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Robyn Carter
Hiya, all:
Just wanted to say I'm still here, recuperating from the holidays.
Not much to say (rare moment), but definitely lurking.
Robyn
Just wanted to say I'm still here, recuperating from the holidays.
Not much to say (rare moment), but definitely lurking.
Robyn
Mary Bianco
I'm here too. Just been lurking and unchristmasing! My whole house is back
to normal in more ways than one. All 4 of my kids got sick again and this
time even I didn't escape the germs. Hubby got it again too. Good news, I
got my 7 year old son to take pills. Little sudafeds but boy did it help.
Everyone is on the mend, my house is decoration free and now I'm gearing up
for sons birthday next weekend. What do you buy a kid that just had
Christmas???
Mary B
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to normal in more ways than one. All 4 of my kids got sick again and this
time even I didn't escape the germs. Hubby got it again too. Good news, I
got my 7 year old son to take pills. Little sudafeds but boy did it help.
Everyone is on the mend, my house is decoration free and now I'm gearing up
for sons birthday next weekend. What do you buy a kid that just had
Christmas???
Mary B
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I wish my house was back to "normal" ( what is normal anyway??) Ive been
trying to find somewhere to put thier new stuff and sort of organize thier
old stuff. Its time for me to retire some more toys that JP has outgrown. I
did get all the boxes burned and most of the mess up, but I havent taken down
my decorations yet. I usually wait til the weekend after New Years..
The boys got an XBOX and a Nintendo 64 ( used) for Christmas and they have
had fun playing those and watching DVDs on the XBOX.. Landon got the SE LOTR
Fellowship of the Ring DVD set and its like over 20 hours worth of stuff..
Anna got a new sewing machine and a bunch of cross stitch supplies and shes
been stitching away.
I've been trying to figure out how to make some $$.. but.. so far, nothing
spectacular has hit me.. Gosh, Ive got enough kids clothes, toys, books, etc
to open my own second hand store.. ( which, Ive had one before) But I dont
have the store to sell it in.. If I could get organized, Ebay might be a
good avenue, but I dont know,, seems like EVERYBODY sells on Ebay. .. sigh..
Maybe a good old fashioned yardsale, but thats about like giving it away. I
have skills, I just cant find anyone to pay me for them.. :-) Well, tax
refund time is just around the bend. maybe we will survive til Uncle Sam
kicks us back a few $$..
Teresa
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trying to find somewhere to put thier new stuff and sort of organize thier
old stuff. Its time for me to retire some more toys that JP has outgrown. I
did get all the boxes burned and most of the mess up, but I havent taken down
my decorations yet. I usually wait til the weekend after New Years..
The boys got an XBOX and a Nintendo 64 ( used) for Christmas and they have
had fun playing those and watching DVDs on the XBOX.. Landon got the SE LOTR
Fellowship of the Ring DVD set and its like over 20 hours worth of stuff..
Anna got a new sewing machine and a bunch of cross stitch supplies and shes
been stitching away.
I've been trying to figure out how to make some $$.. but.. so far, nothing
spectacular has hit me.. Gosh, Ive got enough kids clothes, toys, books, etc
to open my own second hand store.. ( which, Ive had one before) But I dont
have the store to sell it in.. If I could get organized, Ebay might be a
good avenue, but I dont know,, seems like EVERYBODY sells on Ebay. .. sigh..
Maybe a good old fashioned yardsale, but thats about like giving it away. I
have skills, I just cant find anyone to pay me for them.. :-) Well, tax
refund time is just around the bend. maybe we will survive til Uncle Sam
kicks us back a few $$..
Teresa
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Mary Bianco
>From: grlynbl@...<<I wish my house was back to "normal" ( what is normal anyway??) Ive been
trying to find somewhere to put thier new stuff and sort of organize thier
old stuff>>
Well since we decorated the day after Thanksgiving, I was ready now to take
everything down. We usually wait also until after the new year. And I also
get the kids moving on cleaning out old stuff in Oct. I anticipate the
coming of all the new "stuff." So to make room, every Oct. they go through
all the stuff they no longer play with and wear. Most of the the stuff goes
to the festival of our local church.
The really nice and new looking stuff I save. Which leads me to the next
part.
<<I've been trying to figure out how to make some $$.. but.. so far, nothing
spectacular has hit me..>>
I consign the really good stuff. I found a great little consignment shop
close by. She splits the stuff with me 50/50. Doesn't charge me anything to
sign up with her and really takes only great looking stuff so she can charge
higher prices too. I make quite a bit that way. All the grown out of toys
and clothes that aren't worn go there. Nice little chunk of change for me
without all the hassle. My baby decided she doesn't want to play with baby
toys and follows along with the older two. I had a ton of really nice and
new stuff to get rid of. The lady was ecstatic at the store when she saw
what I had. Much better than a yard sale.
Mary B
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Robyn Carter
Good question, Mary! "What do you buy a kid that just had Christmas"! That's
a challenge for me, too...I have one with a birthday 2 weeks before, and the
baby (who'll be 6 *SOB*) has a birthday in January! Soooo...when you figure
that one out, let me know. How about a cool experience, and no plastic?
Y'think they'd go for it?
;-) Robyn
a challenge for me, too...I have one with a birthday 2 weeks before, and the
baby (who'll be 6 *SOB*) has a birthday in January! Soooo...when you figure
that one out, let me know. How about a cool experience, and no plastic?
Y'think they'd go for it?
