about the internet, and unschooling, and
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In a message dated 11/17/02 4:38:02 PM, tessimal@... writes:
<< I mean isn't unschooling all about learning? Are we not all learning
new things all the time? Doesn't our learning how to access and use
the internet set a good example for our children who might be
intimidated about learning something new? Of course, most of the
time they could easily teach us what we need to know about computers
and the internet in a minute, right? >>
I must say, that when people tell me they want to unschool and they don't
have a computer, nor do they plan to get one, I think it's kinda like saying
"I'd like to be a volunteer fireman, but I can't see well in the dark, and I
don't have a telephone. No, I don't WANT to get a telephone. So tell me
about this volunteer fire department thing."
No. The answer to that is no.
YES people can unschool without a computer. But I can't help them unless
they have one. And I can't help them learn the glorious immediate
information available with google.com!
It is possible that I help homeschoolers without computers, because I suppose
some of them might read Home Education Magazine, and some of those might read
my column. But that's very indirect compared to looking things up between
now and the time I hit send, and me being in the other room watching Lord of
the Rings (Again) before anyone reads what I wrote...
Sandra
<< I mean isn't unschooling all about learning? Are we not all learning
new things all the time? Doesn't our learning how to access and use
the internet set a good example for our children who might be
intimidated about learning something new? Of course, most of the
time they could easily teach us what we need to know about computers
and the internet in a minute, right? >>
I must say, that when people tell me they want to unschool and they don't
have a computer, nor do they plan to get one, I think it's kinda like saying
"I'd like to be a volunteer fireman, but I can't see well in the dark, and I
don't have a telephone. No, I don't WANT to get a telephone. So tell me
about this volunteer fire department thing."
No. The answer to that is no.
YES people can unschool without a computer. But I can't help them unless
they have one. And I can't help them learn the glorious immediate
information available with google.com!
It is possible that I help homeschoolers without computers, because I suppose
some of them might read Home Education Magazine, and some of those might read
my column. But that's very indirect compared to looking things up between
now and the time I hit send, and me being in the other room watching Lord of
the Rings (Again) before anyone reads what I wrote...
Sandra
Fetteroll
on 11/17/02 6:53 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
and 9PM. (I can't imagine what it must be like in the apartments in the
building next to it.) And a special series, 2-3-2 I think, for fires. Used
to be (within the last 15 years) that series would be followed by a series
of blasts that told the volunteer firefighters which street to go to. But I
guess they call in now when they hear the 2-3-2. (And it wouldn't have
solved not being able to see in the dark.)
Which has nothing to do with unschooling. ;-)
Joyce
> "I'd like to be a volunteer fireman, but I can't see well in the dark, and IWe have a BIG HUMONGOUS horn on the top of the town hall. It blasts at noon
> don't have a telephone. No, I don't WANT to get a telephone. So tell me
> about this volunteer fire department thing."
and 9PM. (I can't imagine what it must be like in the apartments in the
building next to it.) And a special series, 2-3-2 I think, for fires. Used
to be (within the last 15 years) that series would be followed by a series
of blasts that told the volunteer firefighters which street to go to. But I
guess they call in now when they hear the 2-3-2. (And it wouldn't have
solved not being able to see in the dark.)
Which has nothing to do with unschooling. ;-)
Joyce
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In a message dated 11/17/2002 8:37:17 PM Central Standard Time,
fetteroll@... writes:
a volunteer firefighter. If he heard the siren, he turned on the scanner.
Tuck
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fetteroll@... writes:
> But IThey probably have scanners. I know my fil had one in his house when he was
> guess they call in now when they hear the 2-3-2.
a volunteer firefighter. If he heard the siren, he turned on the scanner.
