@c... wrote:
power of words! That really hits home how powerful is language.
It's really just so amazing what words do to us. It seems to me
that it is one thing if someone shouts a distasteful word at you.
In that case, the power behind the word is also that person's energy
propelling the word at you. Often just that alone will cause you to
react. I mean, if someone says f*** you, and means it, they usually
have a lot of energy and emotion packed into that and it hits you
hard. But here, on this e-mail list, we have simply been pointing
out words, in e-mail format, no less. No sound bites or anything.
Just a list of words. Where's the energy? Email is getting very
powerful, isn't it? In this case, with the cuss words, no one was
actually directing them at a single soul. Just pointing out words
that, if someone were new to this planet, or in this case, new to
this country, they might consider with care before directing at
anyone. I found it to be pretty much like a guide book -- "when in
America, do not say this" type thing. Not offensive in the least.
In a very real way, it's the same kind of recommendation we would
offer to a child -- "here are a list of words that are out there,
that you might consider carefully before using. In all likelihood
you would very much offend someone if you directed any one of them
at someone personally." Not actually commanding them not to say
something. Just pointing out what is. You can find pretty much all
of the words I saw listed here in an unabridged dictionary, can't
you? Or at least a dictionary that includes American slang.
There's no emotion packed behind them. Why would someone react so
strongly to a written word that is simply within a whole list of
words? That, I find very curious. If language is such that it can
cause people to get all in a hullaballoo, there is power! Imagine
what you can do with your words! You can write stuff down and
really affect people. Even in just a list form, it appears. It
occurs to me that email has become as real as saying something to
someone in person. Maybe even more so, if people can get so
aggitated by words not even spoken aloud. They are imagining the
words out loud! THAT is powerful. Wow!
Anyway, this particular thread, for the above reasons, was rather
enlightening for me. I feel I got a little bit of learning there.
Rather than condemn the folks who brought it forth, I'd like to say
thanks. That was cool.
Cindy
> In a message dated 1/27/03 4:43:05 PM Central Standard Time,not like
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Anyhoo, if my sensibilities can handle a DISCUSSION of words (it's
> anybody was getting cussed AT) I just don't see what the big dealis.
>I find this whole line of discussion so very fascinating. Wow, the
> Ren
power of words! That really hits home how powerful is language.
It's really just so amazing what words do to us. It seems to me
that it is one thing if someone shouts a distasteful word at you.
In that case, the power behind the word is also that person's energy
propelling the word at you. Often just that alone will cause you to
react. I mean, if someone says f*** you, and means it, they usually
have a lot of energy and emotion packed into that and it hits you
hard. But here, on this e-mail list, we have simply been pointing
out words, in e-mail format, no less. No sound bites or anything.
Just a list of words. Where's the energy? Email is getting very
powerful, isn't it? In this case, with the cuss words, no one was
actually directing them at a single soul. Just pointing out words
that, if someone were new to this planet, or in this case, new to
this country, they might consider with care before directing at
anyone. I found it to be pretty much like a guide book -- "when in
America, do not say this" type thing. Not offensive in the least.
In a very real way, it's the same kind of recommendation we would
offer to a child -- "here are a list of words that are out there,
that you might consider carefully before using. In all likelihood
you would very much offend someone if you directed any one of them
at someone personally." Not actually commanding them not to say
something. Just pointing out what is. You can find pretty much all
of the words I saw listed here in an unabridged dictionary, can't
you? Or at least a dictionary that includes American slang.
There's no emotion packed behind them. Why would someone react so
strongly to a written word that is simply within a whole list of
words? That, I find very curious. If language is such that it can
cause people to get all in a hullaballoo, there is power! Imagine
what you can do with your words! You can write stuff down and
really affect people. Even in just a list form, it appears. It
occurs to me that email has become as real as saying something to
someone in person. Maybe even more so, if people can get so
aggitated by words not even spoken aloud. They are imagining the
words out loud! THAT is powerful. Wow!
Anyway, this particular thread, for the above reasons, was rather
enlightening for me. I feel I got a little bit of learning there.
Rather than condemn the folks who brought it forth, I'd like to say
thanks. That was cool.