;-) Robyn
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From: "Mary Bianco" <mummyone24@...>
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> I'm here too. Just been lurking and unchristmasing! My whole house is back
> to normal in more ways than one. All 4 of my kids got sick again and this
> time even I didn't escape the germs. Hubby got it again too. Good news, I
> got my 7 year old son to take pills. Little sudafeds but boy did it help.
> Everyone is on the mend, my house is decoration free and now I'm gearing
up
> for sons birthday next weekend. What do you buy a kid that just had
> Christmas???
>
> Mary B
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>From: "Robyn Carter" <rcarter@...><<Good question, Mary! "What do you buy a kid that just had Christmas"!
That's a challenge for me, too...I have one with a birthday 2 weeks before,
and the baby (who'll be 6 *SOB*) has a birthday in January! Soooo...when you
figure that one out, let me know. How about a cool experience, and no
plastic?
Y'think they'd go for it?>>
LOL!!! I'm kind of screwed in 4 ways here. My sons birthday is Jan. 4th, so
it comes quick. Then a daughters birthday in Feb., another daughters
birthday in March and my husband in April. I have a rest with my last
daughter born in Oct.!!!!
Every year we let the birthday child pick out where they would like to spend
the day or night. Nothing too pricey but the zoo or museum or even the
arcade are usual choices. Then we have the family birthday party thing
going. Just really like to have something for them though to open. Christmas
is our big deal around her with birthdays coming a close second. At least 3
or 4 gifts are in order. He got a computer last year, not sure we'll beat
that this year though. My daughter got a puppy last time and the another
daughter a kitten, we surely won't be doing that again anytime soon!!!!
Since our son gave us barely nothing to go on for Christmas, it will be even
tougher now. Usually there are a few things leftover that he asked for from
Christmas that he didn't get. Not this year!
Mary B
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Stephanie Elms
> Good question, Mary! "What do you buy a kid that just hadHey count me in on that one too! My oldest just turned 6 Dec 9th and my youngest
> Christmas"! That's
> a challenge for me, too...I have one with a birthday 2 weeks
> before, and the
> baby (who'll be 6 *SOB*) has a birthday in January!
> Soooo...when you figure
> that one out, let me know. How about a cool experience, and
> no plastic?
will be 3 in Feb (oh can't forget hubby's birthday in Feb too). My birthday is in
June and I always felt sorry for those kids who had birthdays around christmas...
swore I would never do that to my kids LOL! Ahh well. I just spread out my oldest's
presents over the two (my kids are the only grandkids on both sides, so they get
royally spoiled over the holidays). I have a few ideas for kyle that he did not get
for Christmas, so that should work...I like the idea about an experience though...might
work when my guys are a bit older..right now they expect presents!
Stephanie E.
Anne B <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], "Mary Bianco"
<mummyone24@h...> wrote:
What do you buy a kid that just had Christmas???
I've got the same issue -- dd turned 8 on 12/21. She ends up getting
all her gifts at once; we just make sure some of the gifts under the
tree has birthday wrap. There are usually things she wants, or I
think she would like, that she doesn't get, so those become
suggestions for friends who ask when she has her party in January.
Consumables are always good -- art kits, craft projects, etc. So are
tickets for theatres, museums, amusement parks, etc.
Anne.
<mummyone24@h...> wrote:
What do you buy a kid that just had Christmas???
I've got the same issue -- dd turned 8 on 12/21. She ends up getting
all her gifts at once; we just make sure some of the gifts under the
tree has birthday wrap. There are usually things she wants, or I
think she would like, that she doesn't get, so those become
suggestions for friends who ask when she has her party in January.
Consumables are always good -- art kits, craft projects, etc. So are
tickets for theatres, museums, amusement parks, etc.
Anne.
[email protected]
<I
I consign the really good stuff. I found a great little consignment shop
close by. She splits the stuff with me 50/50
___
I used to consign all of my kids stuff. I owned a consignment/resale store
for a few years... That was a GREAT set up..I got thier clothes for nearly
nothing and then ended up making $$ on them.. But, that was before I had baby
#4, Jon Phillip, who is now 7. He's the only one still in kids size
clothing. Ethan is on the top end in boys size 16-18, going into a mens
small. I could still consign thier clothes, (even though adult sizes dont go
as well as kids) but I got lazy!!..I have SOOO MUCH piled up, its
overwhelming. I have just got to tackle it.. Get it all out, wash it,
organize it.. etc etc. When I did the outgrown clothes thing every season,
I pretty much stayed on top of it.. But, after I sold the store, I started
letting it pile up and then just procrastinated getting it all together. Im
the same way with my clothes.. GEEZ, I have a ton I need to get rid of too..
And.. On the other topic.. Close to Christmas birthdays
Ethans is in Sept, Annas in Oct, Landons in Nov. None of them are too close
to Christmas to really have any effect on what or how much they get, but, Its
like I have 3 months in a row of birthday parties and celebrations.. THEN its
Thanksgiving. THEN Christmas! Dh's bd is in March, Mine and JPs are in
April.. Then its a long break til we do it all over again. Actually, there
is a birthday ( or 2) in my extended family in every month of the year.
