When the kids don't seem to need you...and other concerns
momo3kaj
Hi all,
My 14yos and 10yos can go for hours(days) playing D & D (with or
without the neighbor kids depending on school) Magic cards, Warhammer
and video games. My 7yo daughter shadows them but will occasionally
seek me out ( usually because of some real or imagined infraction by
her brothers) and we chat or eat or play a game or watch a movie etc.
So I have few questions/concerns for the list...
Do you worry when one child seems to control the "to do" list of the
day? I know for a fact that when the older one is away the middle
two play well together and do a larger variety of things.
Do you worry about the tunnel vision of one interfering with the
others' potential?
If they were just as busy with a greater variety of things I guess I
would be less concerned.
I have separate play groups and activities for my daughter.
The boys have their own mainly homeschooled group for...you guessed
it...D & D
It seems hard to connect with the boys individally and
I try to have family activities for all of us but this can aggravate
the oldest as it does not seem to jive with his agenda.
Anyone have any words of wisdom??
Thanks
Beth
Oh yeah...D & D is (Dungeons and Dragons a medieval/fantasy role
playing game)
My 14yos and 10yos can go for hours(days) playing D & D (with or
without the neighbor kids depending on school) Magic cards, Warhammer
and video games. My 7yo daughter shadows them but will occasionally
seek me out ( usually because of some real or imagined infraction by
her brothers) and we chat or eat or play a game or watch a movie etc.
So I have few questions/concerns for the list...
Do you worry when one child seems to control the "to do" list of the
day? I know for a fact that when the older one is away the middle
two play well together and do a larger variety of things.
Do you worry about the tunnel vision of one interfering with the
others' potential?
If they were just as busy with a greater variety of things I guess I
would be less concerned.
I have separate play groups and activities for my daughter.
The boys have their own mainly homeschooled group for...you guessed
it...D & D
It seems hard to connect with the boys individally and
I try to have family activities for all of us but this can aggravate
the oldest as it does not seem to jive with his agenda.
Anyone have any words of wisdom??
Thanks
Beth
Oh yeah...D & D is (Dungeons and Dragons a medieval/fantasy role
playing game)
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In a message dated 11/5/02 5:22:48 PM, scott-wecht@... writes:
<< Do you worry when one child seems to control the "to do" list of the
day? >>
No.
I know it happens. I do it myself, when I have friends over.
<<I know for a fact that when the older one is away the middle
two play well together and do a larger variety of things. >>
I do different things with different people myself.
<<Do you worry about the tunnel vision of one interfering with the
others' potential?>>
If one overwhelmed the other's will daily for years I might worry. But
they're not always together, and things change.
<<It seems hard to connect with the boys individally and
I try to have family activities for all of us but this can aggravate
the oldest as it does not seem to jive with his agenda. >>
The point comes when it gets harder to do a whole family thing.
In the case of the oldest being a dominant yet difficult element (true in my
house), embrace the opportunity for the family, other kids all except the
oldest to do some things. It gives #2 a chance to be the oldest sometimes,
and it gives #1 the maturing feeling that he's not always tied to his family.
Sandra
<< Do you worry when one child seems to control the "to do" list of the
day? >>
No.
I know it happens. I do it myself, when I have friends over.
<<I know for a fact that when the older one is away the middle
two play well together and do a larger variety of things. >>
I do different things with different people myself.
<<Do you worry about the tunnel vision of one interfering with the
others' potential?>>
If one overwhelmed the other's will daily for years I might worry. But
they're not always together, and things change.
<<It seems hard to connect with the boys individally and
I try to have family activities for all of us but this can aggravate
the oldest as it does not seem to jive with his agenda. >>
The point comes when it gets harder to do a whole family thing.
In the case of the oldest being a dominant yet difficult element (true in my
house), embrace the opportunity for the family, other kids all except the
oldest to do some things. It gives #2 a chance to be the oldest sometimes,
and it gives #1 the maturing feeling that he's not always tied to his family.
Sandra
Kelli Traaseth
*The point comes when it gets harder to do a whole family thing.*
This is where we are also struggling, we are doing fun things outside or going to concerts and such and my ds(9) would rather just do the PS2. Do I just let him and he will eventually see what he is missing? And then I just hope that the jazz band is in town again, or that we'll have other opportunities?
I come into conflict with this because I have 2 brothers who were the same way and my mother would just leave them to their own, well, now as adults they feel like they weren't ever included? Feel very isolated from the family, almost unloved. Maybe my mother just didn't do enough 'with' us so there was no involvement, or enough interaction. She didn't know how? I don't know. We were able to watch TV when ever we wanted, but then that's all we did. And when my kids are there that's all they do. I suppose this was neglect? Again, I don't know, just thinking on my computer.
Maybe this is where an addictive personality come into play?
Kelli
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 11/5/02 5:22:48 PM, scott-wecht@... writes:
<< Do you worry when one child seems to control the "to do" list of the
day? >>
No.
I know it happens. I do it myself, when I have friends over.
<<I know for a fact that when the older one is away the middle
two play well together and do a larger variety of things. >>
I do different things with different people myself.
<<Do you worry about the tunnel vision of one interfering with the
others' potential?>>
If one overwhelmed the other's will daily for years I might worry. But
they're not always together, and things change.
<<It seems hard to connect with the boys individally and
I try to have family activities for all of us but this can aggravate
the oldest as it does not seem to jive with his agenda. >>
The point comes when it gets harder to do a whole family thing.
