College
::she just is::
I agree that you don't have to go to college to get a life. College can help
you meet interesting people, though (and get you those yummy credits, hehe).
I plan on taking a philosophy course in a community college, which should be
pretty cool. Also I'd probably have to go to college if I want to do
something in the physics/astronomy range of the sciences. I don't plan on
going to college anytime soon, though. I want to travel around the world and
do my own thing :) ~Eryn
==
"I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky;
then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of
being a butterfuly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am
a man?" - Chuang Tsu
http://www.camenaworks.com/Eryn/
#24591173 ::she just is::
AIM :: Opal Fayre
you meet interesting people, though (and get you those yummy credits, hehe).
I plan on taking a philosophy course in a community college, which should be
pretty cool. Also I'd probably have to go to college if I want to do
something in the physics/astronomy range of the sciences. I don't plan on
going to college anytime soon, though. I want to travel around the world and
do my own thing :) ~Eryn
==
"I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky;
then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of
being a butterfuly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am
a man?" - Chuang Tsu
http://www.camenaworks.com/Eryn/
#24591173 ::she just is::
AIM :: Opal Fayre
Monica L. Molinar
I may have missed it, but regarding college... What
about online courses?? There are many
colleges and universities now offering online
courses, either individually, or as part of a
degree program. Thus far, I haven't found any that
offer a *complete* degree program
online... they all require at least *some* campus
attendance, though not necessarily at the
same college or university. As a resource, try Lone
Eagle Consulting's website:
http://www.lone-eagles.com and look for Making the
Best Use of Internet for K-12 Education, a
free, online handbook featuring many, many links in
lots of areas which we have found useful.
If you need additional sources, just ask. ;-)
Hope this helps,
Monica
about online courses?? There are many
colleges and universities now offering online
courses, either individually, or as part of a
degree program. Thus far, I haven't found any that
offer a *complete* degree program
online... they all require at least *some* campus
attendance, though not necessarily at the
same college or university. As a resource, try Lone
Eagle Consulting's website:
http://www.lone-eagles.com and look for Making the
Best Use of Internet for K-12 Education, a
free, online handbook featuring many, many links in
lots of areas which we have found useful.
If you need additional sources, just ask. ;-)
Hope this helps,
Monica
[email protected]
> My wife would love to go to hone her wheel-pottering skills.Todd,
Find a Ceramic's Monthly Magazine and look for workshops in the Classifieds.
She could also call a local pottery shop (a supplier not a potter) and see if
she can find someone who would work with her.
I've helped a lot of potential potters on their way.
Beth
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Anne Blaine
I am new to homeschooling and I am looking into unschooling. What do unschoolers do for transcripts for colleges? I thought colleges wanted you to have 4 years of Math and 4 years of English, etc. How is this accomplished through unschooling? Please help me to understand.
Thank you!
Anne
Thank you!
Anne
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From: Julie Stauffer
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 3002
<<books are the last thing on his list of "fun" stuff.>>
But can't that be ok? My almost 10yo son has no interest in books, but his
mechanical understanding and hand eye coordination are phenomenal. He just
built me a dolly and put together a peddle car for his younger siblings. If
you need to hook up a horse trailer to your van, Zach is the man to get your
lined out. He is pretty darn good at shooting skeet, playing baseball,
basketball and PS2. All things that are more helpful to the family right
now than loving to read would be. And more fun to Zach.
Julie
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Vicki A. Dennis
Even if you want to have a traditional transcript (perhaps even from a traditional school?), one could "get" 4 years of English, 4 years of Math, etc in the time period after age 13 or 14 and complete it in plenty of time to pack off to a traditional college.
Of course, "my" feeling is that instead of 4 "years", one might complete 4 courses in less time. Plenty of time to think of that once child is past age 10 or 12.
vicki
Of course, "my" feeling is that instead of 4 "years", one might complete 4 courses in less time. Plenty of time to think of that once child is past age 10 or 12.
vicki
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From: Anne Blaine
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] College
I am new to homeschooling and I am looking into unschooling. What do unschoolers do for transcripts for colleges? I thought colleges wanted you to have 4 years of Math and 4 years of English, etc. How is this accomplished through unschooling? Please help me to understand.
Thank you!
