kayb85

As I've shared before, my daughter and I are really into this project
of getting petitions signed so that scooters and skateboards aren't
banned. Well, we figured that in order to get finished in time, we
need to work some during the day, even when dh isn't home to watch
the boys (ages 5 and 3).

Sunday we tried and had to quit after the first block. They couldn't
stop fighting. They were loud and fighting and uncooperative, and it
wouldn't have made a good impression on anyone we're asking to sign.
I pulled them in the wagon, had drinks and snacks along. I explained
to them that I was doing this so they could keep riding their
scooters (even they like their scooters). When we got home, dd cried
and cried about not being able to get the petitions done, told her
brothers she couldn't stand them, etc.

I was frustrated, because I wanted to help all my kids do what they
wanted. My daughter desperately wanted to be out doing this, my boys
obviously did not.

Some days I'm able to take them to my mother in law's, which they
like. I can't do that every day though.

So we tried it again today. I offered them change for their coin
country ( a book that helps kids save their change, and when it's all
filled up they have $20). My 5 year old really wants to fill his
coin country up because he knows he'll be able to buy a Thomas engine
when it's filled. The deal was that if they didn't fight and let dd
and I knock on doors, they would get the change. Again, I pulled
them around in their wagon and they had juice cups along. We didn't
even get to finish the block this time, they were so bad. Again, dd
is upset, crying that we'll never get done, telling her brothers that
she'll never play with them again, etc.

I'm at the peak of frustration now. My son just came up to me
whining about something and I just had to tell him that I was really
upset right now and couldn't talk at the moment. I felt bad doing
that, but I didn't know what else I was able to do...

Sheila

Myranda

How about let your daughter work on making signs? I bet places like the library, local gas stations, and other local businesses would let her put a sign up asking people to contact whoever it is that is pushing for this law, and tell them that they are against it. That would get the news of the bill out and hopefully get more objections to it pouring in, it would be something constructive for her to do so she doesn't feel like she's just waiting around doing nothing, and when she's done with a bunch, you can load all the kids up in the car and let her run the signs into stores and ask to put them up while you wait outside with the boys. If you don't mind putting your phone number on it, it could even have people contact you to add their names to the petition.
Myranda

As I've shared before, my daughter and I are really into this project
of getting petitions signed so that scooters and skateboards aren't
banned. Well, we figured that in order to get finished in time, we
need to work some during the day, even when dh isn't home to watch
the boys (ages 5 and 3).

Sunday we tried and had to quit after the first block. They couldn't
stop fighting. They were loud and fighting and uncooperative, and it
wouldn't have made a good impression on anyone we're asking to sign.
I pulled them in the wagon, had drinks and snacks along. I explained
to them that I was doing this so they could keep riding their
scooters (even they like their scooters). When we got home, dd cried
and cried about not being able to get the petitions done, told her
brothers she couldn't stand them, etc.

I was frustrated, because I wanted to help all my kids do what they
wanted. My daughter desperately wanted to be out doing this, my boys
obviously did not.

Some days I'm able to take them to my mother in law's, which they
like. I can't do that every day though.

So we tried it again today. I offered them change for their coin
country ( a book that helps kids save their change, and when it's all
filled up they have $20). My 5 year old really wants to fill his
coin country up because he knows he'll be able to buy a Thomas engine
when it's filled. The deal was that if they didn't fight and let dd
and I knock on doors, they would get the change. Again, I pulled
them around in their wagon and they had juice cups along. We didn't
even get to finish the block this time, they were so bad. Again, dd
is upset, crying that we'll never get done, telling her brothers that
she'll never play with them again, etc.

I'm at the peak of frustration now. My son just came up to me
whining about something and I just had to tell him that I was really
upset right now and couldn't talk at the moment. I felt bad doing
that, but I didn't know what else I was able to do...

Sheila



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Peggy

How about something for them to do in the wagon while they ride
around? Do you have a stroller instead? Can the five year old walk a
bit? Can you think of a job for him or both of them to do? Going
around in a wagon should be fun. Why are they bored?

