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<<Julie--with 4 dogs, 6 goats, 30 chickens, 10 rabbits, 1 cat and 1
newborn
rat>>
Julie, how did you come by the newborn rat? We have three right now and
are planning on getting 4 more, two boy and two girls so we can have a
litter of pups (once we are sure we have good home for them first).
Have you had rats before? I highly recommend getting your rat a same sex
friend, they are very social and being alone is hard for them. We are
crazy-in-love with ratties in this house!
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rat>>
Julie, how did you come by the newborn rat? We have three right now and
are planning on getting 4 more, two boy and two girls so we can have a
litter of pups (once we are sure we have good home for them first).
Have you had rats before? I highly recommend getting your rat a same sex
friend, they are very social and being alone is hard for them. We are
crazy-in-love with ratties in this house!
Kris
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:52:39 -0700 louisam1@... writes:
got a female as a companion for our first rat and she turned out to be
about 3 days pregnant. We put her daughter in our lovely 3 level cage
with her mom and Mary (rat #1) but the two boys are sharing a cage that's
really too small for them, and 5 rats is really too much for us. We
thought they had a new home when they were younger but the person sort of
flaked.
They are very nice...one is a hooded rat named Robin Hood, and the other
has buff-colored fur with a barely visible white mark on his forehead and
red eyes. His name is Tortoise, because he's always been slower and less
daring than his brother.
Nana, BTW, loves watching the rats. She was jumping on the coffee table
during the night and then putting her paws up on the cage, but we were
worried that the whole thing would fall over so we put the keyboard on
the coffee table last night and left it on (on the Dog Pianist setting,
of course) and in the middle of the night we heard music and then running
feet... so I think it worked.
Dar, north of Sacramento...
> Julie, how did you come by the newborn rat? We have three right nowWhere do you live? We have two male rats who really need a new home - we
> and
> are planning on getting 4 more, two boy and two girls so we can have
> a
> litter of pups (once we are sure we have good home for them first).
got a female as a companion for our first rat and she turned out to be
about 3 days pregnant. We put her daughter in our lovely 3 level cage
with her mom and Mary (rat #1) but the two boys are sharing a cage that's
really too small for them, and 5 rats is really too much for us. We
thought they had a new home when they were younger but the person sort of
flaked.
They are very nice...one is a hooded rat named Robin Hood, and the other
has buff-colored fur with a barely visible white mark on his forehead and
red eyes. His name is Tortoise, because he's always been slower and less
daring than his brother.
Nana, BTW, loves watching the rats. She was jumping on the coffee table
during the night and then putting her paws up on the cage, but we were
worried that the whole thing would fall over so we put the keyboard on
the coffee table last night and left it on (on the Dog Pianist setting,
of course) and in the middle of the night we heard music and then running
feet... so I think it worked.
Dar, north of Sacramento...
Mary Bianco
>From: louisam1@...<<Julie, how did you come by the newborn rat? We have three right now and
are planning on getting 4 more, two boy and two girls so we can have a
litter of pups (once we are sure we have good home for them first).>>
I have a good home for them. Our Boa! Hey, he has to eat too!!!
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<<<<Julie, how did you come by the newborn rat? We have three right now
and
are planning on getting 4 more, two boy and two girls so we can have a
litter of pups (once we are sure we have good home for them first).>>
I have a good home for them. Our Boa! Hey, he has to eat too!!!
Mary B>>
Mary, I've had a snake and fed it mice too, which is why I no longer have
a snake. Our little girls are the best pets ever will never see the
inside of a reptile.
A word of warning though, saying something like that to an avid fancy rat
breeder or keeper might be "fightin words". The condition of getting a
rat from a good breeder is that they or their offspring will never be
"feeders". I don't think most snake owners would want to pay $20 to $30
for a feeder anyway.
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are planning on getting 4 more, two boy and two girls so we can have a
litter of pups (once we are sure we have good home for them first).>>
I have a good home for them. Our Boa! Hey, he has to eat too!!!
Mary B>>
Mary, I've had a snake and fed it mice too, which is why I no longer have
a snake. Our little girls are the best pets ever will never see the
inside of a reptile.
A word of warning though, saying something like that to an avid fancy rat
breeder or keeper might be "fightin words". The condition of getting a
rat from a good breeder is that they or their offspring will never be
"feeders". I don't think most snake owners would want to pay $20 to $30
for a feeder anyway.
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<<Where do you live? We have two male rats who really need a new home -
we
got a female as a companion for our first rat and she turned out to be
about 3 days pregnant. We put her daughter in our lovely 3 level cage
with her mom and Mary (rat #1) but the two boys are sharing a cage that's
really too small for them, and 5 rats is really too much for us. We
thought they had a new home when they were younger but the person sort of
flaked.