Anne
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Stauffer
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 3002
<<books are the last thing on his list of "fun" stuff.>>
But can't that be ok? My almost 10yo son has no interest in books, but his
mechanical understanding and hand eye coordination are phenomenal. He just
built me a dolly and put together a peddle car for his younger siblings. If
you need to hook up a horse trailer to your van, Zach is the man to get your
lined out. He is pretty darn good at shooting skeet, playing baseball,
basketball and PS2. All things that are more helpful to the family right
now than loving to read would be. And more fun to Zach.
Julie
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Blaine
Unfortunately my oldest is 14 and would be in 9th grade so I need to figure out how to accomplish what is needed starting now.
Anne
Anne
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From: Vicki A. Dennis
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] College
Even if you want to have a traditional transcript (perhaps even from a traditional school?), one could "get" 4 years of English, 4 years of Math, etc in the time period after age 13 or 14 and complete it in plenty of time to pack off to a traditional college.
Of course, "my" feeling is that instead of 4 "years", one might complete 4 courses in less time. Plenty of time to think of that once child is past age 10 or 12.
vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: Anne Blaine
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] College
I am new to homeschooling and I am looking into unschooling. What do unschoolers do for transcripts for colleges? I thought colleges wanted you to have 4 years of Math and 4 years of English, etc. How is this accomplished through unschooling? Please help me to understand.
Thank you!
Anne
----- Original Message -----
From: Julie Stauffer
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 3002
<<books are the last thing on his list of "fun" stuff.>>
But can't that be ok? My almost 10yo son has no interest in books, but his
mechanical understanding and hand eye coordination are phenomenal. He just
built me a dolly and put together a peddle car for his younger siblings. If
you need to hook up a horse trailer to your van, Zach is the man to get your
lined out. He is pretty darn good at shooting skeet, playing baseball,
basketball and PS2. All things that are more helpful to the family right
now than loving to read would be. And more fun to Zach.
Julie
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In a message dated 2/6/03 12:18:36 PM, adblaine@... writes:
<< I am new to homeschooling and I am looking into unschooling. What do
unschoolers do for transcripts for colleges? I thought colleges wanted you
to have 4 years of Math and 4 years of English, etc. How is this
accomplished through unschooling? Please help me to understand. >>
Cafi Cohen's site has good answers on that:
http://www.homeschoolteenscollege.net/seminars.htm
College want people to finish high school, generally speaking.
We've left the "general speaking" track entirely to unschool. Unschoolers
don't end up with high school credits.
Sandra
<< I am new to homeschooling and I am looking into unschooling. What do
unschoolers do for transcripts for colleges? I thought colleges wanted you
to have 4 years of Math and 4 years of English, etc. How is this
accomplished through unschooling? Please help me to understand. >>
Cafi Cohen's site has good answers on that:
http://www.homeschoolteenscollege.net/seminars.htm
College want people to finish high school, generally speaking.
We've left the "general speaking" track entirely to unschool. Unschoolers
don't end up with high school credits.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 2/6/03 12:51:30 PM, adblaine@... writes:
<< Unfortunately my oldest is 14 and would be in 9th grade so I need to
figure out how to accomplish what is needed starting now. >>
If our thoughts are accomplishments and credits primarily, you should maybe
buy into American School or some correspondence thing that gives credits.
If you look at what Cafi Cohen has written about transcripts and maybe look
at one of her books, you might think of ways to work that into your life.
Unschooling has to do with natural learning unfolding at a child's own pace.
There are no four year plans with math credits guaranteeing college-ready
transcripts. Sorry.
Sandra
<< Unfortunately my oldest is 14 and would be in 9th grade so I need to
figure out how to accomplish what is needed starting now. >>
If our thoughts are accomplishments and credits primarily, you should maybe
buy into American School or some correspondence thing that gives credits.
If you look at what Cafi Cohen has written about transcripts and maybe look
at one of her books, you might think of ways to work that into your life.
Unschooling has to do with natural learning unfolding at a child's own pace.
There are no four year plans with math credits guaranteeing college-ready
transcripts. Sorry.