In the case of the oldest being a dominant yet difficult element (true in my
house), embrace the opportunity for the family, other kids all except the
oldest to do some things. It gives #2 a chance to be the oldest sometimes,
and it gives #1 the maturing feeling that he's not always tied to his family.
Sandra
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This is where we are also struggling, we are doing fun things outside or going to concerts and such and my ds(9) would rather just do the PS2. Do I just let him and he will eventually see what he is missing? And then I just hope that the jazz band is in town again, or that we'll have other opportunities?
I come into conflict with this because I have 2 brothers who were the same way and my mother would just leave them to their own, well, now as adults they feel like they weren't ever included? Feel very isolated from the family, almost unloved. Maybe my mother just didn't do enough 'with' us so there was no involvement, or enough interaction. She didn't know how? I don't know. We were able to watch TV when ever we wanted, but then that's all we did. And when my kids are there that's all they do. I suppose this was neglect? Again, I don't know, just thinking on my computer.
Maybe this is where an addictive personality come into play?
Kelli
SandraDodd@... wrote:
In a message dated 11/5/02 5:22:48 PM, scott-wecht@... writes:
<< Do you worry when one child seems to control the "to do" list of the
day? >>
No.
I know it happens. I do it myself, when I have friends over.
<<I know for a fact that when the older one is away the middle
two play well together and do a larger variety of things. >>
I do different things with different people myself.
<<Do you worry about the tunnel vision of one interfering with the
others' potential?>>
If one overwhelmed the other's will daily for years I might worry. But
they're not always together, and things change.
<<It seems hard to connect with the boys individally and
I try to have family activities for all of us but this can aggravate
the oldest as it does not seem to jive with his agenda. >>
The point comes when it gets harder to do a whole family thing.
In the case of the oldest being a dominant yet difficult element (true in my
house), embrace the opportunity for the family, other kids all except the
oldest to do some things. It gives #2 a chance to be the oldest sometimes,
and it gives #1 the maturing feeling that he's not always tied to his family.
Sandra
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The White's
In a message dated Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:08 EST SandraDodd@... writes:
The point comes when it gets harder to do a whole family thing.
In the case of the oldest being a dominant yet difficult element (true in my
house), embrace the opportunity for the family, other kids all except the
oldest to do some things. It gives #2 a chance to be the oldest sometimes,
and it gives #1 the maturing feeling that he's not always tied to his family.
Sandra
We have the same sort of problems here, yet we only have 2 kids. My son Dillon is almost 10 and often seems to already be an adolescent. He seems angry a lot, asks us to give away his younger sister, Emma, who is 6. Dillon has always been outgoing, emotional and affectionate and was very needy as a baby. Now he yells a lot, has trouble with his temper but never hits. He just flies off into rages, especially towards Emma. He acts as though we are the enemy and constantly tells us that we just don't get it. We continue to tell him that we will not let him speak to us or others in such an ugly voice. (See why I think he's hormonal but think it's too early?)
Not so awfully long ago the kids could play together all day really well. Now they play together really well about 30% of the day, the rest of the day they are fussing, or Dillon is. He's also recently begun watching lots more TV than usual. He used to watch 1 or 2 shows then shut it off. Now he will watch all day and even plans his days around favorite shows. There are not any other kids around for them to play with, either together or separately. We have 1 neighbor close enough to walk but they are rarely home, are in PS. Their best friends are about 25-30 minutes away (we are in a very rural area of VA) and are siblings also, so it's hard to let Dillon do things without his sister. We manage to on occasion, but I realize he's needs more time away from family.
I'm thinking that all of this is normal developmental stuff, sibling stuff. I just have a problem dealing with it. I've talked to them both, and to him alone, about how we seem unhappy so much these days. I've taught him deep breathing exercises and point out times to use them.
There's also added stress in our lives since I too broke my leg, and am more needy and unable to take care of things like I usually do. Mine is the right leg, so I cannot drive which is a big problem. But Dad has jumped right in to do what I cannot and the kids have really been great helping out. I really don't think it's my leg.....I think it's Dillon's personality and his growing up.
Any ideas....suggestions?
Cindy
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The point comes when it gets harder to do a whole family thing.
In the case of the oldest being a dominant yet difficult element (true in my
house), embrace the opportunity for the family, other kids all except the
oldest to do some things. It gives #2 a chance to be the oldest sometimes,
and it gives #1 the maturing feeling that he's not always tied to his family.
Sandra
We have the same sort of problems here, yet we only have 2 kids. My son Dillon is almost 10 and often seems to already be an adolescent. He seems angry a lot, asks us to give away his younger sister, Emma, who is 6. Dillon has always been outgoing, emotional and affectionate and was very needy as a baby. Now he yells a lot, has trouble with his temper but never hits. He just flies off into rages, especially towards Emma. He acts as though we are the enemy and constantly tells us that we just don't get it. We continue to tell him that we will not let him speak to us or others in such an ugly voice. (See why I think he's hormonal but think it's too early?)
Not so awfully long ago the kids could play together all day really well. Now they play together really well about 30% of the day, the rest of the day they are fussing, or Dillon is. He's also recently begun watching lots more TV than usual. He used to watch 1 or 2 shows then shut it off. Now he will watch all day and even plans his days around favorite shows. There are not any other kids around for them to play with, either together or separately. We have 1 neighbor close enough to walk but they are rarely home, are in PS. Their best friends are about 25-30 minutes away (we are in a very rural area of VA) and are siblings also, so it's hard to let Dillon do things without his sister. We manage to on occasion, but I realize he's needs more time away from family.
I'm thinking that all of this is normal developmental stuff, sibling stuff. I just have a problem dealing with it. I've talked to them both, and to him alone, about how we seem unhappy so much these days. I've taught him deep breathing exercises and point out times to use them.