Tuck
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The White's
In a message dated 11/17/02 18:53:37 EST, SandraDodd@... writes:
<<I must say, that when people tell me they want to unschool and they don't
have a computer, nor do they plan to get one, I think it's kinda like saying
"I'd like to be a volunteer fireman, but I can't see well in the dark, and I
don't have a telephone. No, I don't WANT to get a telephone. So tell me
about this volunteer fire department thing.">>
It's the same thing with books. Have you ever visited an unschooler who doesn't have books, lots of books, books everywhere? I've visited school at home types who don't have any books in there home, except a few "What your child should learn in the XXX grade" kind of books. I know people who have homeschooled for years that rarely visit the library and NEVER purchase a book. They've never even read any homeschooling books!
In my house, there is a library/study with one whole wall full of books. In the basement/kids room there are 6 large freestanding bookshelves FULL. Each child has bookshelves in their room full of books. The family room hearth has 2 large boxes we try to keep the library books in (so we don't loose them <g>). And that's not even thinking of the books in the car, on the couch, lying about on every horizontal surface in the house!!
Folks who still don't use books will probably never understand how wonderful the internet is. In my mind it's just another VERY large library at my fingertips!!!!
Cindy
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<<I must say, that when people tell me they want to unschool and they don't
have a computer, nor do they plan to get one, I think it's kinda like saying
"I'd like to be a volunteer fireman, but I can't see well in the dark, and I
don't have a telephone. No, I don't WANT to get a telephone. So tell me
about this volunteer fire department thing.">>
It's the same thing with books. Have you ever visited an unschooler who doesn't have books, lots of books, books everywhere? I've visited school at home types who don't have any books in there home, except a few "What your child should learn in the XXX grade" kind of books. I know people who have homeschooled for years that rarely visit the library and NEVER purchase a book. They've never even read any homeschooling books!
In my house, there is a library/study with one whole wall full of books. In the basement/kids room there are 6 large freestanding bookshelves FULL. Each child has bookshelves in their room full of books. The family room hearth has 2 large boxes we try to keep the library books in (so we don't loose them <g>). And that's not even thinking of the books in the car, on the couch, lying about on every horizontal surface in the house!!
Folks who still don't use books will probably never understand how wonderful the internet is. In my mind it's just another VERY large library at my fingertips!!!!
Cindy
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The White's
In a message dated 11/17/02 :37:48<fetteroll@...> writes:
<<We have a BIG HUMONGOUS horn on the top of the town hall. It blasts at noon
and 9PM>>
When Dillon was about 2 1/2 or 3, we lived in Boone NC. He loved to go to Blowing Rock to the park and to walk around in the shops. One day we were both on top of the largest, twisting slide, about to go down together, when their noon horn at the firestation went off. It is physically about 45 feet from where we were. Dillon freaked! In fact he did not go down another slide until he was about 6-7, I guess he always associated that sudden fear with the slide!!
Cindy
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<<We have a BIG HUMONGOUS horn on the top of the town hall. It blasts at noon
and 9PM>>
When Dillon was about 2 1/2 or 3, we lived in Boone NC. He loved to go to Blowing Rock to the park and to walk around in the shops. One day we were both on top of the largest, twisting slide, about to go down together, when their noon horn at the firestation went off. It is physically about 45 feet from where we were. Dillon freaked! In fact he did not go down another slide until he was about 6-7, I guess he always associated that sudden fear with the slide!!
Cindy
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In a message dated 11/18/02 10:37:54 AM, jwwjr@... writes:
<< I've visited school at home types who don't have any books in there home,
except a few "What your child should learn in the XXX grade" kind of books.
I know people who have homeschooled for years that rarely visit the library
and NEVER purchase a book. They've never even read any homeschooling books!
I've visited the homes of childless acquaintances from time to time and found
not one book, but I can't say I have friends who don't have any. That's just
got to be one of the first criteria, is an interesting bookshelf easily
visible from the front door. <g>
(Hey wait... my house isn't meeting my own traditional criteria anymore...)