They are very nice...one is a hooded rat named Robin Hood, and the other
has buff-colored fur with a barely visible white mark on his forehead and
red eyes. His name is Tortoise, because he's always been slower and less
daring than his brother.
Nana, BTW, loves watching the rats. She was jumping on the coffee table
during the night and then putting her paws up on the cage, but we were
worried that the whole thing would fall over so we put the keyboard on
the coffee table last night and left it on (on the Dog Pianist setting,
of course) and in the middle of the night we heard music and then running
feet... so I think it worked.
Dar, north of Sacramento...>>
Hi Dar
We are all the way in Lake Oswego, OR, about 15 min south of Portland. I
wish we were close enough, we would probably take in every rat in need of
a home if it was in our power. We are limited in space too and part of
the deal in getting the rats to breed is that we have enough large cages
for all of them.
We just scored a very nice ferret cage from PetSmart, it was marked half
off because of some minor dents and it even included a hammock! Now we
need to buy or build one about the same size for our intended boys.
Average rat litters are about 12 so we have to line up enough homes for
most of them, we will be keeping 4 ourselves. Lanora is very committed
to this endeavor and has been researching rat care, homemade cages and
breeding. She has even begun a recycling business to generate money for
vet costs. I'm impressed by her dedication.
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we
got a female as a companion for our first rat and she turned out to be
about 3 days pregnant. We put her daughter in our lovely 3 level cage
with her mom and Mary (rat #1) but the two boys are sharing a cage that's
really too small for them, and 5 rats is really too much for us. We
thought they had a new home when they were younger but the person sort of
flaked.
They are very nice...one is a hooded rat named Robin Hood, and the other
has buff-colored fur with a barely visible white mark on his forehead and
red eyes. His name is Tortoise, because he's always been slower and less
daring than his brother.
Nana, BTW, loves watching the rats. She was jumping on the coffee table
during the night and then putting her paws up on the cage, but we were
worried that the whole thing would fall over so we put the keyboard on
the coffee table last night and left it on (on the Dog Pianist setting,
of course) and in the middle of the night we heard music and then running
feet... so I think it worked.
Dar, north of Sacramento...>>
Hi Dar
We are all the way in Lake Oswego, OR, about 15 min south of Portland. I
wish we were close enough, we would probably take in every rat in need of
a home if it was in our power. We are limited in space too and part of
the deal in getting the rats to breed is that we have enough large cages
for all of them.
We just scored a very nice ferret cage from PetSmart, it was marked half
off because of some minor dents and it even included a hammock! Now we
need to buy or build one about the same size for our intended boys.
Average rat litters are about 12 so we have to line up enough homes for
most of them, we will be keeping 4 ourselves. Lanora is very committed
to this endeavor and has been researching rat care, homemade cages and
breeding. She has even begun a recycling business to generate money for
vet costs. I'm impressed by her dedication.
Kris
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>From: louisam1@...<<Mary, I've had a snake and fed it mice too, which is why I no longer have
a snake. Our little girls are the best pets ever will never see the inside
of a reptile.
A word of warning though, saying something like that to an avid fancy rat
breeder or keeper might be "fightin words". The condition of getting a rat
from a good breeder is that they or their offspring will never be "feeders".
I don't think most snake owners would want to pay $20 to $30 for a feeder
anyway.>>
Oops, sorry, I was just trying to make a joke. I would never buy a "pet" to
become a feeder. And no I wouldn't pay even 10 dollars for snake food. In
fact, 2 weeks ago, there was a rat by our garbage cans and my husband was
yelling for me to get him something so he could cathc free food for Rocky.
(the snake) Now what am I suppose to get to catch a wild rat that is running
along our fence???
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I would love to hear more about rats. We went to the library and got
books on rats and read alot. We chose a young male rat and for the first
little bit he was pretty sweet. I figured it was his settling in period.
But pretty soon he was nipping us, even when we were careful to wash our
hands so no food smell was on them.
I can not figure what we did wrong. We bought a really large homemade
wood and wire cage that allowed tons of room and he had lots of climbing
room.
I found him another home as we had little ones and I was concerned they
would get their fingers nipped. Is it possible he did not have enough
physical attention or are males more aggressive?
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books on rats and read alot. We chose a young male rat and for the first
little bit he was pretty sweet. I figured it was his settling in period.
But pretty soon he was nipping us, even when we were careful to wash our
hands so no food smell was on them.
I can not figure what we did wrong. We bought a really large homemade
wood and wire cage that allowed tons of room and he had lots of climbing
room.
I found him another home as we had little ones and I was concerned they
would get their fingers nipped. Is it possible he did not have enough
physical attention or are males more aggressive?
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<<Oops, sorry, I was just trying to make a joke. I would never buy a
"pet" to
become a feeder. And no I wouldn't pay even 10 dollars for snake food. In
fact, 2 weeks ago, there was a rat by our garbage cans and my husband was
yelling for me to get him something so he could cathc free food for
Rocky.
