a typical statement of faith
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In a message dated 11/7/02 9:16:47 PM, ecsamhill@... writes:
<< Does anyone have a typical Statement of Faith from a major exclusionary
Christian homeschooling group? That might clarify what specific beliefs
we are talking about. >>
Good thinking:
Statement of Faith
Family Association for Instruction and Teaching at Home
1. We believe the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired
Word of God, without error, the revelation of his will for the salvation of
men.
2. We believe in one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect and
eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
3. We believe that Jesus Christ is true God and true man, having been
conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He died on the
cross, the sacrifice for our sins according to the scriptures. Further, He
arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where at the right hand of
the Majesty on High, He is our Priest and Advocate.
4. We believe that the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to glorify the Lord
Jesus Christ, and during this age to convict men, regenerate the believing
sinner, indwell, guide, instruct, and empower the believer for godly living
and sacrifice.
5. We believe the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection provide the
only ground for justification and salvation for all who believe, and only
those who receive Jesus Christ are born of the Holy Spirit, and thus become
children of God.
6. We believe in the personal and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
and that this "Blessed Hope" has a vital bearing on the personal life and
service of the believer.
7. We believe in the bodily resurrection of the dead; of the believer to
everlasting blessedness and joy with the Lord; of the unrepentant to judgment
and everlasting conscious punishment.
<< Does anyone have a typical Statement of Faith from a major exclusionary
Christian homeschooling group? That might clarify what specific beliefs
we are talking about. >>
Good thinking:
Statement of Faith
Family Association for Instruction and Teaching at Home
1. We believe the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired
Word of God, without error, the revelation of his will for the salvation of
men.
2. We believe in one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect and
eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
3. We believe that Jesus Christ is true God and true man, having been
conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He died on the
cross, the sacrifice for our sins according to the scriptures. Further, He
arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where at the right hand of
the Majesty on High, He is our Priest and Advocate.
4. We believe that the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to glorify the Lord
Jesus Christ, and during this age to convict men, regenerate the believing
sinner, indwell, guide, instruct, and empower the believer for godly living
and sacrifice.
5. We believe the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection provide the
only ground for justification and salvation for all who believe, and only
those who receive Jesus Christ are born of the Holy Spirit, and thus become
children of God.
6. We believe in the personal and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
and that this "Blessed Hope" has a vital bearing on the personal life and
service of the believer.
7. We believe in the bodily resurrection of the dead; of the believer to
everlasting blessedness and joy with the Lord; of the unrepentant to judgment
and everlasting conscious punishment.
Nora or Devereaux Cannon
Yep - that sweeps too broadly. I bet that you would get a fair
match up between those beliefs and most Christians. Not 100% -
and some with reservations about what the meaning/intent of
particular phrases might be - but too many to make it a
meaningful filter for who "fundamentalist christians" are.
match up between those beliefs and most Christians. Not 100% -
and some with reservations about what the meaning/intent of
particular phrases might be - but too many to make it a
meaningful filter for who "fundamentalist christians" are.
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From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:30 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] a typical statement of faith
|
| In a message dated 11/7/02 9:16:47 PM, ecsamhill@...
writes:
|
| << Does anyone have a typical Statement of Faith from a major
exclusionary
| Christian homeschooling group? That might clarify what
specific beliefs
| we are talking about. >>
|
| Good thinking:
|
|
| Statement of Faith
|
| Family Association for Instruction and Teaching at Home
|
| 1. We believe the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to
be the inspired
| Word of God, without error, the revelation of his will for the
salvation of
| men.
|
| 2. We believe in one God, Creator of all things, infinitely
perfect and
| eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy
Spirit.
|
| 3. We believe that Jesus Christ is true God and true man,
having been
| conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He
died on the
| cross, the sacrifice for our sins according to the scriptures.
