Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] kids and behaviour

Yol, Vishnu & Shanti

18 Dec 2002, at 4:42pm

I have one word of advice for you: Homeopathy. Works wonders. Your son's temper is beyond his *will* at this point. You have great homeopathic resources in VA. Let me know if you need any more info.

Yol

> Looking for some advice on moderating a child's behaviour. My
> youngest has a temper (must be the red hair) and loses it quite
> often. When he does he will lash our at other kids if they approach
> him and adults too and call people who try and speak to him 'f****
> bastards'
> At home I've fiound the only thing that works is to ignore him until
> he comes out of the temper. He can't be reasoned with, or jollied
> out of it or even threatened (which I treid in the past). Punishment
> and consequences mean nothing while his temper lasts.
> When it has passed we've discussed it many times and he
> promises to try better in the future. None of this is a problem at
> home.
> While we're out this is a different matter. One friend tried to jolly
> him out of a temper and he called her a name and tried to hit her.
> He hit another friends dog when the dog tried to pinch his dinner.
> We are finding that we're not welcome anywhere which is affecting
> my other kids and me. I feel we're going to be alone, stuck in the
> house like social pariahs.
> My friends use time out and sending kids to their room which I
> don't agree with personally but in their own house I would never say
> anything. While I tell him that his behaviour isn't acceptable I'm
> obviously not going to beat him and I feel uncomfortable dicsiplining
> him in a way I would not do so at home. I really don't want to be
> friendless until he matures enough to stop, like the other two did.
> In some ways it is a cultural thing too, peope at home would have
> ignored the behaviour or laughed it off as a stage some kids go
> through.
>
> Any advice in how to deal with a stubborn 7 yo would be
> apreciated. Before I have to leave Virginia ;-)
>
> Shyrley
>
> "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>
>

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Shyrley

18 Dec 2002, at 5:20pm

On 18 Dec 02, at 16:42, Yol, Vishnu & Shanti wrote:

> I have one word of advice for you: Homeopathy. Works wonders. Your
> son's temper is beyond his *will* at this point. You have great
> homeopathic resources in VA. Let me know if you need any more info.
>
> Yol
>

Wherabouts? I'm in NoVA.
We used homeopathy in the past when the docs thought he might
be autsitic cos he never spoke or smiled. It was like he wasn't 'in'

Two remedies later he was 'back'. And hasn't stopped talking since.

Shyrley

"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."

Yol, Vishnu & Shanti

18 Dec 2002, at 6:29pm

Great! You have already experienced the magic of homeopathy! He may be in need of some more at this point.

I apologize for my ignorance but where is NoVA?

Yol

> On 18 Dec 02, at 16:42, Yol, Vishnu & Shanti wrote:
>
> > I have one word of advice for you: Homeopathy. Works wonders. Your
> > son's temper is beyond his *will* at this point. You have great
> > homeopathic resources in VA. Let me know if you need any more info.
> >
> > Yol
> >
>
> Wherabouts? I'm in NoVA.
> We used homeopathy in the past when the docs thought he might
> be autsitic cos he never spoke or smiled. It was like he wasn't 'in'
>
> Two remedies later he was 'back'. And hasn't stopped talking since.
>
> Shyrley
>
> "You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."

Shyrley

18 Dec 2002, at 6:37pm

On 18 Dec 02, at 18:29, Yol, Vishnu & Shanti wrote:

> Great! You have already experienced the magic of homeopathy! He may be
> in need of some more at this point.
>
> I apologize for my ignorance but where is NoVA?
>
> Yol
>

North Virginia

I could call my homeopath back home and ask his advice.

Shyrley

"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."

Stephanie Elms

18 Dec 2002, at 10:17pm

Yol...I am also in Va and was thinking about looking into finding a homeopath for my
depression and for my son's hair twirling habit (he has been pulling his hair out
and has a small bald spot).

