More dentists...
Robin Bentley
I wonder if folks have any suggestions for me and my 7 yo. facing a lot of dental work.
To make a long story short, we have now been to 4 dentists in her short life, two of them in which fillings and an extraction were done (with varying degrees of understanding and empathy, but plenty of coercion) and now my daughter is facing at least 7 fillings in her baby teeth. Her current dentist (empathetic, goes slow, will not force anything if the child does not want it) suggested we go to a pediatric specialist to have the work done under anaesthetic, so as not to traumatize her with more needles etc. She wants to then build up her trust bit by bit, so she can just clean her teeth (Michelle is sensitive to noise, is frightened of anything that sounds like a drill and is loathe to have anyone touch her mouth most of the time, including me.) I have always been reluctant to force her tooth brushing and flossing (she won't do the flossing and only occasionally will let me do it for her), but the consequences are beginning to show. She seems unaffected by any logical arguments I can come up with, nor complaints about her bad breath (she just breathes harder in my face LOL.)
I am a little worried that the appointment to do this will be traumatic enough, because it's another new face and another new procedure. I can give her plenty of information beforehand (which she likes to hear to help her prepare) and in the past, she'd say she's ready, but we'd get there and she'd be terrified. I'm afraid we'll end up not getting this done and have more rotten teeth to pull, though.
Has anyone faced this and how did you handle it? I'm trying to find a way that will respect her, yet deal with the health issue. I know *I* have issues about dentists myself - I was slapped across the face by my dentist from 3 yo. on if I cried about getting a needle. My mother was horrified when she heard this - she wasn't allowed in the room in those days. Of course, I thought it was my fault and didn't realize until, oh, in my 30's, that it was not.
Anyway, I keep putting it off and I think I need some wise advice.
TIA,
Robin B.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
To make a long story short, we have now been to 4 dentists in her short life, two of them in which fillings and an extraction were done (with varying degrees of understanding and empathy, but plenty of coercion) and now my daughter is facing at least 7 fillings in her baby teeth. Her current dentist (empathetic, goes slow, will not force anything if the child does not want it) suggested we go to a pediatric specialist to have the work done under anaesthetic, so as not to traumatize her with more needles etc. She wants to then build up her trust bit by bit, so she can just clean her teeth (Michelle is sensitive to noise, is frightened of anything that sounds like a drill and is loathe to have anyone touch her mouth most of the time, including me.) I have always been reluctant to force her tooth brushing and flossing (she won't do the flossing and only occasionally will let me do it for her), but the consequences are beginning to show. She seems unaffected by any logical arguments I can come up with, nor complaints about her bad breath (she just breathes harder in my face LOL.)
I am a little worried that the appointment to do this will be traumatic enough, because it's another new face and another new procedure. I can give her plenty of information beforehand (which she likes to hear to help her prepare) and in the past, she'd say she's ready, but we'd get there and she'd be terrified. I'm afraid we'll end up not getting this done and have more rotten teeth to pull, though.
Has anyone faced this and how did you handle it? I'm trying to find a way that will respect her, yet deal with the health issue. I know *I* have issues about dentists myself - I was slapped across the face by my dentist from 3 yo. on if I cried about getting a needle. My mother was horrified when she heard this - she wasn't allowed in the room in those days. Of course, I thought it was my fault and didn't realize until, oh, in my 30's, that it was not.
Anyway, I keep putting it off and I think I need some wise advice.
TIA,
Robin B.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/9/03 5:44:38 PM, robinbentley@... writes:
<< Her current dentist (empathetic, goes slow, will not force anything if the
child does not want it) suggested we go to a pediatric specialist to have the
work done under anaesthetic, so as not to traumatize her with more needles
etc. >>
I'd go with that if it were me.
Maybe get her teeth cleaned quarterly instead of once or twice a year, too.
Some people's saliva doesn't dissolve sugar very well at all. Mine doesn't.
I can't dissolve a cough drop in less than several hours, and when I was a
kid I never got to the middle of a Tootsie Roll pop--I'd just break it to get
to the middle part. And the effect of that is that I'm also not as easily
dissolving what's just in my mouth.
Sandra
<< Her current dentist (empathetic, goes slow, will not force anything if the
child does not want it) suggested we go to a pediatric specialist to have the
work done under anaesthetic, so as not to traumatize her with more needles
etc. >>
I'd go with that if it were me.
Maybe get her teeth cleaned quarterly instead of once or twice a year, too.
Some people's saliva doesn't dissolve sugar very well at all. Mine doesn't.
I can't dissolve a cough drop in less than several hours, and when I was a
kid I never got to the middle of a Tootsie Roll pop--I'd just break it to get
to the middle part. And the effect of that is that I'm also not as easily
dissolving what's just in my mouth.
Sandra
Nora or Devereaux Cannon
I have been told by 3 different dentists that there is almost no
reason to fill a baby tooth - though pediatric dentists make a
killing doing it. I do believe I would get a second opinion,
given that these baby teeth are about to go by the wayside
anyway. As to how to deal with a cavity prone kid with bad
dental hygiene, dunno - except to suspect that there is a
relationship between the prior dental pressure and treatment and
current resistance.
reason to fill a baby tooth - though pediatric dentists make a
killing doing it. I do believe I would get a second opinion,
given that these baby teeth are about to go by the wayside
anyway. As to how to deal with a cavity prone kid with bad
dental hygiene, dunno - except to suspect that there is a
relationship between the prior dental pressure and treatment and
current resistance.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Bentley" <robinbentley@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:51 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
| I wonder if folks have any suggestions for me and my 7 yo.
facing a lot of dental work.
|
| To make a long story short, we have now been to 4 dentists in
her short life, two of them in which fillings and an extraction
were done (with varying degrees of understanding and empathy, but
plenty of coercion) and now my daughter is facing at least 7
fillings in her baby teeth. Her current dentist (empathetic,
goes slow, will not force anything if the child does not want it)
suggested we go to a pediatric specialist to have the work done
under anaesthetic, so as not to traumatize her with more needles
etc. She wants to then build up her trust bit by bit, so she can
just clean her teeth (Michelle is sensitive to noise, is
frightened of anything that sounds like a drill and is loathe to
have anyone touch her mouth most of the time, including me.) I
have always been reluctant to force her tooth brushing and
flossing (she won't do the flossing and only occasionally will
let me do it for her), but the consequences are beginning to
show. She seems unaffected by any logical arguments I can come
up with, nor complaints about her bad breath (she just breathes
harder in my face LOL.)
|
| I am a little worried that the appointment to do this will be
traumatic enough, because it's another new face and another new
procedure. I can give her plenty of information beforehand
(which she likes to hear to help her prepare) and in the past,
she'd say she's ready, but we'd get there and she'd be terrified.