Cindy
Angela
When my sweet Grammy was alive, she would play poker every Wednesday night
with her sisters and cronies. I would sometimes go over as a young teen to
keep their drinks full. (cheap coffee brandy or wine) One of my great
aunts, in her 90's now, once said when she had to go pee, "I have to go
water my horse!" I remember hearing it that first time and wondering what
the heck she was talking about. Then they got talking about cancer and all
the things that you can get cancer from. My lovely grammy, who I never even
heard cuss before said, "Pretty soon you won't even be able to powder your
p*ssy without getting cancer." I almost died laughing right there. It was
a side of my Grammy that I am glad I got a peak at before she died.
Angela in Maine
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with her sisters and cronies. I would sometimes go over as a young teen to
keep their drinks full. (cheap coffee brandy or wine) One of my great
aunts, in her 90's now, once said when she had to go pee, "I have to go
water my horse!" I remember hearing it that first time and wondering what
the heck she was talking about. Then they got talking about cancer and all
the things that you can get cancer from. My lovely grammy, who I never even
heard cuss before said, "Pretty soon you won't even be able to powder your
p*ssy without getting cancer." I almost died laughing right there. It was
a side of my Grammy that I am glad I got a peak at before she died.
Angela in Maine
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Mary Bianco
>From: "Angela" <unschooling@...><<My lovely grammy, who I never even heard cuss before said, "Pretty soon
you won't even be able to powder your p*ssy without getting cancer." I
almost died laughing right there. It was a side of my Grammy that I am glad
I got a peak at before she died.>>
LOL!!! That's too funny. I think that's one of the funniest things. When
someone older and unexpected or really too young to understand comes out
with a word like that.
Mary B
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 11:37:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mummyone24@... writes:> LOL!!! That's too funny. I think that's one of
idea what it was about; I was just the taxi-driver. Betty White just about
FLOORED me---the Mouth on that woman. YIKES! Talk about unprepared! <G>
~Kelly
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mummyone24@... writes:> LOL!!! That's too funny. I think that's one of
> the funniest things. WhenCameron and some friends dragged me to see the movie, Lake Placid. I had no
> someone older and unexpected or really too young to understand comes out
> with a word like that.
idea what it was about; I was just the taxi-driver. Betty White just about
FLOORED me---the Mouth on that woman. YIKES! Talk about unprepared! <G>
~Kelly
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[email protected]
In a message dated 1/27/2003 11:37:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mummyone24@... writes:
horrible childhood used swear words just like every day words as if THAT WAS
THE WORD that everyone else used and if they looked at her funny it was THEIR
problem. She didn't use the "really bad" F one as she called it, but others
came spilling out of her mouth and for some reason it didn't even seem in an
ugly way, they were only words to her and not meant to be distasteful or
mean. She was 89 when she died three years ago and she did get some looks in
the store or doctors office or even the hospital when she had "normal" (to
her) conversation.
Of course my mother the "saint" who would go balistic if we said "butt" has
quite the mouth on her but it's in a mean nasty type of way and not at all
cute... but she's like that in every aspect of life, mean nasty, so I guess
it's got something to do with more than just the actual WORD?
glena
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mummyone24@... writes:
> My lovely grammy, who I never even heard cuss before said, "Pretty soonThat is funny, thanks for sharing. My Grammy who was the light of my
> you won't even be able to powder your p*ssy without getting cancer." I
> almost died laughing right there. It was a side of my Grammy that I am
> glad
> I got a peak at before she died.>>
>
horrible childhood used swear words just like every day words as if THAT WAS
THE WORD that everyone else used and if they looked at her funny it was THEIR
problem. She didn't use the "really bad" F one as she called it, but others
came spilling out of her mouth and for some reason it didn't even seem in an
ugly way, they were only words to her and not meant to be distasteful or
mean. She was 89 when she died three years ago and she did get some looks in
the store or doctors office or even the hospital when she had "normal" (to
her) conversation.
Of course my mother the "saint" who would go balistic if we said "butt" has
quite the mouth on her but it's in a mean nasty type of way and not at all
cute... but she's like that in every aspect of life, mean nasty, so I guess
it's got something to do with more than just the actual WORD?
glena
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