There's also added stress in our lives since I too broke my leg, and am more needy and unable to take care of things like I usually do. Mine is the right leg, so I cannot drive which is a big problem. But Dad has jumped right in to do what I cannot and the kids have really been great helping out. I really don't think it's my leg.....I think it's Dillon's personality and his growing up.
Any ideas....suggestions?
Cindy
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In a message dated 11/6/02 8:39:51 AM, kellitraas@... writes:
<< we are doing fun things outside or going to concerts and such and my
ds(9) would rather just do the PS2. Do I just let him and he will
eventually see what he is missing? And then I just hope that the jazz band
is in town again, or that we'll have other opportunities?
I come into conflict with this because I have 2 brothers who were the same
way and my mother would just leave them to their own, well, now as adults
they feel like they weren't ever included? >>
I would ask him "Do you want to go?"
No
"Are you sure?"
And then happily go without him.
Because it's SURELY not fair to the younger one to miss a concert OR to be
stuck with a whining, surly sibling.
I have been on both ends of this, as a kid and as a mom.
Sandra
<< we are doing fun things outside or going to concerts and such and my
ds(9) would rather just do the PS2. Do I just let him and he will
eventually see what he is missing? And then I just hope that the jazz band
is in town again, or that we'll have other opportunities?
I come into conflict with this because I have 2 brothers who were the same
way and my mother would just leave them to their own, well, now as adults
they feel like they weren't ever included? >>
I would ask him "Do you want to go?"
No
"Are you sure?"
And then happily go without him.
Because it's SURELY not fair to the younger one to miss a concert OR to be
stuck with a whining, surly sibling.
I have been on both ends of this, as a kid and as a mom.
Sandra
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In a message dated 11/6/02 10:40:13 AM, jwwjr@... writes:
<< (See why I think he's hormonal but think it's too early?) >>
Kirby went through a very grumpy stage at that point too. It was HARD.
Then he was fine for a few years and got kind rasty around 13/14, and now at
16 he's SWEET! (Again, for a while, I guess until the urge to move out
comes...)
<< Now they play together really well about 30% of the day, the rest of the
day they are fussing, or Dillon is. >>
Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know when and
how long you and the rest will be out of the house. During that time he
could listen to music or have the TV louder, or do whatever uninterrupted
thing he's been frustrated about not getting to do, AND he'll know when he's
needing to be more helpful/cooperative.
<<There's also added stress in our lives since I too broke my leg, and am
more needy and unable to take care of things like I usually do. Mine is the
right leg, so I cannot drive which is a big problem. >>
It's an epidemic!!!
<< I really don't think it's my leg.....I think it's Dillon's personality
and his growing up. >>
Yes.
Treat him a little older than he is and see if that works? (I mean give him
responsibilities, freedoms, ask his advice.) If that seems to frustrate him
more, maybe treat him a little younger? Maybe do some sweet things for him
(what you can do with a broken leg), and thank him nicely for whatever you
CAN thank him for. Maybe both of those. Just treat him like the best of
himself, or like the boy you want him to be, instead of focussing on the
irritating core or surface (I've thought of it as both) of him.
It will pass!!
Sandra
<< (See why I think he's hormonal but think it's too early?) >>
Kirby went through a very grumpy stage at that point too. It was HARD.
Then he was fine for a few years and got kind rasty around 13/14, and now at
16 he's SWEET! (Again, for a while, I guess until the urge to move out
comes...)
<< Now they play together really well about 30% of the day, the rest of the
day they are fussing, or Dillon is. >>
Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know when and
how long you and the rest will be out of the house. During that time he
could listen to music or have the TV louder, or do whatever uninterrupted
thing he's been frustrated about not getting to do, AND he'll know when he's
needing to be more helpful/cooperative.
<<There's also added stress in our lives since I too broke my leg, and am
more needy and unable to take care of things like I usually do. Mine is the
right leg, so I cannot drive which is a big problem. >>
It's an epidemic!!!
<< I really don't think it's my leg.....I think it's Dillon's personality
and his growing up. >>
Yes.
Treat him a little older than he is and see if that works? (I mean give him
responsibilities, freedoms, ask his advice.) If that seems to frustrate him
more, maybe treat him a little younger? Maybe do some sweet things for him
(what you can do with a broken leg), and thank him nicely for whatever you
CAN thank him for. Maybe both of those. Just treat him like the best of
himself, or like the boy you want him to be, instead of focussing on the
irritating core or surface (I've thought of it as both) of him.
It will pass!!
Sandra
The White's
<< In a message dated 11/6/02 Sandra wrote:
Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know when and how long you and the rest will be out of the house. >>
I see 2 problems.
One, our days go mostly unplanned, especially now that I have a bum leg! Once a week we drive to town, which is over an hour away, for the kids to do music and dance lessons while I visit my Mom. Other than that our lives are serendipity. (maybe that's part of the problem, too little planning???)
And two, I'm not sure I'm ready to leave him at home alone yet...at least for more than 30 minutes or so. And there's nothing we can do in that amount of time being so far away from anything. I have talked my husband into letting him do alot of things recently that he didn't feel Dillon was ready for, like starting the fire in the woodstove, driving my Walmart electric chair back into the store, etc. I will have to jump the hurdle of my husband to leave Dillon alone. But he is maturing and needs to feel like it. His favorite time is at night when he is the only one up, locking up and turning off lights. He wants to "teach" his sister things but approaches it in his own "pedantic" way, so she hears nothing :-)
I'll talk to my husband more about adding responsibilities and freedoms and see how that goes. Sounds like you hit it right on. Last night he fussed at me about not trusting him when we were in Walmart, I should have understood then that he was fussing about more than driving the electric chair.