I'm afraid we'll end up not getting this done and have more
rotten teeth to pull, though.
|
| Has anyone faced this and how did you handle it? I'm trying to
find a way that will respect her, yet deal with the health issue.
I know *I* have issues about dentists myself - I was slapped
across the face by my dentist from 3 yo. on if I cried about
getting a needle. My mother was horrified when she heard this -
she wasn't allowed in the room in those days. Of course, I
thought it was my fault and didn't realize until, oh, in my 30's,
that it was not.
|
| Anyway, I keep putting it off and I think I need some wise
advice.
|
| TIA,
|
| Robin B.
|
|
| [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
|
|
| ~~~~ Don't forget! If you change topics, change the subject
line! ~~~~
|
| If you have questions, concerns or problems with this list,
please email the moderator, Joyce Fetteroll
(fetteroll@...), or the list owner, Helen Hegener
(HEM-Editor@...).
|
| To unsubscribe from this group, click on the following link or
address an email to:
| [email protected]
|
| Visit the Unschooling website: http://www.unschooling.com
|
| Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
|
|
|
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/9/03 7:44:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
she may not need treatment. If you can keep them really clean they may be
able to last until they fall out. My son had a crack in his front tooth from
a fall and we held onto that tooth for three years before it really started
to show in the front and become a problem. We have the best pediatric
dentist though. She just kept an eye on it and we kept it really clean. But
when it started to become a problem we did have to have it taken care of they
used nitrous oxide which helped a lot. He was scared going in and we talked
about everything ahead of time and I told him it was OK to be scared, I would
be there with him holding his hand. But he soon relaxed with the nitrous
oxide. And everything went smoothly. Our dentist explained to me that the
baby teeth have no nerves like secondary teeth. So you don't need Novocain.
Anyway your child may have a more serious problem than we have dealt with so
your situation may be different.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
robinbentley@... writes:
> I wonder if folks have any suggestions for me and my 7 yo. facing a lot ofIf the baby teeth are not hurting and are not visibly disappointing for her
> dental work.
>
>
she may not need treatment. If you can keep them really clean they may be
able to last until they fall out. My son had a crack in his front tooth from
a fall and we held onto that tooth for three years before it really started
to show in the front and become a problem. We have the best pediatric
dentist though. She just kept an eye on it and we kept it really clean. But
when it started to become a problem we did have to have it taken care of they
used nitrous oxide which helped a lot. He was scared going in and we talked
about everything ahead of time and I told him it was OK to be scared, I would
be there with him holding his hand. But he soon relaxed with the nitrous
oxide. And everything went smoothly. Our dentist explained to me that the
baby teeth have no nerves like secondary teeth. So you don't need Novocain.
Anyway your child may have a more serious problem than we have dealt with so
your situation may be different.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Robin Bentley
Sandra wrote:
mine. Once we can get the level of hysteria down about cleaning in the
first place with the frequent do-nothing-much visits, we'll give that a try.
Robin B.
> Maybe get her teeth cleaned quarterly instead of once or twice a year,too.
> Some people's saliva doesn't dissolve sugar very well at all. Minedoesn't.
> I can't dissolve a cough drop in less than several hours, and when I was aget
> kid I never got to the middle of a Tootsie Roll pop--I'd just break it to
> to the middle part. And the effect of that is that I'm also not aseasily
> dissolving what's just in my mouth.That's good advice. I'm the same way and I'm pretty sure her teeth are like
mine. Once we can get the level of hysteria down about cleaning in the
first place with the frequent do-nothing-much visits, we'll give that a try.
Robin B.
mary krzyzanowski
Would it be possible for your daughter to meet the pediatric dentist and
talk about what will happen at the appointment prior to the "dental work"
appointment?
Mary-NY
Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
talk about what will happen at the appointment prior to the "dental work"
appointment?
Mary-NY
>From: "Robin Bentley" <robinbentley@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:51:24 -0800
>
>I wonder if folks have any suggestions for me and my 7 yo. facing a lot of
>dental work.
>
>To make a long story short, we have now been to 4 dentists in her short
>life, two of them in which fillings and an extraction were done (with
>varying degrees of understanding and empathy, but plenty of coercion) and
>now my daughter is facing at least 7 fillings in her baby teeth. Her
>current dentist (empathetic, goes slow, will not force anything if the
>child does not want it) suggested we go to a pediatric specialist to have
>the work done under anaesthetic, so as not to traumatize her with more
>needles etc. She wants to then build up her trust bit by bit, so she can
>just clean her teeth (Michelle is sensitive to noise, is frightened of
>anything that sounds like a drill and is loathe to have anyone touch her
>mouth most of the time, including me.) I have always been reluctant to
>force her tooth brushing and flossing (she won't do the flossing and only
>occasionally will let me do it for her), but the consequences are beginning
>to show. She seems unaffected by any logical arguments I can come up with,
>nor complaints about her bad breath (she just breathes harder in my face
>LOL.)
