Unschoolers and college
tarasine
I've been lurking for a while, but thought I might introduce myself
and ask a question sparked by a recent post. My name is Tarasine
(pronounced 'tara-seena'), and although my son is only 8 months old, I
have been thinking about and researching homeschooling/unschooling for
about 5 years now. Both my husband and I have really connected with
the idea of unschooling, since it is easy to see that it is the way WE
have been learning "what we need to know" our entire lives. I want my
children to have time/space/freedom to learn this way from the very
beginning, so I am extremely grateful to have come across so many
fabulous resources about unschooling as well as real-life unschoolers
before sending them to school was ever an issue.
So, here's my question. Recently, Sandra wrote:
<<And that maybe since everybody's looking I might be tempted to
compromise my beliefs and offer Kirby $1000 to enroll in college,
PLEASE!>>
I'm just curious to know how college fits into the unschooling
philosophy in general and in the actual lives of your children. I
mean, I realize that an unschooling parent wouldn't coerce/push/bribe
(as in Sandra's humorous example) a child to attend college, or even
assume that college is a given for their child. But do children who
have been unschooled feel a need or desire for college? Do those who
decide on college need to do some preparation to "get them ready" for
the schoolish way of doing things (e.g. exams, papers, lectures,
etc.)? What has been your experience?
Thanks!
Tarasine
and ask a question sparked by a recent post. My name is Tarasine
(pronounced 'tara-seena'), and although my son is only 8 months old, I
have been thinking about and researching homeschooling/unschooling for
about 5 years now. Both my husband and I have really connected with
the idea of unschooling, since it is easy to see that it is the way WE
have been learning "what we need to know" our entire lives. I want my
children to have time/space/freedom to learn this way from the very
beginning, so I am extremely grateful to have come across so many
fabulous resources about unschooling as well as real-life unschoolers
before sending them to school was ever an issue.
So, here's my question. Recently, Sandra wrote:
<<And that maybe since everybody's looking I might be tempted to
compromise my beliefs and offer Kirby $1000 to enroll in college,
PLEASE!>>
I'm just curious to know how college fits into the unschooling
philosophy in general and in the actual lives of your children. I
mean, I realize that an unschooling parent wouldn't coerce/push/bribe
(as in Sandra's humorous example) a child to attend college, or even
assume that college is a given for their child. But do children who
have been unschooled feel a need or desire for college? Do those who
decide on college need to do some preparation to "get them ready" for
the schoolish way of doing things (e.g. exams, papers, lectures,
etc.)? What has been your experience?
Thanks!
Tarasine
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/10/02 11:41:44 AM Central Daylight Time,
tarasine@... writes:
As for college, mine are a few years from that, but if they want to go, I
will do everything I can to help them. If not, fine. My goals for my kids are
that when they grow up they are happy, healthy, and in love with their lives.
But those are my goals for my kids today as well. There are colleges all
across the country and internationally, that are becoming more and more
acceptable to homeschoolers, some are even actively recruiting homeschoolers.
I think colleges are interested in the *alternatively educated* A friend of
mine over at KU says that the admissions office looks at all the same old
same old day after day. She thinks that an unschooler will have just the
same, if not better chance at securing a good college admission. And as for
what is required to get into a college, that differs from college to college,
but most require an SAT or ACT score and transcripts, if needed, are easily
made as is a high school diploma.
~Nancy
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tarasine@... writes:
> I'm just curious to know how college fits into the unschoolingYou have a beautiful name!
> philosophy in general and in the actual lives of your children. I
> mean, I realize that an unschooling parent wouldn't coerce/push/bribe
> (as in Sandra's humorous example) a child to attend college, or even
> assume that college is a given for their child. But do children who
> have been unschooled feel a need or desire for college? Do those who
> decide on college need to do some preparation to "get them ready" for
> the schoolish way of doing things (e.g. exams, papers, lectures,
> etc.)? What has been your experience?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tarasine
>
As for college, mine are a few years from that, but if they want to go, I
will do everything I can to help them. If not, fine. My goals for my kids are
that when they grow up they are happy, healthy, and in love with their lives.