But, really, are you sure it will pass?!?!?! BWEG
Cindy
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Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know when and how long you and the rest will be out of the house. >>
I see 2 problems.
One, our days go mostly unplanned, especially now that I have a bum leg! Once a week we drive to town, which is over an hour away, for the kids to do music and dance lessons while I visit my Mom. Other than that our lives are serendipity. (maybe that's part of the problem, too little planning???)
And two, I'm not sure I'm ready to leave him at home alone yet...at least for more than 30 minutes or so. And there's nothing we can do in that amount of time being so far away from anything. I have talked my husband into letting him do alot of things recently that he didn't feel Dillon was ready for, like starting the fire in the woodstove, driving my Walmart electric chair back into the store, etc. I will have to jump the hurdle of my husband to leave Dillon alone. But he is maturing and needs to feel like it. His favorite time is at night when he is the only one up, locking up and turning off lights. He wants to "teach" his sister things but approaches it in his own "pedantic" way, so she hears nothing :-)
I'll talk to my husband more about adding responsibilities and freedoms and see how that goes. Sounds like you hit it right on. Last night he fussed at me about not trusting him when we were in Walmart, I should have understood then that he was fussing about more than driving the electric chair.
But, really, are you sure it will pass?!?!?! BWEG
Cindy
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susan marie
How old is he? Question for the group -- at what age do you leave yours
home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after the
others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I am
curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of growing
up?
thanks much,
Susan
home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after the
others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I am
curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of growing
up?
thanks much,
Susan
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 04:07 PM, The White's wrote:
> << In a message dated 11/6/02 Sandra wrote:
>
> Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know when
> and how long you and the rest will be out of the house. >>
>
> I see 2 problems.
>
> One, our days go mostly unplanned, especially now that I have a bum
> leg! Once a week we drive to town, which is over an hour away, for the
> kids to do music and dance lessons while I visit my Mom. Other than
> that our lives are serendipity. (maybe that's part of the problem, too
> little planning???)
>
> And two, I'm not sure I'm ready to leave him at home alone yet...at
> least for more than 30 minutes or so. And there's nothing we can do in
> that amount of time being so far away from anything. I have talked my
> husband into letting him do alot of things recently that he didn't feel
> Dillon was ready for, like starting the fire in the woodstove, driving
> my Walmart electric chair back into the store, etc. I will have to
> jump the hurdle of my husband to leave Dillon alone. But he is
> maturing and needs to feel like it. His favorite time is at night when
> he is the only one up, locking up and turning off lights. He wants to
> "teach" his sister things but approaches it in his own "pedantic" way,
> so she hears nothing :-)
>
> I'll talk to my husband more about adding responsibilities and freedoms
> and see how that goes. Sounds like you hit it right on. Last night he
> fussed at me about not trusting him when we were in Walmart, I should
> have understood then that he was fussing about more than driving the
> electric chair.
>
> But, really, are you sure it will pass?!?!?! BWEG
>
> Cindy
>
>
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>
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Myranda
My 7 yr old often is in the middle of doing something and does not want to stop when the rest of us want to go for a walk or across the way to Nana's house. So I let him stay, while we go do whatever. He's never been left longer than 20 minutes, and I'm almost always within sight of the house. I always tell him which direction I'm going, so he can come get me or join us if he wants to. So far, he's never done anything he shouldn't or anything dangerous, and if he keeps it up, I imagine I'd be able to leave him alone for trips to the store, etc in a couple of years. I'd never ask him to be responsible for someone else, though.
Myranda
From: susan marie
How old is he? Question for the group -- at what age do you leave yours
home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after the
others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I am
curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of growing
up?
thanks much,
Susan
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Myranda
From: susan marie
How old is he? Question for the group -- at what age do you leave yours
home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after the
others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I am
curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of growing
up?
thanks much,
Susan
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Kelli Traaseth
My son is 9, will be 10 in March, in this last year I have left him alone. Maybe for an hour or so, and then I check on him or call him. He has been great, and very excited about it. He does know there are things he can do and can't do. For example using the stove, answering the door or phone. (to reach him I'll call and hang up, call and hang up, four times) I might be anal about that but I feel that he is safer that way.
I'm not sure when he'll be responsible enough to watch his sisters, my 8 yr old dd did stay with him for a little one time and it was OK, but I think its unfair to him to give him the responsibility for others so young. Especially when his emotional development seems to be behind his sister's. I'm thinking that within 2 years or so they'll be fine to hang out alone for a little bit, maybe as dh and I go for a short walk to something.
Anyway, that's where we are on it.
Take Care,
Kelli
susan marie <scribblers2@...> wrote:How old is he? Question for the group -- at what age do you leave yours
home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after the
others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I am
curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of growing
up?
thanks much,
Susan
I'm not sure when he'll be responsible enough to watch his sisters, my 8 yr old dd did stay with him for a little one time and it was OK, but I think its unfair to him to give him the responsibility for others so young. Especially when his emotional development seems to be behind his sister's. I'm thinking that within 2 years or so they'll be fine to hang out alone for a little bit, maybe as dh and I go for a short walk to something.
Anyway, that's where we are on it.
Take Care,
Kelli
susan marie <scribblers2@...> wrote:How old is he? Question for the group -- at what age do you leave yours
home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after the
others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I am
curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of growing
up?
thanks much,
Susan
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 04:07 PM, The White's wrote:
> << In a message dated 11/6/02 Sandra wrote:
>
> Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know when
> and how long you and the rest will be out of the house. >>
>
> I see 2 problems.