>
>I am a little worried that the appointment to do this will be traumatic
>enough, because it's another new face and another new procedure. I can
>give her plenty of information beforehand (which she likes to hear to help
>her prepare) and in the past, she'd say she's ready, but we'd get there and
>she'd be terrified. I'm afraid we'll end up not getting this done and have
>more rotten teeth to pull, though.
>
>Has anyone faced this and how did you handle it? I'm trying to find a way
>that will respect her, yet deal with the health issue. I know *I* have
>issues about dentists myself - I was slapped across the face by my dentist
>from 3 yo. on if I cried about getting a needle. My mother was horrified
>when she heard this - she wasn't allowed in the room in those days. Of
>course, I thought it was my fault and didn't realize until, oh, in my 30's,
>that it was not.
>
>Anyway, I keep putting it off and I think I need some wise advice.
>
>TIA,
>
>Robin B.
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: Nora or Devereaux Cannon <dcannon@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> I have been told by 3 different dentists that there is almost no
> reason to fill a baby tooth - though pediatric dentists make a
> killing doing it. I do believe I would get a second opinion,
> given that these baby teeth are about to go by the wayside
> anyway. As to how to deal with a cavity prone kid with bad
> dental hygiene, dunno - except to suspect that there is a
> relationship between the prior dental pressure and treatment and
> current resistance.
I thought the same when she had her first cavities. But one of them
got so bad, it had an abscess and had to be pulled and a spacer put in. At
least, I felt I didn't want her to have more pain. Her current dentist was
more than willing to do as little as possible, but she showed me the x-rays
and the decay is going down the root. She wanted to avoid her having
another abscess and another tooth pulled, hence the suggestion to have them
looked after at the specialist.
And I think you are right about the resistance. After her first fillings,
her desire to brush well was reduced. Not that she ever wanted to from the
beginning, when I used to insist on it.
Robin B.
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: <genant2@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
>
> If the baby teeth are not hurting and are not visibly disappointing for
her
> she may not need treatment. If you can keep them really clean they may be
> able to last until they fall out.
Well, this is the trick. With her reluctance to have anyone touch her
teeth, including herself <sigh>, it's an uphill battle.
My son had a crack in his front tooth from
> a fall and we held onto that tooth for three years before it really
started
> to show in the front and become a problem. We have the best pediatric
> dentist though. She just kept an eye on it and we kept it really clean.
But
> when it started to become a problem we did have to have it taken care of
they
> used nitrous oxide which helped a lot. He was scared going in and we
talked
> about everything ahead of time and I told him it was OK to be scared, I
would > be there with him holding his hand. But he soon relaxed with the
nitrous
> oxide. And everything went smoothly.
This is heartening.
Our dentist explained to me that the
> baby teeth have no nerves like secondary teeth. So you don't need
Novocain.
Yes, her first 3 fillings were done without needles, but still with a metal
clamp that went over her teeth, which was painful. I had no idea that was
going to happen. And this one and the dentist who pulled her abscessed
tooth both insisted she have Atavan, so that she would forget the
experience. Ha. For the extraction, she had Novocaine and pliers and
blood.....she remembers *everything* from both visits. And she was
adversely affected by the Atavan the second time. Her current dentist
thinks Atavan is a bad idea (thank goodness.)
Argh. My remembrances of dentists (mine and hers) has my palms
a-sweating. And yet, I subjected her to all the things I hated, thinking I
was doing the right thing.
> Anyway your child may have a more serious problem than we have dealt with
so your situation may be different.
It would seem. But I already have some fresh ideas on what to do. Just a
bit of perspective from folks here so far has helped. And I've been talking
it over with daughter as I've received these replies and she's willing to
try some new strategies, such as brushing more often as long as I brush my
teeth with her. Maybe my teeth will get better, too LOL.
Thanks Pam, Nora & Sandra
Robin B.
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: mary krzyzanowski <meembeam@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> Would it be possible for your daughter to meet the pediatric dentist and
> talk about what will happen at the appointment prior to the "dental work"
> appointment?
> Mary-NY
That's an excellent idea. We can both see how comfortable we'll be, ahead
of time. Thanks.
Robin B.
Mary Bianco
>From: "Nora or Devereaux Cannon" <dcannon@...><<I have been told by 3 different dentists that there is almost no
reason to fill a baby tooth - though pediatric dentists make a
killing doing it. I do believe I would get a second opinion,
given that these baby teeth are about to go by the wayside
anyway. As to how to deal with a cavity prone kid with bad
dental hygiene, dunno - except to suspect that there is a
relationship between the prior dental pressure and treatment and
current resistance.>>
I agree on the second opinion thing. I have seen 4 dentists in the last
month for that reason alone. I want to be comfortable with the decision I
make based on what I've heard. I'm not sure about filling baby teeth. It
does sound a bit strange though considering her age right now. So far all my
kids are cavity free from age 2 to 17. If I had to deal with this, I would
get 3 opinions if need be until I felt sure. You don't sound all that
comfortable with what they are suggesting to do. If they still suggest
filling, I would go for the anesthesia. I had to have 6 teeth pulled at once
when I was about 10. They put me out and it was so stress free. I wish they
would put me out for the work I need to come. Can't talk them into it
though!!!
As far as dental treatment in the future if your daughters is prone to
problems......I would do whatever it took. Dealing with what I have to do
now, I'm very aggressive in letting my kids know how important it is for
them to take care of their teeth so they don't have to deal with what I do
now. I went out and bought everyone recommended toothbrushes and watch now
how they brush. I even watched my husband tonight and gave him tips!!!! I
won't do that every night now but I will keep up with it. I'll read to them
about tooth problems and gum disease. I'll show pictures if I have to. It's
just not worth it. I also made my daughters boyfriend tonight promise to see
a dentist as he has a toothache.
Okay so another thing to be anal about. At least it's a bit more important
than my clean floors!!!
Mary B
_________________________________________________________________
MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*.