Sandra
[email protected]
A look at how one always unschooled family took on the transcript problem
almost literally at the last minute can be found in:
From Homeschool to College and Work
by Allison McKee
almost literally at the last minute can be found in:
From Homeschool to College and Work
by Allison McKee
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/7/03 9:51:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
premed is what she wants and it will be soon? If she is there now then she
will learn that there are certain requirements for college, she will research
different colleges to see what requirements are different for each college.
And if she has her heart set on one certain college she will either see if
there is a way around that requirement or she will learn enough algebra to
pass the entrance exam.
I just went through this with my best friend, she wants to go to a certain
college for her nursing degree and had to take an entrance exam with Algebra.
She shuddered at the thought of math but was determined to do it. So I
helped her learn. We looked for a basic algebra book and I helped her get
through enough to pass the exam. The other option for her was to take a
basic algebra class offered at the college.
To satisfy your DH maybe you could try to translate what she does during the
day into "school language". That way he would feel better about your
efforts.
Just a couple of thoughts.
Pam G.
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rubyprincesstsg@... writes:
> I think I probably am, except maybe in math which she seems to lack muchI'm sorry I guess I missed how old your child is. Is she at a point that
> interest in so I don't bring it up. We've studied latin together, we've
> studied so much together actually BUT you HAVE to be strong in math to get
> in
> a premed program, you just have too.
>
>
premed is what she wants and it will be soon? If she is there now then she
will learn that there are certain requirements for college, she will research
different colleges to see what requirements are different for each college.
And if she has her heart set on one certain college she will either see if
there is a way around that requirement or she will learn enough algebra to
pass the entrance exam.
I just went through this with my best friend, she wants to go to a certain
college for her nursing degree and had to take an entrance exam with Algebra.
She shuddered at the thought of math but was determined to do it. So I
helped her learn. We looked for a basic algebra book and I helped her get
through enough to pass the exam. The other option for her was to take a
basic algebra class offered at the college.
To satisfy your DH maybe you could try to translate what she does during the
day into "school language". That way he would feel better about your
efforts.
Just a couple of thoughts.
Pam G.
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Pamela Sorooshian
On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 09:17 AM, genant2@... wrote:
-pam
>> BUT you HAVE to be strong in math to getNot at 14.
>> in
>> a premed program, you just have too.
-pam
Sorcha
* studied so much together actually BUT you HAVE to be strong in
math to get
"prelaw". Students major in whatever they want to major in as an
undergrad. At my college (Ohio State) there was no premed or prelaw
program. There was also no undergrad education major. They want their
students to be well-rounded, not spend their undergrad years just
preparing for their chosen graduate program. I know a man who actually
majored in Golf so that his grades would be high enough to get into
medical school and he'd enjoy his undergrad years. He did get into
medical school and is now a doctor, and is very glad he majored in Golf.
:-)
Sorcha
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math to get
> inActually, at many colleges, there is no such major as "premed" or
> a premed program, you just have too.
>
"prelaw". Students major in whatever they want to major in as an
undergrad. At my college (Ohio State) there was no premed or prelaw
program. There was also no undergrad education major. They want their
students to be well-rounded, not spend their undergrad years just
preparing for their chosen graduate program. I know a man who actually
majored in Golf so that his grades would be high enough to get into
medical school and he'd enjoy his undergrad years. He did get into
medical school and is now a doctor, and is very glad he majored in Golf.
:-)
Sorcha
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/7/03 12:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sorcha-aisling@... writes:
degree. You just need a 4 year degree. It isn't called a "premed" major.
Pam G.
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sorcha-aisling@... writes:
> , there is no such major as "premed" orCorrect. My husband majored in Microbiology, I believe, for his premedical
> "prelaw".
degree. You just need a 4 year degree. It isn't called a "premed" major.
Pam G.
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Have a Nice Day!
Interesting you mention this. I was going to say that, but couldn't actually remember for sure.
I don't think it matters WHAT you major in. If you take the MCATS and you pass, you are eligible for med school.
I hears someone else say this before too...that they had majored in something totally not health care, and they took the MCATS.
Kristen
I don't think it matters WHAT you major in. If you take the MCATS and you pass, you are eligible for med school.
I hears someone else say this before too...that they had majored in something totally not health care, and they took the MCATS.
Kristen
----- Original Message -----
From: Sorcha
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] College
* studied so much together actually BUT you HAVE to be strong in
math to get
> in
> a premed program, you just have too.
