the f word
zenmomma *
>>On that note, is anyone else bothered my the freely used "f" wordon these postings? I am very surprised to see it used so freely by
women today. Or am I the only one it bothers?????>>
I doesn't bother me. For me, it's just another word. I get bothered when
words of any kind are used to hurt though. So "You're an idiot!" would
bother me more than "What the f**k?" coming out of anyone's mouth. I know
I'm usually in a minority on this one. Lots of people get bothered by the
words themselves.
Life is good.
~Mary
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Mary Bianco
>From: "zenmomma *" <zenmomma@...>I feel the same way. There are many words that people think are totally
>I doesn't bother me. For me, it's just another word. I get bothered when
>words of any kind are used to hurt though. So "You're an idiot!" would
>bother me more than "What the f**k?" coming out of anyone's mouth. I know
>I'm usually in a minority on this one. Lots of people get bothered by the
>words themselves.
acceptable to use that bother me. The swear words, if not hurtful to
someone, don't phase me. Although I do watch who's around when I use them!
<BG>
Mary B
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MO Milligans
At 02:16 PM 9/10/02 -0600, you wrote:
Gosh, that's how I feel about it too :) How do you (the universal you) feel
about your kids using it (or other such words for that matter)? For us, if
they us the words *in context* and not as a slur, or insult, then we're
okay with them saying them. Oddly enough, it *very* rare for them to use
swear words anyway.
Todd
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>For me, it's just another word.==
Gosh, that's how I feel about it too :) How do you (the universal you) feel
about your kids using it (or other such words for that matter)? For us, if
they us the words *in context* and not as a slur, or insult, then we're
okay with them saying them. Oddly enough, it *very* rare for them to use
swear words anyway.
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
Lisa M. C. Bentley
> On that note, is anyone else bothered my the freely used "f" wordAll use of derogatory terms (no matter the the actual word) used in
> on these postings? I am very surprised to see it used so freely by
> women today. Or am I the only one it bothers?????>>
hateful and mean ways bothers me. However, what bothers me more is the
thought that there is a double standard on women or men saying the word
in question. I am very surprised to see all hateful words used so
freely by PEOPLE. I am not, however, bothered by these words being used
in a discussion tone or when a situation deems them appropriate (where a
person is deliberately trying to be mean and hateful).
-Lisa in AZ, who got in trouble as a child for saying "cursive" and
"screw"
Mary Bianco
>From: MO Milligans <Ozarkren@...>And how old are your kids? My 16 year old is like that and we're okay with
>Gosh, that's how I feel about it too :) How do you (the universal you) feel
>about your kids using it (or other such words for that matter)? For us, if
>they us the words *in context* and not as a slur, or insult, then we're
>okay with them saying them. Oddly enough, it *very* rare for them to use
>swear words anyway.
it, as long as it's not in front of the little ones. The little ones hear
some in movies and know it's not something they use. If they hear the word
shit from anyone, which is mostly daddy, they make him pay a dollar. Not
sure where this came from, maybe something on TV. I would feel uncomfortable
hearing my 6 year old use the word shit or anything else without saying it
was a word she heard or asked what it meant. But for the 6 and 7 year olds
to actually talk that way right now, would make me feel uneasy.
Mary B
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In a message dated 9/10/02 9:41:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
Ozarkren@... writes:
kids, but it was a hard habit to break. I finally decided that I wouldn't
make a big deal of it, now I rarely cuss, but it happens. <g> I think because
I don't make a fuss over it, my kids see it as no big deal and as such they
don't cuss too much either. Although the other day, Moly dropped a heavy book
on her foot, tripped over it, fell and hit her elbow on the side of the
coffee table. She said f*** very loudly and began to cry. Darin called out
from the computer room and asked if she was okay, and then said "Did she just
say what I though she said!" Jack said, "Yeah Dad, Moly said f***!" The
windows were open, and my little brother was just about to walk in the house.
I heard him on the porch laughing. <g>
~Nancy
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Ozarkren@... writes:
> >For me, it's just another word.I cuss. I used to make a concentrated effort to not do that in front of the
> ==
> Gosh, that's how I feel about it too :) How do you (the universal you) feel
> about your kids using it (or other such words for that matter)? For us, if
> they us the words *in context* and not as a slur, or insult, then we're
> okay with them saying them. Oddly enough, it *very* rare for them to use
> swear words anyway.
>
> Todd
kids, but it was a hard habit to break. I finally decided that I wouldn't
make a big deal of it, now I rarely cuss, but it happens. <g> I think because
I don't make a fuss over it, my kids see it as no big deal and as such they
don't cuss too much either. Although the other day, Moly dropped a heavy book
on her foot, tripped over it, fell and hit her elbow on the side of the
coffee table. She said f*** very loudly and began to cry. Darin called out
from the computer room and asked if she was okay, and then said "Did she just
say what I though she said!" Jack said, "Yeah Dad, Moly said f***!" The
windows were open, and my little brother was just about to walk in the house.
I heard him on the porch laughing. <g>
~Nancy
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MO Milligans
At 02:40 AM 9/11/02 -0400, you wrote:
That's very cute :) I think you're right, that making a big deal out of the
words make them more attractive. We don't have an issue with them, and that
seems to have led to rare occasions of hearing the kids use cuss words :)
Todd
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>Darin called out from the computer room and asked if she was okay, and==
>then said "Did she just say what I though she said!" Jack said, "Yeah Dad,
>Moly said f***!" The
>windows were open, and my little brother was just about to walk in the house.
>I heard him on the porch laughing. <g>
>~Nancy
That's very cute :) I think you're right, that making a big deal out of the
words make them more attractive. We don't have an issue with them, and that
seems to have led to rare occasions of hearing the kids use cuss words :)
Todd
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http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
MO Milligans
At 06:16 AM 9/11/02 +0000, you wrote:
Our kids are 6 & 9. They don't use cuss words very often, but when they do,
it's *always* in context, so it's no big deal to us :)
Todd
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>But for the 6 and 7 year olds to actually talk that way right now, would==
>make me feel uneasy.
>
>Mary B
Our kids are 6 & 9. They don't use cuss words very often, but when they do,
it's *always* in context, so it's no big deal to us :)
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
Bill and Diane
It hasn't bothered me at all on this list, where we've been discussing
word origins and meanings, but I did quit one list last year where I
thought I was in with a bunch of 9 year old boys playing pottymouth.
:-) Diane
word origins and meanings, but I did quit one list last year where I
thought I was in with a bunch of 9 year old boys playing pottymouth.
:-) Diane
>>On that note, is anyone else bothered my the freely used "f" word
>>on these postings? I am very surprised to see it used so freely by
>>women today. Or am I the only one it bothers?????>>
>>
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:15:19 -0700 "Lisa M. C. Bentley"
<cottrellbentley@...> writes:
Dar, who generally substututes "hockey puck" for f**k in mixed company
<cottrellbentley@...> writes:
> -Lisa in AZ, who got in trouble as a child for saying "cursive" andCursive? Why?
> "screw"
Dar, who generally substututes "hockey puck" for f**k in mixed company
zenmomma *
>>I cuss. I used to make a concentrated effort to not do that in front ofThis pretty much describes our situation too. Casey rarely cusses. Conor
>>the kids, but it was a hard habit to break. I finally decided that I
>>wouldn't make a big deal of it, now I rarely cuss, but it happens. <g> I
>>think because I don't make a fuss over it, my kids see it as no big deal
>>and as such they don't cuss too much either.>>
went through an experimental phase where he was very colorul in his
language. We talked a lot about appropriate times and places, and the need
to not offend people. It took a few uncomfortable months, but he got it.
Life is good.
~Mary
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In a message dated 9/10/02 2:18:00 PM, zenmomma@... writes:
<< So "You're an idiot!" would
bother me more than "What the f**k?" coming out of anyone's mouth. >>
Me too.
And in my life thusfar, those who objected to "fuck" spoken aloud in the air
were the very ones most likely to tell someone he was an idiot.
I would be more angry if one of my kids called someone a fucking idiot than
just an idiot, that's true. But they know words hurt and they're surprised
when they hang out with other people who just constantly berate or tease or
insult people.
Last week Kirby brought some older gaming-friends over, because the shop
closed and their game wasn't done. So of five people who came over, I knew
one and had met three, and there was one new guy altogether.
After a while they and my other two kids went outside to play boffers. It
became a team melee thing, in the vacant lot. Holly told me later that the
new guy (I'll call him "Rob," because that's his name) was not nice. She
said he had told her and Marty, "I'll get the fat guy and you get the ugly
one." or something like that.
I said "Holly, it would be okay if you told him that that wasn't nice."
She said, "I did! I said 'That's not nice.' and he said it was nicer than he
USUALLY was and I said it still was not nice."
I said he would probably remember that for the rest of his life, that a ten
year old girl was brave enough to tell him he wasn't being nice. And I said
I bet he was nicer after that. She said he was.
I mentioned later to Marty that Holly said he wasn't nice, and Marty said
"He's not. He never is." I told him Holly was brave enough to say so.
I mentioned it to Kirby and told him Holly had said that. Kirby said "good!"
and agreed that he's not a nice guy.
That story had nothing to do with the f word after all...
Sandra
<< So "You're an idiot!" would
bother me more than "What the f**k?" coming out of anyone's mouth. >>
Me too.
And in my life thusfar, those who objected to "fuck" spoken aloud in the air
were the very ones most likely to tell someone he was an idiot.
I would be more angry if one of my kids called someone a fucking idiot than
just an idiot, that's true. But they know words hurt and they're surprised
when they hang out with other people who just constantly berate or tease or
insult people.
Last week Kirby brought some older gaming-friends over, because the shop
closed and their game wasn't done. So of five people who came over, I knew
one and had met three, and there was one new guy altogether.
After a while they and my other two kids went outside to play boffers. It
became a team melee thing, in the vacant lot. Holly told me later that the
new guy (I'll call him "Rob," because that's his name) was not nice. She
said he had told her and Marty, "I'll get the fat guy and you get the ugly
one." or something like that.
I said "Holly, it would be okay if you told him that that wasn't nice."
She said, "I did! I said 'That's not nice.' and he said it was nicer than he
USUALLY was and I said it still was not nice."
I said he would probably remember that for the rest of his life, that a ten
year old girl was brave enough to tell him he wasn't being nice. And I said
I bet he was nicer after that. She said he was.
I mentioned later to Marty that Holly said he wasn't nice, and Marty said
"He's not. He never is." I told him Holly was brave enough to say so.
I mentioned it to Kirby and told him Holly had said that. Kirby said "good!"
and agreed that he's not a nice guy.
That story had nothing to do with the f word after all...
Sandra
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In a message dated 9/13/02 9:23:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Bowel movement is an action, not a turd. A turd is a poop.
I prefer clarity to sanitation, I guess. >>
My dh absolutely, positively HATES the term "BM"...it bugs the heck out of
him, but it makes him laugh too, like an absurdity or something.
He much prefers the word "poop".
I made "poopy shakes" once for my nephew and children. My sis had it in for
me after she got back home and her kids were begging for her to make more
"Poopy shakes" (chocolate of course) :)
Ren
[email protected] writes:
<< Bowel movement is an action, not a turd. A turd is a poop.
I prefer clarity to sanitation, I guess. >>
My dh absolutely, positively HATES the term "BM"...it bugs the heck out of
him, but it makes him laugh too, like an absurdity or something.
He much prefers the word "poop".
I made "poopy shakes" once for my nephew and children. My sis had it in for
me after she got back home and her kids were begging for her to make more
"Poopy shakes" (chocolate of course) :)
Ren
Lisa M. C. Bentley
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:15:19 -0700 "Lisa M. C. Bentley"Because it sounds too much like "cursing"? I wish I knew for sure, but
> <cottrellbentley@...> writes:
> > -Lisa in AZ, who got in trouble as a child for saying "cursive" and
> > "screw"
>
> Cursive? Why?
I wasn't allowed to know.
-Lisa in AZ
Valerie
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Lisa M. C. Bentley"
<cottrellbentley@c...> wrote:
said either word. "We" don't say darn, butt or even shoot!
And "sex" omg... that's something we don't talk about!
love, Valerie
<cottrellbentley@c...> wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:15:19 -0700 "Lisa M. C. Bentley"saying "cursive" and
> > <cottrellbentley@c...> writes:
> > > -Lisa in AZ, who got in trouble as a child for
> > > "screw"sure, but
> >
> > Cursive? Why?
>
> Because it sounds too much like "cursing"? I wish I knew for
> I wasn't allowed to know.Wow Lisa.. are we siblings? My parents would still have a fit if I
>
> -Lisa in AZ
said either word. "We" don't say darn, butt or even shoot!
And "sex" omg... that's something we don't talk about!
love, Valerie