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/9/03 11:50:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
remember it from my fillings and I thought it was a bit uncomfortable and
would be frightening for a child so I asked about it ahead of time and they
said it could be done without it if my son kept his mouth open, which he did.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
robinbentley@... writes:
> Yes, her first 3 fillings were done without needles, but still with a metalYou should talk with the dentist. I asked not to use the clamp thing. I
> clamp that went over her teeth, which was painful.
remember it from my fillings and I thought it was a bit uncomfortable and
would be frightening for a child so I asked about it ahead of time and they
said it could be done without it if my son kept his mouth open, which he did.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/9/03 11:50:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
call themselves a pediatric dentist doesn't mean they are sensitive to the
needs to children. I know a little girl who had 6 fillings taken care of,
she was 5, and they did it in two appointments. I have always brushed my
boys teeth but I started it when they were babies so it is natural for them.
My dentist also told us to brush with just water after snacks to help prevent
further decay of the crack my son had.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
robinbentley@... writes:
> I've received these replies and she's willing toAlso there are good and bad pediatric dentists out there. Just because they
> try some new strategies, such as brushing more often as long as I brush my
> teeth with her.
call themselves a pediatric dentist doesn't mean they are sensitive to the
needs to children. I know a little girl who had 6 fillings taken care of,
she was 5, and they did it in two appointments. I have always brushed my
boys teeth but I started it when they were babies so it is natural for them.
My dentist also told us to brush with just water after snacks to help prevent
further decay of the crack my son had.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/9/03 11:48:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
more pain and $$ than just getting it filled
Teresa
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
robinbentley@... writes:
> But one of themSame thing happened to Landon when he was 7.. Ended up being a heck of a lot
> got so bad, it had an abscess and had to be pulled and a spacer put in
more pain and $$ than just getting it filled
Teresa
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Rachel Ann
My experience with the dentist and my youngest, the only one to really have
dental problems, went like this:
When she was about 18mns old I noticed a bit of chipping, or what looked
like chipping on her front teeth. Called the dentist, we had been going to
this guy for years, and he looked at her teeth, declared them very decayed,
and told us he would have to tie her down, for about 1 1/2 hrs while he did
work on the three front teeth. Maybe he would have to go back later. She
would probably cry. Possibly for the whole 1 /12 hrs, but maybe she would go
to sleep. He smiled as he said this, and my stomach dropped out. We could do
it in the hospital under general, but we had to do it, and we didn't want to
put her under general did we? What could we do for her? Couldn't we do it
one tooth at a time, to see how she was feeling? Since one tooth would take
about 15mins or so, and then work on the next tooth? No. Best to do all
three at once. Wasn't there something else? He suggested a cocktail for me
I wanted to knock his stupid teeth out his smile made me so sick. He
implied if we didn't have the work done great catastrophes were in store for
us. We made an appointment for a month later, and I got to work.
I called around and got another or rather several opinions. Finally took my
daughter to the dentist I use who was billed as a family dentistry practice.
One dentist came out to the waiting room to look at her teeth as they didn
t take children that young into the room itself. Everyone there, the
dentist, nurses etc. kept saying, we just let the teeth rot and fall out.
Okay...she at that point wasn't in any pain.
Later she was in pain and another tooth looked bad; I took her back to the
dentist. Another dentist, the one I had usually seen and who owned the
practice, said she needed to be looked at by a pediatric dentist, and gave
me some names.
More calling till I found a dentist who was willing to work on her without
her screaming for 1 1/2.
She was gentle, talked to my child, funny, friendly, courteous, and was
willing to work with us to make Tehila happy, or as happy as she could be.
We ended up having her sedated and gave a bit of gas, and had the four front
teeth pulled. She fussed a minute or so while getting the gas, but
afterwards was fine. She has done fine in eating and nursing; hasn't missed
the dentist at all.
The dentist has made it a good experience for her; friendly, loving, smiling
etc. etc.
Really, I think the trick is to never put your child in that dental chair
unless and until you have a doctor who isn't a sadist, who in fact actually
likes children and is willing to work with you and your child for that child
s comfort.
The first doctor btw was a sadist. Several other people I met and talked
with later complained about his disrespectful ways with children, insisting
they weren't in pain when they were, getting angry at a child because she
kicked him (not deliberately) when she reacted in pain etc. etc.
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:25:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
In a message dated 1/9/03 11:48:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
more pain and $$ than just getting it filled
Teresa
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
~~~~ Don't forget! If you change topics, change the subject line! ~~~~
If you have questions, concerns or problems with this list, please email the
moderator, Joyce Fetteroll (fetteroll@...), or the list owner,
Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@...).
To unsubscribe from this group, click on the following link or address an
email to:
[email protected]
Visit the Unschooling website: http://www.unschooling.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
dental problems, went like this:
When she was about 18mns old I noticed a bit of chipping, or what looked
like chipping on her front teeth. Called the dentist, we had been going to
this guy for years, and he looked at her teeth, declared them very decayed,
and told us he would have to tie her down, for about 1 1/2 hrs while he did
work on the three front teeth. Maybe he would have to go back later. She
would probably cry. Possibly for the whole 1 /12 hrs, but maybe she would go
to sleep. He smiled as he said this, and my stomach dropped out. We could do
it in the hospital under general, but we had to do it, and we didn't want to
put her under general did we? What could we do for her? Couldn't we do it
one tooth at a time, to see how she was feeling? Since one tooth would take
about 15mins or so, and then work on the next tooth? No. Best to do all
three at once. Wasn't there something else? He suggested a cocktail for me
I wanted to knock his stupid teeth out his smile made me so sick. He
implied if we didn't have the work done great catastrophes were in store for
us. We made an appointment for a month later, and I got to work.
I called around and got another or rather several opinions. Finally took my
daughter to the dentist I use who was billed as a family dentistry practice.
One dentist came out to the waiting room to look at her teeth as they didn
t take children that young into the room itself. Everyone there, the
dentist, nurses etc. kept saying, we just let the teeth rot and fall out.