Sandra
<< I've visited school at home types who don't have any books in there home,
except a few "What your child should learn in the XXX grade" kind of books.
I know people who have homeschooled for years that rarely visit the library
and NEVER purchase a book. They've never even read any homeschooling books!
>>eeeyew.
I've visited the homes of childless acquaintances from time to time and found
not one book, but I can't say I have friends who don't have any. That's just
got to be one of the first criteria, is an interesting bookshelf easily
visible from the front door. <g>
(Hey wait... my house isn't meeting my own traditional criteria anymore...)
Sandra
susan marie
has anyone read the children's picture book "The Library", about the
young woman who loves books? My mom sent it to us when she saw it.. she
said it made her think of us! Great book.. so many books in the home
that they are everywhere!
peace,
susan
so many books, so little time.
(I not only still have my college texts, I have my dad's as well!)
young woman who loves books? My mom sent it to us when she saw it.. she
said it made her think of us! Great book.. so many books in the home
that they are everywhere!
peace,
susan
so many books, so little time.
(I not only still have my college texts, I have my dad's as well!)
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 02:18 PM, SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/18/02 10:37:54 AM, jwwjr@... writes:
>
> << I've visited school at home types who don't have any books in there
> home,
> except a few "What your child should learn in the XXX grade" kind of
> books.
> I know people who have homeschooled for years that rarely visit the
> library
> and NEVER purchase a book. They've never even read any homeschooling
> books!
> >>
>
> eeeyew.
>
> I've visited the homes of childless acquaintances from time to time and
> found
> not one book, but I can't say I have friends who don't have any.
> That's just
> got to be one of the first criteria, is an interesting bookshelf easily
> visible from the front door. <g>
>
> (Hey wait... my house isn't meeting my own traditional criteria
> anymore...)
>
> Sandra
>
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peace,
Susan
"Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which
we arrive at that goal."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Rachel Ann
My theme is there is no such thing as too many books, just too few bookshelves....
We had a yard sale and were getting rid of some books, because of our move to Israel come summer... and she said the same thing. I kept thinking, now I meet you!!!!
be well,
Rachel Ann, who prefers books over jewels, food and about anything else one can name....
We had a yard sale and were getting rid of some books, because of our move to Israel come summer... and she said the same thing. I kept thinking, now I meet you!!!!
be well,
Rachel Ann, who prefers books over jewels, food and about anything else one can name....
----- Original Message -----
From: susan marie
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] about the internet, and unschooling, and
has anyone read the children's picture book "The Library", about the
young woman who loves books? My mom sent it to us when she saw it.. she
said it made her think of us! Great book.. so many books in the home
that they are everywhere!
peace,
susan
so many books, so little time.
(I not only still have my college texts, I have my dad's as well!)
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 02:18 PM, SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 11/18/02 10:37:54 AM, jwwjr@... writes:
>
> << I've visited school at home types who don't have any books in there
> home,
> except a few "What your child should learn in the XXX grade" kind of
> books.
> I know people who have homeschooled for years that rarely visit the
> library
> and NEVER purchase a book. They've never even read any homeschooling
> books!
> >>
>
> eeeyew.
>
> I've visited the homes of childless acquaintances from time to time and
> found
> not one book, but I can't say I have friends who don't have any.
> That's just
> got to be one of the first criteria, is an interesting bookshelf easily
> visible from the front door. <g>
>
> (Hey wait... my house isn't meeting my own traditional criteria
> anymore...)
>
> Sandra
>
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peace,
Susan
"Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which
we arrive at that goal."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Robyn Coburn
I love this quote from C.S. Lewis, from the back of my copy of "The
Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe".