But those are my goals for my kids today as well. There are colleges all
across the country and internationally, that are becoming more and more
acceptable to homeschoolers, some are even actively recruiting homeschoolers.
I think colleges are interested in the *alternatively educated* A friend of
mine over at KU says that the admissions office looks at all the same old
same old day after day. She thinks that an unschooler will have just the
same, if not better chance at securing a good college admission. And as for
what is required to get into a college, that differs from college to college,
but most require an SAT or ACT score and transcripts, if needed, are easily
made as is a high school diploma.
~Nancy
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Mary Bianco
>From: "tarasine" <tarasine@...>Welcome Tarasine. Nice name but I have reason to say so. My oldest
>I'm just curious to know how college fits into the unschooling
>philosophy in general and in the actual lives of your children. I
>mean, I realize that an unschooling parent wouldn't coerce/push/bribe
>(as in Sandra's humorous example) a child to attend college, or even
>assume that college is a given for their child. But do children who
>have been unschooled feel a need or desire for college? Do those who
>decide on college need to do some preparation to "get them ready" for
>the schoolish way of doing things (e.g. exams, papers, lectures,
>etc.)? What has been your experience?
daughter's name is Tara and one set of her very Italian grandparents called
her from a baby, Tarasine. You have to put in the Italian accent though. It
was term of endearment for her and it still sticks today. So welcome.
I'm not sure if I qualify to answer this but I can only go by what I've seen
and heard. My little ones know that college is an option and not a
prerequisite to life beyond the teen years. My oldest that attends school
knows the same thing. Sierra (6)has already decided that she wants to start
college at 16 and not wait until she's older. But then again she says she's
never moving from home either!!! All subject to change.
The homeschoolers I know of have gone to some kind of college whether it was
dual enrollment at 16, community college at 18 or a University. Haven't
really kept up with who finished or not and what they did with it. I know of
3 that haven't gone on to school. Two of those 3 have started their own
businesses. Some of those kids were unschoolers and when the time came to
take their SAT's, they took it upon themselves to learn what they needed.
They did well and were accepted into all schools that they applied to. Some
of the children I speak of had diploma's from on line school programs, some
had a GED and some had nothing. All I know of took the SAT. Now I also know
some college's dont' require an SAT at all. Who knows what the next 10 years
will show us with what colleges want or expect?
Mary B
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At 03:19 PM 9/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
This is how we feel about it too :)
Todd
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>As for college, mine are a few years from that, but if they want to go, I==
>will do everything I can to help them. If not, fine. My goals for my kids are
>that when they grow up they are happy, healthy, and in love with their lives.
This is how we feel about it too :)
Todd
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I have this link to a young lady's webpage that was unschooled her entire
life and chose college.
She ended up winning all sorts of awards, being on the deans list and such.
She's done with school for the time being, but you can contact her and read a
bit about her if you go to her page.
http://www.geocities.com/nikleba
So there is one example. Peter Kowalke recently wrote an article about a girl
that unschooled her college, I think? I'll look in my recent HEM issues to
see if I can find it for you.
My personal opinion is that unschoolers are going to be a LOT more creative
in regards to getting the knowledge and training they need for whatever they
do in this life.
If college becomes interesting/important to them, they'll do great at it.
I suppose many will become entrepreuners too.
It's going to be interesting to see what route my kids go...
Ren
life and chose college.
She ended up winning all sorts of awards, being on the deans list and such.
She's done with school for the time being, but you can contact her and read a
bit about her if you go to her page.
http://www.geocities.com/nikleba
So there is one example. Peter Kowalke recently wrote an article about a girl
that unschooled her college, I think? I'll look in my recent HEM issues to
see if I can find it for you.
