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Ever since you decided to give Ned Vare the boot from the unschooling list,
I've been disenchanted with the list. It's not that I was particularly wild
about all of his posts. It's just that the whole philosophy of
open-mindedness that I thought must naturally be part and parcel of
unschooling, runs against censorship. In rare instances where a poster might
be particularly lewd, bigoted, or hateful I might understand censorship. But
I believe Ned's (and there are probably other unfortunates who have run
against the popular sentiment of the powers that be at unschooling.com, and
been booted) only offense was to have an agenda and opinions that ran against
the popular grain. I was insulted and incensed that I was not given the
option to read or to delete his posts myself. I seek out forums such as
unschooling.com because I often discover and either change or reinforce my
beliefs and way of thinking by involving myself in provocative artistic,
intellectual or emotional discourse. Often, those who upset me, and push me,
force me out of a complacent mindset and position me to learn in ways that
neither they nor I can have imagined. Spoonfeeding is for babies. Removing
the antagonistic people from your list (if you continue to do so) will surely
make the list and what you stand for irrelevant.

Sincerely,
Foxglove Studio


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In a message dated 1/2/03 11:00:33 AM, FoxgloveStudio@... writes:

<< Ever since you decided to give Ned Vare the boot from the unschooling
list,
I've been disenchanted with the list. >>

Nick is still on HEM-Unschooling
(another HEM-sponsored unschooling list)
and I think still on the politics list that was spun off this one for that
purpose.

<<It's just that the whole philosophy of
open-mindedness that I thought must naturally be part and parcel of
unschooling, runs against censorship. In rare instances where a poster might
be particularly lewd, bigoted, or hateful I might understand censorship. But
I believe Ned's ... only offense was to have an agenda and opinions that ran
against
the popular grain.>>

Ned's offense was to insist on badmouthing schools, which he just did again
this week (inappropriately, to someone whose kids have never even BEEN in
school). If you really like that stuff he's still on an HEM list, and still
pushing phonics and all...

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Sandra

jaeschool <[email protected]>

--- In [email protected], FoxgloveStudio@a... wrote:
> Ever since you decided to give Ned Vare the boot from the
unschooling list,


Who is this Ned Vare? ( the same person as the "Nick" that Sandra
mentioned?) What list did he get booted from?

Teresa

Annette Marshall

Hi, I thought I would introduce myself. I just joined
yesterday. My name is Annette. I am married to my
wonderful husband and father to our children Don for
the past 18 years. Our kids are 16 yo Ian, 14 yo
Hannah, 10 year old Molly and 22 month old Laurel. I
am a long time home schooler with this being my 11th
year.

My two oldest kids chose to try school out. My son was
there for 3 years from 8th grade though his sophomore
year. He is now back home and working toward early
graduation at the end of this year.

Hannah (my 14 yo) went to school in the 6th grade and
has continued on there. She is in a wonderful school
(as far as public schools go) out in the country that
does a lot of hands on, interesting, living educating
of the children there.

Molly (my 10 yo) is severely (diagnosed) dyslexic.
That has been a long road for the both of us. She is a
wonderful child, with a brilliant, creative mind. She
loves art of all types and spends as much time as she
can squeeze out of each day either painting, drawing,
or sculpting. She also loves sports and plays on
several rec league teams throughout the year. She was
a team gymnast for awhile, but opted out when the goal
of perfection became more of a pressure than fun.

Laurel just bobs along hanging out with all of us at
various times. She keeps life full of fun. It is so
wonderful having a little one in the house again. Will
I ever get my fill of babies and toddlers?! I think we
are at the point now where we will have to wait for
grandkids if we want any more babies running through
our house. :o) But you never know!

I look forward to reading everyone's posts and getting
to know all of you to some degree. I understand this
is a large, high volume, list. I hope I can keep up!

Blessings and peace upon this New Year for us all.
Annette


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on 1/1/03 10:16 PM, FoxgloveStudio@... at FoxgloveStudio@... wrote:

> Removing
> the antagonistic people from your list (if you continue to do so) will surely
> make the list and what you stand for irrelevant.

I'm sorry you see it that way. It wasn't a lightly made decision.

What it boils down to is Ned generated way too much mail (including
responses to him) on a topic (homeschooling freedoms) that wasn't what
people had signed on to this list to discuss.

If people wanted to read about it as much as Ned wanted to write about it,
there would be a lot more people on his list. I'll post it again, if anyone
is interested:

[email protected]

Ned posts there occasionally but I think he's most active on NHEN's
political action list. (I'm not sure of the name. Check at
http://www.nhen.org)

BTW, HEM just started a new list for anyone interested in the politics of
homeschooling:

HEM Political Action
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HEM-PoliticalAction

Joyce