(the snake) Now what am I suppose to get to catch a wild rat that is
running
along our fence???
Mary B>>
I knew you were joking. I've been researching rat breeders lately and
have noted how serious they are about some subjects, snakes being one of
them. LOL I love snakes and would like to have one that doesn't eat
rodents, just a hard thing for me to watch.
There is a site where you can order feeder mice and rats that are already
dead and they will ship them. The snake fanciers I know say it's
dangerous to feed them live rodents because they get injured by bites and
clawing.
What I really want is just a dog, no particular breed, just a dog.
Finances don't permit that just now but someday soon.
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"pet" to
become a feeder. And no I wouldn't pay even 10 dollars for snake food. In
fact, 2 weeks ago, there was a rat by our garbage cans and my husband was
yelling for me to get him something so he could cathc free food for
Rocky.
(the snake) Now what am I suppose to get to catch a wild rat that is
running
along our fence???
Mary B>>
I knew you were joking. I've been researching rat breeders lately and
have noted how serious they are about some subjects, snakes being one of
them. LOL I love snakes and would like to have one that doesn't eat
rodents, just a hard thing for me to watch.
There is a site where you can order feeder mice and rats that are already
dead and they will ship them. The snake fanciers I know say it's
dangerous to feed them live rodents because they get injured by bites and
clawing.
What I really want is just a dog, no particular breed, just a dog.
Finances don't permit that just now but someday soon.
Kris
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<<I would love to hear more about rats. We went to the library and got
books on rats and read alot. We chose a young male rat and for the first
little bit he was pretty sweet. I figured it was his settling in period.
But pretty soon he was nipping us, even when we were careful to wash our
hands so no food smell was on them.
I can not figure what we did wrong. We bought a really large homemade
wood and wire cage that allowed tons of room and he had lots of climbing
room.
I found him another home as we had little ones and I was concerned they
would get their fingers nipped. Is it possible he did not have enough
physical attention or are males more aggressive?
sharon>>
There is an excellent book on rat care written by "The Rat Lady", I will
have to check on the title and her actual name (Lanora is asleep and I
don't know where the book is).
However, if you are patient you can get most, if not all, of the same
information from web sites. Rat breeders usually have web sites and will
share any information they have.
Did your ratty bite when he was being held or just when a finger was
stuck in the cage? Usually they will learn to bite at fingers stuck in
the cage if treats are offered to them this way. This is why it's best
to never stick food through the cage bars, always open the door and offer
it that way. That way they know that a finger through the bars if for
petting.
Also, was it real biting or just testing? Our girls will "test" our
fingers but NEVER actually bite down. I can feel their teeth but it's a
very gentle pressure, I think they figure out it's skin, not food and
don't bite. Jonathan freaked out the first couple of times they did this
and pulled his finger away too fast, this caused a tiny scrape. Now he
knows they aren't going to bite and doesn't pull away, he thinks it's
hysterical to feel their little teeth on his skin.
Okay, I just thought of two web sites off the top of my head:
www. fuzzbutts.com
www.cheesyacres.com
You can also go to google and enter: fancy rat breeders
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books on rats and read alot. We chose a young male rat and for the first
little bit he was pretty sweet. I figured it was his settling in period.
But pretty soon he was nipping us, even when we were careful to wash our
hands so no food smell was on them.
I can not figure what we did wrong. We bought a really large homemade
wood and wire cage that allowed tons of room and he had lots of climbing
room.
I found him another home as we had little ones and I was concerned they
would get their fingers nipped. Is it possible he did not have enough
physical attention or are males more aggressive?
sharon>>
There is an excellent book on rat care written by "The Rat Lady", I will
have to check on the title and her actual name (Lanora is asleep and I
don't know where the book is).
However, if you are patient you can get most, if not all, of the same
information from web sites. Rat breeders usually have web sites and will
share any information they have.
Did your ratty bite when he was being held or just when a finger was
stuck in the cage? Usually they will learn to bite at fingers stuck in
the cage if treats are offered to them this way. This is why it's best
to never stick food through the cage bars, always open the door and offer
it that way. That way they know that a finger through the bars if for
petting.
Also, was it real biting or just testing? Our girls will "test" our
fingers but NEVER actually bite down. I can feel their teeth but it's a
very gentle pressure, I think they figure out it's skin, not food and
don't bite. Jonathan freaked out the first couple of times they did this
and pulled his finger away too fast, this caused a tiny scrape. Now he
knows they aren't going to bite and doesn't pull away, he thinks it's
hysterical to feel their little teeth on his skin.