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Stephanie

>

[email protected]

18 Dec 2002, at 10:50pm

In a message dated 12/18/02 10:19:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
stephanie.elms@... writes:

> my son's hair twirling habit (he has been pulling his hair out
> and has a small bald spot).
>

Ethan did that for a while in the 2nd grade.. He just outgrew it. but it was
very disturbing. JP chews his shirt sleeve or collar. Hes riuns at least a
shirt a week

Teresa

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Stephanie Elms

18 Dec 2002, at 11:18pm

>
> Ethan did that for a while in the 2nd grade.. He just outgrew
> it. but it was
> very disturbing. JP chews his shirt sleeve or collar. Hes
> riuns at least a
> shirt a week

This is something he has done pretty much since he was 2 months old...
he used to reach up and twirl my hair while nursing. When anyone held him,
he would reach up and twirl the hair around their neck. When he was younger
it was always just twirling, either his or mine, usually when he wanted to
fall asleep. Since last spring though he has progressed to actually pulling
it out, had a huge bald spot (2 inches or so). We cut it really short over
the summer and that seemed to help but now he is back to pulling it out again.
He pulls at it without even thinking about it, kind of a nervous, calming habit.
We have tried lots of things, giving him alternatives, reminders etc. nothing
really seems to help much. Part of it is that he is not overly motivated to
stop. It is a way that he internalizes stress, I think, so I have been trying
to help him find other ways...progressive relaxation and such.

He also has a slight bit of eczema on his arms that went away this summer (I think)
that is back now, so maybe a skin problem? I really don't know. But he has
been doing this for about 6 years now and it seems to be progressing and getting worse.
I just feel like something is off and he needs something but I don't know what.

Stephanie E.

Yol, Vishnu & Shanti

18 Dec 2002, at 11:56pm

Great choice! Where in VA? If it's a small town, which is the largest city nearby?

Yol

Stephanie Elms wrote:

> Yol...I am also in Va and was thinking about looking into finding a homeopath for my
> depression and for my son's hair twirling habit (he has been pulling his hair out
> and has a small bald spot).
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Stephanie
> >
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Stephanie Elms

19 Dec 2002, at 12:26am

I live in northern virginia, outside of Washington DC. Annandale to be exact.
In Fairfax county. The larger areas around me are Springfield, Fairfax, and Falls Church.

Any tips on what to look for in a homeopath and what to expect would also be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks!

Stephanie E.

Yol, Vishnu & Shanti

19 Dec 2002, at 2:19am

In Washington, DC I found these practitioners:

Stephanie Becker, ND
4601 Connecticut Ave NW Ste 6
Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20008
Phone: (202)244-4545
Email: drsjbecker@... <mailto:drsjbecker@...>

Brendan Feeley, MA ND
3801 Northampton St NW #2
Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20015
Phone: (202)537-0771 Fax: (202)537-0778

Ioana Razi, MD
3537 R St NW
Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20007-2327
Phone: (202)333-1774 Fax: (202)333-4992

Andrea Sullivan, PhD ND DHANP
4601 Connecticut Ave NW Ste 6
Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20008
Phone: (202)244-4545 Fax: (202)362-5010

I do not know any of these people personally, so you'd have to find out
more about each by calling and asking the following questions:
Does the practitioner specialize in homeopathy? Does the practitioner
use only classical homeopathy and constitutional treatment? How long
has the practitioner actively been using homeopathy?

Your best choice is the one that specializes in classical homeopathy and
treats constitutionally. Some NDs mix and match things and I would not
recommend them if that's the case. When they start talking about
nutrition and supplements and stuff like that, forget it. Next... A real
homeopath uses only homeopathy and does not try to sell you anything else.

A homeopathic consultation takes about 1 to 1-and-a-half hours and is
basically like an informal interview where you express your ailments,
concerns and perceptions. The homeopath usually asks questions that
cover physical, emotional and mental aspects, as well as other features
of your personality (cravings, dreams, habits, etc.), along with your
family's and your medical history and such. From the information s/he
gathers s/he can find a remedy similar to what s/he perceives needs to
be cured. There is no judgement whatsoever, it's more like finding clues
to understand how you perceive the world as an individual. The
homeopathic interview is therapeutic in itself.

Then s/he gives you the remedy of choice and you come to the next
follow-up about 3 to 4 weeks later.

