Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] knowing what is going on in schools Re Susan
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Susan,
I think most of us understood your concern with "being aware of what is going
on in school" I know I certainly didnt interpret that as you being involved
or worried about what your PS system does. You already clarified what you
said, I don't know why others keep insisting that "being aware" means
anything more than just that.. an awareness. Don't discount your concerns
or feel like you have to defend them. They are real and we all have to find
ways to deal with them.
Teresa
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I think most of us understood your concern with "being aware of what is going
on in school" I know I certainly didnt interpret that as you being involved
or worried about what your PS system does. You already clarified what you
said, I don't know why others keep insisting that "being aware" means
anything more than just that.. an awareness. Don't discount your concerns
or feel like you have to defend them. They are real and we all have to find
ways to deal with them.
Teresa
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susan marie
Hi Teresa,
Thanks. I think this discussion has included so many people, and has had
a few different directions. I do agree with the ones who said that in
dealing with state regs, the key is to unschool, and find a way to
comply without compromising how you unschool. That's good, imho. ( btw,
I was two days behind on email, and prob should have read all of it
instead of responding as I went. :-) I guess I get a little impatient,
or invovled and want to jump in.)
The part about whether or not it compromises unschooling to even be
aware of the schools -- that means different things to different people,
apparantly. Some took that to mean knowing exactly what was actually
being taught, scope and sequence and all that. To me, it's more of an
interest in the culture of schools, and how it affects the people caught
up in it. I look at homeschoolers, esp. unschoolers, and think how great
it is. Then I look at public schools, and think, there must be a better
way. But while we can, one family at a time, step away from the schools,
how does an entire culture step away? What about all those kids there?
But then, I guess my interest in, concern for, the schools and who's in
them really isn't part of unschooling. The other side is, my kids bump
into ps kids all the time, so we do bump into the ps culture, in a way.
My kids ask lots of questions, and notice the difference in how kids
interact.
The problem with this discussion, is it was actually a couple of
different discussions under one header. I wasn't trying to defend my
concerns, actually. I like to feel like I was clear, and if someone
didn't get what I said, I look at it to see if I could have explained
myself more clearly. Also, I was sort of enjoying this discussion,
because it brought out a lot of different viewpoints, and I do think the
point (Sandra, I think?) about not compromising what you're doing to fit
state regs is very important. Also, if you can't unschool in your state,
then what? A few times I saw moving suggested. I do think this is an
important issue --- why should someone in a country supposedly about
freedom and the individual have to move? There is something seriously
wrong if the government is telling us how to raise our children, and
even if we don't live in that state, I do think it is everyone's
concern. Another state could look at that and think it's a good idea, or
no one objects, or any other excuse to further curb our freedoms.
sorry, rambling again. :-)
thanks for the note,
peace,
susan
Thanks. I think this discussion has included so many people, and has had
a few different directions. I do agree with the ones who said that in
dealing with state regs, the key is to unschool, and find a way to
comply without compromising how you unschool. That's good, imho. ( btw,
I was two days behind on email, and prob should have read all of it
instead of responding as I went. :-) I guess I get a little impatient,
or invovled and want to jump in.)
The part about whether or not it compromises unschooling to even be
aware of the schools -- that means different things to different people,
apparantly. Some took that to mean knowing exactly what was actually
being taught, scope and sequence and all that. To me, it's more of an
interest in the culture of schools, and how it affects the people caught
up in it. I look at homeschoolers, esp. unschoolers, and think how great
it is. Then I look at public schools, and think, there must be a better
way. But while we can, one family at a time, step away from the schools,
how does an entire culture step away? What about all those kids there?
But then, I guess my interest in, concern for, the schools and who's in
them really isn't part of unschooling. The other side is, my kids bump
into ps kids all the time, so we do bump into the ps culture, in a way.
My kids ask lots of questions, and notice the difference in how kids
interact.
The problem with this discussion, is it was actually a couple of
different discussions under one header. I wasn't trying to defend my
concerns, actually. I like to feel like I was clear, and if someone
didn't get what I said, I look at it to see if I could have explained
myself more clearly. Also, I was sort of enjoying this discussion,
because it brought out a lot of different viewpoints, and I do think the
point (Sandra, I think?) about not compromising what you're doing to fit
state regs is very important. Also, if you can't unschool in your state,
then what? A few times I saw moving suggested. I do think this is an
important issue --- why should someone in a country supposedly about
freedom and the individual have to move? There is something seriously
wrong if the government is telling us how to raise our children, and
even if we don't live in that state, I do think it is everyone's
concern. Another state could look at that and think it's a good idea, or
no one objects, or any other excuse to further curb our freedoms.
sorry, rambling again. :-)
thanks for the note,
peace,
susan
On Thursday, December 19, 2002, at 08:38 AM, grlynbl@... wrote:
> Susan,
>
> I think most of us understood your concern with "being aware of what is
> going
> on in school" I know I certainly didnt interpret that as you being
> involved
> or worried about what your PS system does. You already clarified what
> you
> said, I don't know why others keep insisting that "being aware" means
> anything more than just that.. an awareness. Don't discount your
> concerns
> or feel like you have to defend them. They are real and we all have to
> find
> ways to deal with them.
>
> Teresa
>
>
>
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>
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peace,
Susan
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change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
- Margaret Mead
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