Further, He
| arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where at the
right hand of
| the Majesty on High, He is our Priest and Advocate.
|
| 4. We believe that the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to
glorify the Lord
| Jesus Christ, and during this age to convict men, regenerate
the believing
| sinner, indwell, guide, instruct, and empower the believer for
godly living
| and sacrifice.
|
| 5. We believe the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His
resurrection provide the
| only ground for justification and salvation for all who
believe, and only
| those who receive Jesus Christ are born of the Holy Spirit, and
thus become
| children of God.
|
| 6. We believe in the personal and imminent coming of our Lord
Jesus Christ
| and that this "Blessed Hope" has a vital bearing on the
personal life and
| service of the believer.
|
| 7. We believe in the bodily resurrection of the dead; of the
believer to
| everlasting blessedness and joy with the Lord; of the
unrepentant to judgment
| and everlasting conscious punishment.
|
|
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<<2. We believe in one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect and
eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.>>
I'll never get this one,they say they believe in 1 God,but he exists in 3 people?That means you have a mental image of 3 different people in mind when you are thinking about God,Jesus & the holy spirit,so how can they say they believe in 1 God?If Jesus is God that means he's a person just as we are,that means he does everything humans do,go to the bathroom,have relations,etc.The 1 God I believe in is much more superior than that & would never become a human,otherwise I would not worship somebody on the same level as myself(being human).I believe Jesus was sent to bring us the message of God & if you read the Bible,it says that Jesus told the people he was not God,but nobody choose to listen to him.
Renee
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 11/7/02 9:16:47 PM, ecsamhill@... writes:
<< Does anyone have a typical Statement of Faith from a major exclusionary
Christian homeschooling group? That might clarify what specific beliefs
we are talking about. >>
Good thinking:
Statement of Faith
Family Association for Instruction and Teaching at Home
1. We believe the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired
Word of God, without error, the revelation of his will for the salvation of
men.
2. We believe in one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect and
eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
3. We believe that Jesus Christ is true God and true man, having been
conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He died on the
cross, the sacrifice for our sins according to the scriptures. Further, He
arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where at the right hand of
the Majesty on High, He is our Priest and Advocate.
4. We believe that the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to glorify the Lord
Jesus Christ, and during this age to convict men, regenerate the believing
sinner, indwell, guide, instruct, and empower the believer for godly living
and sacrifice.
5. We believe the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection provide the
only ground for justification and salvation for all who believe, and only
those who receive Jesus Christ are born of the Holy Spirit, and thus become
children of God.
6. We believe in the personal and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
and that this "Blessed Hope" has a vital bearing on the personal life and
service of the believer.
7. We believe in the bodily resurrection of the dead; of the believer to
everlasting blessedness and joy with the Lord; of the unrepentant to judgment
and everlasting conscious punishment.
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eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.>>
I'll never get this one,they say they believe in 1 God,but he exists in 3 people?That means you have a mental image of 3 different people in mind when you are thinking about God,Jesus & the holy spirit,so how can they say they believe in 1 God?If Jesus is God that means he's a person just as we are,that means he does everything humans do,go to the bathroom,have relations,etc.The 1 God I believe in is much more superior than that & would never become a human,otherwise I would not worship somebody on the same level as myself(being human).I believe Jesus was sent to bring us the message of God & if you read the Bible,it says that Jesus told the people he was not God,but nobody choose to listen to him.
Renee
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 11/7/02 9:16:47 PM, ecsamhill@... writes:
<< Does anyone have a typical Statement of Faith from a major exclusionary
Christian homeschooling group? That might clarify what specific beliefs
we are talking about. >>
Good thinking:
Statement of Faith
Family Association for Instruction and Teaching at Home
1. We believe the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired
Word of God, without error, the revelation of his will for the salvation of
men.
2. We believe in one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect and
eternally existing in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
3. We believe that Jesus Christ is true God and true man, having been
conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He died on the
cross, the sacrifice for our sins according to the scriptures. Further, He
arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where at the right hand of
the Majesty on High, He is our Priest and Advocate.
4. We believe that the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to glorify the Lord
Jesus Christ, and during this age to convict men, regenerate the believing
sinner, indwell, guide, instruct, and empower the believer for godly living
and sacrifice.
5. We believe the shed blood of Jesus Christ and His resurrection provide the
only ground for justification and salvation for all who believe, and only
those who receive Jesus Christ are born of the Holy Spirit, and thus become
children of God.
6. We believe in the personal and imminent coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
and that this "Blessed Hope" has a vital bearing on the personal life and
service of the believer.
7. We believe in the bodily resurrection of the dead; of the believer to
everlasting blessedness and joy with the Lord; of the unrepentant to judgment
and everlasting conscious punishment.
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on 11/8/02 9:22 AM, Nicole Nichol at mom23princess@... wrote:
gods.
(Though Hinduism encompasses a wide range of beliefs so this does't
represent what all Hindus believe.)
Joyce
> I'll never get this one,they say they believe in 1 God,but he exists in 3Many Hindus do even better than that. Their God is simultaneously 1000's of
> people?That means you have a mental image of 3 different people in mind when
> you are thinking about God,Jesus & the holy spirit,so how can they say they
> believe in 1 God?
gods.
(Though Hinduism encompasses a wide range of beliefs so this does't
represent what all Hindus believe.)
Joyce
kayb85
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Nora or Devereaux Cannon"
<dcannon@n...> wrote:
differentiate between a "fundamentalist" Christian and someone who we
would not call a fundamentalist.
This part: "The Bible is the inspired and infallible Word of God"
This part: "The Bible, in its original autograph is without error in
whole and in part, including theological concepts as well as
geographical and historical details"
This part: "Salvation is offered as a gift, free to the sinner. The
gift must be responded to in individual faith, not trusting in
personal works whatsoever, but in the sacrificial death of Jesus
Christ alone."
Sheila
<dcannon@n...> wrote:
> Yep - that sweeps too broadly. I bet that you would get a fairI can tell you what things in our statement of faith would probably
> match up between those beliefs and most Christians. Not 100% -
> and some with reservations about what the meaning/intent of
> particular phrases might be - but too many to make it a
> meaningful filter for who "fundamentalist christians" are.>
differentiate between a "fundamentalist" Christian and someone who we
would not call a fundamentalist.
This part: "The Bible is the inspired and infallible Word of God"
This part: "The Bible, in its original autograph is without error in
whole and in part, including theological concepts as well as
geographical and historical details"
This part: "Salvation is offered as a gift, free to the sinner. The
gift must be responded to in individual faith, not trusting in
personal works whatsoever, but in the sacrificial death of Jesus
Christ alone."
Sheila
susan marie
Gosh Sheila, I have about a thousand questions I'd like to ask and don't
quite know where to begin. Thank you for sharing your beliefs so calmly,
esp. knowing that many of us here have had unpleasant, hurtful
encounters with fund. xtians. I appreciate the manner in which you have
answered these questions.
My personal spiritual / religious beliefs are deeply held, and very
different from yours. ~~~
on another note..
For anyone who might be interested, catholic priest / sociologist Andrew
Greeley, who is better known for his novels, also writes non-fiction,
based on his sociological research. He often discusses something he
calls "the religious imagination". What he is referring to is that each
of us has a way in which we "imagine God". I have always found his work
fascinating. If you're interested, read "The Catholic Imagination". The
premise, if I recall correctly, is that Protestant Christians see God as
"elsewhere" (in Heaven, not on earth) whereas Catholics see God as
present in the world. That this basic differene allows for totally
different understandings of Christianity and society. This is all based
on research, and not his opinions.
Andrew Greeley's web page: http://www.agreeley.com/
If you are interested in alternative views of Christianity, try Elaine
Pagel's "The Gnostic Gospels", Margaret Starbird's "The Woman with the
Alabaster Jar" and Ester de Waal's "The Celtic Way of Prayer".
Margaret Starbird's web page: http://www.telisphere.com/~starbird/
Gnostic gospels (Nag Hammdai library):
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
As for celtic spirituality, there's so much out there - ancient, modern,
christian, pagan, irish, scottish.. it's difficult to give just one
link. If anyone's intersted, I can share more specific info. If not,
that's okay too. :-)
(told you I love this stuff)
peace,
Susan
quite know where to begin. Thank you for sharing your beliefs so calmly,
esp. knowing that many of us here have had unpleasant, hurtful
encounters with fund. xtians. I appreciate the manner in which you have
answered these questions.
My personal spiritual / religious beliefs are deeply held, and very
different from yours. ~~~
on another note..
For anyone who might be interested, catholic priest / sociologist Andrew
Greeley, who is better known for his novels, also writes non-fiction,
based on his sociological research. He often discusses something he
calls "the religious imagination". What he is referring to is that each
of us has a way in which we "imagine God". I have always found his work
fascinating. If you're interested, read "The Catholic Imagination". The
premise, if I recall correctly, is that Protestant Christians see God as
"elsewhere" (in Heaven, not on earth) whereas Catholics see God as
present in the world. That this basic differene allows for totally
different understandings of Christianity and society. This is all based
on research, and not his opinions.