Okay...she at that point wasn't in any pain.
Later she was in pain and another tooth looked bad; I took her back to the
dentist. Another dentist, the one I had usually seen and who owned the
practice, said she needed to be looked at by a pediatric dentist, and gave
me some names.
More calling till I found a dentist who was willing to work on her without
her screaming for 1 1/2.
She was gentle, talked to my child, funny, friendly, courteous, and was
willing to work with us to make Tehila happy, or as happy as she could be.
We ended up having her sedated and gave a bit of gas, and had the four front
teeth pulled. She fussed a minute or so while getting the gas, but
afterwards was fine. She has done fine in eating and nursing; hasn't missed
the dentist at all.
The dentist has made it a good experience for her; friendly, loving, smiling
etc. etc.
Really, I think the trick is to never put your child in that dental chair
unless and until you have a doctor who isn't a sadist, who in fact actually
likes children and is willing to work with you and your child for that child
s comfort.
The first doctor btw was a sadist. Several other people I met and talked
with later complained about his disrespectful ways with children, insisting
they weren't in pain when they were, getting angry at a child because she
kicked him (not deliberately) when she reacted in pain etc. etc.
-------Original Message-------
From: [email protected]
Date: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:25:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
In a message dated 1/9/03 11:48:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
> But one of themSame thing happened to Landon when he was 7.. Ended up being a heck of a lot
> got so bad, it had an abscess and had to be pulled and a spacer put in
more pain and $$ than just getting it filled
Teresa
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
~~~~ Don't forget! If you change topics, change the subject line! ~~~~
If you have questions, concerns or problems with this list, please email the
moderator, Joyce Fetteroll (fetteroll@...), or the list owner,
Helen Hegener (HEM-Editor@...).
To unsubscribe from this group, click on the following link or address an
email to:
[email protected]
Visit the Unschooling website: http://www.unschooling.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/9/2003 6:44:24 PM Central Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
ease her into it.
If it's something that absolutely has to be done, I'd insist that they do it
all at once, under general anesthesia, and get it over with. No return
visits for invasive procedures, nothing like that.
And I might make an appointment where all she has to submit to is sitting in
the chair. The dentist won't touch her at all, there won't be any busy-ness
of the assistant behind the chair, no noises and perhaps the dentist can just
interact with her for 15 minutes or so. Let him hand her a balloon or a toy
and let her hop down and leave.
My son had a needle related trauma when he was 3, and I've often wondered
what I'd do if he HAD to have something done. The first thing I promised
myself was to question and question to make sure this thing ABSOLUTELY,
POSITIVELY had to be done, and what the consequences would be if we did or
did not. I think that's where I would start in your daughter's situation.
She's about to start losing her baby teeth anyway. Question everything.
Good luck!
Tuck
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
robinbentley@... writes:
> I am a little worried that the appointment to do this will be traumaticI think they can give you a sedative to give her before you go that will help
> enough, because it's another new face and another new procedure.
ease her into it.
If it's something that absolutely has to be done, I'd insist that they do it
all at once, under general anesthesia, and get it over with. No return
visits for invasive procedures, nothing like that.
And I might make an appointment where all she has to submit to is sitting in
the chair. The dentist won't touch her at all, there won't be any busy-ness
of the assistant behind the chair, no noises and perhaps the dentist can just
interact with her for 15 minutes or so. Let him hand her a balloon or a toy
and let her hop down and leave.
My son had a needle related trauma when he was 3, and I've often wondered
what I'd do if he HAD to have something done. The first thing I promised
myself was to question and question to make sure this thing ABSOLUTELY,
POSITIVELY had to be done, and what the consequences would be if we did or
did not. I think that's where I would start in your daughter's situation.
She's about to start losing her baby teeth anyway. Question everything.
Good luck!
Tuck
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/10/03 9:43:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tuckervill@... writes:
anesthesia. General anesthesia requires that it be done in a hospital, a lot
more involved than chloral hydrate in the dentists office. The chloral
hydrate s called conscious sedation. The child is very sleepy and usually
doesn't remember. More than nitrous oxide.
Talk with different dentists. Ours is great.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
tuckervill@... writes:
> , I'd insist that they do itIf they do it all at once they don't necessarily have to use general
> all at once, under general anesthesia, and get it over with.
anesthesia. General anesthesia requires that it be done in a hospital, a lot
more involved than chloral hydrate in the dentists office. The chloral
hydrate s called conscious sedation. The child is very sleepy and usually
doesn't remember. More than nitrous oxide.
Talk with different dentists. Ours is great.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: <genant2@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> In a message dated 1/9/03 11:50:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> robinbentley@... writes:
>
> > Yes, her first 3 fillings were done without needles, but still with a
metal
> > clamp that went over her teeth, which was painful.
>
> You should talk with the dentist. I asked not to use the clamp thing. I
> remember it from my fillings and I thought it was a bit uncomfortable and
> would be frightening for a child so I asked about it ahead of time and
they
> said it could be done without it if my son kept his mouth open, which he
did.
> Pam G.
I was surprised about the use of the clamp. But, yes, I should have
insisted he not use it. Unfortunately I was practically cowering in the
corner, crying my eyes out while it happened.
Dd's new dentist doesn't use those things, thank goodness.
Robin B.
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: <genant2@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> In a message dated 1/9/03 11:50:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> robinbentley@... writes:
>
> > I've received these replies and she's willing to
> > try some new strategies, such as brushing more often as long as I brush
my
> > teeth with her.
>
> Also there are good and bad pediatric dentists out there. Just because
they
> call themselves a pediatric dentist doesn't mean they are sensitive to the
> needs to children.
That's for sure. I would have preferred her current dentist do the work,
but she (the dentist) is cautious of traumatizing her further and therefore
suggested the general anaesthetic (or possibly gas) which she doesn't do.