"I am the product of long corridors, empty sunlit rooms, upstair indoor
silences, attics explored in solitude, distant noises of gurgling
cisterns and pipes, and the noise of wind under the tiles. Also, of
endless books. There were books in the study, books in the drawing-room,
books in the cloakroom, books (two deep) in the great bookcase on the
landing, books in a bedroom, books piled as high as my shoulder in the
cistern attic, books of all kinds reflecting every transient stage of my
parents' interests, books readable and unreadable, books suitable for a
child and books most emphatically not. Nothing was forbidden me. In the
seemingly endless rainy afternoons I took volume after volume from the
shelves."
Robyn Coburn
<<has anyone read the children's picture book "The Library", about the
young woman who loves books? My mom sent it to us when she saw it.. she
said it made her think of us! Great book.. so many books in the home
that they are everywhere!>>
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Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe".
"I am the product of long corridors, empty sunlit rooms, upstair indoor
silences, attics explored in solitude, distant noises of gurgling
cisterns and pipes, and the noise of wind under the tiles. Also, of
endless books. There were books in the study, books in the drawing-room,
books in the cloakroom, books (two deep) in the great bookcase on the
landing, books in a bedroom, books piled as high as my shoulder in the
cistern attic, books of all kinds reflecting every transient stage of my
parents' interests, books readable and unreadable, books suitable for a
child and books most emphatically not. Nothing was forbidden me. In the
seemingly endless rainy afternoons I took volume after volume from the
shelves."
Robyn Coburn
<<has anyone read the children's picture book "The Library", about the
young woman who loves books? My mom sent it to us when she saw it.. she
said it made her think of us! Great book.. so many books in the home
that they are everywhere!>>
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Kelli Traaseth
Ohhhh, This is great Robyn! Thank you!
I think I should have that and 'so many books, so little time' hung in the entrance to my house and it would explain alot about our household!
Kelli
Robyn Coburn <dezigna@...> wrote:I love this quote from C.S. Lewis, from the back of my copy of "The
Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe".
"I am the product of long corridors, empty sunlit rooms, upstair indoor
silences, attics explored in solitude, distant noises of gurgling
cisterns and pipes, and the noise of wind under the tiles. Also, of
endless books. There were books in the study, books in the drawing-room,
books in the cloakroom, books (two deep) in the great bookcase on the
landing, books in a bedroom, books piled as high as my shoulder in the
cistern attic, books of all kinds reflecting every transient stage of my
parents' interests, books readable and unreadable, books suitable for a
child and books most emphatically not. Nothing was forbidden me. In the
seemingly endless rainy afternoons I took volume after volume from the
shelves."
Robyn Coburn
<<has anyone read the children's picture book "The Library", about the
young woman who loves books? My mom sent it to us when she saw it.. she
said it made her think of us! Great book.. so many books in the home
that they are everywhere!>>
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I think I should have that and 'so many books, so little time' hung in the entrance to my house and it would explain alot about our household!
Kelli
Robyn Coburn <dezigna@...> wrote:I love this quote from C.S. Lewis, from the back of my copy of "The
Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe".
"I am the product of long corridors, empty sunlit rooms, upstair indoor
silences, attics explored in solitude, distant noises of gurgling
cisterns and pipes, and the noise of wind under the tiles. Also, of
endless books. There were books in the study, books in the drawing-room,
books in the cloakroom, books (two deep) in the great bookcase on the
landing, books in a bedroom, books piled as high as my shoulder in the
cistern attic, books of all kinds reflecting every transient stage of my
parents' interests, books readable and unreadable, books suitable for a
child and books most emphatically not. Nothing was forbidden me. In the
seemingly endless rainy afternoons I took volume after volume from the
shelves."
Robyn Coburn
<<has anyone read the children's picture book "The Library", about the
young woman who loves books? My mom sent it to us when she saw it.. she
said it made her think of us! Great book.. so many books in the home
that they are everywhere!>>
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> Folks who still don't use books will probably never understand how wonderfulCindy--
> the internet is. In my mind it's just another VERY large library at my
> fingertips!!!!
>
>
Exactly! I worked with a woman who HATED the computer. She complained,
"All I do is READ!!
Mary J
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