Andrew Greeley's web page: http://www.agreeley.com/
If you are interested in alternative views of Christianity, try Elaine
Pagel's "The Gnostic Gospels", Margaret Starbird's "The Woman with the
Alabaster Jar" and Ester de Waal's "The Celtic Way of Prayer".
Margaret Starbird's web page: http://www.telisphere.com/~starbird/
Gnostic gospels (Nag Hammdai library):
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
As for celtic spirituality, there's so much out there - ancient, modern,
christian, pagan, irish, scottish.. it's difficult to give just one
link. If anyone's intersted, I can share more specific info. If not,
that's okay too. :-)
(told you I love this stuff)
peace,
Susan
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 10:41 AM, kayb85 wrote:
>
> I can tell you what things in our statement of faith would probably
> differentiate between a "fundamentalist" Christian and someone who we
> would not call a fundamentalist.
>
> This part: "The Bible is the inspired and infallible Word of God"
> This part: "The Bible, in its original autograph is without error in
> whole and in part, including theological concepts as well as
> geographical and historical details"
> This part: "Salvation is offered as a gift, free to the sinner. The
> gift must be responded to in individual faith, not trusting in
> personal works whatsoever, but in the sacrificial death of Jesus
> Christ alone."
>
> Sheila
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Nicole Nichol
I forgot about that one.We had hindu neighbors & the wife wouldn't eat meat but the husband would bbq chicken & eat it.Maybe they don't consider the chicken a god?:) They do have colorful pictures,though.:) I just love the woman with all those arms.Obviously that picture was invented by a man.lol!
Renee
Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:on 11/8/02 9:22 AM, Nicole Nichol at mom23princess@... wrote:
gods.
(Though Hinduism encompasses a wide range of beliefs so this does't
represent what all Hindus believe.)
Joyce
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Renee
Fetteroll <fetteroll@...> wrote:on 11/8/02 9:22 AM, Nicole Nichol at mom23princess@... wrote:
> I'll never get this one,they say they believe in 1 God,but he exists in 3Many Hindus do even better than that. Their God is simultaneously 1000's of
> people?That means you have a mental image of 3 different people in mind when
> you are thinking about God,Jesus & the holy spirit,so how can they say they
> believe in 1 God?
gods.
(Though Hinduism encompasses a wide range of beliefs so this does't
represent what all Hindus believe.)
Joyce
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In a message dated 11/8/02 7:23:37 AM, mom23princess@... writes:
<< they say they believe in 1 God,but he exists in 3 people?That means you
have a mental image of 3 different people in mind when you are thinking about
God,Jesus & the holy spirit,so how can they say they believe in 1 God? >>
I like to think of it as three states of the same element, as steam, water
and ice are all manifestations of water.
So steam can be the holy spirit, water and be God and ice (solid form with
edges) can be Jesus.
-=-never become a human,otherwise I would not worship somebody on the same
level as myself(being human)-=-
Half human. Like Mr. Spock.
<<I believe Jesus was sent to bring us the message of God & if you read the
Bible,it says that Jesus told the people he was not God,but nobody choose to
listen to him.>>
Jesus is quoting as saying lots of things. One gospel says one thing,
another says it differenc, and yet people state in pulpits with frequency
that the Bible doesn't contradict itself.
For anyone interested in such things, this site is interesting:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
Sandra
<< they say they believe in 1 God,but he exists in 3 people?That means you
have a mental image of 3 different people in mind when you are thinking about
God,Jesus & the holy spirit,so how can they say they believe in 1 God? >>
I like to think of it as three states of the same element, as steam, water
and ice are all manifestations of water.
So steam can be the holy spirit, water and be God and ice (solid form with
edges) can be Jesus.
-=-never become a human,otherwise I would not worship somebody on the same
level as myself(being human)-=-
Half human. Like Mr. Spock.
<<I believe Jesus was sent to bring us the message of God & if you read the
Bible,it says that Jesus told the people he was not God,but nobody choose to
listen to him.>>
Jesus is quoting as saying lots of things. One gospel says one thing,
another says it differenc, and yet people state in pulpits with frequency
that the Bible doesn't contradict itself.
For anyone interested in such things, this site is interesting:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
Sandra