She has filled one of her teeth, when the previous filling fell out, without
problem and without needles. She was mostly concerned about the extent of
the decay, perhaps leading to more abscesses and pulled teeth.
I suppose I could wait for that. But I think I'd rather save her the pain.
She's not in pain right now and if we could get the teeth fixed without
trauma, the hygiene we can work on more diligently. A light went on when
Sandra mentioned the saliva thing. I think I've been hoping for the best,
but not doing what's needed, given the circumstances.
Robin B.
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: <grlynbl@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> In a message dated 1/9/03 11:48:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> robinbentley@... writes:
>
> > But one of them
> > got so bad, it had an abscess and had to be pulled and a spacer put in
>
> Same thing happened to Landon when he was 7.. Ended up being a heck of a
lot
> more pain and $$ than just getting it filled
>
> Teresa
Yup. The pain is the worst thing.
Robin B.
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Bianco <mummyone24@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> I agree on the second opinion thing. I have seen 4 dentists in the last
> month for that reason alone. I want to be comfortable with the decision I
> make based on what I've heard. I'm not sure about filling baby teeth. It
> does sound a bit strange though considering her age right now. So far all
my
> kids are cavity free from age 2 to 17.
Lucky them! Probably good genes and hygiene.
If I had to deal with this, I would
> get 3 opinions if need be until I felt sure. You don't sound all that
> comfortable with what they are suggesting to do. If they still suggest
> filling, I would go for the anesthesia.
Good advice.
I had to have 6 teeth pulled at once
> when I was about 10. They put me out and it was so stress free. I wish
they
> would put me out for the work I need to come. Can't talk them into it
> though!!!
Yeah, I've asked for the same thing and keep getting turned down. And now
Novocaine isn't working as well for me. I need at least 4 needles per tooth
to get the nerves to freeze. I know sometimes you get what you need to deal
with, but this is too much!
>
> As far as dental treatment in the future if your daughters is prone to
> problems......I would do whatever it took. Dealing with what I have to do
> now, I'm very aggressive in letting my kids know how important it is for
> them to take care of their teeth so they don't have to deal with what I do
> now. I went out and bought everyone recommended toothbrushes and watch now
> how they brush. I even watched my husband tonight and gave him tips!!!! I
> won't do that every night now but I will keep up with it. I'll read to
them
> about tooth problems and gum disease. I'll show pictures if I have to.
It's
> just not worth it. I also made my daughters boyfriend tonight promise to
see
> a dentist as he has a toothache.
I try not to scare her as she has enough fears as it is. But stepping up
the hygiene and assistance from me will be a good start.
>
> Okay so another thing to be anal about. At least it's a bit more important
> than my clean floors!!!
I totally agree!
Robin B.
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: Rachel Ann <hindar@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
>
> My experience with the dentist and my youngest, the only one to really
have
> dental problems, went like this:
>
> When she was about 18mns old I noticed a bit of chipping, or what looked
> like chipping on her front teeth. Called the dentist, we had been going
to
> this guy for years, and he looked at her teeth, declared them very
decayed,
> and told us he would have to tie her down, for about 1 1/2 hrs while he
did
> work on the three front teeth. Maybe he would have to go back later. She
> would probably cry. Possibly for the whole 1 /12 hrs, but maybe she would
go
> to sleep. He smiled as he said this, and my stomach dropped out. We could
do
> it in the hospital under general, but we had to do it, and we didn't want
to
> put her under general did we? What could we do for her? Couldn't we do it
> one tooth at a time, to see how she was feeling? Since one tooth would
take
> about 15mins or so, and then work on the next tooth? No. Best to do all
> three at once. Wasn't there something else? He suggested a cocktail for
me
> I wanted to knock his stupid teeth out his smile made me so sick. He
> implied if we didn't have the work done great catastrophes were in store
for
> us. We made an appointment for a month later, and I got to work.
Ahhh, Rachel Ann. I know what you mean. I had the same experience with her
first dentist (mine also). I felt manipulated. He even said, " if she were
my daughter, I would do it." This is when we were facing the pulled tooth.
When I wanted to think about it, he basically ignored me the rest of the
time we were there. I wondered afterward about his big house, pool, horses
and expensive cars and thought how we were buying them with my daughter's
trust.
>
> I called around and got another or rather several opinions. Finally took
my
> daughter to the dentist I use who was billed as a family dentistry
practice.
> One dentist came out to the waiting room to look at her teeth as they
didn
> t take children that young into the room itself. Everyone there, the
> dentist, nurses etc. kept saying, we just let the teeth rot and fall out.
>
> Okay...she at that point wasn't in any pain.
The second dentist was a hip young thing, who was into high tech stuff and
had a really nice assistant. They were both women and this seemed to make a
difference to my daughter. But they made some serious mistakes in my mind.
Threatening her with turning off the tv, taking away her treat if she didn't
submit, telling her it couldn't be that bad, stop crying. This after
fitting her spacer, then being unable to get it off to put the "glue" on it
(yeah, my daughter's going to want glue in her mouth) and coming at her with
pliers. And then she couldn't get it off anyway. It was awful. We were
both absolute wrecks afterward. And it's still there after 1 1/2 years.
>
> Later she was in pain and another tooth looked bad; I took her back to
the
> dentist. Another dentist, the one I had usually seen and who owned the
> practice, said she needed to be looked at by a pediatric dentist, and gave
> me some names.
>
> More calling till I found a dentist who was willing to work on her without
> her screaming for 1 1/2.
> She was gentle, talked to my child, funny, friendly, courteous, and was
> willing to work with us to make Tehila happy, or as happy as she could
be.
>
> We ended up having her sedated and gave a bit of gas, and had the four
front
> teeth pulled. She fussed a minute or so while getting the gas, but
> afterwards was fine. She has done fine in eating and nursing; hasn't
missed
> the dentist at all.
>
> The dentist has made it a good experience for her; friendly, loving,
smiling
> etc. etc.
