Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 2866
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In a message dated 1/14/2003 10:49:13 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
I'm using that correctly> affect eating habits when they pertain to "junk
food."
I've been watching my two daughters with their large stockpile of
Christmas candy....15 year old has behaved in her usual fashion re:
Halloween, Easter, etc. She has eaten a few pieces on Christmas Day, and
then will occasionally nibble one or two pieces every other day. Much of it
is already looking old and weary. <g> If she follows her usual pattern, the
majority of it will be stuffed in a plastic bag and left to grow stale for a
year, till it gets pitched in the trash....
Younger daughter (the one who's always craved sweets; she used to walk
around sucking on the plastic Honey Bear jar when a toddler!) dove into candy
as if it were manna from heaven (despite never having any restrictions on
food choices around here, in our daily lives), had consumed easily HALF of
it in an orgy of sugar consumption within the first day, and ALL of it within
about four days.....she's moved on to other sweet pastures, already.
Her father eats sweets in the same fashion. He's hypoglycemic, and
binges on occasion, when his blood sugar levels wrest control of his mind. <g>
Younger daughter exhibits the same reckless tendencies, often eating herself
into a manic high, or even--when she was smaller--THROWING UP from excess
chocolate intake.
This despite *precisely* the same food lifestyle, freedom of choice, and
nutritional offerings in the same household. One daughter's physical make up
gives her a "problem" with sugar; the other does not.
I don't think one can attribute food behaviors ALL to child-rearing
practices. People clearly have different physical relationships with food,
too....My sister always has been able to subsist happily on a breakfast of
breadstuffs and caffeine (rolls and coffee, biscuits and tea, etc.). I, on
the other hand, go into a complete nutritional nosedive unless I ingest
PROTEIN asap in the morning: headaches, the "shakes", etc.. Now, when I
visit her, I make sure to bring some cheese sticks or hardboiled eggs to
supplement her breakfast offerings, as she still forgets our differing
nutritional needs sometimes.....I can understand that. It's easy to mistake
one's OWN experience for that of others, too. "If a croissant and grapefruit
keep her perkin' till lunchtime," why wouldn't it do the same for me? ;-D
Becky in Iowa
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are
to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt
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[email protected] writes:
>It's interesting to note, too, how individual physiologies <hmmm....not sure
> >Thanks for your great thoughts.... Wondering if we dare keep
> >M&Ms handy for snacking...
I'm using that correctly> affect eating habits when they pertain to "junk
food."
I've been watching my two daughters with their large stockpile of
Christmas candy....15 year old has behaved in her usual fashion re:
Halloween, Easter, etc. She has eaten a few pieces on Christmas Day, and
then will occasionally nibble one or two pieces every other day. Much of it
is already looking old and weary. <g> If she follows her usual pattern, the
majority of it will be stuffed in a plastic bag and left to grow stale for a
year, till it gets pitched in the trash....
Younger daughter (the one who's always craved sweets; she used to walk
around sucking on the plastic Honey Bear jar when a toddler!) dove into candy
as if it were manna from heaven (despite never having any restrictions on
food choices around here, in our daily lives), had consumed easily HALF of
it in an orgy of sugar consumption within the first day, and ALL of it within
about four days.....she's moved on to other sweet pastures, already.
Her father eats sweets in the same fashion. He's hypoglycemic, and
binges on occasion, when his blood sugar levels wrest control of his mind. <g>
Younger daughter exhibits the same reckless tendencies, often eating herself
into a manic high, or even--when she was smaller--THROWING UP from excess
chocolate intake.
This despite *precisely* the same food lifestyle, freedom of choice, and
nutritional offerings in the same household. One daughter's physical make up
gives her a "problem" with sugar; the other does not.
I don't think one can attribute food behaviors ALL to child-rearing
practices. People clearly have different physical relationships with food,
too....My sister always has been able to subsist happily on a breakfast of
breadstuffs and caffeine (rolls and coffee, biscuits and tea, etc.). I, on
the other hand, go into a complete nutritional nosedive unless I ingest
PROTEIN asap in the morning: headaches, the "shakes", etc.. Now, when I
visit her, I make sure to bring some cheese sticks or hardboiled eggs to
supplement her breakfast offerings, as she still forgets our differing
nutritional needs sometimes.....I can understand that. It's easy to mistake
one's OWN experience for that of others, too. "If a croissant and grapefruit
keep her perkin' till lunchtime," why wouldn't it do the same for me? ;-D
Becky in Iowa
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are
to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt
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[email protected]
In a message dated 1/14/2003 10:49:13 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
(Cokes, candy) partly for nutritional reasons, but partly because we couldn't
afford them. Although she made dessert or cookies a couple times a week,
there were plenty of days when NO traditional "goodies" lay around the house.
Since I always preferred cheddar cheese or dill pickles or peanuts to candy
or Ding Dongs, anyway, this never bothered me....
Dh's mother always had candy and sweets about. Dh bought popsicles at
school *with all his lunch money* (appalling for me to consider, who loved
her cafeteria food! ;-) He had easy and open access to candy and refined
sugar products all his childhood.
So, who is the person with the sugar cravings? Dh. I can easily live
weeks without chocolate, doughnuts, etc. ....If he didn't buy them, I bet
they'd rarely come into the house. On the other hand, I need the occasional
"chip" or "cheese spread and crackers" perk, or I feel positively sad and
deprived.
Dh wonders if his physical addiction to sugary foods has something to do
with his mother's gestational diabetes, and his high birth
weight.....there've been some studies corrolating this. I'm beginning to
wonder, myself. Although I didn't have any detectable diabetes with second
daughter, she was several weeks "late" (as was my husband) and weighed close
to ten pounds at birth! She was the BIGGEST baby in our small hospital the
entire month of December, in fact.