>
Actually, at many colleges, there is no such major as "premed" or
"prelaw". Students major in whatever they want to major in as an
undergrad. At my college (Ohio State) there was no premed or prelaw
program. There was also no undergrad education major. They want their
students to be well-rounded, not spend their undergrad years just
preparing for their chosen graduate program. I know a man who actually
majored in Golf so that his grades would be high enough to get into
medical school and he'd enjoy his undergrad years. He did get into
medical school and is now a doctor, and is very glad he majored in Golf.
:-)
Sorcha
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In a message dated 4/7/2003 12:50:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sorcha-aisling@... writes:
for getting into medical school. Well I know there are, I've seen lists that
Cait has produced and printed and showed me from different schools.
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sorcha-aisling@... writes:
> I know a man who actuallySounds great, Cait loves to golf but I'm sure there are prerequisite courses
> majored in Golf so that his grades would be high enough to get into
> medical school and he'd enjoy his undergrad years. He did get into
> medical school and is now a doctor, and is very glad he majored in Golf.
>
for getting into medical school. Well I know there are, I've seen lists that
Cait has produced and printed and showed me from different schools.
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In a message dated 11/25/2004 4:39:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
Maybe, if you are wealthy enough to afford hanging out at college for years.
There are certainly other ways to figure out what you like or don't.
******************************
I went to a cool, hippy college where everyone designs their own course of
learning (Hampshire College in western MA). It was one of the things that led
me to unschooling.
I went there from a traditional high school without a lot of choices, and I
loved it. I loved being in an environment where almost all of the other
students were also excited about learning. Lots of other students there at the time
had been homeschooled or went to alternative schools. I loved it, and it
changed my life.
Peter Kawolke went to Hampshire for a year and dropped out. He told me that
his experience was more frustrated-- that he thought his fellow students
DIDN'T get learning for its own sake, etc. He thought he could do the kinds of
stuff he was doing at Hampshire (which he liked well enough) cheaper on his own.
My son Julian is 15 and has been unschooled most of his life. He's thinking
about different options for the next few years, including possibly college.
One option is just to work very hard on his music and focus on that. Another is
a music conservatory. And he told me the other day that if he DOES decide on
a traditiona college, he wants something competitive, probably Harvard.
The reason for Harvard is that he had a very positive experience taking a
Harvard Extension college course, and he figures that while many less
competitive college have professors as great as the one he had, that Harvard's money
and prestige (and the student ratings of professors) make it likely that he
could find excellent professors.
So there's quite a range: working on the Grunge band to entering Harvard.
He already knows himself pretty well, even if he's not sure what he's going
to want to DO yet.
Kathryn
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[email protected] writes:
>>>Part of the reason for going to college is to figure out what youlike, and what you don't.>>>>>
Maybe, if you are wealthy enough to afford hanging out at college for years.
There are certainly other ways to figure out what you like or don't.
******************************
I went to a cool, hippy college where everyone designs their own course of
learning (Hampshire College in western MA). It was one of the things that led
me to unschooling.
I went there from a traditional high school without a lot of choices, and I
loved it. I loved being in an environment where almost all of the other
students were also excited about learning. Lots of other students there at the time
had been homeschooled or went to alternative schools. I loved it, and it
changed my life.
Peter Kawolke went to Hampshire for a year and dropped out. He told me that
his experience was more frustrated-- that he thought his fellow students
DIDN'T get learning for its own sake, etc. He thought he could do the kinds of
stuff he was doing at Hampshire (which he liked well enough) cheaper on his own.
My son Julian is 15 and has been unschooled most of his life. He's thinking
about different options for the next few years, including possibly college.
One option is just to work very hard on his music and focus on that. Another is
a music conservatory. And he told me the other day that if he DOES decide on
a traditiona college, he wants something competitive, probably Harvard.
The reason for Harvard is that he had a very positive experience taking a
Harvard Extension college course, and he figures that while many less
competitive college have professors as great as the one he had, that Harvard's money
and prestige (and the student ratings of professors) make it likely that he
could find excellent professors.
So there's quite a range: working on the Grunge band to entering Harvard.
He already knows himself pretty well, even if he's not sure what he's going
to want to DO yet.
Kathryn
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