Yes, this is what it has been like with the new dentist, finally. And she
is the kind of person who advocates a wait-and-see approach. Dd's front
bottom adult teeth came in in back of her baby teeth. The first dentist
(whom I saw and decided to ask his opinion when I was in the office for
hygiene) would have pulled them, sight unseen. The new dentist is letting
them fall out when they are ready (one is still there - dd looks like a
shark <g>.) So, I'm feeling more trusting of her advice. And she really
wants Michelle to be comfortable, hence the suggestion of general
anaesthetic.
>
> Really, I think the trick is to never put your child in that dental chair
> unless and until you have a doctor who isn't a sadist, who in fact
actually
> likes children and is willing to work with you and your child for that
child
> s comfort.
Exactly. I didn't trust my instincts until too late for the most part. I
think I've found the right dentist for her. And in spite of the difficulty
Michelle's had with her visits (frightened and uncooperative), *she* still
wants to go back to her because she's gentle and courteous.
I also think it's up to me to be her advocate in advance now. I've been too
willing to take what they say as the "truth" until it all goes bad. Time to
be skeptical and proactive.
>
> The first doctor btw was a sadist. Several other people I met and talked
> with later complained about his disrespectful ways with children,
insisting
> they weren't in pain when they were, getting angry at a child because she
> kicked him (not deliberately) when she reacted in pain etc. etc.
I wonder how people like this stay in business. I think there aren't enough
parents who are willing to question because of their own experiences, like
me. It's tied up with approval-seeking for me - I'm finally beginning to
extricate myself from that. Argh.
Robin B.
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/10/03 4:18:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
what goes on.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
robinbentley@... writes:
> I wonder how people like this stay in business. I think there aren't enoughI think a lot of parents don't even go in with the children. Have no idea
> parents who are willing to question because of their own experiences, like
> me. It's tied up with approval-seeking for me - I'm finally beginning to
> extricate myself from that. Argh.
>
>
what goes on.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: <tuckervill@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> In a message dated 1/9/2003 6:44:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> robinbentley@... writes:
>
> > I am a little worried that the appointment to do this will be traumatic
> > enough, because it's another new face and another new procedure.
>
> I think they can give you a sedative to give her before you go that will
help
> ease her into it.
I think that was the idea behind the Atavan. It does nasty things to
Michelle up to 24 hours afterwards (vomiting, wobbly legs, just wierdness.)
>
> If it's something that absolutely has to be done, I'd insist that they do
it
> all at once, under general anesthesia, and get it over with. No return
> visits for invasive procedures, nothing like that.
Yes. I think that's the way I'm going.
>
> And I might make an appointment where all she has to submit to is sitting
in
> the chair. The dentist won't touch her at all, there won't be any
busy-ness
> of the assistant behind the chair, no noises and perhaps the dentist can
just
> interact with her for 15 minutes or so. Let him hand her a balloon or a
toy
> and let her hop down and leave.
This is what I've been thinking to do, also. She needs some time to feel
comfortable and so do I.
>
> My son had a needle related trauma when he was 3, and I've often wondered
> what I'd do if he HAD to have something done. The first thing I promised
> myself was to question and question to make sure this thing ABSOLUTELY,
> POSITIVELY had to be done, and what the consequences would be if we did or
> did not. I think that's where I would start in your daughter's situation.
> She's about to start losing her baby teeth anyway. Question everything.
Indeed!
>
> Good luck!
Thanks, Tuck.
Robin B.
Mary Bianco
>From: genant2@...<<I think a lot of parents don't even go in with the children. Have no idea
what goes on.>>
When I was shopping around for a dentist on my childrens health plan, I had
a major problem finding anyone who would allow me back into the room with
them. I was just about at the end of the list when I finally found one. She
was great, unfortunately she later up and disappeared. Luckily I found
pediatric dentists who have so far been great and have no problem with me in
the back with them. In fact I was rather impressed on the first visit there.
My son has a gag reflex that happens with the slightest provocation. They
were having a hard time with him trying to get x-rays. He was crying and
gagging but the girl was so very sweet and patient with him. I was very
surprised and happy at the same time. Although I felt bad for the poor
little guy. Luckily that's done for awhile now.
Mary B
_________________________________________________________________
The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*.
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU=
http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf
Robin Bentley
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Bianco <mummyone24@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
> >From: genant2@...
>
> <<I think a lot of parents don't even go in with the children. Have no
idea
> what goes on.>>
>
>
> When I was shopping around for a dentist on my childrens health plan, I
had
> a major problem finding anyone who would allow me back into the room with
> them. I was just about at the end of the list when I finally found one.
I have to say I've been lucky in this area (apparently the only area up
until now <sigh>) Both my dh and I have been welcomed into the treatment
rooms at all four dentists. In fact, I only know of one dentist who doesn't
allow it - my friend takes her daughter there (though I have no idea why.)
But I'm afraid
Pam is right.
I had a conversation with another friend whose child has experienced what we
may be about to and we talked about this. She felt one of the reasons we
seem to have such trouble finding gentle, careful, empathetic dentists is
that they are less accustomed to children like ours (hers and mine and
perhaps others.) They are sensitive, aware, emotional and attached instead
of children who have been in daycare and school since day one. She felt
they had been "toughened up" from those experiences and more likely to "obey
authority." It had a ring of truth to me. It might account for the
willingness of parents to hand their children over to an "expert" as they do
with school, thus the dentists do not expect to have to accommodate parents
like us. Well, they're wrong. I'm getting quite a head of steam up over
this...<g>
Robin B.
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/11/03 1:34:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
robinbentley@... writes:
children, not sure if that helps. But she is so understanding. I go in with
the boys and a couple of years ago my youngest would have me sit at the foot
of the chair and hold his hands and talk to him while she counted teeth. She
would ask him if they could clean his teeth today and he would say yes or no
and that was OK. After a couple of years he finally said yes and he even
asked that I just stand at the side. He still won't let them take X rays.