Okay, I just thought of two web sites off the top of my head:
www. fuzzbutts.com
www.cheesyacres.com
You can also go to google and enter: fancy rat breeders
Kris
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Myranda
Are there any health issues with owning rats? Anything like iguanas (shouldn't be in the house with young children)? We tried hamsters, and that was a disaster. I still have all the hamster cages and play stuff and Tyler has been asking for some sort of little furry friend.
Myranda
From: louisam1@...
There is an excellent book on rat care written by "The Rat Lady", I will
have to check on the title and her actual name (Lanora is asleep and I
don't know where the book is).
However, if you are patient you can get most, if not all, of the same
information from web sites. Rat breeders usually have web sites and will
share any information they have.
Did your ratty bite when he was being held or just when a finger was
stuck in the cage? Usually they will learn to bite at fingers stuck in
the cage if treats are offered to them this way. This is why it's best
to never stick food through the cage bars, always open the door and offer
it that way. That way they know that a finger through the bars if for
petting.
Also, was it real biting or just testing? Our girls will "test" our
fingers but NEVER actually bite down. I can feel their teeth but it's a
very gentle pressure, I think they figure out it's skin, not food and
don't bite. Jonathan freaked out the first couple of times they did this
and pulled his finger away too fast, this caused a tiny scrape. Now he
knows they aren't going to bite and doesn't pull away, he thinks it's
hysterical to feel their little teeth on his skin.
Okay, I just thought of two web sites off the top of my head:
www. fuzzbutts.com
www.cheesyacres.com
You can also go to google and enter: fancy rat breeders
Kris
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From: louisam1@...
There is an excellent book on rat care written by "The Rat Lady", I will
have to check on the title and her actual name (Lanora is asleep and I
don't know where the book is).
However, if you are patient you can get most, if not all, of the same
information from web sites. Rat breeders usually have web sites and will
share any information they have.
Did your ratty bite when he was being held or just when a finger was
stuck in the cage? Usually they will learn to bite at fingers stuck in
the cage if treats are offered to them this way. This is why it's best
to never stick food through the cage bars, always open the door and offer
it that way. That way they know that a finger through the bars if for
petting.
Also, was it real biting or just testing? Our girls will "test" our
fingers but NEVER actually bite down. I can feel their teeth but it's a
very gentle pressure, I think they figure out it's skin, not food and
don't bite. Jonathan freaked out the first couple of times they did this
and pulled his finger away too fast, this caused a tiny scrape. Now he
knows they aren't going to bite and doesn't pull away, he thinks it's
hysterical to feel their little teeth on his skin.
Okay, I just thought of two web sites off the top of my head:
www. fuzzbutts.com
www.cheesyacres.com
You can also go to google and enter: fancy rat breeders
Kris
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My son would love an iguana....what have you heard about not being in a
family with small children? how small is small? My bil had one years ago
and it was very sedate. vegetarian and did little more than sit.
Myranda.....um....you wouldn't be interested in selling your hamster
stuff would you? we are looking for some.
have you thought of a guinea pig? they can be really sweet.
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family with small children? how small is small? My bil had one years ago
and it was very sedate. vegetarian and did little more than sit.
Myranda.....um....you wouldn't be interested in selling your hamster
stuff would you? we are looking for some.
have you thought of a guinea pig? they can be really sweet.
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>From: louisam1@...<<I knew you were joking. I've been researching rat breeders lately and
have noted how serious they are about some subjects, snakes being one of
them. LOL I love snakes and would like to have one that doesn't eat
rodents, just a hard thing for me to watch.
There is a site where you can order feeder mice and rats that are already
dead and they will ship them. The snake fanciers I know say it's
dangerous to feed them live rodents because they get injured by bites and
clawing.
What I really want is just a dog, no particular breed, just a dog.
Finances don't permit that just now but someday soon.>>
Well I never heard of ordering feeders by the internet, but why not, right??
I know I've been told that it's better to feed dead or stunned rats, but
unfortunately our Rocky won't eat unless alive and kicking.
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<<Are there any health issues with owning rats? Anything like iguanas
(shouldn't be in the house with young children)? We tried hamsters, and
that was a disaster. I still have all the hamster cages and play stuff
and Tyler has been asking for some sort of little furry friend.
Myranda>>
I have encountered two people who were allergic to rats but other than
that I don't know of any. Do as much research as you can on rat
healthcare because usually the ones with health concerns are the rats.
If you get your rats from a good breeder rather than the pet shop you'll
have better chances of getting healthier and friendlier rats.
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(shouldn't be in the house with young children)? We tried hamsters, and
that was a disaster. I still have all the hamster cages and play stuff
and Tyler has been asking for some sort of little furry friend.
Myranda>>
I have encountered two people who were allergic to rats but other than
that I don't know of any. Do as much research as you can on rat
healthcare because usually the ones with health concerns are the rats.
If you get your rats from a good breeder rather than the pet shop you'll
have better chances of getting healthier and friendlier rats.
Kris
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