My personal opinion is that unschoolers are going to be a LOT more creative
in regards to getting the knowledge and training they need for whatever they
do in this life.
If college becomes interesting/important to them, they'll do great at it.
I suppose many will become entrepreuners too.
It's going to be interesting to see what route my kids go...
Ren
Kelli Traaseth
Don't you all think this web site and also Pam S. post Digest Number 2357, regarding her experience with college and unschooling would be great material for those doubting in-laws, friends and such. I know Pam's post is going up on my fridge for my ps teaching inlaws to read.
Also thought I'd mention that my dh is coming around to our thinking, he is now sounding like me(to his dad). They were eating dinner last night and his father brought up the old socializing thing and dh asked him to think back to his own school days. I think it really hit a chord with him. People always jump on the socializing bit when they hear hs. But I think its because its the only thing they know of to ask. I love pointing out that all the kids are told that they aren't supposed to socialize in school. That my kids get to do more socializing! I was just so excited to hear my dh be excited about our unschooling!!!
OK, now this might be a stupid question but would anyone feel like informing me on some abbreviations? I've been reading posts for many months now and still don't know what the d stands for in dh, dd, ds, and don't know alot of other abbreviations. Thanks to anyone who has the time to explain these to me.
Kelli
starsuncloud@... wrote:I have this link to a young lady's webpage that was unschooled her entire
life and chose college.
She ended up winning all sorts of awards, being on the deans list and such.
She's done with school for the time being, but you can contact her and read a
bit about her if you go to her page.
http://www.geocities.com/nikleba
So there is one example. Peter Kowalke recently wrote an article about a girl
that unschooled her college, I think? I'll look in my recent HEM issues to
see if I can find it for you.
My personal opinion is that unschoolers are going to be a LOT more creative
in regards to getting the knowledge and training they need for whatever they
do in this life.
If college becomes interesting/important to them, they'll do great at it.
I suppose many will become entrepreuners too.
It's going to be interesting to see what route my kids go...
Ren
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Also thought I'd mention that my dh is coming around to our thinking, he is now sounding like me(to his dad). They were eating dinner last night and his father brought up the old socializing thing and dh asked him to think back to his own school days. I think it really hit a chord with him. People always jump on the socializing bit when they hear hs. But I think its because its the only thing they know of to ask. I love pointing out that all the kids are told that they aren't supposed to socialize in school. That my kids get to do more socializing! I was just so excited to hear my dh be excited about our unschooling!!!
OK, now this might be a stupid question but would anyone feel like informing me on some abbreviations? I've been reading posts for many months now and still don't know what the d stands for in dh, dd, ds, and don't know alot of other abbreviations. Thanks to anyone who has the time to explain these to me.
Kelli
starsuncloud@... wrote:I have this link to a young lady's webpage that was unschooled her entire
life and chose college.
She ended up winning all sorts of awards, being on the deans list and such.
She's done with school for the time being, but you can contact her and read a
bit about her if you go to her page.
http://www.geocities.com/nikleba
So there is one example. Peter Kowalke recently wrote an article about a girl
that unschooled her college, I think? I'll look in my recent HEM issues to
see if I can find it for you.
My personal opinion is that unschoolers are going to be a LOT more creative
in regards to getting the knowledge and training they need for whatever they
do in this life.
If college becomes interesting/important to them, they'll do great at it.
I suppose many will become entrepreuners too.
It's going to be interesting to see what route my kids go...
Ren
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Kelli: the "d" in dh, etc. usually stands for "dear", but can also stand for "dastardly" or "darn" (or whatever) depending on context and the writer's feelings. What other abbreviations did you want? Debi, who is happy her secret-email-decoder-ring finally came in the mail!