Next visit he has agreed to watch his brother get them. Baby steps. She
always takes about 5 minutes to ask them about their pets and let them talk.
(we have quite a few pets). That really helps.
Anyway I guess I was rambling but just wanted to say look around.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
robinbentley@... writes:
> . She felt one of the reasons weBut those kinds of dentists are out there. Ours happens to be a female with
> seem to have such trouble finding gentle, careful, empathetic dentists is
> that they are less accustomed to children like ours (hers and mine and
> perhaps others.) They are sensitive, aware, emotional and attached instead
> of children who have been in daycare and school since day one.
children, not sure if that helps. But she is so understanding. I go in with
the boys and a couple of years ago my youngest would have me sit at the foot
of the chair and hold his hands and talk to him while she counted teeth. She
would ask him if they could clean his teeth today and he would say yes or no
and that was OK. After a couple of years he finally said yes and he even
asked that I just stand at the side. He still won't let them take X rays.
Next visit he has agreed to watch his brother get them. Baby steps. She
always takes about 5 minutes to ask them about their pets and let them talk.
(we have quite a few pets). That really helps.
Anyway I guess I was rambling but just wanted to say look around.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Jim Selvage
I have had problems with dentists and eye doctors not letting me go back
with my children too. The first time my daughter went to the eye doctor, I
started to follow her in, and the eye doctor said that I could not accompany
her, that he had found the children talked to him better without the parents
present. I told him that my daughter expected me to be with her, and that I
was going. He was definitely not happy! We finished those visits, and then
found a different doctor.
My son (almost 15) has braces and dental work at the same dentist. The
first few appointments I went back with him, and then I stopped, figuring he
was okay. I found out a few months ago, that whenever I wasn't there a
certain dental tech was just plain mean when she put bands on and stuff, not
gentle at all. So what we do now is I go back with him until I cannot stand
up any longer and then I go sit down (they do not have chairs for the
parents back in the rooms). When I go back with him, the "ungentle" dental
assistant never, ever works on his teeth. It is always the nice one. It
could be coincidence, but I doubt it, since before this he often got the
other one. I really worry about the kids whose parents just send them back
there and never ask questions.
many blessings,
erin
with my children too. The first time my daughter went to the eye doctor, I
started to follow her in, and the eye doctor said that I could not accompany
her, that he had found the children talked to him better without the parents
present. I told him that my daughter expected me to be with her, and that I
was going. He was definitely not happy! We finished those visits, and then
found a different doctor.
My son (almost 15) has braces and dental work at the same dentist. The
first few appointments I went back with him, and then I stopped, figuring he
was okay. I found out a few months ago, that whenever I wasn't there a
certain dental tech was just plain mean when she put bands on and stuff, not
gentle at all. So what we do now is I go back with him until I cannot stand
up any longer and then I go sit down (they do not have chairs for the
parents back in the rooms). When I go back with him, the "ungentle" dental
assistant never, ever works on his teeth. It is always the nice one. It
could be coincidence, but I doubt it, since before this he often got the
other one. I really worry about the kids whose parents just send them back
there and never ask questions.
many blessings,
erin
> > <<I think a lot of parents don't even go in with the children. Have nowith
> idea
> > what goes on.>>
> >
> >
> > When I was shopping around for a dentist on my childrens health plan, I
> had
> > a major problem finding anyone who would allow me back into the room
> > them. I was just about at the end of the list when I finally found one.
kayb85 <[email protected]>
The first time my daughter went to the eye doctor, I
Sheila
> started to follow her in, and the eye doctor said that I could notaccompany
> her, that he had found the children talked to him better withoutthe parents
> present.What in the world does an eye doctor need to talk to kids about?
Sheila
Jim Selvage
> What in the world does an eye doctor need to talk to kids about?Oh, he said when he would be asking questions about how her sight was, what
she could see, what she couldn't, how she was doing in school, etc. Seemed
rather lame to me. I didn't like the whole thing. I questioned what he
might do or say to my daughter. I think that most parents just let the
children go back by themselves though. I was probably the first who
questioned it. But, hey, my mom still goes into the eye doctor's office
with me when I am home (I still go to the same eye doctor I did growing up
and she has always gone back with me, it seemed natural.) And last time I
was home, I went back with her when she had her appointment. (We were out
together and she wanted me to meet her new eye doctor).
many blessings,
erin
mary krzyzanowski
Robin,
You mentioned your dd doesn't like the sound of the dentist's drill. Could
she wear a headset and listen to something to cover the noise?
Mary-NY
The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
You mentioned your dd doesn't like the sound of the dentist's drill. Could
she wear a headset and listen to something to cover the noise?
Mary-NY
>From: "Robin Bentley" <robinbentley@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:55:17 -0800
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Nora or Devereaux Cannon <dcannon@...>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] More dentists...
>
>
> > I have been told by 3 different dentists that there is almost no
> > reason to fill a baby tooth - though pediatric dentists make a
> > killing doing it. I do believe I would get a second opinion,
> > given that these baby teeth are about to go by the wayside
> > anyway. As to how to deal with a cavity prone kid with bad
> > dental hygiene, dunno - except to suspect that there is a
> > relationship between the prior dental pressure and treatment and
> > current resistance.
>
>I thought the same when she had her first cavities. But one of them
>got so bad, it had an abscess and had to be pulled and a spacer put in. At
>least, I felt I didn't want her to have more pain. Her current dentist was
>more than willing to do as little as possible, but she showed me the x-rays
>and the decay is going down the root. She wanted to avoid her having
>another abscess and another tooth pulled, hence the suggestion to have them
>looked after at the specialist.
>
>And I think you are right about the resistance. After her first fillings,
>her desire to brush well was reduced. Not that she ever wanted to from the
>beginning, when I used to insist on it.
>
>Robin B.
>
>
>
The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail