[email protected]

In a message dated 10/18/2002 6:37:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
> It concerns me that almost no-one in my country (U.S.) is healthy.

"Almost no one"? REALLY?

Kelly


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Shyrley

On 18 Oct 02, at 8:13, kbcdlovejo@... wrote:

> In a message dated 10/18/2002 6:37:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
> > It concerns me that almost no-one in my country (U.S.) is healthy.
>
> "Almost no one"? REALLY?
>
> Kelly
>
My daughter is. As our my two sons. And my husband. I fail cos
of MS but that was caused by the dentist not my diet and lifestyle.
Perhaps it doesn't count cos we are brits living in the US and
haven't yet sampled junk food?
I think some people here would be more healthy if they didn't go to
the docs every five minutes for antibiotics. I feel another rant
coming on...

Shyrley


"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."

marji

> > In a message dated 10/18/2002 6:37:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [email protected] writes:
> > > It concerns me that almost no-one in my country (U.S.) is healthy.
> >
> > "Almost no one"? REALLY?
> >
> > Kelly

While I think that saying "almost no one in .... [the] U.S. is healthy" is
a gross generalization that is just not true, I also think that many
Americans tend to accept low-level poor health (like hypertension and high
cholesterol, arthritis, and other chronic problems caused by obesity, lack
of exercise and good air, and poor diet) as being okay. I don't know what
the exact numbers are, but I wouldn't be surprised if only very few people
were in their best condition. I think people accept feeling tired and
run-down all the time as the cost of long work days, etc., and they may
think they are in good enough health. They may forget that the vitality
they felt in their teens (if they did) can and should continue for a long,
long time at least into middle age and beyond.

Okay, rant over. I'll shut up now.

Marji

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the_clevengers

--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., kbcdlovejo@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 10/18/2002 6:37:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Unschooling-dotcom@y... writes:
> > It concerns me that almost no-one in my country (U.S.) is
healthy.
>
> "Almost no one"? REALLY?
>
> Kelly


REALLY! :-)

Yes, I mean healthy in the sense that their bodies are working at
their *optimum* level. I'd say easily less than 1% of people I know
or have met or seen are *healthy*.

The health club I used to go to did Body Age testing, where they
tested your body fat, evaluated your diet, put you on a treadmill and
ramped it up until you fell apart, tested your VO2Max (oxygen use),
etc. and then they told you what your actual bodily age was - as
opposed to the number of years you've lived on the planet.
Surprisingly, even most people who were tested there (people who had
bothered to go to a health club and be active in the first place) had
a bodily age *above* their chronological age. Often well above.

I'd say healthy means that if someone asked you to climb a mountain
tomorrow, you could do it. You could walk 20 miles if you needed to.
Healthy means being able to do anything a body your age should be
able to do. It means not getting every cold that comes along. It
means getting up every morning and feeling vital and alive. I heard a
woman, a healthy-looking woman, at the gym yesterday telling her
friend that every morning she had to have two cups of caffeine and
three ibuprofin or the stress she's under gives her a monster
headache. *every day*. That's not healthy. Out of a friend's 6
siblings (all in their 30's or early 40's), one has had a heart
attack, two already have diabetes, all are out of shape and
overweight. That's not healthy. But they're very typical Americans.

I know that not all things to do with health are necessarily in our
control. My body happens to just make thyroid cysts for no apparent
reason. Is this something congenital, or something caused by the
pesticides, fumes, etc. on our earth? A holdover from the diet sodas
I used to drink? I have no idea. People get cancers or diseases, or
are born with problems. These things happen. But overall, even people
free from diseases or afflictions or congenital problems are, for the
most part, not healthy. If Americans overall were healthy, the diet
industry wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar industry, there wouldn't
be an entire 50-foot-long aisle in the supermarket filled with
antacids, cold remedies, aspirin, ibuprofen, acetominophen, etc.

How many of us could get up at 5:00 in the morning, milk three cows,
carry the pails of milk back to the house, churn the cream into
butter, split the firewood, walk 6 miles to town to get the supplies
you need to sew all the dresses for your family for the next year?
That's what my great-grandma did.

I'd guess that my definition of healthy is maybe more rigorous than
what many people consider healthy. I'm not talking about just "not
sick" though, but optimum health. So yes, almost no-one.

Blue Skies,

-Robin-

Mary Bianco

<<It concerns me that almost no-one in my country (U.S.) is healthy.>>




Well we have 6 healthy people here. 7 if you count my mom who at 76 is going
very strong. She looks great too. My husband has a bad back but that's from
2 major car accidents. Aside from that, we are very healthy. Of course we
stay away from Dr.'s but not poptarts and blue gatorade!!!!


Mary B

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Mary Bianco

>From: "the_clevengers" <diamondair@...>

<<I'd say healthy means that if someone asked you to climb a mountain
tomorrow, you could do it. You could walk 20 miles if you needed to.
Healthy means being able to do anything a body your age should be
able to do. It means not getting every cold that comes along. It
means getting up every morning and feeling vital and alive. I heard a
woman, a healthy-looking woman, at the gym yesterday telling her
friend that every morning she had to have two cups of caffeine and
three ibuprofin or the stress she's under gives her a monster
headache. *every day*. That's not healthy. Out of a friend's 6
siblings (all in their 30's or early 40's), one has had a heart
attack, two already have diabetes, all are out of shape and
overweight. That's not healthy. But they're very typical Americans.>>


Okay, we still have 7 here who fit your bill. IF, we get one cold a year,
that's a lot. Even my oldest who goes to school, never gets sick. Maybe once
every few years with a cold. And if we do get a bug, it's passed us in a few
days, really. As far as climbing a mountain, I wouldn't want to chance it as
I've had no training and that's not the kind of thing one just does. But
walking a mountain trail or something, no problem. And it's not something we
do, but we could if we had to.



<<How many of us could get up at 5:00 in the morning, milk three cows,
carry the pails of milk back to the house, churn the cream into
butter, split the firewood, walk 6 miles to town to get the supplies
you need to sew all the dresses for your family for the next year?
That's what my great-grandma did.>>


That's pretty much what your great grandma had to do. I remember my grandma
walking all over the place well in her 70's when she was offered rides. She
didn't take them because that's not what she was use to. She walked
everywhere and far too. If we had to live like that or wanted to, yes we
could do that too. It would be a matter of time and getting use to it, but
our bodies could handle it I'm sure.

As far as saying most people aren't healthy in this country, I would a gree
that a lot aren't. But I couldn't say most as I don't know most people.

Mary B


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Peggy

I think need a nap just reading this. ;) LP