>
> One, our days go mostly unplanned, especially now that I have a bum
> leg! Once a week we drive to town, which is over an hour away, for the
> kids to do music and dance lessons while I visit my Mom. Other than
> that our lives are serendipity. (maybe that's part of the problem, too
> little planning???)
>
> And two, I'm not sure I'm ready to leave him at home alone yet...at
> least for more than 30 minutes or so. And there's nothing we can do in
> that amount of time being so far away from anything. I have talked my
> husband into letting him do alot of things recently that he didn't feel
> Dillon was ready for, like starting the fire in the woodstove, driving
> my Walmart electric chair back into the store, etc. I will have to
> jump the hurdle of my husband to leave Dillon alone. But he is
> maturing and needs to feel like it. His favorite time is at night when
> he is the only one up, locking up and turning off lights. He wants to
> "teach" his sister things but approaches it in his own "pedantic" way,
> so she hears nothing :-)
>
> I'll talk to my husband more about adding responsibilities and freedoms
> and see how that goes. Sounds like you hit it right on. Last night he
> fussed at me about not trusting him when we were in Walmart, I should
> have understood then that he was fussing about more than driving the
> electric chair.
>
> But, really, are you sure it will pass?!?!?! BWEG
>
> Cindy
>
>
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You really have to be careful...
In some states leaving a child under a certain age is considered neglect. Posit something happens that requires the child to call the law or upon someone else for help...it could result in some really nasty reprecussions, aside from the originating situation.
I do agree with you that many 9 or 10 year olds have the ability to remain by themselves, and I wouldn't feel that uncomfortable leaving a 10 year old (depending on the child natch) for a bit of time. Just giving you the info, so you can know best how to protect yourself..... (I think that is when we started leaving our children for a bit...and many a babysitter starts babysitting at the age of 11 or 12.)
be well,
Rachel Ann, who doesn't think you are anal at all... heck, look at what is happening out there in the world!
In some states leaving a child under a certain age is considered neglect. Posit something happens that requires the child to call the law or upon someone else for help...it could result in some really nasty reprecussions, aside from the originating situation.
I do agree with you that many 9 or 10 year olds have the ability to remain by themselves, and I wouldn't feel that uncomfortable leaving a 10 year old (depending on the child natch) for a bit of time. Just giving you the info, so you can know best how to protect yourself..... (I think that is when we started leaving our children for a bit...and many a babysitter starts babysitting at the age of 11 or 12.)
be well,
Rachel Ann, who doesn't think you are anal at all... heck, look at what is happening out there in the world!
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelli Traaseth
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] When the kids don't seem to need you...and other concerns
My son is 9, will be 10 in March, in this last year I have left him alone. Maybe for an hour or so, and then I check on him or call him. He has been great, and very excited about it. He does know there are things he can do and can't do. For example using the stove, answering the door or phone. (to reach him I'll call and hang up, call and hang up, four times) I might be anal about that but I feel that he is safer that way.
I'm not sure when he'll be responsible enough to watch his sisters, my 8 yr old dd did stay with him for a little one time and it was OK, but I think its unfair to him to give him the responsibility for others so young. Especially when his emotional development seems to be behind his sister's. I'm thinking that within 2 years or so they'll be fine to hang out alone for a little bit, maybe as dh and I go for a short walk to something.
Anyway, that's where we are on it.
Take Care,
Kelli
susan marie <scribblers2@...> wrote:How old is he? Question for the group -- at what age do you leave yours
home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after the
others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I am
curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of growing
up?
thanks much,
Susan
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 04:07 PM, The White's wrote:
> << In a message dated 11/6/02 Sandra wrote:
>
> Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know when
> and how long you and the rest will be out of the house. >>
>
> I see 2 problems.
>
> One, our days go mostly unplanned, especially now that I have a bum
> leg! Once a week we drive to town, which is over an hour away, for the
> kids to do music and dance lessons while I visit my Mom. Other than
> that our lives are serendipity. (maybe that's part of the problem, too
> little planning???)
>
> And two, I'm not sure I'm ready to leave him at home alone yet...at
> least for more than 30 minutes or so. And there's nothing we can do in
> that amount of time being so far away from anything. I have talked my
> husband into letting him do alot of things recently that he didn't feel
> Dillon was ready for, like starting the fire in the woodstove, driving
> my Walmart electric chair back into the store, etc. I will have to
> jump the hurdle of my husband to leave Dillon alone. But he is
> maturing and needs to feel like it. His favorite time is at night when
> he is the only one up, locking up and turning off lights. He wants to
> "teach" his sister things but approaches it in his own "pedantic" way,
> so she hears nothing :-)
>
> I'll talk to my husband more about adding responsibilities and freedoms
> and see how that goes. Sounds like you hit it right on. Last night he
> fussed at me about not trusting him when we were in Walmart, I should
> have understood then that he was fussing about more than driving the
> electric chair.
>
> But, really, are you sure it will pass?!?!?! BWEG
>
> Cindy
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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susan marie
thanks for all the answers. My oldest is 12, and very responsible, and
it sounds like we're in a pretty similar place to everyone else.
how do you find out what the state law is for this issue?
peace,
Susan
it sounds like we're in a pretty similar place to everyone else.
how do you find out what the state law is for this issue?
peace,
Susan
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 09:18 AM, Rachel Ann wrote:
> You really have to be careful...