Teresa
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I consign the really good stuff. I found a great little consignment shop
close by. She splits the stuff with me 50/50
___
I used to consign all of my kids stuff. I owned a consignment/resale store
for a few years... That was a GREAT set up..I got thier clothes for nearly
nothing and then ended up making $$ on them.. But, that was before I had baby
#4, Jon Phillip, who is now 7. He's the only one still in kids size
clothing. Ethan is on the top end in boys size 16-18, going into a mens
small. I could still consign thier clothes, (even though adult sizes dont go
as well as kids) but I got lazy!!..I have SOOO MUCH piled up, its
overwhelming. I have just got to tackle it.. Get it all out, wash it,
organize it.. etc etc. When I did the outgrown clothes thing every season,
I pretty much stayed on top of it.. But, after I sold the store, I started
letting it pile up and then just procrastinated getting it all together. Im
the same way with my clothes.. GEEZ, I have a ton I need to get rid of too..
And.. On the other topic.. Close to Christmas birthdays
Ethans is in Sept, Annas in Oct, Landons in Nov. None of them are too close
to Christmas to really have any effect on what or how much they get, but, Its
like I have 3 months in a row of birthday parties and celebrations.. THEN its
Thanksgiving. THEN Christmas! Dh's bd is in March, Mine and JPs are in
April.. Then its a long break til we do it all over again. Actually, there
is a birthday ( or 2) in my extended family in every month of the year.
Teresa
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In a message dated 12/30/02 8:11:18 PM, rcarter@... writes:
<< "What do you buy a kid that just had Christmas"! >>
Marty's birthday is January 14, and what he gets for his birthday is usually
whatever he might have been disappointed not to get for Christmas! This year
it will be a video game.
I'm inviting people over, because he had no birthday plan. They're big kids
now and lots of his friends drive, so if they get here and decide to go out
and do something that will be fine.
He will be fourteen on the fourteenth, and that won't ever happen again!
Sandra
<< "What do you buy a kid that just had Christmas"! >>
Marty's birthday is January 14, and what he gets for his birthday is usually
whatever he might have been disappointed not to get for Christmas! This year
it will be a video game.
I'm inviting people over, because he had no birthday plan. They're big kids
now and lots of his friends drive, so if they get here and decide to go out
and do something that will be fine.
He will be fourteen on the fourteenth, and that won't ever happen again!
Sandra
Tia Leschke
>So did my granddaughter!
> I've got the same issue -- dd turned 8 on 12/21.
She ends up getting
> all her gifts at once; we just make sure some of the gifts under theHeather does Skye's kid party somewhere around the day, then a family party
> tree has birthday wrap.
on the day. I make a point of getting her different things for her
birthday. We've also got nephews with Dec. 24, Dec 25, and Jan 1 birthdays.
Tia
Leslie Lechner
My birthday and sons birthday is Dec 20. 5 days before Christmas and a
shared occasion. We make an ENORMOUS deal of his birthday all day
long, getting excited about it the day before and making the cake then
too. We celebrate my birthday with dinner out (although we both get
the birthday song and a free desert each).
We keep all of the balloons on the floor and streamers up until Dec.
22. That morning we take them down and start getting all excited about
Christmas.
For us, birthdays are a big thing. We make Christmas more of a day
off, family rest and fun day and don't do many gifts- usually just a
few big or one expensive gift. We make birthdays about the person and
how special they are and how blessed we are to have that person in our
lives and Christmas is more family and a celebration of our faith as
well.
So to sum up- lots of gifts or surprises on the birthday and fewer on
Christmas.
I hope that this helps,
Leslie
shared occasion. We make an ENORMOUS deal of his birthday all day
long, getting excited about it the day before and making the cake then
too. We celebrate my birthday with dinner out (although we both get
the birthday song and a free desert each).
We keep all of the balloons on the floor and streamers up until Dec.
22. That morning we take them down and start getting all excited about
Christmas.
For us, birthdays are a big thing. We make Christmas more of a day
off, family rest and fun day and don't do many gifts- usually just a
few big or one expensive gift. We make birthdays about the person and
how special they are and how blessed we are to have that person in our
lives and Christmas is more family and a celebration of our faith as
well.
So to sum up- lots of gifts or surprises on the birthday and fewer on
Christmas.
I hope that this helps,
Leslie
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>
Kelli Traaseth
Yes!
I'm back and going through mail, I'm sure everyone was busy with holidays and all.
We had a great holiday and on Monday we got to Two Towers, finally!! Now I'm sifting through the books, making sense of all. Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to Helm's Deep in the book?? I had to ask, I'm dying to know, can't find it.
I've missed you all, feels good to be back in the saddle again. Even if it is wood. <g> although I'd rather be riding Shadowfax, or Hasufel, or Arod. (that will get all of you looking through your LOTR books!
I'm in a LOTR fog right now, sorry.
Kelli
Robyn Carter <rcarter@...> wrote:Hiya, all:
Just wanted to say I'm still here, recuperating from the holidays.
Not much to say (rare moment), but definitely lurking.
Robyn
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I'm back and going through mail, I'm sure everyone was busy with holidays and all.
We had a great holiday and on Monday we got to Two Towers, finally!! Now I'm sifting through the books, making sense of all. Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to Helm's Deep in the book?? I had to ask, I'm dying to know, can't find it.
I've missed you all, feels good to be back in the saddle again. Even if it is wood. <g> although I'd rather be riding Shadowfax, or Hasufel, or Arod. (that will get all of you looking through your LOTR books!
I'm in a LOTR fog right now, sorry.
Kelli
Robyn Carter <rcarter@...> wrote:Hiya, all:
Just wanted to say I'm still here, recuperating from the holidays.
Not much to say (rare moment), but definitely lurking.
Robyn
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In a message dated 1/1/03 7:31:58 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to
Helm's Deep in the book?? >>
No.
Hurons do. The "tree cattle" gather outside, and the orcs who run away run
into that mysterious forest, like a roach hotel: they check in, but they
don't check out.
Sandra
<< Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to
Helm's Deep in the book?? >>
No.
Hurons do. The "tree cattle" gather outside, and the orcs who run away run
into that mysterious forest, like a roach hotel: they check in, but they
don't check out.
Sandra
Kelli Traaseth
Thanks Sandra, thought you'd know, that's kind-of a big part of the movie, I'm surprised they take those kind-of liberties. Got me really depressed. Thought I missed something when I read it.
These books are amazing, I had never read them through and am doing so right now. Tolkien was incredible! The history and the details he had to have come up with, the 4 CD pack we got is awesome too, little bit about Tolkien and how he came up with some of it. We've watched 2 of the appendicies and this afternoon we're going to watch the other 2. Then its onto the commentaried version of the film.
I can't believe I didn't read this when I was younger, Alec, 9yr son, has attempted reading it but its a bit above him. He reads more and more tho' as he watches more and more.
Leads to great conversations, in the appendicies it talks about the maker of the armour, really cool.
Also just found Ian McKlellan's web site and it has some great pics of them when they were filming. Fun!
Kelli
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/1/03 7:31:58 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to
Helm's Deep in the book?? >>
No.
Hurons do. The "tree cattle" gather outside, and the orcs who run away run
into that mysterious forest, like a roach hotel: they check in, but they
don't check out.
Sandra
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These books are amazing, I had never read them through and am doing so right now. Tolkien was incredible! The history and the details he had to have come up with, the 4 CD pack we got is awesome too, little bit about Tolkien and how he came up with some of it. We've watched 2 of the appendicies and this afternoon we're going to watch the other 2. Then its onto the commentaried version of the film.
I can't believe I didn't read this when I was younger, Alec, 9yr son, has attempted reading it but its a bit above him. He reads more and more tho' as he watches more and more.
Leads to great conversations, in the appendicies it talks about the maker of the armour, really cool.
Also just found Ian McKlellan's web site and it has some great pics of them when they were filming. Fun!
Kelli
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/1/03 7:31:58 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to
Helm's Deep in the book?? >>
No.
Hurons do. The "tree cattle" gather outside, and the orcs who run away run
into that mysterious forest, like a roach hotel: they check in, but they
don't check out.
Sandra
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Kelli Traaseth
Oops,
**4 CD pack **
I meant 4 DVD pack, I'm showing my age, the whole DVD thing is still quite foreign to me.
Kelli
Kelli Traaseth <kellitraas@...> wrote:
Thanks Sandra, thought you'd know, that's kind-of a big part of the movie, I'm surprised they take those kind-of liberties. Got me really depressed. Thought I missed something when I read it.
These books are amazing, I had never read them through and am doing so right now. Tolkien was incredible! The history and the details he had to have come up with, the 4 CD pack we got is awesome too, little bit about Tolkien and how he came up with some of it. We've watched 2 of the appendicies and this afternoon we're going to watch the other 2. Then its onto the commentaried version of the film.
I can't believe I didn't read this when I was younger, Alec, 9yr son, has attempted reading it but its a bit above him. He reads more and more tho' as he watches more and more.
Leads to great conversations, in the appendicies it talks about the maker of the armour, really cool.
Also just found Ian McKlellan's web site and it has some great pics of them when they were filming. Fun!
Kelli
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/1/03 7:31:58 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to
Helm's Deep in the book?? >>
No.
Hurons do. The "tree cattle" gather outside, and the orcs who run away run
into that mysterious forest, like a roach hotel: they check in, but they
don't check out.
Sandra
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**4 CD pack **
I meant 4 DVD pack, I'm showing my age, the whole DVD thing is still quite foreign to me.
Kelli
Kelli Traaseth <kellitraas@...> wrote:
Thanks Sandra, thought you'd know, that's kind-of a big part of the movie, I'm surprised they take those kind-of liberties. Got me really depressed. Thought I missed something when I read it.
These books are amazing, I had never read them through and am doing so right now. Tolkien was incredible! The history and the details he had to have come up with, the 4 CD pack we got is awesome too, little bit about Tolkien and how he came up with some of it. We've watched 2 of the appendicies and this afternoon we're going to watch the other 2. Then its onto the commentaried version of the film.
I can't believe I didn't read this when I was younger, Alec, 9yr son, has attempted reading it but its a bit above him. He reads more and more tho' as he watches more and more.
Leads to great conversations, in the appendicies it talks about the maker of the armour, really cool.
Also just found Ian McKlellan's web site and it has some great pics of them when they were filming. Fun!
Kelli
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/1/03 7:31:58 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< Ok I know this might be off subject, but do the elves actually come to
Helm's Deep in the book?? >>
No.
Hurons do. The "tree cattle" gather outside, and the orcs who run away run
into that mysterious forest, like a roach hotel: they check in, but they
don't check out.
Sandra
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In a message dated 1/1/03 10:40:49 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< Also just found Ian McKlellan's web site and it has some great pics of
them when they were filming. Fun! >>
YES! His journal entries with snapshots are GREAT!! I was glad when I came
across those.
<<**4 CD pack **
I meant 4 DVD pack, I'm showing my age, >>
Oh, I say "CD" all the time and my kids calmly say "DVD" and I
dispassionately say "whatever."
They figure I'll die before I get it.
I figure I don't care.
If they didn't want them to be called the same thing, why did they make them
LOOK the same way? And putting them in different sized plastic cases doesn't
change anything. And the fact that some are DVD-ROM things AND music (CD)
AND can be played in a DVD player does NOT help me get it straight.
Here's how I came to feel better about Faramir's loss of integrity (and
Frodo's, there for a minute) at the hands of Peter Jackson & company:
The Bible spawned and supports LOTS of different denominations of
Christianity. The old testament spawned and supported Judaism, Islam and
Christianity. They all pick and choose and translate and focus in their own
ways. It's all the same book, in a real way.
So I figure I can worship Tolkien's vision of Faramir but still go to Peter
Jackson's church on special occasions.
Sandra
<< Also just found Ian McKlellan's web site and it has some great pics of
them when they were filming. Fun! >>
YES! His journal entries with snapshots are GREAT!! I was glad when I came
across those.
<<**4 CD pack **
I meant 4 DVD pack, I'm showing my age, >>
Oh, I say "CD" all the time and my kids calmly say "DVD" and I
dispassionately say "whatever."
They figure I'll die before I get it.
I figure I don't care.
If they didn't want them to be called the same thing, why did they make them
LOOK the same way? And putting them in different sized plastic cases doesn't
change anything. And the fact that some are DVD-ROM things AND music (CD)
AND can be played in a DVD player does NOT help me get it straight.
Here's how I came to feel better about Faramir's loss of integrity (and
Frodo's, there for a minute) at the hands of Peter Jackson & company:
The Bible spawned and supports LOTS of different denominations of
Christianity. The old testament spawned and supported Judaism, Islam and
Christianity. They all pick and choose and translate and focus in their own
ways. It's all the same book, in a real way.
So I figure I can worship Tolkien's vision of Faramir but still go to Peter
Jackson's church on special occasions.
Sandra
the_clevengers <[email protected]>
--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
in the Fellowship. I didn't mind so much the stuff they changed in
the Fellowship, leaving out Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Wights, which
didn't have much impact on the story in the first place, and adding
the great horse chase scene with Arwyn (it was nice to have at least
one woman doing some action in the movie as there isn't much in the
book).
But the 2nd movie seemed to change a lot more things, and for less
clear reasons. I was really surprised to see them leave the whole
Ent/Huron part out of the Helm's Deep scene, and I have no idea why
they would do that. Also can't imagine why they cast Eowyn as such a
waif. Have to wait until the Director's cut DVD with voice-over to
see why, I guess.
Geographic "Behind the Movie" special as well. It's not so much about
the making of the movie, but more about Tolkien's childhood and young
adulthood and the things that shaped his vision of the story. It has
a fascinating part about his interest in the Tolovana, a largely
spoken/song history of a people from the far north of Finland (I
think, if my memory serves). Also a fair bit about his participation
in WW1 and how that influenced him (some of the earliest bits of the
Hobbit/LOTR world were written by him in the trenches). Netflix has
this DVD, and some local movie rental places do as well.
the Hobbit a year earlier. That was a perfect time to read it, as age
11/12 you still have that magical belief, but you're poised on the
edge of teenage passionate involvement with things. I remember my two
best friends and I would ride our horses far into the woods and
pretend to be three elven queens. We would gallop through the forests
with the dark forces in imaginary chase behind us. Maybe that's why I
love that chase scene with Arwyn so much, come to think of it.
We're reading LOTR right now (I'm reading out loud to the kids), and
enjoying it all over again. And I agree, that 4-disk set is great!
The kids have been fascinated with all the detail on how such a
monumental piece of fantasy was created on screen.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Sandra, thought you'd know, that'sThere's several such liberties in the Two Towers, even more so than
> kind-of a big part of the movie, I'm surprised
> they take those kind-of liberties. Got me really
> depressed. Thought I missed something when I read it.
in the Fellowship. I didn't mind so much the stuff they changed in
the Fellowship, leaving out Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Wights, which
didn't have much impact on the story in the first place, and adding
the great horse chase scene with Arwyn (it was nice to have at least
one woman doing some action in the movie as there isn't much in the
book).
But the 2nd movie seemed to change a lot more things, and for less
clear reasons. I was really surprised to see them leave the whole
Ent/Huron part out of the Helm's Deep scene, and I have no idea why
they would do that. Also can't imagine why they cast Eowyn as such a
waif. Have to wait until the Director's cut DVD with voice-over to
see why, I guess.
> These books are amazing,If you like the 4 CD set, I'd also recommend finding the National
> I had never read them through and am
> doing so right now. Tolkien was incredible!
> The history and the details he had to have
> come up with, the 4 CD pack we got is awesome too,
Geographic "Behind the Movie" special as well. It's not so much about
the making of the movie, but more about Tolkien's childhood and young
adulthood and the things that shaped his vision of the story. It has
a fascinating part about his interest in the Tolovana, a largely
spoken/song history of a people from the far north of Finland (I
think, if my memory serves). Also a fair bit about his participation
in WW1 and how that influenced him (some of the earliest bits of the
Hobbit/LOTR world were written by him in the trenches). Netflix has
this DVD, and some local movie rental places do as well.
> I can't believe I didn't read this when I wasI remember reading the trilogy starting at age 11, I think I had read
> younger, Alec, 9yr son, has attempted reading
> it but its a bit above him. He reads more and
> more tho' as he watches more and more.
the Hobbit a year earlier. That was a perfect time to read it, as age
11/12 you still have that magical belief, but you're poised on the
edge of teenage passionate involvement with things. I remember my two
best friends and I would ride our horses far into the woods and
pretend to be three elven queens. We would gallop through the forests
with the dark forces in imaginary chase behind us. Maybe that's why I
love that chase scene with Arwyn so much, come to think of it.
We're reading LOTR right now (I'm reading out loud to the kids), and
enjoying it all over again. And I agree, that 4-disk set is great!
The kids have been fascinated with all the detail on how such a
monumental piece of fantasy was created on screen.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
Kelli Traaseth
Glad I'm not the only adult out there that is fascinated with the whole thing!!
Some people kind-of look at me like, what? Oh well.
Kelli
"the_clevengers <diamondair@...>" <diamondair@...> wrote:--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
in the Fellowship. I didn't mind so much the stuff they changed in
the Fellowship, leaving out Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Wights, which
didn't have much impact on the story in the first place, and adding
the great horse chase scene with Arwyn (it was nice to have at least
one woman doing some action in the movie as there isn't much in the
book).
But the 2nd movie seemed to change a lot more things, and for less
clear reasons. I was really surprised to see them leave the whole
Ent/Huron part out of the Helm's Deep scene, and I have no idea why
they would do that. Also can't imagine why they cast Eowyn as such a
waif. Have to wait until the Director's cut DVD with voice-over to
see why, I guess.
Geographic "Behind the Movie" special as well. It's not so much about
the making of the movie, but more about Tolkien's childhood and young
adulthood and the things that shaped his vision of the story. It has
a fascinating part about his interest in the Tolovana, a largely
spoken/song history of a people from the far north of Finland (I
think, if my memory serves). Also a fair bit about his participation
in WW1 and how that influenced him (some of the earliest bits of the
Hobbit/LOTR world were written by him in the trenches). Netflix has
this DVD, and some local movie rental places do as well.
the Hobbit a year earlier. That was a perfect time to read it, as age
11/12 you still have that magical belief, but you're poised on the
edge of teenage passionate involvement with things. I remember my two
best friends and I would ride our horses far into the woods and
pretend to be three elven queens. We would gallop through the forests
with the dark forces in imaginary chase behind us. Maybe that's why I
love that chase scene with Arwyn so much, come to think of it.
We're reading LOTR right now (I'm reading out loud to the kids), and
enjoying it all over again. And I agree, that 4-disk set is great!
The kids have been fascinated with all the detail on how such a
monumental piece of fantasy was created on screen.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
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Some people kind-of look at me like, what? Oh well.
Kelli
"the_clevengers <diamondair@...>" <diamondair@...> wrote:--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
--- In [email protected], Kelli Traaseth
<kellitraas@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Sandra, thought you'd know, that'sThere's several such liberties in the Two Towers, even more so than
> kind-of a big part of the movie, I'm surprised
> they take those kind-of liberties. Got me really
> depressed. Thought I missed something when I read it.
in the Fellowship. I didn't mind so much the stuff they changed in
the Fellowship, leaving out Tom Bombadil and the Barrow Wights, which
didn't have much impact on the story in the first place, and adding
the great horse chase scene with Arwyn (it was nice to have at least
one woman doing some action in the movie as there isn't much in the
book).
But the 2nd movie seemed to change a lot more things, and for less
clear reasons. I was really surprised to see them leave the whole
Ent/Huron part out of the Helm's Deep scene, and I have no idea why
they would do that. Also can't imagine why they cast Eowyn as such a
waif. Have to wait until the Director's cut DVD with voice-over to
see why, I guess.
> These books are amazing,If you like the 4 CD set, I'd also recommend finding the National
> I had never read them through and am
> doing so right now. Tolkien was incredible!
> The history and the details he had to have
> come up with, the 4 CD pack we got is awesome too,
Geographic "Behind the Movie" special as well. It's not so much about
the making of the movie, but more about Tolkien's childhood and young
adulthood and the things that shaped his vision of the story. It has
a fascinating part about his interest in the Tolovana, a largely
spoken/song history of a people from the far north of Finland (I
think, if my memory serves). Also a fair bit about his participation
in WW1 and how that influenced him (some of the earliest bits of the
Hobbit/LOTR world were written by him in the trenches). Netflix has
this DVD, and some local movie rental places do as well.
> I can't believe I didn't read this when I wasI remember reading the trilogy starting at age 11, I think I had read
> younger, Alec, 9yr son, has attempted reading
> it but its a bit above him. He reads more and
> more tho' as he watches more and more.
the Hobbit a year earlier. That was a perfect time to read it, as age
11/12 you still have that magical belief, but you're poised on the
edge of teenage passionate involvement with things. I remember my two
best friends and I would ride our horses far into the woods and
pretend to be three elven queens. We would gallop through the forests
with the dark forces in imaginary chase behind us. Maybe that's why I
love that chase scene with Arwyn so much, come to think of it.
We're reading LOTR right now (I'm reading out loud to the kids), and
enjoying it all over again. And I agree, that 4-disk set is great!
The kids have been fascinated with all the detail on how such a
monumental piece of fantasy was created on screen.
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
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In a message dated 1/2/03 11:59:03 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< So I figure I can worship Tolkien's vision of Faramir but still go to
Peter
Jackson's church on special occasions. >>
That's a good way to see it!! I just figure I enjoy the books and the movies
as two separate but related bits of entertainment, to try and compare them
ruins it for me because there were so many liberties taken.