>>would anyone feel like informing me on some abbreviations? I've been reading posts for many months now and still don't know what the d stands for in dh, dd, ds, and don't know alot of other abbreviations. Thanks to anyone who has the time to explain these to me.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
tarasine
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., Dnowens@a... wrote:
<< You have a beautiful name! >>
Thank you! It's Italian--I was born while my father, then in the Air
Force, was stationed in Italy. Unfortunately, my parents returned to
the US when I was still an infant, so I don't remember any of it.
<sigh> Someday I'll get a chance to visit.
<<As for college, mine are a few years from that, but if they want to
go, I will do everything I can to help them. If not, fine. My goals
for my kids are that when they grow up they are happy, healthy, and in
love with their lives.>>
I agree! This is one of the reasons I have been so attracted to
unschooling--the idea that teaching my children to find their own
goals and criteria for success will lead to them becoming much
happier, healthier people than if *I* have certain goals in mind for
them. In fact, I'm sure that *I* will be much happier and healthier
with this kind of attitude, too. I have seen my mother go through a
lot of frustration and disappointment whenever one of her children
makes a choice that differs from her "plan." The thing is, all of us
are doing GREAT--it's just that we didn't necessarily do things
exactly as she wanted (as if any child ever would).
<<There are colleges all across the country and internationally, that
are becoming more and more acceptable to homeschoolers, some are even
actively recruiting homeschoolers.>>
Yes, I've heard this from many sources as well. I guess my question
was more about how unschoolers would do in the school setting of
college. I appreciate your response, though!
Tarasine
tarasine
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., starsuncloud@c... wrote:
<<I have this link to a young lady's webpage that was unschooled her
entire life and chose college. http://www.geocities.com/nikleba>>
Thank you, Ren! I will definitely take a look at that link.
<<Peter Kowalke recently wrote an article about a girl that unschooled
her college, I think? I'll look in my recent HEM issues to see if I
can find it for you.>>
I would appreciate that!
<<My personal opinion is that unschoolers are going to be a LOT more
creative in regards to getting the knowledge and training they need
for whatever they do in this life.>>
I think so, too. Although I only found out about unschooling a couple
of years ago, I realized that I have always understood it as a
principle. I have learned many more things outside of school than in it!
<<It's going to be interesting to see what route my kids go...>>
I, too, have felt such a sense of adventure in becoming a parent! It
has been so *exciting* to see my son explore, learn, and develop--I
can't imagine missing any of it by sending him to school!
Tarasine
tarasine
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., "Mary Bianco" <mummyone24@h...> wrote:
<<Welcome Tarasine. Nice name but I have reason to say so. My oldest
daughter's name is Tara and one set of her very Italian grandparents
called her from a baby, Tarasine. You have to put in the Italian
accent though. It was term of endearment for her and it still sticks
today. So welcome.>>
Thanks for the welcome, Mary! I'm glad to hear of another Tarasine,
even if it's only a nickname. I was born in Italy, so that's where my
parents got it.
<<Some of those kids were unschoolers and when the time came to take
their SAT's, they took it upon themselves to learn what they needed.>>
Yes, I'm sure this is possible. When I think about the college
entrance exams I took myself, it is easy to see how *little* of what
was tested I actually learned in school classes. When my husband was
studying for the GRE a while ago, we just had to shake our heads at
how much those standardized tests are really geared toward *tricking*
the test-taker. What they REALLY test is how well people can take
standardized tests.
<<Who knows what the next 10 years will show us with what colleges
want or expect?>>
Very true. Thanks!
Tarasine
Kelli Traaseth
Thanks Debi, I'll try and remember what the other ones are. Probably will take a while tho'.
Kelli
debi watson wrote:Kelli: the "d" in dh, etc. usually stands for "dear", but can also stand for "dastardly" or "darn" (or whatever) depending on context and the writer's feelings. What other abbreviations did you want? Debi, who is happy her secret-email-decoder-ring finally came in the mail!
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Kelli
debi watson wrote:Kelli: the "d" in dh, etc. usually stands for "dear", but can also stand for "dastardly" or "darn" (or whatever) depending on context and the writer's feelings. What other abbreviations did you want? Debi, who is happy her secret-email-decoder-ring finally came in the mail!
>>would anyone feel like informing me on some abbreviations? I've been reading posts for many months now and still don't know what the d stands for in dh, dd, ds, and don't know alot of other abbreviations. Thanks to anyone who has the time to explain these to me.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Valerie
> I'm just curious to know how college fits into the unschoolingcoerce/push/bribe
> philosophy in general and in the actual lives of your children. I
> mean, I realize that an unschooling parent wouldn't
> (as in Sandra's humorous example) a child to attend college, or evenfor
> assume that college is a given for their child. But do children who
> have been unschooled feel a need or desire for college? Do those who
> decide on college need to do some preparation to "get them ready"
> the schoolish way of doing things (e.g. exams, papers, lectures,Hello Tarasine
> etc.)? What has been your experience?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tarasine
I haven't posted here in ages (hello everyone) but I logged in just
now and saw the college topic and had to say something. My daughter
Laurie was unschooled from birth and at age 18 (out of the blue one
day) announced that she wanted to go to college. I was shocked to say
the least. She attended 3.5 years and graduated last December with a
3.98.. she made one B in her final semester. She loved/loves college
and has so far taken an additional semester of classes just for
grins. She plans on going another semester next year.
The only preparation was registering for and taking the ACT (college
entrance exam). She had never seen a textbook or taken a test and did
quite well on the tests. And we were total radical unschoolers. We
sat down at the table one time during her childhood because
she "wanted to learn math." That lasted five minutes and she said she
knew enough. <g>
Anyway, I've written a book about her life and it goes to the
printers in a month, so will hopefully be in the stores by Xmas.
Hopefully I'll drop in here more often.
love, Valerie
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in reading it!
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valfitz@... writes:
> Anyway, I've written a book about her life and it goes to thePlease keep us updated about the book (title, etc....) I'd be very interested
> printers in a month, so will hopefully be in the stores by Xmas.
> Hopefully I'll drop in here more often.
>
>
in reading it!
Amy
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MO Milligans
At 11:49 PM 9/11/02 +0000, you wrote:
Merry meet, Valerie :) Thanks for sharing that, and I look forward to your
book :)
Todd
Our HOME page
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>Anyway, I've written a book about her life and it goes to the==
>printers in a month, so will hopefully be in the stores by Xmas.
>Hopefully I'll drop in here more often.
>
>love, Valerie
Merry meet, Valerie :) Thanks for sharing that, and I look forward to your
book :)
Todd
Our HOME page
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Valerie
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., amycats2@a... wrote:
Valerie Fitzenreiter ... We're designing the cover right now. :-)
> In a message dated 9/11/2002 7:50:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,interested
> valfitz@y... writes:
>
>
> > Anyway, I've written a book about her life and it goes to the
> > printers in a month, so will hopefully be in the stores by Xmas.
> > Hopefully I'll drop in here more often.
> >
> >
>
> Please keep us updated about the book (title, etc....) I'd be very
> in reading it!Thanks Amy. It's "The Unprocessed Child: Living Without School" by
> Amy
> Amy Kagey
Valerie Fitzenreiter ... We're designing the cover right now. :-)
Valerie
> Merry meet, Valerie :) Thanks for sharing that, and I look forwardto your
> book :)Thanks Todd... I think I remember you from a looooong time ago in
>
> Todd
>
some unschooling group.. not sure though. :-)
love, Valerie
MO Milligans
At 01:45 AM 9/13/02 +0000, you wrote:
The only other homeschooling group I belonged to was PUL on yahoogroups,
and my own of course<g>. Was PUL the one? :)
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
>I think I remember you from a looooong time ago in==
>some unschooling group.. not sure though. :-)
>
>love, Valerie
The only other homeschooling group I belonged to was PUL on yahoogroups,
and my own of course<g>. Was PUL the one? :)
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
MO Milligans
At 11:26 PM 9/12/02 -0500, you wrote:
LOL. What I *meant* to say was the only other *unschooling* specific group
I belonged to....
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
>The only other homeschooling group I belonged to was PUL on yahoogroups,==
>and my own of course<g>. Was PUL the one? :)
>
>Todd
LOL. What I *meant* to say was the only other *unschooling* specific group
I belonged to....
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
Valerie
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., MO Milligans <Ozarkren@r...> wrote:
having one young son. Nice meeting you. :-)
love, Valerie
> At 01:45 AM 9/13/02 +0000, you wrote:yahoogroups,
>
> >I think I remember you from a looooong time ago in
> >some unschooling group.. not sure though. :-)
> >
> >love, Valerie
> ==
> The only other homeschooling group I belonged to was PUL on
> and my own of course<g>. Was PUL the one? :)No, maybe RUL? Ok, it wasn't you. I seem to remember the other Todd
>
> Todd
>
> Our HOME page
> http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
having one young son. Nice meeting you. :-)
love, Valerie
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/11/02 10:47:25 AM, tarasine@... writes:
<< <<Peter Kowalke recently wrote an article about a girl that unschooled
her college, I think? I'll look in my recent HEM issues to see if I
can find it for you.>> >>
I think it's his new wife, who is "unschooling college," and he was
confessing to thinking she ought to have a formal plan, and realized what he
was doing.
You can read her stuff at http://maeshell.com/unschooling_what.shtml
http://maeshell.com
<< <<Peter Kowalke recently wrote an article about a girl that unschooled
her college, I think? I'll look in my recent HEM issues to see if I
can find it for you.>> >>
I think it's his new wife, who is "unschooling college," and he was
confessing to thinking she ought to have a formal plan, and realized what he
was doing.
You can read her stuff at http://maeshell.com/unschooling_what.shtml
http://maeshell.com
MO Milligans
At 03:05 PM 9/13/02 +0000, you wrote:
Okay, so I'm Todd, married to "the other Ren". <g> Or am I the other Todd
married to the other Ren? Hmmm....I'm so confused! LOL
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
>I seem to remember the other Todd==
>having one young son. Nice meeting you. :-)
>
>love, Valerie
Okay, so I'm Todd, married to "the other Ren". <g> Or am I the other Todd
married to the other Ren? Hmmm....I'm so confused! LOL
Todd
Our HOME page
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
Valerie
--- In Unschooling-dotcom@y..., MO Milligans <Ozarkren@r...> wrote:
which Ren is which, so I'm not going to worry about the Todd's
either... but.. I DO think it's important that YOU can tell the Ren's
apart. :-)
love, Valerie
> At 03:05 PM 9/13/02 +0000, you wrote:other Todd
>
> >I seem to remember the other Todd
> >having one young son. Nice meeting you. :-)
> >
> >love, Valerie
> ==
> Okay, so I'm Todd, married to "the other Ren". <g> Or am I the
> married to the other Ren? Hmmm....I'm so confused! LOLWell, so far I haven't had the concentration powers to figure out
>
> Todd
>
> Our HOME page
> http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
which Ren is which, so I'm not going to worry about the Todd's
either... but.. I DO think it's important that YOU can tell the Ren's
apart. :-)
love, Valerie
MO Milligans
At 02:36 PM 9/14/02 +0000, you wrote:
I'm pretty sure I can :) And you're right, that's the most important thing. <g>
Todd
--
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
I will choose Free will" -Rush (and Todd)
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
--
>I DO think it's important that YOU can tell the Ren's==
>apart. :-)
>
>love, Valerie
I'm pretty sure I can :) And you're right, that's the most important thing. <g>
Todd
--
"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
I will choose Free will" -Rush (and Todd)
http://rambleman.tripod.com/index.html
--