[email protected]

In a message dated 10/25/02 12:47:35 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< UG! This whole post is just really, really repulsive to me. Do you have
any idea what kind of crap people do to their kids out there? Is it okay
for parents to make their kids drink piss because they forgot to flush
the toilet? How about beating them bloody for not brushing their hair
right and then locking them in a hot, stuffy attic room for 3 days with
no bathroom and no food? Is that really all okay with God? If he
intentionally places kids with those parents then he's one sick bastard. >>

AMEN Dar!!
I feel that posts like that are purposely inflammatory at this list and the
poster damn well knows it.
Maybe it's your view, but it is not appropriate here and that should be
obvious at this point.
Sick.

Ren

Fetteroll

on 10/25/02 11:27 AM, starsuncloud@... at starsuncloud@... wrote:

> I feel that posts like that are purposely inflammatory at this list and the
> poster damn well knows it.
> Maybe it's your view, but it is not appropriate here and that should be
> obvious at this point.
> Sick.

And I think it's best to give people the benefit of the doubt about their
motivations.

In my teens and 20's my world view was that there were regular people and
abnormal people. If I made a statement about how people should behave, it
applied just to regular people.

The statement "Parents have a right to raise their children as they see fit"
is, I'm thinking, intended to apply only to people who are fit to be
parents. Others are abusers and need dealt with separately.

So the thought that abusers are not included is automatically implied in
this way of thinking.

(And, yes, it's making my head spin trying to get my thinking back to that
mode!)

What's also making it more difficult to discuss is that there are different
definitions of abuse being used also.

Perhaps at the heart is a disagreement on the degree of damage that
spanking, verbal lashings, yelling, being removed from the home, etc. have
on a child.

Joyce