I keep going "but THAT didn't happen" and then I have to remind myself that
it's the MOVIE and just enjoy it.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
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[email protected] writes:
<< So I figure I can worship Tolkien's vision of Faramir but still go to
Peter
Jackson's church on special occasions. >>
That's a good way to see it!! I just figure I enjoy the books and the movies
as two separate but related bits of entertainment, to try and compare them
ruins it for me because there were so many liberties taken.
I keep going "but THAT didn't happen" and then I have to remind myself that
it's the MOVIE and just enjoy it.
Ren
"The world's much smaller than you think. Made up of two kinds of
people--simple and complicated.....The simple ones are contented. The
complicated ones aren't."
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Lisa Anselmo <[email protected]>
We are also new fans of LOTR and Tolkien. A friend of ours
bought Nick "The Fellowship of the Ring" video, which lead to
numerous books and guides based on the movies. Nick then
listened to the BBC audio "The Two Towers", and we saw the
movie Christmas day. We plan on seeing it again. We just
bought the book "Fellowship of the Ring", and are very anxious to
get started on that. It is such a fabulous story, and has led to so
many interesting discussions. Even my dh, who was reluctant to
watch the movie, has become a big fan.
I ran into some opposition when friends found out how
passionately Nick loves the story. They believe that he is too
young (8) to fully appreciate the books, and that he should not be
exposed to them at all until he is "much older"; same goes for
Shakespeare. The strongest opposition came from the woman
who gave him the video in the first place. Apparently we should
be sticking with "Flat Stanley' and "Mooch the Messy". As they say
here in NY, forgeddaboutit...
As for Alan Rickman, we just saw HP 2, and he looked dreadful.
Don't get me wrong, I still love him, he still has a sexy voice, but
let's hope he looks a little less, um, puffed up in the next
installment.
Lisa
bought Nick "The Fellowship of the Ring" video, which lead to
numerous books and guides based on the movies. Nick then
listened to the BBC audio "The Two Towers", and we saw the
movie Christmas day. We plan on seeing it again. We just
bought the book "Fellowship of the Ring", and are very anxious to
get started on that. It is such a fabulous story, and has led to so
many interesting discussions. Even my dh, who was reluctant to
watch the movie, has become a big fan.
I ran into some opposition when friends found out how
passionately Nick loves the story. They believe that he is too
young (8) to fully appreciate the books, and that he should not be
exposed to them at all until he is "much older"; same goes for
Shakespeare. The strongest opposition came from the woman
who gave him the video in the first place. Apparently we should
be sticking with "Flat Stanley' and "Mooch the Messy". As they say
here in NY, forgeddaboutit...
As for Alan Rickman, we just saw HP 2, and he looked dreadful.
Don't get me wrong, I still love him, he still has a sexy voice, but
let's hope he looks a little less, um, puffed up in the next
installment.
Lisa
Betsy
**I ran into some opposition when friends found out how
passionately Nick loves the story. They believe that he is too
young (8) to fully appreciate the books, and that he should not be
exposed to them at all until he is "much older"; same goes for
Shakespeare.**
I don't agree. My dad read all the Tolkien books aloud to us when my
brother was only 6. (I was eight.)
Later, I first read The Hobbit to myself when I was 11 and lying in a
hammock on a warm day at camp. It was great, but it was especially
great because it was hauntingly familiar.
I think the stories that you hear when you are really young sink in
deeply and become a part of your soul. Of course Shakespeare and
Tolkien would be great choices for that.
Betsy
passionately Nick loves the story. They believe that he is too
young (8) to fully appreciate the books, and that he should not be
exposed to them at all until he is "much older"; same goes for
Shakespeare.**
I don't agree. My dad read all the Tolkien books aloud to us when my
brother was only 6. (I was eight.)
Later, I first read The Hobbit to myself when I was 11 and lying in a
hammock on a warm day at camp. It was great, but it was especially
great because it was hauntingly familiar.
I think the stories that you hear when you are really young sink in
deeply and become a part of your soul. Of course Shakespeare and
Tolkien would be great choices for that.
Betsy
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/2/03 6:04:07 PM, ecsamhill@... writes:
<< I think the stories that you hear when you are really young sink in
deeply and become a part of your soul. >>
Damn me and my black Nancy Drew soul.
Oh. HEAR! Fairy tales.
What sticks with me from early years are fairy tales, read to me, or I read,
or saw on TV (Shirley Temple acting out stories, always as the female
teenaged lead, although she must've been 28 or 30 whatever by then), or in
reading books at school, or library books.
Sandra
<< I think the stories that you hear when you are really young sink in
deeply and become a part of your soul. >>
Damn me and my black Nancy Drew soul.
Oh. HEAR! Fairy tales.
What sticks with me from early years are fairy tales, read to me, or I read,
or saw on TV (Shirley Temple acting out stories, always as the female
teenaged lead, although she must've been 28 or 30 whatever by then), or in
reading books at school, or library books.
Sandra
Betsy
**Damn me and my black Nancy Drew soul.**
I read every single one of the Nancy Drew books that was in print, up
until I was twelves. So if there's a special circle in hell for readers
of formulaic fiction, uh, save me a seat!
(My son's current read aloud taste is Starfleet Academy stories about
the early days of Worf, Geordie and Capt. Janeway. I may be doubly
damned. <g>)
Betsy
I read every single one of the Nancy Drew books that was in print, up
until I was twelves. So if there's a special circle in hell for readers
of formulaic fiction, uh, save me a seat!