>
> In some states leaving a child under a certain age is considered
> neglect. Posit something happens that requires the child to call the
> law or upon someone else for help...it could result in some really
> nasty reprecussions, aside from the originating situation.
>
> I do agree with you that many 9 or 10 year olds have the ability to
> remain by themselves, and I wouldn't feel that uncomfortable leaving a
> 10 year old (depending on the child natch) for a bit of time. Just
> giving you the info, so you can know best how to protect yourself.....
> (I think that is when we started leaving our children for a bit...and
> many a babysitter starts babysitting at the age of 11 or 12.)
>
> be well,
> Rachel Ann, who doesn't think you are anal at all... heck, look at what
> is happening out there in the world!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kelli Traaseth
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] When the kids don't seem to need
> you...and other concerns
>
>
>
> My son is 9, will be 10 in March, in this last year I have left him
> alone. Maybe for an hour or so, and then I check on him or call him.
> He has been great, and very excited about it. He does know there are
> things he can do and can't do. For example using the stove, answering
> the door or phone. (to reach him I'll call and hang up, call and hang
> up, four times) I might be anal about that but I feel that he is safer
> that way.
>
> I'm not sure when he'll be responsible enough to watch his sisters,
> my 8 yr old dd did stay with him for a little one time and it was OK,
> but I think its unfair to him to give him the responsibility for others
> so young. Especially when his emotional development seems to be behind
> his sister's. I'm thinking that within 2 years or so they'll be fine
> to hang out alone for a little bit, maybe as dh and I go for a short
> walk to something.
>
> Anyway, that's where we are on it.
>
> Take Care,
> Kelli
> susan marie <scribblers2@...> wrote:How old is he?
> Question for the group -- at what age do you leave yours
> home alone, and for how long, and what sort of things do you consider,
> and when do you consider them old enough/mature enough to look after
> the
> others? I am sure there will be lots of different answers here, but I
> am
> curious to what/how/why others deal with this important part of
> growing
> up?
>
> thanks much,
> Susan
>
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 04:07 PM, The White's wrote:
>
> > << In a message dated 11/6/02 Sandra wrote:
> >
> > Maybe ask Dillon to help you plan some days, so that HE will know
> when
> > and how long you and the rest will be out of the house. >>
> >
> > I see 2 problems.
> >
> > One, our days go mostly unplanned, especially now that I have a bum
> > leg! Once a week we drive to town, which is over an hour away, for
> the
> > kids to do music and dance lessons while I visit my Mom. Other than
> > that our lives are serendipity. (maybe that's part of the problem,
> too
> > little planning???)
> >
> > And two, I'm not sure I'm ready to leave him at home alone yet...at
> > least for more than 30 minutes or so. And there's nothing we can
> do in
> > that amount of time being so far away from anything. I have talked
> my
> > husband into letting him do alot of things recently that he didn't
> feel
> > Dillon was ready for, like starting the fire in the woodstove,
> driving
> > my Walmart electric chair back into the store, etc. I will have to
> > jump the hurdle of my husband to leave Dillon alone. But he is
> > maturing and needs to feel like it. His favorite time is at night
> when
> > he is the only one up, locking up and turning off lights. He wants
> to
> > "teach" his sister things but approaches it in his own "pedantic"
> way,
> > so she hears nothing :-)
> >
> > I'll talk to my husband more about adding responsibilities and
> freedoms
> > and see how that goes. Sounds like you hit it right on. Last
> night he
> > fussed at me about not trusting him when we were in Walmart, I
> should
> > have understood then that he was fussing about more than driving the
> > electric chair.
> >
> > But, really, are you sure it will pass?!?!?! BWEG
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
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> Susan
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http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/confess.html
Do you carry feelings of guilt because of your lusts for Alan
Rickman? Well, we are
here to help!
Now you can confess your sins to the
Rickmaniac Reverend.
All confessions will be kept in the
strictest confidence.
And then, when you've confessed, go to
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/index.html
Which is the Alan Rickman Addicts Survival Kit Page.
Enjoy.
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"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Do you carry feelings of guilt because of your lusts for Alan
Rickman? Well, we are
here to help!
Now you can confess your sins to the
Rickmaniac Reverend.
All confessions will be kept in the
strictest confidence.
And then, when you've confessed, go to
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/index.html
Which is the Alan Rickman Addicts Survival Kit Page.
Enjoy.
Shyrley
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In a message dated 11/7/02 6:32:26 AM, myrandab@... writes:
<< My 7 yr old often is in the middle of doing something and does not want to
stop when the rest of us want to go for a walk or across the way to Nana's
house. So I let him stay, while we go do whatever. He's never been left
longer than 20 minutes, and I'm almost always within sight of the house. I
always tell him which direction I'm going, so he can come get me or join us
if he wants to. So far, he's never done anything he shouldn't or anything
dangerous, and if he keeps it up, I imagine I'd be able to leave him alone
for trips to the store, etc in a couple of years. I'd never ask him to be
responsible for someone else, though. >>
Holly wanted to stay home as early as six, when I would go to the store which
was two blocks away. She LOVED it. We would discuss where she would go if
she needed help, and how far to be from the house in emergencies. Our house
has four doors to the outside, which makes me feel much better about a kid
getting out than any two-door house. She always had phone numbers of people
she could call if she just wanted to talk to an adult, too.
I never had one bit of worry or trouble.