Becky
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are
to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt
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[email protected] writes:
> Ben and I were both members of the "clean plate club". Both our mothersThis is interesting. My mother tended to skimp on "store-bought" treats
> STILL
> force feed children. (AND withhold food!) So do Ben's siblings. Horribly.
>
> My father, my brother, Ben, and Cameron have no "sweet teeth". My mother,
> Duncan and I DO! Nature? Nurture? ???
(Cokes, candy) partly for nutritional reasons, but partly because we couldn't
afford them. Although she made dessert or cookies a couple times a week,
there were plenty of days when NO traditional "goodies" lay around the house.
Since I always preferred cheddar cheese or dill pickles or peanuts to candy
or Ding Dongs, anyway, this never bothered me....
Dh's mother always had candy and sweets about. Dh bought popsicles at
school *with all his lunch money* (appalling for me to consider, who loved
her cafeteria food! ;-) He had easy and open access to candy and refined
sugar products all his childhood.
So, who is the person with the sugar cravings? Dh. I can easily live
weeks without chocolate, doughnuts, etc. ....If he didn't buy them, I bet
they'd rarely come into the house. On the other hand, I need the occasional
"chip" or "cheese spread and crackers" perk, or I feel positively sad and
deprived.
Dh wonders if his physical addiction to sugary foods has something to do
with his mother's gestational diabetes, and his high birth
weight.....there've been some studies corrolating this. I'm beginning to
wonder, myself. Although I didn't have any detectable diabetes with second
daughter, she was several weeks "late" (as was my husband) and weighed close
to ten pounds at birth! She was the BIGGEST baby in our small hospital the
entire month of December, in fact.
Becky
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are
to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
--Theodore Roosevelt
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Julie Bogart <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], Beckyleach@a...
wrote:
My mother tended to skimp on "store-bought" treats
(snip)
He had easy and open access to candy and refined
has probably dealt with hypoglycemia for years. He is finally
feeling ordinary as an eater now that he's been diagnosed and
treated. I've noticed him lose some weight and he just doesn't
exhibit the sugar cravings he once had.
Taking a person's healt into consideration and using their habits
as clues is always a good idea, I think.
Julie B
wrote:
My mother tended to skimp on "store-bought" treats
> (Cokes, candy) partly for nutritional reasons, but partly becausewe couldn't
> afford them. Although she made dessert or cookies a coupletimes a week,
> there were plenty of days when NO traditional "goodies" layaround the house.
> Since I always preferred cheddar cheese or dill pickles orpeanuts to candy
> or Ding Dongs, anyway, this never bothered me....Same here.
(snip)
He had easy and open access to candy and refined
> sugar products all his childhood.I could have written this. Same for my dh and I.
>
> So, who is the person with the sugar cravings? Dh.
> Dh wonders if his physical addiction to sugary foods hassomething to do
> with his mother's gestational diabetes, and his high birthbeginning to
> weight.....there've been some studies corrolating this. I'm
> wonder, myself.In our case, it turns out my dh *has* diabetes (adult onset) and
has probably dealt with hypoglycemia for years. He is finally
feeling ordinary as an eater now that he's been diagnosed and
treated. I've noticed him lose some weight and he just doesn't
exhibit the sugar cravings he once had.
Taking a person's healt into consideration and using their habits
as clues is always a good idea, I think.
Julie B
Jim Selvage
You know all this talk about junk food has sent me into a binge. I have
ingested two doughnuts, a bowl of ice cream and a bag of doritos (just a
small bag, lol). My husband cooked pork chops and potatoes, but I chose the
doughnuts and ice cream. I hope this "de-schooling" food doesn't last
forever!
many blesings,
erin
ingested two doughnuts, a bowl of ice cream and a bag of doritos (just a
small bag, lol). My husband cooked pork chops and potatoes, but I chose the
doughnuts and ice cream. I hope this "de-schooling" food doesn't last
forever!
many blesings,
erin
> My mother tended to skimp on "store-bought" treats
> > (Cokes, candy) partly for nutritional reasons, but partly because
> we couldn't
> > afford them. Although she made dessert or cookies a couple
> times a week,
> > there were plenty of days when NO traditional "goodies" lay
> around the house.
> > Since I always preferred cheddar cheese or dill pickles or
> peanuts to candy
> > or Ding Dongs, anyway, this never bothered me....
>
> Same here.
> (snip)
> He had easy and open access to candy and refined
> > sugar products all his childhood.
> >
> > So, who is the person with the sugar cravings? Dh.
>
> I could have written this. Same for my dh and I.
>
> > Dh wonders if his physical addiction to sugary foods has
> something to do
> > with his mother's gestational diabetes, and his high birth
> > weight.....there've been some studies corrolating this. I'm
> beginning to
> > wonder, myself.
>
> In our case, it turns out my dh *has* diabetes (adult onset) and
> has probably dealt with hypoglycemia for years. He is finally
> feeling ordinary as an eater now that he's been diagnosed and
> treated. I've noticed him lose some weight and he just doesn't
> exhibit the sugar cravings he once had.
>
> Taking a person's healt into consideration and using their habits
> as clues is always a good idea, I think.
>
> Julie B
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In a message dated 1/14/03 5:42:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jselvage@... writes:
Pam G.
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jselvage@... writes:
> You know all this talk about junk food has sent me into a binge. I haveI know I have been craving M&Ms since this morning. LOL
> ingested two doughnuts, a bowl of ice cream and a bag of doritos (just a
> small bag, lol). My husband cooked pork chops and potatoes, but I chose
> the
> doughnuts and ice cream. I hope this "de-schooling" food doesn't last
> forever!
>
>
Pam G.
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