(My son's current read aloud taste is Starfleet Academy stories about
the early days of Worf, Geordie and Capt. Janeway. I may be doubly
damned. <g>)
Betsy
Kelli Traaseth
I agree with Betsy, if the child is interested in it and is willing to listen.....
I had a teacher in 4th grade who was totally into Tolkien and had us reading The Hobbit. It was very difficult at the time, I remember this, but I also remember that it was the one thing that kept my interest. Everything else seemed sooo boring. I am definitely glad she introduced it to us, even tho' I didn't do that well on the tests, when I read it myself I missed alot, yet it still seaped into me. And we got to watch the cartoon and dissect the plot and characters with that too.
I really wish I would have had a class in middle school or high school that would have assigned LOTR, I would have loved it, oh well, I can love it now.
Kelli
Betsy <ecsamhill@...> wrote:
**I ran into some opposition when friends found out how
passionately Nick loves the story. They believe that he is too
young (8) to fully appreciate the books, and that he should not be
exposed to them at all until he is "much older"; same goes for
Shakespeare.**
I don't agree. My dad read all the Tolkien books aloud to us when my
brother was only 6. (I was eight.)
Later, I first read The Hobbit to myself when I was 11 and lying in a
hammock on a warm day at camp. It was great, but it was especially
great because it was hauntingly familiar.
I think the stories that you hear when you are really young sink in
deeply and become a part of your soul. Of course Shakespeare and
Tolkien would be great choices for that.
Betsy
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I had a teacher in 4th grade who was totally into Tolkien and had us reading The Hobbit. It was very difficult at the time, I remember this, but I also remember that it was the one thing that kept my interest. Everything else seemed sooo boring. I am definitely glad she introduced it to us, even tho' I didn't do that well on the tests, when I read it myself I missed alot, yet it still seaped into me. And we got to watch the cartoon and dissect the plot and characters with that too.
I really wish I would have had a class in middle school or high school that would have assigned LOTR, I would have loved it, oh well, I can love it now.
Kelli
Betsy <ecsamhill@...> wrote:
**I ran into some opposition when friends found out how
passionately Nick loves the story. They believe that he is too
young (8) to fully appreciate the books, and that he should not be
exposed to them at all until he is "much older"; same goes for
Shakespeare.**
I don't agree. My dad read all the Tolkien books aloud to us when my
brother was only 6. (I was eight.)
Later, I first read The Hobbit to myself when I was 11 and lying in a
hammock on a warm day at camp. It was great, but it was especially
great because it was hauntingly familiar.
I think the stories that you hear when you are really young sink in
deeply and become a part of your soul. Of course Shakespeare and
Tolkien would be great choices for that.
Betsy
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marji
At 08:09 1/3/03 -0800, Kelli wrote:
Your message reminded me of when I was in high school. In the 10th grade I
think it was we read Tennyson's Idylls of the King. It was dry stuff with
language that shot straight over my head. But, I had a GREAT teacher. She
was really animated and fun and pointed stuff out and explored some of the
denser language with us. The result was that I actually enjoyed that
class. In fact, I never even cut that class (just all the others).
I'm grateful to that teacher for showing me the possibilities where
literature is concerned. It's interesting: Liam (8yo son) loves to read
at night but definitely lobbies to have me do the reading rather than his
dad. I think it's because I try to dramatize the reading (change my voice
for the different characters, etc.), and dh just plain reads. I have Mrs.
Costello to thank for that. I remember the day she introduced
"unscrupulous" as a vocabulary word. She always presented vocabulary words
in some funny way; she mimed or acted out the different parts of the word
so we would remember it. The -pu- part was the funniest of all. In
retrospect, I think she probably could see how goofy working on vocabulary
words really was.
Oh well, enough of that! Happy New Year, everyone!!
Marji
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>I agree with Betsy, if the child is interested in it and is willing toHi, Kelli!
>listen.....
>
>I had a teacher in 4th grade who was totally into Tolkien and had us
>reading The Hobbit. It was very difficult at the time, I remember
>this, but I also remember that it was the one thing that kept my
>interest. Everything else seemed sooo boring. I am definitely glad
>she introduced it to us, even tho' I didn't do that well on the
>tests, when I read it myself I missed alot, yet it still seaped into
>me. And we got to watch the cartoon and dissect the plot and characters
>with that too.
>
>I really wish I would have had a class in middle school or high school
>that would have assigned LOTR, I would have loved it, oh well, I can
>love it now.
>
>Kelli
Your message reminded me of when I was in high school. In the 10th grade I
think it was we read Tennyson's Idylls of the King. It was dry stuff with
language that shot straight over my head. But, I had a GREAT teacher. She
was really animated and fun and pointed stuff out and explored some of the
denser language with us. The result was that I actually enjoyed that
class. In fact, I never even cut that class (just all the others).
I'm grateful to that teacher for showing me the possibilities where
literature is concerned. It's interesting: Liam (8yo son) loves to read
at night but definitely lobbies to have me do the reading rather than his
dad. I think it's because I try to dramatize the reading (change my voice
for the different characters, etc.), and dh just plain reads. I have Mrs.
Costello to thank for that. I remember the day she introduced
"unscrupulous" as a vocabulary word. She always presented vocabulary words
in some funny way; she mimed or acted out the different parts of the word
so we would remember it. The -pu- part was the funniest of all. In
retrospect, I think she probably could see how goofy working on vocabulary
words really was.
Oh well, enough of that! Happy New Year, everyone!!
Marji
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