Sandra
<< My 7 yr old often is in the middle of doing something and does not want to
stop when the rest of us want to go for a walk or across the way to Nana's
house. So I let him stay, while we go do whatever. He's never been left
longer than 20 minutes, and I'm almost always within sight of the house. I
always tell him which direction I'm going, so he can come get me or join us
if he wants to. So far, he's never done anything he shouldn't or anything
dangerous, and if he keeps it up, I imagine I'd be able to leave him alone
for trips to the store, etc in a couple of years. I'd never ask him to be
responsible for someone else, though. >>
Holly wanted to stay home as early as six, when I would go to the store which
was two blocks away. She LOVED it. We would discuss where she would go if
she needed help, and how far to be from the house in emergencies. Our house
has four doors to the outside, which makes me feel much better about a kid
getting out than any two-door house. She always had phone numbers of people
she could call if she just wanted to talk to an adult, too.
I never had one bit of worry or trouble.
Sandra
Kelli Traaseth
Oh Man! Toooo funny!! I love him!! Ahhhhh
Kelli, having to catch my breath after looking at that photo of him, Wahoo!
Shyrley <shyrley.williams@...> wrote:
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/confess.html
Do you carry feelings of guilt because of your lusts for Alan
Rickman? Well, we are
here to help!
Now you can confess your sins to the
Rickmaniac Reverend.
All confessions will be kept in the
strictest confidence.
And then, when you've confessed, go to
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/index.html
Which is the Alan Rickman Addicts Survival Kit Page.
Enjoy.
Shyrley
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Kelli, having to catch my breath after looking at that photo of him, Wahoo!
Shyrley <shyrley.williams@...> wrote:
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/confess.html
Do you carry feelings of guilt because of your lusts for Alan
Rickman? Well, we are
here to help!
Now you can confess your sins to the
Rickmaniac Reverend.
All confessions will be kept in the
strictest confidence.
And then, when you've confessed, go to
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/index.html
Which is the Alan Rickman Addicts Survival Kit Page.
Enjoy.
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That is a really cool site!!!!
From the quotes:
"Alan Rickman is, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind."
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/quote.html
And there are other really good quotes.
From the quotes:
"Alan Rickman is, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind."
http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/quote.html
And there are other really good quotes.
[email protected]
OK, I'll bite. Who is Alan Rickman?
Kevin
SandraDodd@...
11/07/2002 10:33 AM
Please respond to Unschooling-dotcom
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That is a really cool site!!!!
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I'd like to know,too.I was too chicken that I would be the only one that didn't know. :)
Renee
kevin.tucker@... wrote:OK, I'll bite. Who is Alan Rickman?
Kevin
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kevin.tucker@... wrote:OK, I'll bite. Who is Alan Rickman?
Kevin
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http://www.geocities.com/carriekaye/quote.html
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Oh, you poor man, you don't know?<g>
Kelli
kevin.tucker@... wrote:OK, I'll bite. Who is Alan Rickman?
Kevin
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From the quotes:
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kevin.tucker@... wrote:OK, I'll bite. Who is Alan Rickman?
Kevin
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That is a really cool site!!!!
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on 11/7/02 1:10 PM, Nicole Nichol at mom23princess@... wrote:
in Galaxy Quest.
Joyce
> I'd like to know,too.I was too chicken that I would be the only one thatHe plays Snape in Harry Potter. Also played the actor who played the alien
> didn't know. :)
in Galaxy Quest.
Joyce
susan marie
Die Hard? wasn't he that great villain in that?
s.
s.
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 01:57 PM, Fetteroll wrote:
> on 11/7/02 1:10 PM, Nicole Nichol at mom23princess@... wrote:
>
> > I'd like to know,too.I was too chicken that I would be the only one
> that
> > didn't know. :)
>
> He plays Snape in Harry Potter. Also played the actor who played the
> alien
> in Galaxy Quest.
>
> Joyce
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Kelli Traaseth
Yes, and in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves(the sheriff), that's where I fell for him.
Speaking of churches, I suppose we could start an Alan Rickman church? <g>
I would probably fit right in there!
Kelli
susan marie <scribblers2@...> wrote:Die Hard? wasn't he that great villain in that?
s.
Speaking of churches, I suppose we could start an Alan Rickman church? <g>
I would probably fit right in there!
Kelli
susan marie <scribblers2@...> wrote:Die Hard? wasn't he that great villain in that?
s.
On Thursday, November 7, 2002, at 01:57 PM, Fetteroll wrote:
> on 11/7/02 1:10 PM, Nicole Nichol at mom23princess@... wrote:
>
> > I'd like to know,too.I was too chicken that I would be the only one
> that
> > didn't know. :)
>
> He plays Snape in Harry Potter. Also played the actor who played the
> alien
> in Galaxy Quest.
>
> Joyce
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On 7 Nov 02, at 10:26, Kelli Traaseth wrote:
Mind you, you might not find him that letchworthy.....
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>You been living in the dark ages Kevin?
> Oh, you poor man, you don't know?<g>
> Kelli
> kevin.tucker@... wrote:OK, I'll bite. Who is Alan Rickman?
>
> Kevin
>
>
Mind you, you might not find him that letchworthy.....
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Shyrley
On 7 Nov 02, at 12:02, Kelli Traaseth wrote:
All ya had to do to be 'saved' is watch Rickman films and drool.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>That would work.
> Yes, and in Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves(the sheriff), that's where
> I fell for him.
>
> Speaking of churches, I suppose we could start an Alan Rickman
> church? <g> I would probably fit right in there!
>
> Kelli
>
All ya had to do to be 'saved' is watch Rickman films and drool.
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
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OK, OK! I did a Google Search on him and found out that he's an actor! I
promise I won't ask before I Google again! And no, I don't find him
"letchworthy" (I like that word!)
