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In a message dated 9/9/02 1:11:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get my 3 and 4 year olds on an
airplane? I'm not sure why they are afraid except that they think it will
be
really loud. My son, in particular, is very sensitive to loud noises - he
even begs people in public bathrooms not to use the hand dryer. We've
talked
about the noise level on the plane, etc. >>

Visiting the airport a few times is a great idea.
In addition...I would buy some "rescue remedy" to give them both before and
during the flight (it is very calming). But some earplugs so they have the
option to block any noise that bothers them. Show them how they work and play
with them ahead of time maybe.
Read books about people flying, maybe rent movies that are lighthearted and
funny where people are flying.
Bring good snacks and toys to keep their attention on something happy during
the flight......
I think that should help. Good luck!

Ren

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> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get my 3 and 4 year
> olds on an
> airplane?

Could they watch JJ the Jet Plane? Not the same kind of planes at all
but you could talk some about flying and those little planes look
friendly. I haven't looked at that particular show in a long time, maybe
I'm wrong.

If you're in your car could you rev up the noise slightly, just like
"Zoom, zoom now we're taking off" ? Could you pretend you're flying to
the grocery store?

We once made our dining room table into an airplane and flew to Japan.
The situation was different because it involved my son wanting to climb
onto and then jump off of everything. We jumped out the airplane when we
reached our destination.

Maybe just lots of play about flying around and add a little noise
yourself and encourage them to add some zooms and roars. Should be fun
at your house for a while!

We had a cool little swing that looked like an airplane, don't know if
they still make those.

Deb L

Karin

>
> > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get my 3 and 4 year
> > olds on an
> > airplane?
>
> Could they watch JJ the Jet Plane? Not the same kind of planes at all
> but you could talk some about flying and those little planes look
> friendly. I haven't looked at that particular show in a long time, maybe
> I'm wrong.
>


When my boys were about that age, they loved watching "There Goes the
Airplane" along with all the other "There Goes the ..." movies. I've seen
them at the library recently.

Karin

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In a message dated 9/9/2002 11:30:21 AM Central Standard Time,
ddzimlew@... writes:


> We once made our dining room table into an airplane and flew to Japan.
> The situation was different because it involved my son wanting to climb
> onto and then jump off of everything. We jumped out the airplane when we
> reached our destination

You sound like you have a really fun house! Jay Jay comes on during nap, but
maybe I'll tape it. They aren't napping today, by the way, because the
street is being torn up. Bulldozers and dump trucks right outside our
bedroom window! What joy!

Elizabeth


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In a message dated 9/9/02 3:28:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Thanks! I've
never given my two chewing gum before, is it safe for a 3 and 4 year old? >>

That depends on what you mean by safe. If you think it's not safe to swallow
it, then no.
But I've swallowed a LOT of gum in my life (no, I don't do it anymore) and
I'm still here and as healthy as can be.
I've given a small piece of gum to my 19 month old, wouldn't do it regularly,
but I can't see any harm in giving it to a 3 and 4 y.o.
I'm baffled as to how you've kept it from them so far!! :) My kids love gum.

Ren

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In a message dated 9/9/2002 3:57:05 PM Central Standard Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:


> I'm baffled as to how you've kept it from them so far!! :) My kids love
> gum.
>
>

We have a LOT of allergies and chemical sensitivities. Along with asthma.
Peanuts, highly processed corn products (like corn starch and sugar), DEET,
sunscreens, most bath soaps and diaper creams, laundry detergents, not to
mention regular old cleaning supplies. I haven't read a package of gum
lately, but it's sure to read like a chemical reaction.

I chew gum, as does my husband. The kids aren't interested. We also drink
the occasional diet coke, but again they are not interested. I figure, why
mess with a good thing? I might try a piece of gum before


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If you decide to get some gum for them to try and the regular gums look like
it may trigger allergies, check with your local health food store.
There is a gum based on an African (I think it's from Africa) tree called
Peelu.
Peelu gum....good for your teeth, it actually cleans them, and fun to chew.
Probably all natural ingredients.

Ren

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In a message dated 9/9/2002 11:25:03 PM Central Standard Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:


> If you decide to get some gum for them to try and the regular gums look like
>
> it may trigger allergies, check with your local health food store.

Thanks, Ren! I'll check out our Trader Joe's or Wild Oats next time.

Elizabeth


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Alan & Brenda Leonard

> some cool ear plugs.

Do they make such things? I'd like some for flying, myself. Can't sleep on
airplanes, they're too darn loud. But I've seen 2 kinds of ear plugs: nifty
wax ones that are uncomfortable, and really ugly yellow foam ones that are
uncomfortable.

I know this has nothing whatsoever to do with unschooling, but hey, somebody
enlighten me anyhow. Or, maybe I'd be a better unschooling Mom the day
after a transatlantic flight if I had some sleep.....does that count? ;)

brenda

Julie Stauffer

The small private airport is a great suggestion. Most of the people who
work at those are nuts about aviation and are always looking to make a
dollar.

I would think that if you called out there, explained the situation and
offered to pay $15 or $20, you could probably get a private tour inside a
small plane and possibly even a brief ride.

My 9yo is very sensitive to noise (can't stand fireworks or anything like
that) but when he was about 3 he got to fly with his Papa in a small plane
and loved it.

Julie

zenmomma *

> > some cool ear plugs.
>
>>Do they make such things? >>

I think I've een some colorful ones with the swimming stuff in the stores. I
do know for sure that I've seen some that look weird, but are specifically
designed to help with ear popping. I haven't tried them though.

>>.....does that count? ;)>>

It all counts.

Life is good.
~Mary


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Judy

I'm far behind you guys at the moment- Sept 11th having taken much
energy in this neck of the woods..
so if this has been answered just delete me..
Yes- there are cool ear plugs. One of my kids gave me some for using the
lawn mower, etc. And my Dad is a Police Officer and has them for
'qualifying with his weapon'.
Mine are bright orange and connected to each other on a cord/line- all
very soft, pliable plastic.
I'll try to remember to ask Lucas, my son, where he gets them.
Love, Judy

Alan & Brenda Leonard wrote:

>
> > some cool ear plugs.
>
> Do they make such things? I'd like some for flying, myself. Can't
> sleep on
> airplanes, they're too darn loud. But I've seen 2 kinds of ear plugs:
> nifty
> wax ones that are uncomfortable, and really ugly yellow foam ones that
> are
> uncomfortable.
>
> I know this has nothing whatsoever to do with unschooling, but hey,
> somebody
> enlighten me anyhow. Or, maybe I'd be a better unschooling Mom the
> day
> after a transatlantic flight if I had some sleep.....does that count?
> ;)
>
> brenda
>
>
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