Many things can happen after you take a constitutional remedy. It's a
little bit like cleaning house... things shift, past emotions can come
up, past physical symptoms come back temporarily, and anything that
hasn't been resolved properly shows up for a brief period and gets
finally resolved. Depending on the particular case and sensitivity of
the person, there are subtle to major changes at all levels.

Homeopathy is based on the premise that your own vital force knows what
is best for you. And the remedy's goal is to gently stimulate your own
vital force so that it can restore harmony in te best possible way.

I hope this helps. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any
questions.

Regards,

Yol

Stephanie Elms wrote:

>I live in northern virginia, outside of Washington DC. Annandale to be exact.
>In Fairfax county. The larger areas around me are Springfield, Fairfax, and Falls Church.
>
>Any tips on what to look for in a homeopath and what to expect would also be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Stephanie E.
>
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Yol, Vishnu & Shanti

19 Dec 2002, at 2:24am

Oops.. I meant to send this privately. I hope the *unscholing police*
won't come scold me again... ;-)

Yol

Yol, Vishnu & Shanti wrote:

>In Washington, DC I found these practitioners:
>
>Stephanie Becker, ND
>4601 Connecticut Ave NW Ste 6
>Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20008
>Phone: (202)244-4545
>Email: drsjbecker@... <mailto:drsjbecker@...>
>
>Brendan Feeley, MA ND
>3801 Northampton St NW #2
>Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20015
>Phone: (202)537-0771 Fax: (202)537-0778
>
>Ioana Razi, MD
>3537 R St NW
>Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20007-2327
>Phone: (202)333-1774 Fax: (202)333-4992
>
>Andrea Sullivan, PhD ND DHANP
>4601 Connecticut Ave NW Ste 6
>Washington, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 20008
>Phone: (202)244-4545 Fax: (202)362-5010
>
>I do not know any of these people personally, so you'd have to find out
>more about each by calling and asking the following questions:
>Does the practitioner specialize in homeopathy? Does the practitioner
>use only classical homeopathy and constitutional treatment? How long
>has the practitioner actively been using homeopathy?
>
>Your best choice is the one that specializes in classical homeopathy and
>treats constitutionally. Some NDs mix and match things and I would not
>recommend them if that's the case. When they start talking about
>nutrition and supplements and stuff like that, forget it. Next... A real
>homeopath uses only homeopathy and does not try to sell you anything else.
>
>A homeopathic consultation takes about 1 to 1-and-a-half hours and is
>basically like an informal interview where you express your ailments,
>concerns and perceptions. The homeopath usually asks questions that
>cover physical, emotional and mental aspects, as well as other features
>of your personality (cravings, dreams, habits, etc.), along with your
>family's and your medical history and such. From the information s/he
>gathers s/he can find a remedy similar to what s/he perceives needs to
>be cured. There is no judgement whatsoever, it's more like finding clues
>to understand how you perceive the world as an individual. The
>homeopathic interview is therapeutic in itself.
>
>Then s/he gives you the remedy of choice and you come to the next
>follow-up about 3 to 4 weeks later.
>
>Many things can happen after you take a constitutional remedy. It's a
>little bit like cleaning house... things shift, past emotions can come
>up, past physical symptoms come back temporarily, and anything that
>hasn't been resolved properly shows up for a brief period and gets
>finally resolved. Depending on the particular case and sensitivity of
>the person, there are subtle to major changes at all levels.
>
>Homeopathy is based on the premise that your own vital force knows what
>is best for you. And the remedy's goal is to gently stimulate your own
>vital force so that it can restore harmony in te best possible way.
>
>I hope this helps. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any
>questions.
>
>Regards,
>
>Yol
>
>Stephanie Elms wrote:
>
>
>
>>I live in northern virginia, outside of Washington DC. Annandale to be exact.
>>In Fairfax county. The larger areas around me are Springfield, Fairfax, and Falls Church.
>>
>>Any tips on what to look for in a homeopath and what to expect would also be greatly
>>appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Stephanie E.
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>

Tia Leschke

19 Dec 2002, at 3:09pm

> Oops.. I meant to send this privately. I hope the *unscholing police*
> won't come scold me again... ;-)

I'd call it sending valuable information to the list. After all unschooling
is life, so all life must be unschooling.
Tia (who believes that the unschooling police is just an urban myth) <g>