Kevin
promise I won't ask before I Google again! And no, I don't find him
"letchworthy" (I like that word!)
Kevin
On 7 Nov 02, at 10:26, Kelli Traaseth wrote:
>
> Oh, you poor man, you don't know?<g>
> Kelli
> kevin.tucker@... wrote:OK, I'll bite. Who is Alan Rickman?
>
> Kevin
>
>
You been living in the dark ages Kevin?
Mind you, you might not find him that letchworthy.....
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all
the same."
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Yeah, now I now who you mean! I didn't know his name, but my 11 year old
daughter is the one who suddenly said (about a month ago) while we were
watching Harry Potter for the umteenth time "Hey Snape is the same guy from
Galaxy Quest!"
Everyone rewound the movie and checked it out. I couldn't believe that I
never caught it before that! :-) I with that some other adults could
realize that our children can teach us a lot of time (or most of the time)
:-)
Tammy
daughter is the one who suddenly said (about a month ago) while we were
watching Harry Potter for the umteenth time "Hey Snape is the same guy from
Galaxy Quest!"
Everyone rewound the movie and checked it out. I couldn't believe that I
never caught it before that! :-) I with that some other adults could
realize that our children can teach us a lot of time (or most of the time)
:-)
Tammy
> He plays Snape in Harry Potter. Also played the actor who played the alien[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> in Galaxy Quest.
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In a message dated 11/7/02 12:15:36 PM, scribblers2@... writes:
<< He plays Snape in Harry Potter. Also played the actor who played the
all time.
<< He plays Snape in Harry Potter. Also played the actor who played the
> alienHe was the best Sheriff of Nottingham EVER in the worst Robin Hood movie of
> in Galaxy Quest. >>
all time.
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In a message dated 11/7/02 1:58:50 PM, kevin.tucker@... writes:
<< OK, OK! I did a Google Search on him and found out that he's an actor! I
promise I won't ask before I Google again! And no, I don't find him
"letchworthy" (I like that word!) >>
The first couple of movies I saw him in, I had no attraction whatsoever.
Robin Hood I honestly could not watch--I went to the lobby and played video
games, and I'm a lifelong medieval nut. That is one movie I really, really
hate. I guess I need to rent it and just watch the sheriff's scenes. But
that UGLY GUY keeps coming in, that guy they hired who can hardly act.
Dogma, I didn't like him.
The first time I was really impressed with his acting was Galaxy Quest.
After they situation becomes really busy ('the chase scene,' as it were) he
starts to be the star of the show for a while!!! Stunningly.
And then I started watching more carefully, loved him in Harry Potter, and
Shyrley's devotion touched my soul and I thought "If Shyrley feels this str
ongly about him, there must be something there," and I looked again with an
open heart and I guess I'll join her church.
Sandra
<< OK, OK! I did a Google Search on him and found out that he's an actor! I
promise I won't ask before I Google again! And no, I don't find him
"letchworthy" (I like that word!) >>
The first couple of movies I saw him in, I had no attraction whatsoever.
Robin Hood I honestly could not watch--I went to the lobby and played video
games, and I'm a lifelong medieval nut. That is one movie I really, really
hate. I guess I need to rent it and just watch the sheriff's scenes. But
that UGLY GUY keeps coming in, that guy they hired who can hardly act.
Dogma, I didn't like him.
The first time I was really impressed with his acting was Galaxy Quest.
After they situation becomes really busy ('the chase scene,' as it were) he
starts to be the star of the show for a while!!! Stunningly.
And then I started watching more carefully, loved him in Harry Potter, and
Shyrley's devotion touched my soul and I thought "If Shyrley feels this str
ongly about him, there must be something there," and I looked again with an
open heart and I guess I'll join her church.
Sandra
Shyrley
On 7 Nov 02, at 16:31, SandraDodd@... wrote:
embaressing.
Rickman had the best lines too.
'I'm going to cut his heart out with a spoon!'
'Why a spoon m'lord?'
'Because it will hurt more!'
:-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>He was the only reason I watched that movie. Costner was
> In a message dated 11/7/02 12:15:36 PM, scribblers2@...
> writes:
>
> << He plays Snape in Harry Potter. Also played the actor who played
> the > alien > in Galaxy Quest. >>
>
> He was the best Sheriff of Nottingham EVER in the worst Robin Hood
> movie of all time.
embaressing.
Rickman had the best lines too.
'I'm going to cut his heart out with a spoon!'
'Why a spoon m'lord?'
'Because it will hurt more!'
:-)
Shyrley
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
Shyrley
On 7 Nov 02, at 16:42, SandraDodd@... wrote:
Shyrley who really is just a letch
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."
>Awwwwwwwwww, shucks.
> The first couple of movies I saw him in, I had no attraction
> whatsoever. Robin Hood I honestly could not watch--I went to the
> lobby and played video games, and I'm a lifelong medieval nut. That
> is one movie I really, really hate. I guess I need to rent it and
> just watch the sheriff's scenes. But that UGLY GUY keeps coming in,
> that guy they hired who can hardly act.
>
> Dogma, I didn't like him.
>
> The first time I was really impressed with his acting was Galaxy
> Quest. After they situation becomes really busy ('the chase scene,'
> as it were) he starts to be the star of the show for a while!!!
> Stunningly.
>
> And then I started watching more carefully, loved him in Harry Potter,
> and Shyrley's devotion touched my soul and I thought "If Shyrley feels
> this str ongly about him, there must be something there," and I looked
> again with an open heart and I guess I'll join her church.
>
> Sandra
>
Shyrley who really is just a letch
"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."