Peggy


kayb85 wrote:
>
> As I've shared before, my daughter and I are really into this project
> of getting petitions signed so that scooters and skateboards aren't
> banned. Well, we figured that in order to get finished in time, we
> need to work some during the day, even when dh isn't home to watch
> the boys (ages 5 and 3).
>
> Sunday we tried and had to quit after the first block. They couldn't
> stop fighting. They were loud and fighting and uncooperative, and it
> wouldn't have made a good impression on anyone we're asking to sign.
> I pulled them in the wagon, had drinks and snacks along. I explained
> to them that I was doing this so they could keep riding their
> scooters (even they like their scooters). When we got home, dd cried
> and cried about not being able to get the petitions done, told her
> brothers she couldn't stand them, etc.
>
> I was frustrated, because I wanted to help all my kids do what they
> wanted. My daughter desperately wanted to be out doing this, my boys
> obviously did not.
>
> Some days I'm able to take them to my mother in law's, which they
> like. I can't do that every day though.
>
> So we tried it again today. I offered them change for their coin
> country ( a book that helps kids save their change, and when it's all
> filled up they have $20). My 5 year old really wants to fill his
> coin country up because he knows he'll be able to buy a Thomas engine
> when it's filled. The deal was that if they didn't fight and let dd
> and I knock on doors, they would get the change. Again, I pulled
> them around in their wagon and they had juice cups along. We didn't
> even get to finish the block this time, they were so bad. Again, dd
> is upset, crying that we'll never get done, telling her brothers that
> she'll never play with them again, etc.
>
> I'm at the peak of frustration now. My son just came up to me
> whining about something and I just had to tell him that I was really
> upset right now and couldn't talk at the moment. I felt bad doing
> that, but I didn't know what else I was able to do...
>
> Sheila
>
>
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kayb85

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Peggy <peggy@l...> wrote:
> How about something for them to do in the wagon while they ride
> around? Do you have a stroller instead? Can the five year old walk a
> bit? Can you think of a job for him or both of them to do? Going
> around in a wagon should be fun. Why are they bored?
>
> Peggy

My boys are homebodies. They like to be home. I took the wagon
instead of the stroller because the 5 year old said that he didn't
want to walk around.

But the biggest part of the problem is that my kids fight a lot!

Sheila

Peggy

Sheila

> My boys are homebodies. They like to be home. I took the wagon
> instead of the stroller because the 5 year old said that he didn't
> want to walk around.
>
> But the biggest part of the problem is that my kids fight a lot!
>
> Sheila

Sitting a small wagon together for a while while mom and big sister
do the "important stuff" sounds like a recipe for getting
frustrated. How about your daughter pushes the four year old in the
stroller while you pull the wagon? Or is that too much for her? That
way, the five year old could get out and walk at times if he needed
to. Maybe he could carry a sign that says, "Kid's for skateboards!"
;)

My youngest is a homebody too. Doesn't mean she can't have a good
time when we go out, just means it takes a bit more work on my part.

Peggy

Betsy

**But the biggest part of the problem is that my kids fight a lot! **

Separate wagons? Borrow one that your nine your old can pull? Or would
they fight about who had the better "ride"?

Betsy

Mica

Sheila wrote:
> But the biggest part of the problem is that my kids fight a lot!

Have you read Siblings without Rivalry by Adele Faber and Elaine
Mazlish? It might be worth a review to see if any of the perspectives
they offer apply to your situation.

Mica
ghal9720@...
Stawell, Victoria, Australia

kayb85

Thanks for all the input on my frustrating situation! Hopefully I'll
be able to avoid taking the boys out with us again, but if I have to
maybe some of your suggestions will help.

Mica, I've seen the book mentioned before on this list. I went ahead
and ordered it at half.com. Thanks!

Sheila



--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Mica" <ghal9720@b...> wrote:
> Sheila wrote:
> > But the biggest part of the problem is that my kids fight a lot!
>
> Have you read Siblings without Rivalry by Adele Faber and Elaine
> Mazlish? It might be worth a review to see if any of the
perspectives
> they offer apply to your situation.
>
> Mica
> ghal9720@b...
> Stawell, Victoria, Australia